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Oh good I have your attention
There's something going on right now that has nothing to do with Camp Imgur or Bernie Sanders
Like how cool is this?! We've come so far technologically!
So this cool technology will be unobtainable for some that cannot afford it
So what can you do to help? Please, please sign this petition!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rescind-medicare-proposal-restricting-access-prosthetic-limbs-and-returning-amputees-1970s-standards-care
Medicare has proposed new coverage, coding, and clinical care guidelines that would have a profoundly negative impact on amputee
To put it simply...
Why do I care? I volunteer at Camp No Limits
It's a camp for children with limb loss and limb difference and this will drastically change their lives and I'm not okay with that! Here's some videos about camp: https://vimeo.com/50941046 or https://vimeo.com/86735159 or their website: nolimitsfoundation.org
timlovesraffi
I'm a prosthetist, and I was going to post this. Good on you! Over half way there!
snoyes
Never more appropriate: Thanks Obama!
Xenopug
I'd sign, but vim not a US citizen so my participation would be invalid. Sign in my place Americans!
HorseMcFucker
I'm not a U.S Citizen either, but I got a 'US Zip Code' and signed anyways. (It's a website. Just search for Random US Zip Codes.)
demobytom
Came for the boobs, stayed for the boobs, didn't care about non boobs.. Boobs!
NotSoMuch
Honest question: does Medicare cover prosthetics for kids? I thought it was just for retirees.
Room9856
It's not about who they cover. They set the standards for all insurance companies. Once they do this others WILL follow.
Firehawkk
Boobs: the ultimate marketing tool
iyamgurting
tools.
zyler
Joke's on OP. I still fapped.
Tigorahan
First pic had my attention. Lost it at the second.
woodjoiner
My grandpa lost his hand at 18 and did not like the prosthetic of the 1930's. He built his own hand out of leather, rivets, and steal.
DaveTheReaper
they're not a cripple, they are a soon to be bad ass cyborg
catclicker
They didn't ask for this.
IWasBannedBecauseImgurSucks
"They never asked for this."
whyteraven74
The simple fact there's so much as one person who can't get what they need, let alone thousands, shows how messed up our priorities are.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
I don't think you understand the cost going into research and development and production.
Riloj
LurkingFigure
tl;dr babe, legislation stuff
aerodynamit3
Personally I couldn't put a price on one of my own limbs, so why should others have to?
RedBeardedBastard
This is actually very important and WE CAN do something about it. I sure as hell want a laser cannon as an option if I lose any limbs.
heavyd151
Not cool
chancegpt
What SyFy show is that?
Adthay
Scare Tactics followed the basics of low budget horror by adding scantily clad women whenever possible for no reason.
manik024
Asking the important questions
tracereading
I dunno, but it made me want to find Claudia Black and watch her bounce.
HolySimon
Probably Horse-Sized-Wasps-icane 4
BiggieShakur
I need to know too
TheWanderingDrunk
This just sums up imgur for me
goodguyC
Sigh....I mean, I love boobs too, but think of the amputees!
adambballn
Who says we don't have time to help the amputees and enjoy boobs?
WickedGoodBub2
Done✔️
FrankJ7
http://imgur.com/7SQwo3y
detectiveperalta
Took me so long to see it was "Not A Luxury"
Room9856
I'm an amputee below the knee on my left side I have a partial foot on my right side I'll tell you that my Prosthetic leg is my good one now
MadsBen
Click bait
underlord2132
That last summing up is nasty shit, basically if you haven't been hobbling around on a stump since you lost a limb, you get nothing. Nice.
CPatricoo
We probably need to work backwards and designate cheaper limbs first.
raptorclawhandshake
Has the cost of the new artificial limbs dropped to a more affordable rate to which most people could access them relatively barrier free?
raptorclawhandshake
Are they now required to be covered by insurance via ACA? I don't know the answers. Trying to determine if there is a good reason for this.
Room9856
My foot cost $5,000 the socket not so much but in below the knee. Above the knee legs are like $50,000 because of the technology in it.
raptorclawhandshake
Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the foot.
imanuglystinkyllama
This is so important. Anyone is at risk of needing a prosthetic. Don't eliminate what people need because of uninformed people's legislation
DarmokAndJaIadAtTanagra
it's so true. people seem to think it's just diabetics & soldiers that need prosthetics. no. a split second & it could be anyone.
DarmokAndJaIadAtTanagra
it's so true. people seem to think it's just diabetics & soldiers that need prosthetics. no. a split second & it could be anyone.
Room9856
Yes it is. One day I'm a heathy 22 year old next I'm sick and now below my left knee, right toes gone, and missing 4 finger tips.
DarmokAndJaIadAtTanagra
hot damn. i'm sorry you had to endure that but you are one hell of a trooper! you have all of my respect as well as one measly upvote. +1
cogs
Not legislation, but a rule change by administration bureaucrats. Even worse, IMO, as there's almost zero accountability.
WhoCaresAboutThePoints
I'd donate a limb if I could. I mean, who wouldn't want a sweet robotic limb?
LurkingFigure
Go-Go Gadget
cptkipard
One with custom attachments
WhoCaresAboutThePoints
Not to mention the great parking if it's a leg.
MadScientistInTraining
Yup.And make it cool and cyborg-y
LiterallyWorseThanHitler
Yep. Also, don't make it look like a real one. Maybe a transparent plastic hull to protect the mechanics, but nothing more.
wolfinhard
Agreed. Metal arms!
potentiallyunsafe
I guess the person receiving the donation from you doesn't.
aardvarckj
Ugghhh. You're gonna hate me and I totally agree with you, but, the cost needs to come down.
tempes156
Cost will only come down as new technologies are used. This is the driving force of capitalism...small demand, high prices.
vobra
You're correct and a dummy. The cost of the prosthetics shown is way lower than the heart surgery for the guy who cheeto'd himself to death.
fedthepoopy
Take it out of our 600 billion dollar defense budget, instead of creating more amputees lets treat the ones we have
KimfromNorway
you guys know that medical care, medecin and sutch items are huuugely overpriced in the US? some cunts are $ in on medicare/insrance -> you
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
what?
KimfromNorway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjGouBmo0M im sorry
SassyTheSasquatchh
I just can't believe making a profit from sick people is a thing in America and if I was honest that could soon happen in the UK :(
happyponypoo
Yea, and if we don't get the US on board with the rest of the world, I'm afraid the rest of the world will catch our greed.
BhawbTheMagnificent
You realize that a major reason you can have such low costs is because most of the R&D is done in America and we pay for it right?
iliketokeepitsimplestupid
It already does happen in the UK. They just aren't as greedy as in the US
SassyTheSasquatchh
I meant the privatisation of the NHS
MisterJellyBean
I have a genetic disorder that has made me sick since I was born. I live in poverty. Thanks medical debt. Chapter 7 shouldn't be an answer.
SarcasticComment
Ours allows independent insurers to bargen, which drives up the price due to competition, royally fucking the uninsured by passing the cost
SassyTheSasquatchh
That sucks!! Also all I was trying to imply was that the UKs government wants to make the NHS a profitable organisation and I don't agree
SarcasticComment
I understand. I was just explaining our system. Yours is vastly superior to the silliness that is the American system.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
by the end of this tory government there will no longer be an NHS. they've already drove satisfaction in the NHS to an all time low.1/2
ArniePye
If they privatise the NHS I will eat my own head. Parts may be contracted. But it won't become private.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
next they will say 'no one is happy with the NHS, the only way to save it is by privatisation.' 2/2
SassyTheSasquatchh
God save us all
jazzhead
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/411/964/9b5.jpg
SarcasticComment
Your healthcare system is built on government colective bargaining which drives down cost for all. The USA's isnt.
IMadeThisOnlySoICouldUpvote
Also, US companies sell to those foreign countries as well and don't have much if any profit margin. Thus, to recoup R&D costs, they pass it
IMadeThisOnlySoICouldUpvote
on to the US consumers. So the UK and other countries and their systems are part of the reason for high US costs.
timlovesraffi
That's not really how prosthetists work... But you know, keep making assumptions about our field.
whyteraven74
Costs may need to come down but not at the expense of the quality of life for the disabled.
LizardEnterprises
1/? But that is how insurance companies, even government ones, bargain. They refuse to cover something until someone can offer it cheaply.
LizardEnterprises
2/? That incentivizes companies to compete to deliver that product affordably. The short term cost is that some people are inconvenienced.
LizardEnterprises
4/4 in the future cheaper, and therefore available to *more* people.
LizardEnterprises
3/? But prosthetic limbs are not medically necessary, even if they are incredibly highly desirable. Restricting access now will make access
leechdemon
Sure, but how much better is a $300k leg than a $260k leg? The difference would employee a PT nurse for that same patient. We should... 1/2
leechdemon
still be paying to improve quality of life, but medical devices have WAY more markup than is socially responsible. 2/2
Paramedia
3d printing is going to flood the market and make it cheaper. We need to hold medical practitioners responsible to change, not the patients.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
So if you spent a ton of money developing something I should be allowed to rip it off and sell it myself. While you can't even make up the 1
leechdemon
Totally my point. I'm not saying we shouldn't pay, I'm saying the dollars are paid into the wrong pockets. Totally agree with 3d printing.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
2/ money that was used trying to develop it?
CredibleHulk
The top gif is from Scare Tactics, her name is Ashley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbbNVA6afUU cut to 4:27 for the actual gif.
ArmChairCommentator
You knew what the rest of us, non Americans/non-petition signing people wanted.
cwr3ck
hulk's comment is credible
SweetBabyYeezus
All I came here for, pun intended
SapiensMakeMeErectusNoHomo
She was friendly as hell, far more friendly than I expected anyway.
faintrespite
Wow. Scientist.
SlightlyNormal
Horny teenager, more likely.
elweezle
I'm 24 years old and I am horny on a daily basis. I guess I am also a teenager
isabbananda
Aren't we all?
MrFluffybutt
WHAT THE Fuck is wrong with some people in your country??? Here in Germany prostethics are insurance covered. Which asshat came up with this
poguemahon
Privatized healthcare @ it's finest. Best part is that we have still convinced ourselves that we have best healthcare. Much like education!
PhillipSemenHoffmore
Prosthetics are covered, it's the argument of whether they should be top of the line, ultra expensive or old school scary looking generic
MrFluffybutt
I´d say the ones the wearer is most comfortable with. It´s them that have to wear it every day
HieronymusFrosch
More comfort alone is not a sufficient argument in Germany either. It has to grant more functionality required in everyday life.
Krakencrotch
The lobbyists
fedthepoopy
Because corporations own our politicians
MrFluffybutt
I liked the idea taken from NasCar, where every politician has to wear a suit with all brands sponsoring them on it
steviEa
Well what level of prosthetics does Germany cover? Does Germany cover the super high-tech ones that were shown on this post?
MrFluffybutt
And healthcare is quite cheep here, a friend of mine has epilepsy and pays about 45€ a month with all costs for medication covered
HieronymusFrosch
Only if you can prove they offer more functionality that is needed in everyday life. Often enough this question has to be settled in court.
MrFluffybutt
Im not sure, I think whatever is necessary will be covered by a large part. Even by the state insurances, which are mandatory
gondring
"Necessary"...I doubt these would be deemed "necessary" by any state coverage.
UnpopularOpinionPuffinPersonified
Insurance does cover it here too. This post is about medicare, which is government insurance.
DAFUQisaLOMMY
someone who works for the insurance companies
graehall
Profit over people. The affiliation of profit as positive and people as individually responsible and deserving of their problems
FlatusIgnition
This has nothing to do with profits. Everything to do with recouping intense R&D costs.
graehall
I hear that, but I think that is absolutist in its unrealism, and almost conveniently seductive to prevent realistic and critical discussion
graehall
The bootstraps shit, and "I got mine, so others struggling are to blame and can fix themselves" mantra allows for unjust suffering :(
MrFluffybutt
Seriously, I thought insurance was there TO HELP, not fuck you over with a bat sized dildo. This is crazy..
defaultentry
THey're there to be responsible to their stockholders. Nothing more.
graehall
Recission, SO FUCKED UP. https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/rescission/
MrFluffybutt
WHAT THE FUCK. How can they be allowed to do this stuff??
graehall
Profit over people.
ChefBreadstick
Here in America insurance can cover prosthetics, too. You just gotta have good insurance.
MrFluffybutt
And what does good insurance cost?
aselfdefeatingattitude
"An arm and a leg." is the answer I'm thinking you were looking for.
ChefBreadstick
Depends. This is talking about Medicare, so if you've paid your social security for at least 10 years you'd receive part A for free 1/2
ChefBreadstick
and part B comes for $104 a month. Those two combined cover 80% of your hospital and medical bills.
MrFluffybutt
Is this the famed "Obamacare" system? And what happens when you haven´t worked for 10 years, lets say as an immigrant who lost a leg?
ChefBreadstick
This is Medicare, which has been around since 1966. It's available to people over the age of 65 and people on disabilities for 2 years.
Snarkoleptic
80% is nowhere near enough when the costs in the US are about 5 times higher than most other 1st World countries.
aHumbleVaudevillianVeteran
BTW, i got rehydrated at an emergency room after passing out from lack of water and it cost me 3,500 before insurance.
MrFluffybutt
Are you serious?? Then what do you have to pay for an ambulance ride??
whyteraven74
Insurance in America does everything it can to avoid covering them.
IronyEnoughForTheIronClub
Insurance isn't evil. In fact, insurance companies have an insanely low profit margin. The problem is hospital systems driving prices up.
MrFluffybutt
Some source on the small income margin of insurances would be nice. I dont really believe that to be honest
whyteraven74
Their profit margins aren't insanely low, and also they've done nothing to make things better.
HalfPint13
As far as I can tell insurance in America does everything they can to avoid covering anything.
BigAZNMan
They just take your money and bend you over after you've already been fucked by nature or a criminal
mousemarie94
The companies consider it a loss if they have to give any money for anything. They even have dr.'s who are contracted to deny real problems
RomeoWhereShartThou
That's insurance everywhere, not just in the US. It's worse there, however, because healthcare providers are for-profit private businesses.
ShowMeYourButtonhole
In fact, that is their very business model: Denying you coverage.
IcameHeretoChewBubblegumAndGiveDownvotesAndImAllOutofBubblegum
I've never had an issue in US. Lived in UK for 10 yrs. My foot is f'd up bc the UK gave it just enough to get by. US would've done too much.
Manateechica
Yea, but in the US you would have probably been in a mountain of debt. Couldn't you just pay/have the debt for better in the UK too?
whyteraven74
That's pretty much it. And worse there are people who defend it.
IcameHeretoChewBubblegumAndGiveDownvotesAndImAllOutofBubblegum
Except I've lived in US and UK for 10 years each. NHS is a joke compared to good health insurance in the US.
whyteraven74
And yet the UK has private insurance, that's vastly superior to the private insurance in the US.
netharia
I'd wager it's better than shit insurance in the US though. I've had to stop treatment on things 4-5 times, and the problems aren't 1/2
jazzhead
I bet the lobbyists who do that earn almost as much money, as they save through the immoral work of said lobbyists.
tabernacle
i'm on the fence. my brother has a prosthesic that the dr has been trying to get him to upgrade to one that costs 1/2
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
My step bro just lost his leg last month (all the way up to the hip). I'm hoping he can get a prosthetic, so I'm going to be sharing this.
biomechanic2010
Devices still need to be justified based on expected activity and capability. Relative low demand and supply result in relatively high cost.
UncleB0b
United States?
t00tie
That thing costs an arm and a leg!
0Lambda0
Dark and hilarious.
leechdemon
I know it's in poor taste, but I'm a father, and you do me proud. ^_^
fiera
They've started using 3D printers to make cost effective prosthetics. They're amazing!
MindTheBeard
There's a fuck load of media fluff in your statement. If you're interested in real info, PM me.
fiera
Uh I know people who work on them so probably know more than you.
MindTheBeard
Oh do you? I don't mean to be rude, but if I divulged to you who I work for, your friends would laugh you out of the house for that comment.
fiera
So you're saying you're one of the likely .1% of the population with hands on experience? Who is it you work for? Cite sources why I'm wrong
timlovesraffi
Prosthetist weighing in: There's a huge difference between these proposed changes and a $300k device. These changes limit most new amputees1
timlovesraffi
and many people switching legs’ ability to get something that is appropriate and contemporary. This would put general standard of care down2
timlovesraffi
"Appropriate" meaning indicated for a patient in a way that allows them to live an active, and as "normal" life as possible.
timlovesraffi
many levels, and close many small businesses. Figure: we only get paid for delivery, and will pay tens of thousands of dollars to purchase 3
timlovesraffi
each component, so we need to cover costs to keep our lights on, keep our patients served, and keep food on our tables. I’m very curious 4
timlovesraffi
to know what $300k device they’re recommending, before I weigh in on that. And did the doc recommend, or the prosthetist? Ask me questions!
tabernacle
$300,000. if you're going to rip people off with inflated medical device costs, expect more shit like this to happen... 2/2
TriptychAngel
Learn wood carving and make him a badass one
Room9856
But let me tell you why you shouldn't be on the fence. You're taking the opportunity away from a future amputee if this happens.
smaug777000
How much does it cost your brother?
tabernacle
that was the actual cost because insurance won't cover the advanced device. he already has a basic one that's painful and hard to wear.
Room9856
What does your brother like to do? Is he active? Because it comes down to what the amputee wants not the doctor.
whyteraven74
That sounds more like someone pushing something just because it's the latest and greatest not because it's necessarily worth it.
DartTarget13
Get a 3D printer.
fufuwewe
when it costs 10k+ for a ambulance ride this is what happens
CHOOCHOOMOTHAFUCKER
Not so much as a rip off. A lot of R&D went into it, so the prices will be high till the recoup the cost.
MindTheBeard
Hi, I work at the leading prosthetic manufacturer in the world. What the hell product and service are you getting for $300,000???????
tabernacle
some of that is prosthetist/fitment i'm sure. i don't know the specific model, but i do know he got a settlement from his work where the 1/2
tabernacle
2/2 accident happened. the dr is pushing him to use the money on a advanced limb NOW because he wont have the money in the future to buy one
MindTheBeard
Your problem is that the prosthetist knows about the settlement. I worked at a VA and a Shriners and now at a manufacturer.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST pay me that and I'll follow you around for 6 years acting as your arm.
ChristopherKostyshyn
Even the jerking part
DickMercenary
Tell him to get a job at Sarif Industries. They give prosthetics to even those that don't ask for them.
YouJustKindaWantIt
Aging population and more advanced (and expensive) technology is driving healthcare costs up. We'll be seeing more of this in the future =(
Cheomesh
It's going to suck when we're expected to discard meat-limbs for superior mechanical ones.
defaultentry
That depends. How do robot ankles/knees feel in the morning?
Cheomesh
Like crippling debt I guess
infernalspectre
It's not super related but my friend who had one of his legs amputated right after birth (can't remember the reason) grew up with (1/?)
infernalspectre
crutches, and is so used to them he doesn't like using prosthetics. Also dude is hella fast crutching. (2/2)
biomechanic2010
He's also likely to incur musculoskeletal derangement for compensating for such a period of time. Plus potentially having his hands free
squishybaker
shit, that better do everything for him, including wiping his arse.
wheresthebaby
Like masterbating for him too. Give "the stranger" a whole new meaning.
dhaskjdhawyajhdbsdbgwakjhbdnmcckclkklkl
if its an arm, i assume he could use it to wipe his arse, but id reccomend using toilet paper.
CallOfBacon
Maybe they could add a vibrating function for science.
Zechie
I'm going to need all of the lennies in the world to report here.
EnjoyablePerson
Reporting for duty ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
TheRealFireFrenzy
I dont want this to turn political but USA healthcare costs are nuts and while the new healthcare system is a step in the right direction...
MisterJellyBean
Healthcare costs and medical coverage, sadly, are very different beasts. Tackling costs will be much harder, so no one has and likely won't.
TheRealFireFrenzy
I used to work in a dutch medical R&D lab and an antibody based treatment in the USA costs like 18k a dose with 3 needed a year for Quality
TheRealFireFrenzy
of life stuff and the treatment to work... One of those treatments buys you like 3 years worth of stuff on this side of the atlantic
AkiyamaRuss
tbh, I'd rather see it come out of weighted tax like in Europe but it's too big a step for the US to take at once.
Caniac
No, it isn't. We need tort reform more than anything else, but no way a Harvard lawyer is going to address that in his program.
WoahShocksMyBrain
Lawsuits only account for 3-5% of excess cost in the us healthcare system. It's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be.
Caniac
Just curious if you are factoring in malpractice insurance? I only have anecdotal numbers, but what I've heard they pay is ridiculous
rukhgw2
As long as everyone remembers it's a single step and not the whole journey.
TheRealFireFrenzy
It seems the rest of this comment
TheRealFireFrenzy
's replies did not;)
FlatusIgnition
Research and development for fringe sciences is not cheap
ITalkAboutGoats
making it illegal to not have insurance is not a step in the right direction, it's a tax on the working poor.
TheRealFireFrenzy
I dunno it works well in NL where the companies are mostly keeping eachother honest by some of that good old fashioned capitalism;)
ITalkAboutGoats
All I can tell you is that as a result of this legislation I now can no longer afford the standard of care I used to.
PenisDonaldTrump
It baffles me that it costs as much a house. I know they can be pretty intricate devices, but holy shit man.
Imixmywhiskeywithmilk
You could buy 3 NICE houses where I'm at for that.
daelith
Testing costs money. There are organizations (i.e., eNable, Limbitless, etc) that are helping provide devices free by skipping the FDA.
Killertortilla
Shit's gotta be hard to make (interacting with living tissue) but goddamn 300,000?
timlovesraffi
Prosthetists get paid only on delivery, i.e. no hourly charge to patients. So delivery cost is what we rely on to cover our costs, 1/
timlovesraffi
utilize our expertise in clinical decision making, fabrication, purchasing componentry, subsequent follow ups, adjustments, facility fees, 2
timlovesraffi
paying support staff, paying our mortgage, etc. Our costs add up VERY quickly, and the companies who make the components put in years 3/
Tunisia
It's because it takes years of research by extremely qualified people to produce the designs, and they might only sell a couple of hundred.
Aaronb1138
I would agree with you if not for the fact that most of the research and development is funded by government grants and universities.
Iamnigerian
Probably only sell a couple because they're so expensive. I don't think theres a shortage of people with missing limbs.
aguacatedeldiablo
It's a really unfortunate situation... The only effective answer is "insurance" but we clearly haven't gotten that one all figured out yet
Tunisia
Lower R&D costs with research grants, rather than basing it on capitalism. But it's not a great cost/benefit for funding bodies.
Superking420
It's not as if they aren't being paid to do the research, though. Medicare is not meant to be for profit, and is paid by taxpayers
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Medicare also doesn't own the companies that make these. The companies that do have to pay millions in research, testing, and supplies.
LateNightBunnyParty
Try four times MORE than a house. That's insanity.
PenisDonaldTrump
Probably less than the average around where I live to be honest (New York)
melveys
Depends where you live...
defaultentry
That's almost five times as much around Wisconsin.
ShowMeYourButtonhole
It's because the US medical system is fucked. Things are grossly overpriced because of the insurance racket.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Companies gotta make back the billions they spent paying for research and development.
twominutesforhighsticking
In this case it isn't insurance so much as how much it costs to develop vs. how many they sell. Same reason orphan drugs cost so much.
ShowMeYourButtonhole
Emerging technology? Maybe, but the price should continue to decline as it becomes a commodity.
Sanosuke30001
I'm missing a limb and refuse to get one because they are so expensive
KnightOfTheBrohirrim
I hate to be that guy but.. God fucking bless the NHS.
Sanosuke30001
What is NHS ?
KnightOfTheBrohirrim
National Health Service. Free healthcare in the uk. Fuck your leg up? have an amputation and a prosthetic that'll do everything you need.
t00tie
Since they cost an arm and a leg you'd only have one limb left, the choice is obvious :p
MindTheBeard
There are non profits for people who really can't afford something. Amputees have a ton of support these days.
Sanosuke30001
Its a bit different when you are not an amputee. I was born with out my right hand. I might have to look a little harder and further away
Sanosuke30001
Its a bit different when you are not an amputee. I was born with out my right hand. I might have to look a little harder and further away
Room9856
I go to Hanger and I would go to one of there locations. They might work with you. If you live near Omaha, Nebraska the people at advanced
Room9856
Prosthetics are good people and will work with you.
Sanosuke30001
I live in central Ohio, Ohio seems to fuck over anyone they can these days
MindTheBeard
How old are you?
Sanosuke30001
26