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Jul 15, 2017 12:25 PM
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userfriendly19777
Don't forget, the senators also have responsibilities to their donors and lobbyists
boobcat
Unless USA gets single payer HC, the country will go broke or the Health Industry will collapse
JackaLackaDingDong
At least trump is doing something for the environment
Nemock
They need to stop starting these with "to the honorable"
buffaloricknice
I find it hard to believe that such an official letter would have so many grammatical errors
tonyfcox
Yeah, trust the guys that stand to gain/lose the most money from a change.
JeffreyDeTar
The people who crafted TrumpCare don't understand insurance, refuse to understand it, and would rather cater to their base.
MilesPrower
"People should be forced to buy our product by law" WOW! Such compassion!
newold
I distrust altruistic motives here...this must mean Blue Cross is going to lose money if this goes through.
awesock
Yeah it's in their best interest to have more people covered. It just so happens that that is in society's best interest as well
AlwaysAlready
They also lose money if prices go so high that fewer people are buying. Or if people are dead instead of insured.
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muttonchoppa
Jesus Christ! How do you afford to live?
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HighFunctioningAlcoholic
Your father dying is a life event - should be able to change regardless.
boobcat
How has USA got to this? That most economically stable and successful countries all have a similar system. But USA thinks its bound to fail?
ignorantbastrd
Do we really have to call them "honorable"?
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
While I agree with all of this and def think we should pursue affordable insurance, I also think we need to put an equal amount of effort (1
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
In making sure healthcare.is affordable in the first place. I'm talking about how an ankle brace from your fam. Dr. Costing 85$ while (2
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
One from the Internet is $25, same make and model.
ssyoda2
Huh. Interesting
RhinosRfatUnicorns
Many insurers care about $ and don't give a crap about members. Been w/ BCBS for 10 years. They actually do care about members more than $
listoCookieSmuggler
Yes... millions who didn't want it in the first place
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
"But the rich people can still afford their premiums? Who cares if the poors die?" McConnell's likely response
labard01
This is exactly how he thinks
eightcastles
+1 for "the poors"
bobbylan1955
And Congress remains outside to program, so they have no stake. They will get re elected no matter what they do. Sadly
TheConformityInCommentorsHereIsAstronomical
"Anybody criticizing me is just jealous and would have done the same in my position. I'm just smart." that turkey bastard, probably
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Yeah but no, anyone with any sense of empathy would make a better choice than him.
UnpopularOpinionsGuy
It's okay for big companies to lobby against legislation when they agree with you, but not when they don't?
MagnorCriol
It's not okay that it's a thing, but as long as they're agreeing with us, we can enjoy it. 'Politics makes for strange bedfellows', etc.
awesock
This isn't a form of lobbying that people are against. Buying off politicians is different than an open letter
DuckyofDeath123
You're not wrong, but I do think there's a difference between a company lobbying to fuck over the taxpayer vs lobbying to insure them.
maxxra
Ya'll are forgetting that those two assholes with signatures at the bottom are the reason we are in this mess. Mitch is a retard, too.
voiceafx
Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?!
ChomskyWouldnt
Who knew so many congress critters would be unable to grasp basic economics?
ChomskyWouldnt
or even worse, they legitimately don't give a shit if the healthcare system fails as long as they get tax cuts passed for the wealthy
Trunko
Bingo.
HaveGinWillBabble
This
Abysse
So correct me if I'm wrong but since they're calling for a single "health pool," they're effectively saying that healthy people should pay
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for the healthcare of the sick, by subsidizing their otherwise higher premiums.
Bigenbus
Seems like McConnell realllly doesn't understand how risk pools work.
Awmph
they don't give a shit more likely
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
It's different for man-turtles, you just don't understand.
DefinitelyNotTippster
Uhhhh....Yup....
confanity
He does but he's perfectly willing to let Americans die if it makes rich people richer. That's the GOP's entire reason for being these days.
imaginaryupvote
Texan here, you can blame Ted Cruz for this fuck up.
GiantRobotsRule
Or thank Ted Cruz for making the Republicans' latest iteration of TrumpCare toxic enough to lose enough Republican votes that it can't pass.
mritty
Wait. So the consumers don't want this. The doctors don't want it. The insurers don't want it. Who DOES? Who is the GOP listening to?
WhatzitTooya
The 1%?
Cassodeus
Cha-ching?
WiqidBritt
The people they're using the bill to give tax cuts to. That's all this ever was.
GiantRobotsRule
i.e. people with incomes >$250k. Obamacare raised taxes on income >$250k to fund Medicaid expansion & premium assistance for working people
eion85
Gee, it's almost like health insurance companies know how health insurance works.
darkhazard
They are making record profits right now, bigger pool of people = more $$&. They arent doing it to help their customers
Sc00ba5teeve
This, in no way, invalidates their argument. Splitting your risk pool is inherently unworkable.
MagnorCriol
"Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated"
Foag
"Why'd you have to go and have to make things so complicated" - Avril Lavinge
Thatoneguyfromthedistance
Or want more money... I mean they are a business... wouldn't they not want a system that pays less?
eion85
A business always wants more money. Government's job is to make that profit motive also serve the public good. I'm for medicare/aid for all.
Thatoneguyfromthedistance
I don't think the government has any right to be in medical care... just another bureaucracy where you have to pay others to deny what you
Thatoneguyfromthedistance
Have paid for.
eion85
You just described health insurance too. If medicare is Constitutional, then lowering the eligible age to 0 shouldn't be an issue.
notmyfirstrodeo
A company arguing to keep the purchase of their products mandatory through the force of law? How compassionate... How big hearted...
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Think about how the lotto works, tons of ppl pay in and a few get a ton of money. Insurance is like the inverse of that.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
No one want to pay into insurance but that huge pay-in allows the sickest to not be left to die from lack of care.
notmyfirstrodeo
Insurance does not equal care. Expensive insurance means more people will go without covrage.
DavosWritesInShortHand
Insurance equals the resources to pay for care in a system that capitalizes on disease though...
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
That's why you generate a large risk pool to distribute the cost better and bring down premium costs, just like the letter states.
Trickky
Oh boy, please. As a young and healthy person trying to make it, I want to subsidize the insurance of old, sick people who had their 1/2
eion85
Young and healthy people get cancer every day. They get hit by buses every day. Don't be stupid, you need insurance too.
Trickky
Entire lives to be ready for this part of the life, while they are also telling me how irresponsible people my age are.
removekarling
It's called civilization
UrKungFuNoGood
You sound like a swell fella
Sharklaserspewpew
Lets see how you feel if you are ever diagnosed at a young age with a chronic debilitating disease through no fault of your own.
Sharklaserspewpew
Plenty of young people, prime of life, have terrible car accidents and suffer stokes or brain injurys.
Sharklaserspewpew
Everyone requires healthcare at some point to some extent.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
He's the same kind of asshole that would then bitch about not having universal healthcare when he needs treatment for something
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Are you the same kind of prick that bitches about your taxes going to schools because you don't have kids? You're in a society, act like it.
richincleve
TraceofSpades
Isn't the flip side of that is that these are the officials that society elected, so don't bitch because you don't support their plan?
awesock
No because bitching is a time honored way to inspire social change
TraceofSpades
So this dude is perfectly in the right to bitch about a healthcare system he disagrees with then?