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rudejohn
Are there many countries that don't deport illegals who sneak across their borders and have no paperwork? I'm not talking about refugees.
CaptainLitClicker
Love Jordan Kleppers show, the Jon Steward school has produced so many gems.
dekket
Source?
CrusherOfCities
Context: US revokes citizenship and deports immigrants convicted of felonies, including immigrant vets who served in the military to get it.
boukalele
can attest, i lived in Kenner just outside Nawlins. but there are a lot of nerds there was well with no accent at all
LurkingHusky
Considering the benefits in the military its like they want their entire population to join if they meet the standards
vudumommajuju
Comme ca!
NobodyExpectsTheSpanishInquistion
Help us to murder innocent people in the Middle East and maybe we won't kidnap and deport you from your home.
ratboy181
PutThePRNDLinD
Patois...with hints of good-old-boy...
JasonThorn
...never meanin' no harm.
bumcivillian
Drinking whisky and rye?
heller8790
Of course.
blastedsteak
I met lots of GOBs in millington TN. Read bibles. Chopped wood. Shot guns. Had farms. Kind to everyone. Generous as could be.
SacrificialClam
Starship Troopers had it sorta right. Citizenship earned from serving in the military.
RogerTwoThree
But i bet that hed never actually vote for anybody that actually gave a shit about vets being deported.
deathandtaxes1
So to extrapolate in extreme, anyone who doesn’t want to be a republican is subhuman scum who doesn’t deserve the same rights as republicans
SamanosukeOnimusha
Sir I need to see your passport if you are going to jump that far to conclusions
extrudermaint365
Tuphon
Is this /s or are you trying to summarize what there guy is saying?
Compound515
No no no, what he is saying is that we need to break into his house to put on his boots. THAT is the pathway to citizenship
Zadwanaa
Reading can be hard, bud. I believe in you!
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
You must have run this through google translate between English and Swahili and back about 3 dozen times to misunderstand this badly.
TheNatanist
Where did you get that?
LoudAngryJerk
Dementia.
tigerspacecreator
What formula are you using to extrapolate this information? Maybe take out the divisive edgelord function.
MelodyLightfoot
He's pulling info from the middle third of his colon.
Dinos91
He's talking about fellow service members, he has a veteran hat on. Path to citizenship if you serve in the military is what he's talkin abt
LoudAngryJerk
Specifically he's talking about how american combat veterans have been getting deported, because they used to be immigrants, and signed up>
LoudAngryJerk
>for the military on the grounds that it fast-track's citizenship.
vietnow12
Anyone have the source
faxton
Here ya go https://youtu.be/NePzmEvnpos
RogerWillco
https://youtu.be/NePzmEvnpos
DangerousNoodle
11:50 is where the screenshot starts!
drpants
I think it’s from the Daily Show
BeefyByDesign
It's Kleppers own show now
SirBagels
Binged them all yesterday. Remarkably well put together.
SwayzeS
I do believe that anyone, who puts his/her life on the line for this country, should NEVER be deported. That earns them a seat at the table!
PickleDemon5
Why is military service so fetishized in America? What about hardworking plumbers or builders, don't they deserve a seat at the table?
chapterhawk101
This.
Thatradarguy
To be fair
DoctorOctagonapusBwaah
Extrasauceplease
To be faaair
AlltheSarcasm87
Toby fur? Sounds gay, bring lube...
dekket
To be faaaaaaaaaaaaair
UggItsThatKid24
Toooo beee faaaaaaiiiirrr
OptimisticSchrodinger
To be FAAAAAIIIIIRRRRRRR
cassidy680
To be faaaairrr
QuidditchQueen713
sjyort
As someone from south Louisiana, y'all talk funny.
vudumommajuju
How south we talking? Houma? Grand Isle? Chackbay?
SolaceHaestas
Cut Off? Empire?
vudumommajuju
Ayyye cut off reppin haha
tittytittybangbangs
Service for citizenship. Not a fascist nightmare at all. Did we learn nothing from starship troopers??
Zokalwe
Just like 1984: taken as a manual rather than a warning.
cjandstuff
Or service to pay for college. Risk your life for 4 yrs and if you're lucky you get what civilized nations get without risking their lives.
spinsymmetry
If you think that's bad wait until you hear about the French Foreign Legion or the Gurkha Army or the Canadian Forces citizenship path or
Deadpoolio7
I learnt Dizzy is hot af
OrC23
I much prefer the movie Dizzy (Dina Meyer is an eternal crush) to book Dizzy (a dude) but still love the book more than the movie.
PangolinBan
As opposed to, not to put too fine a point on it, money for citizenship? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind paying taxes in order to 1/2
PangolinBan
2/2 benefit from the many advantages being part of society offers, but that’s what it comes down to.
SuicideSlide
It’s been that way for a very long time all around the world...I’m not sure why you are so shocked.
SuicideSlide
Unless it was satire and i just brain farted ?
Treblaine
You're right, that commented missed that in that world you weren't automatically a citizen by being born in the country.
OrC23
Heinlein was very pro service for citizenship. In Heinlein's universe however, military was not the only service.
semioticmadness
And the founding fathers believed in land ownership for citizenship. Heinlein is arguably more palatable than the lot of them.
omgwtfbbqXD
You're allowed to say "both of those ideas are bad".
whitebbwolf
Treblaine
You missed the point in Starship Troopers which was that the ONLY way to become a "citizen" was through military service or being rich.
OrC23
That's not true. Maybe for the movie but not the book. Military service was one option.
Treblaine
The MOVIE was the "fascist nightmare" which must be what they were referring to. The book presented human society as ideal.
Treblaine
Way more have seen the movie than read the book and the book is NOTHING like the movie. The movie criticises the book's ideology.
OrC23
And? The book is the source material. The ideas come from Heinlein. Yes, i know the movie is a satire of the book.
Treblaine
The ideas are fundamentally changed as part of the satirical take.
owensdad102542
Hs talking about veterans being deported.
Narwhilian
https://youtu.be/NePzmEvnpos here is the full episode on deported vets. They put all of Klepper (this show) on youtube a week or two ago
NothingPrince
So many things wrong with this. Fight and die for us now go away.
SaintCody
Wtf
IveGotRedOnMe
Served in USAF with immigrants from Africa and Central America. I can say 100% I way preferred them over everyone else I worked with.
Elsuave
Veterans being deported!?!?!?! Wtf????
pandastrafe
Naturalized citizens can have their citizenship revoked if they commit a felony.
Elsuave
Man USA is harsh. Thanks for the answer.
milchuck1000
It happens: https://www.npr.org/local/309/2019/06/21/733371297/deported-u-s-veterans-feel-abandoned-by-the-country-they-defended
Elsuave
I feel sorry for what USA was, and what is becoming.
digiorno88
Trump wants to deport the "illegals", it doesn't matter what they've done for the country
Elsuave
Go vote, I guess
Elsuave
Is there anything else in his vile mind?
Elsuave
But how can you be illegal in the army?
digiorno88
They don't check citizenship that hard. Illegals can get fake drivers licenses and use that as a way in. Or the military will just not check
digiorno88
Citizenship status. It isn't right but st the end of the day all they care about is getting bodies in the door
Elsuave
They will take anything I guess. But serving should give you citizenship, it's fair
ekzeko
How can you enlist without being a citizen? Dafuq
Longbowgun
It's a job...
revivelocalmultiplayer
They tell you you'll get citizenship if you serve, but if you're not watching, they'll cross their fingers behind their backs.
Alpha5772
I served with many non citizens. The army predates the country so... all the founders where non citizens
BurnThatBridgeAsWeCrossIt
2nd generation American here, my grandparents on both sides got expedited citizenship for their families and themselves for joining...
ihateyouallandyouhatemetoo
served in the navy with a couple guys who didnt have their citizenship, they got their citizenship while in the military. so guys who are(1)
ihateyouallandyouhatemetoo
getting deported after they served in the american military, honestly disgusts me, and its wrong. its like those interpreters we left(2)
ihateyouallandyouhatemetoo
hanging in the middle east after promising them citizenship for them and their family if they helped us, and we left them all hanging.
Kamishiro
Served with a Cuban in the USAF. He became a citizen after making sergeant.
Treblaine
It's incredibly common around the world, armies have always gladly taken foreign nationals but THEN denying them citizenship is the problem.
kystos
A lot of countries do that. Like the French Foreign Legion... After your service you become "French by spilled blood".
ekzeko
Actually you become french by service, if you just finish your engagement. French by spilled blood is only if you are wounded. And automatic
pyth151
Service guarantees citizenship! Would you like to know more?
khora
Turns out it didn’t.
Ajakebake
MadeYouLookAgain
I believe it's a pathway to citizenship but apparently not.
makesense
It was supposed to be, but certain people put 'hidden' restrictions on it (like committing a minor felony).
Yenkosky
It is, but any naturalized citizen who is convicted of a felony can have it revoked. They just happen to be vets as well.
Iblamemyparents
Not with trump
MadeYouLookAgain
That's fucked up
Iblamemyparents
It sure the fuck is, he's even deporting their families
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Many nations have a foreign recruit arm. Hell the French Foreign Legion was I believe the most decorated branch it had for awhile.
lDanielHolm
Yeah... Plus there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion_in_popular_culture
skwint
Sure, but that's because it's the only branch they had that wasn't French!
ekzeko
Well yeah, but that's because we sent them in before anyone else all the time. If 1 player plays 60% more games, he'll have more goals.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Ahh so just like immigrants in 'Murica. You guys send them in to do the hardest most dangerous jobs no one else wants.
ekzeko
Well... yeah. But the Foreign legion was... I mean... Historically... How do I put this... So they also send frenchmen there. Those who-
AGorgonMadeMyPenisHard
The military has a program to earn citizenship through service, a lot of immigrants take it because otherwise they would never get the 1/2
tyrfin
Yep, there was a Ukrainian dude and a Russian dude in my platoon. They hit their requirement while we were overseas
tyrfin
They had to lay on transpo to drag them up to Bagram to do their citizenship stuff
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
I too enjoyed Starship Troopers. It was a fantastic parody of a dystopian future. Not sure why some people didn't understand it was satire.
DarthTruman
Same with Robocop
Monkeyspearfish
The film might have been, but the book wasn't; it was a serious study on the benefits of citizenship and the glorification of the military.
terminexTM
Everything by River Heinlein is a focus on communism and how it is good. Also polygamy and pansexualism.
Susurus
The movie is a great film, but the book delves so deep into the subject it's like the book was a critique of the film rather than vice versa
AGorgonMadeMyPenisHard
Opportunity to become a us citizen based on our crazy, fucked up immigration laws. 2/2
RealRaceRiotsAreAboutGettingBlueshelledInMarioKart
See: Guam
kamesha
People born in Guam are US citizens - you don't have to do service duty
brownribbon
It’s a good program. The French have done it for decades.
IssacCox
You think it's hard to immigrate to the U.S.? Look at canada's immigration laws. Actually look at most western immigration law.
sexytangerine
It's interesting because the Army wouldnt take me cuz I didnt have any papers. So idk if I didnt go to the right recruiter or what...
dohcohv
It's still easier to immigrate to the US than a lot of other countries, even Canada.
ekzeko
I mean, I am personally for rather tight immigration laws. But that's a very reasonable way to channel an applicant. Why do they get deprtd?
xBoneDaddy
I share this exact sentiment and question.
AGorgonMadeMyPenisHard
This is just personal experience from the guys around me, but last few years the process has been getting a lot harder.
RealRaceRiotsAreAboutGettingBlueshelledInMarioKart
Buddy of mine was discharged with a purple heart agree getting blown up in an ied. Oops, didn't serve your full tour, fuck off...
Outlavv
Because america as a nation is immoral and corrupt and has no honor or loyalty to anything but the dollar bill
TurtleVest
Can confirm, In my unit we had a guy from Puerto Rico, Pakistan, and the Phillipines.
ekzeko
You're saying people from puerto rico aren't citizen's either? Jeesh
AnonOmis1000
Puerto Rico is a US territory, unless reality suddenly shifted on me.
FullMetalloidAlchemist
Expedited citizenship process if you're in the service. If have 2 soldiers in my unit that just earned their citizenship this way.
WeCanDoBetter9
I thank you all for your service.
cepacolusmaximus
Then how are veterans getting deported?
somnif
For example, getting a medical discharge (such that you don't finish your full term length) suddenly ends that process.
freshthrowaway1138
Because the system was designed to be difficult.
RawSuger
the same boots = military? to what extent does US aspire to emulate the roman empire?
FourLegsGood
Right down to the collapsing economy.
cm77
It's really looking like 475AD at the moment.
thestudyofwambology
All the way. Our leaders like to sleep with underage boys too.
JacksNaggingProcrastination
We only have a case for the current one... not the others as far as I am aware
realusernotabot
Yes
Tobecontinued1992
Didnt the romans wear sandals?
fdoyl001
The roman empire did not offer citizenship for service. In fact, you originally had to be a landowner, so fairly well off.
stankginchfurbuger
That was republic days. By later empire, it could be done but you had to enter service with your whole unit AND impress enough to be gain
LizardEnterprises
Well, our president has immunity for his crimes while in office, literally the same as Consuls having Imperium. So... quite a bit?
RedneckFrank
Yeah it's about military service.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
The chubbies the Founders sported for the Romans would have coincidentally made them quite popular in Ancient Rome
spinsymmetry
Its really common to offer citizenship in exchange for service. FFL is the most famous but UK, Australia, Canada, and more also do it.
secretdpp
You also need to be about 8tons of insane in a 1lb sack for the FFL.
Bananasareagovconspiracy
We’re working pretty hard on the fall part.
HappyEngineer
lemmerustlethosejimmies
I don't see why this can't be ONE path to citizenship. Like if you're willing to fight for a country, you should be able to become a citizen
Notme68
You're >supposedu to be fast tracked to naturalization.
RawSuger
the issue for the roman empire was they ended up using mostly foreigners for their armies. turns out thats a kinda risky move
LoudAngryJerk
IIRC this is from an episode about how America deports combat vets because they were immigrants when they signed up for the military.
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
you already have the lead, the dictator, the war-obsessed imperialist mentality... the "slaves"
MrTay
About 100% our government was structured from it. Our union of states model our citizen model. They’ve expanded but it’s the inspiration.
nonCanadianGoose
It’s also a blue collar work term.
nopost
Military service as a path to citizenship has existed for a while (in theory). And the US has always fancied itself the New Roman Empire
themusicguy12
All Trump has to do is learn the violin and we’re golden.
HumanBlooper
"service guarantees citizenship" - would you like to know more?
ThePunisherJB3
That's just Europe really. Almost every kingdom fancied themselves new Rome.
konelhft
And then there's the Holy Roman Empire which wasn't Holy, wasn't Roman, and wasn't an Empire.
AgentPothead
SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
Rovylern
Treblaine
I think you will find the problem is that it doesn't guarantee citizenship.
Treblaine
The subtext everyone missed in Starship Troopers is military service was one of only a few ways to become a "citizen".
AgentPothead
Sorry it's a Starship Troopers reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTz9nIUkGc
Treblaine
People misunderstand that movie so much, the problem isn't veterans granted citizenship it's about ONLY veterans being citizens.
AgentPothead
What are you on about? Literally nobody said that, but you. Have you even read the book the movie is based on?
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
It depends what n the year. For an example, Roman movements were quite popular in the southwest in the 2270s and 2280s
XVUltima
Popular until the mailman rolled into camp with a Big Iron on his hip.
Dimestream
Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
Dionysus187
Oh man wait until the year 40,000, really Roman it up then.
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Dionysus187
Thesweatywaiter
Ave. True to Caesar.
RobertDinero013
Hail Caesar! Actually fuck Caesar, the legion were dicks.
XVUltima
I respected Ceasar's ideals. He knew the world was trying to rebuild the same way that led to the apocalypse. He wanted to purge any of the
XVUltima
old ideas, especially the NCR that was modeled directly on the old U.S. His faction was the LEGION, not the EMPIRE.
RobertDinero013
They. Locked. A. Little. Girl. In. The. Pen. With. The. Brahmin. Because. She. Had. A. Teddy. Bear.
Alfadorfox
Misterdruglicious
is it the Boys
Misterdruglicious
or fallout new vegas thats the ome
Misterdruglicious
I cheated I looked at the dudes new vegas pic I didnt know
monocline
Oh please...The Bull was about as Roman as Rome was Greek.
Misterdruglicious
also the romans werent only roman but also like all the tribes they conquered/allied with basically Europe
misanthropicbob
Yeah, hopefully support will change. But War, War Never Changes.
onlymostofthetime
read that in Perlman's voice. obviously
newworldtraveller
CallMeOldFashionedBut
thedudeman519
Call me old fashioned, but I think the Sun is magic. And it scares me .
OmnipotentBeing
thedudeman519
I dont remember NV looking like that
borednerd55
So many mods
thedudeman519
I thought it was a Fallout 4 mod. I have NV and a 2070. Might be time