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BreakfastWithCountChocula
Load in Paint then save as jpg.
ThaMunsta
Don't blame webp, it's great! Blame the tools you use that don't support it. It REALLY wasn't that long ago when gif files wouldn't open in anything and wouldn't display properly when shared
jnoahj
I can't use extensions on my work computer so I just snip images now. loss of quality, but at least it's not unusable garbage.
sixhoursinacarwithmymotherinlaw
Start the download, save as all file types, then change the name of the image to .png
Ankylosaur
In Firefox, try: about:config then set image.webp.enabled to false. It will break some sites (like ebay when adding images to a listing) but some sites will default to sending you jpeg instead
originaljbw
Window button, shift, s..... let's you take a targeted screenshot
soshutupBOI
Obv the extension that people have mentioned is the fastest way to go. However, you can also open the webp in microsoft paint and then convert it to jpg or whatever from there. Extra steps, but no extension, I suppose!
Comet260
I use Nomacs or MS Paint.
pyr0chaos
I got this neat little extra feature that puts my google app in an infinite loop whenever i download a webp on my phone. Have to force stop it just to fix it :)
Felrian
You can just manually change the extension to jpg and it will save as an image
AgamemnonsMemes
I fucking hate this thing..
Jacko707
Only thing Bing is good for is this. Still lets u DL full images right out the gate
gljames24
I'm still upset over chromium team killing Jpeg XL support against literally everyone else's wishes.
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/04/free-software-group-decries-google-dropping-space-saving-jpeg-xl-format/
CaptainHightower
They open in paint. LOL
CarlBassett
And Paint will then let you save it as a JPG......
DrDizzo
I just change it to .JPG
titaniumsnail
Doesn't always work. Some programs will still not open them.
BaklavaWearingBalaclavaWhilePlayingBalalaikaOnBlackLava
Windows photo viewer, even if they're renamed
titaniumsnail
Sometimes it does, sometimes not. Clip Studio also won't. Neither does InkScape with what is supposed to be PNG but has been downloaded as webp which sucks
Zetor
Then when you try to upload webp to the same site:
Telharmonius
Me too! I use IR Fanview to batch-covert all of them I find in my files! Totally annoying!
GreenFox
What's wrong with webp?
gablestout
It's unnecessary. It was created by Google 13 years ago as a smaller filesize replacement for JPEGs, when the average internet connection speed in the U.S. was 3.9Mbps, giving you comparable quality at about half the size. Meanwhile, it is not well adopted, and today's average mobile download speed is 76.6Mbps and the average fixed download speed is 205Mbps.
mike13815
It's an image format being adopted quickly by sites solely because it prevents people from sharing it, so people send page links instead and
mike13815
that ever so slightly increases web traffic and potentially sales. It's got some benefits but that isn't as important to sites as traffic.
realbrickwall
Can't send it to other programs (Discord, Messenger, Image Viewer, etc) without using a third program to convert it first.
MarioBoon
Sure you can. I've shared many a meme in webp format with my messenger and whatsapp
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
As far as I can tell, it's just frustration with the side effect of its lack of wide adoption. It's all about the ease of download, retrieval, and passing it along for most people, since the other benefits don't matter to them. I use services that require JPEG or PNG format for upload, so I gotta convert. Which isn't a big problem when you know how, but for the average dipshit trying to just save and send memes on their phone, it ends up being more hassle than it was before.
Higure
People like to complain that this new stuff is worthless and why can't everything be like it used to? Fact of the matter is, for web traffic, .webp is miles better than .jpg. But people resist change. Also, it's relatively new, so it isn't as widely supported in various software yet.
astronomypictures
"it isn't as widely supported in various software yet" - there, fixed your comment for you.
Higure
Nothing new ever is. It's a bad reason, because if that were a good reason we would still light our houses with whale oil.
Higure
And apparently it's a google invention. So there is that.
drunkbs
I wouldn't care if the internet adopted .poop as an image format, but software, especially photo manipulation software like photoshop, needs to be on top of supporting the importing of these new formats a little faster.
gablestout
New? It was released in 2010
Higure
Relatively new. We are comparing it to jpeg here, which is from 1992, and the setting is the internet, which started gaining widespread use during the 90's. Something that came out in 2010 is certainly relatively new in that context.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
As far as I can tell, it's just frustration with the side effect of its lack of wide adoption. It's all about the ease of download, retrieval, and passing it along for most people, since the other benefits don't matter to them. I use services that require JPEG or PNG format for upload, so I gotta convert. Which isn't a big problem when you know how, but for the average dipshit trying to just save and send memes on their phone, it ends up being more hassle than it was before.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
It's the software support that draws people's is ire. Nobody would give a fuck if it just acted like any other image format.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Lol autocorrect really fucked that sentence up.
TheTechDweller
If the only place you ever use webp files is viewing them on a browser through a website, then you're absolutely right. However you can't deny it's still fair to complain about changing to a file type that's just not well supported at the moment. Sharing images is a huge part of using the internet for many people, saying they're resisting change just because they can't share their memes now is just dumb.
TheTechDweller
If webp is so amazing, why doesn't it work in basic image editing software? And can't you understand that that lack of support is a fair criticism when we have existing formats that for most people work just fine.
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
Okay, I’m gonna need you to think about that first sentence for a bit. That’s like saying "if Unreal Engine 4 is so great, why doesn’t it run in Windows ME" or something. The people writing file format standards aren’t the same people writing all software that interacts with those files. It’s up to each software maker to update their products for compatibility with newer technologies.
TheTechDweller
No it's like UE5 not working in windows 10. Sure the engine might be great but if such a huge amount of the target audience can't even use it in the way they need, I'd use another engine yeah. Plus, while webp might indeed be more efficient, 99% of internet users don't have issue loading images, so it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
znuff
Ask your "basic imaging editing software" why it doesn't support it. Literally MICROSOFT FUCKING PAINT supports it out of the box. Can you get more basic than that?
JackyB
I save it as .jpeg and select All files and it works... for me at least
The22ndDoctor
Upload it to your imgur account, then download it from there.
kriswinters
There's a Firefox extension that I use that says that if there's a .jpeg version, it forces the webpage to default to that.
Imalwaysready
Ooh, I need that. I have the Chrome one that will save it as a PNG anyway, but when I initially looked on Firefox, I didn't see one yet. Thanks for the head's up!
wonkydemateo
Love it.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
If you search for "paste as file", you'll find a bunch of Windows apps that allow you to paste the contents of the clipboard as a file to any location. Right-click webp image, copy, right-click desktop, paste, choose jpg or png. Of course you can also copy the image, fire up Photoshop, create a new file (it automatically suggests the right dimensions), paste and save as.
tiderfish
They got other browsers too?
Imalwaysready
I don't know what it's called, but I have a Chrome one (other machine) that will save it as a PNG for any webp page.
SpaceSpeed
Similar for Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/save-image-as-type/gabfmnliflodkdafenbcpjdlppllnemd
SpaceSpeed
Similar for Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/save-image-as-type/gabfmnliflodkdafenbcpjdlppllnemd
SpaceSpeed
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ZiomalZParafii
I love how transparency is preserved and one can see comments under that popup (on desktop at least).
d0o0o0d
I just installed it, it works > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dont-accept-webp/
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Kyen155
mastertmo
Bookmarking...
Comet260
All hail the great Fox of Fire!
Choiced
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AnyUsernameWillDoForMe
Is there an equiv for chrome?
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StrayCatsMakeGreatKibble
You don't need to download any extensions. Simply browse to "about:config", accept risks and toggle "browser.download.viewableInternally.typeWasRegistered.avif" to "false". You're welcome. :)
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StingrayNine
should probable be the typeWasRegistered.webp, not .avif. Either way, very nice
ProppaGanda
Thenks for your service
waifusouls
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azarza
PSA: it is NOT a good idea taking instructions like this from randoms on the internet.. ie https://www.facebook.com/selfxss for more information.
Colopty
about:config is just an advanced setting page built into your browser rather than some shady third person website, toggling a setting in there is never going to be an XSS concern. They're advanced settings for a reason though so definitely don't go changing stuff in there willy nilly without knowing exactly what you're doing, it's right that you shouldn't blindly follow instructions like these from internet strangers, but the reason given is wrong.
azarza
absolutely, i just wanted the most self-explanatory PSA, and why these types of instructions are dangerous if the user doesn't understand what is happening
VodkaReindeer
One should also note that Mozilla thinks "backspace = go back a page" is an advanced setting.
NickRivieraMD
ew jpg. png master race
tuxyq
Each for their use, a photo in png is pretty wasteful use of resources. Graphics for websites you can use png. Claiming one is superior like that isn't useful
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
TI99Kitty
This is exactly why I started saving image files that *I* make as png, unless they have to be jpg for some reason (like Windows system files).
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
that's a perfect example of flat art that should be saved as PNG, but even so this JPEG was saved at too low a quality setting, probably on purpose for the meem
Cilvaa
This site allows you to convert webp to other formats, and much more. I've been using it for ages. https://ezgif.com/webp-to-jpg
darkchiron
You can just right click it, copy it, paste it into paint, and save it. There are other more technical ways but that's the most straight forward.
testzero
Now "just" do it with 4 dozen images. Get back to me with a status report.
letsstealahouse
FINE, I'll just go back to linking my gifs again like a gd caveman
devon292
YES YES FINALLY SOMEONE WHO FUCKING AGREES WITH ME!!!! Webp is the worst fucking image I have ever had to work with as a graphic designer.
titaniumsnail
Yep! When I found a browser extension that lets me download in original format my life got 1000% better. Just wish I had it on my phone.
CraftyGiant
eh I just added webp function to photoshop and went on with my day. Only complaint if that webp is a dumb name for the extension, harder to say than gif or jpeg
ongabonga
webp is significantly more advanced than jpeg. it's like people still pretending mp3 is the ultimate audio format
TheTechDweller
So advanced that it doesn't work in most of the programs I use. I'm not denying the technical improvement, but if support for the file type just isn't there, it's worse to implement it. It's like the first devices to implement a USB C port, no one had USB C chargers so it was fair criticism at the time to complain about changing something that negatively impacts the user.
Tarmaccian
"if support for the file type just isn't there, it's worse to implement it"… How exactly do you think you'll get that support, if nobody's implementing support? Somebody's gotta be first… Heck, I'm old enough to remember when certain popular formats required patent licenses. Now THAT definitely limited support…
znuff
Which ones my dude? Even Microsoft Paint supports it natively.
ongabonga
you sound like those ppl who refused mp4 video because their stolen adobe premiere couldn't read it when it came out. you're using the wrong programs.
RobotOverlordFromTheFuture
Webp is great, it's lightweight and great for web use. The problem is that some services don't support webp uploads, and you'd need to convert images to png or jpg. As a graphic designer why would webp cause any issues to you? Do your work in any format you want and just bulk convert them into webp at the end.
PTNLemay
No one supports webp. Not even Paint
znuff
Bad take my dude. It literally does.
RobotOverlordFromTheFuture
MS Paint is of course the superior image editing software, but hate to break it to you, MS Paint surprisingly supports webp.
brambleramble
quite a few apps do actually, there's a plugin for gimp, and photoshop opens it pretty much like any other file format it supports.
CanOnlySayYes
I cannot get Photoshop CC to open it. Wtf am I doing wrong?!
Boksha
Not sure whether it's a plugin, but if it is, it comes included with the program by default. A fresh install of GIMP will open Webp files just fine.
brambleramble
Exactly
hydrocarbon82
Nobody has probs downloading a pic that's 50kb larger - we have probs connecting to servers that don't wait several seconds to pull said file and start flinging data packets. It's like saying electric is better than gas but the on-switch for both is the unreliable part.
RobotOverlordFromTheFuture
Let's say a website like Reddit had an unoptimized image that increased the loading time by 1 second. Now we'll multiply that by their monthly visits (1.7B) just for the sake of an argument, and we're wasting a total of ~ 54 years of collective time.
hydrocarbon82
Watch a website load on a 100+ mbit line, including requests to 'build' the page'. The majority of the time is NOT downloading media, it is waiting for the server to get off it's ass. Banks of servers each with dozens of cores able to multitask aren't being held down by packet transfer. And yes I mean literally look at it. https://www.catchpoint.com/blog/http-transaction-steps
FlipTheBirdBeforeTheBirdFlipsYou
If the page is being built on request then there’s the problem. File format makes no difference. Am I right? Not quite sure what you mean by being built.
hydrocarbon82
An example of this is when a page, usually on PC with large screen, has chunks of the page (text bodies and already-downloaded pics) shift around as it receives new HTTP code - which is rarely more than 1-2 kilobytes. Bandwidth is NOT the problem, and I can't shout that from a tall building loud enough.
Randomstarfighter
Print screen and paint always helps
mindstorm8191
That's what I always use. Can't keep me from capturing pictures
Murvel
clipping tool ftw
MarcUK
I just rename to jpeg when saving. Never had a problem.
BlastFX
That literally does nothing. On Windows, the extension is only used to determine which program will open it. The program then ignores the extension, looks at the file, sees the WebP header and treats it as such. If your program works with WebPs renamed to JPEG, it will also work without the renaming.
MarcUK
Yup, but it gets windows to read the file and create a thumbnail, and that's good enough for me. :-)
BlastFX
I'm on Windows 10 and it's generating thumbnails for .webp images just fine.
tanebot
Snipping tool if you're lazy. Shift+windows key+S.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
if the image has been scaled down by the page, the screenshot will be the display size instead of the original
HedonistBeard
ctrl+shift+s works on several browsers. Snaps to page elements so easy to get a good crop.
firlefranz
Snagit is also great for Screenshot, even scrolling sites!
firlefranz
…or take that, it‘s free! Converts the whole Bundle of pictures…https://irfanview.de.softonic.com/
gesel
Why the hate? webp is based on VP8, true FOSS, patent free. It is meaningfully more efficient than 1992 era DCT, and widely supported, it supports transparency (png) and animation (gif), 10 bit HDR, and can be used inside .svg. I am annoyed by iOS proprietary .heic files that use heavily patented HEVC algorithms (aww, remember when algorithms couldn't be patented... good times) even though it is slightly higher efficiency, but an AVIF (AV1) may be worth it, adding 12 bit HDR.
astronomypictures
99.9% don't give two fucks about the details of the technology, it just isn't supported widely yet so it pisses people off because you have to do extra work to open it, convert it etc.. perfectly predictable, nothing to do with it being 'new' or the technology itself.
gesel
Indeed, though most of these whiners were probably gumming their digital devices back in 2010 when it was released.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
The hate is because it's an "online" format and it doesn't play well with OSes. On my Linux box for example, I had to install plugins for file browser thumbnails and image viewer support just to open them outside a browser, and even then, the image viewer treats them as separate from other image formats, i.e. you can open a jpeg and cycle through multiple jpegs, gifs, etc. in a folder or you can open a webp and cycle through webps in the folder but not both.
gesel
My various Ubuntu/Mint/Kali instances all handle it as a fully supported format. Have you installed webp-pixbuf-loader? I can see hating HEIF for being proprietary and patented and Apple's walled garden, and AVIF isn't well supported yet and isn't quite the revolutionary image format break from webp that webp was from JPEG, GIF, and PNG, a soup of format misery. Maybe JPEG XL will do better than JPEG 2000 did. Remeber that? I do. Wavelets FTW! Go BBC Dirac!
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
Mint has supported it out of the box for a little while now with its default file browser (Nemo) and image viewer (Xviewer), and longer if you took the time to install different ones that adopted it sooner I suppose. I haven’t encountered anything that treated it differently from other images once it started supporting the format at all. I feel like Digikam supported it before I even heard about the format.
znuff
That's a shortcoming of your image viewer. Have you filed a bug report about it?
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Incomplete or missing support in Windows, Mac OS, Adobe software, major Linux distros, even done if Google's own products, despite it being their format. That's not a bug. That's lack of adoption.
gesel
Even so, the suggestion is still valid: file feature requests (or bug reports). Most FOSS tools I deal with daily just do the right thing now, though in this vein last I checked inkscape didn't support webp, though svg just passes it back for decode and so is entirely compatible (the import module does webp->PNG). I suppose I should file a feature request for that. That's how we bring the good code forward. Proprietary code really should just die already.
gesel
feature request filed. I found someone else doing the same xml editing technique I did to add webp data to svg files. It's quite efficient and a nice way to integrate what would otherwise be giant size high resolution bitmaps into SVG files for greater zooming satisfaction from a given file weight.
znuff
Windows supports it. Microsoft Paint supports it natively.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Paint does not support it natively, it can open it at which point it is immediately converted to a bitmap. Windows still does not have complete support.
realbrickwall
Can't send it to other programs (Discord, Messenger, Image Viewer, etc) without using a third program to convert it first.
gesel
bizarre that they haven't bothered to update their libraries, it isn't a new format (2010). I guess the idea of open standards is anathema to their walled garden approach to owning content and product (users, users are the product). Just stop using such shitty platforms. looks like discord supports static webp but not animated they just need to update their libraries.
znuff
I can send WebP in FB Messenger.
Imalwaysready
Is that a selling point?
gesel
oh noe... anyway... I'm sure your grandparents will forgive the absence as long as the thought is there.
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
Replied to the wrong comment.
gesel
I just read it wrong - presumptive negativity. Too much internets for today.
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
Chrome extension takes care of that for you. Converts .webp to .jpg
Srcsqwrn
Oh! That's great to know!
DreamPhreak
Its Google's fault in the first place. "WebP is a raster graphics file format developed by Google intended as a replacement for JPEG, PNG, and GIF file formats."
Colopty
Which to their credit is a pretty good replacement, being a highly efficient lossless format that even supports animation. The fault is mainly on everyone else but Google, as pretty much every company whose whole business is to be on top of the game when it comes to image formats have spent over a decade sitting on their asses doing nothing despite having a plug and play solution provided to them for free this entire time.
Boksha
Nah, the fault is the people in this thread baselessly complaining nothing supports the format. Nearly all software worth using has supported it for years now.
vindik8or
I tried changing the extension to .jpg myself and it works.
michiyl
WhyDontYouMakeMe
My tokens! They'll be funged!!!
axelfive
I will require this later.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Can confirm, works great!
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
Allows you to select desired output format, not just .jpg Cheers!
iMcFly
If you're on a Mac and you've already downloaded a .webp image (or just don’t want to use Chrome), you can right click (or ctr click) on the file in Finder and select Quick Actions > Convert Image, and then choose from JPEG, PING, or HEIF formats. Also works for bulk conversions too.
ThatQuietlySmirking
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MadCat221
Same extension exists for for Firefox too.
IronCore
Found it and tried. Didn't work for me. It would download the image just fine and say that it was converted to .jpg or .gif, but then that file couldn't be opened by any other viewing program I tried. Hopefully it will work better for others.
Freak0zoid
That’s even better. Screw chromium. Yes it’s faster, but google has removed some of my favourite plug-ins. And it’s still big google.
xenorac
I had no idea of this, thanks!
DogGuyInCatWorld
COMMENTING IN ALL CAPS SO I CAN FIND LATER.
FizzleBurger
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I SHOULD DO THAT TOO
AmadaeusJackson
GOOD LUCK DUMMY. (Replying so you remember)
DogGuyInCatWorld
Sorry for the all caps.
SnailsAgainstTungstenSpheres
DID YOU FIND IT LATER?
SnailsAgainstTungstenSpheres
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Cranbananarama
I ALSO WANT TO USE CAPS.
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
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serleth
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thedoggoupvoter
What are the other extensions if I may ask
BeerCir
TaggerXA
Might want to look into “uBlock Origin” as an adblocker. Far more light-weight than “AdBlock Plus”, and without allowing for ads to buy their way to get whitelisted by the adblocker. “AdBlock Plus” changed in a big way, some years back.
TaggerXA
A bit of info on them selling "accepted ads", effectively negating what people use it for : https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads
Serpiko
Does the quality suffer? Can you change compression settings?
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IWasACatAllAlong
Why not to png?
Rebar77
I found a chrome plugin called "Save image as PNG" to right click and save as png. I love it.
Astral134
There’s a download as png too, that’s what I have.
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
It allows you to choose desired output format IIRC
drunkbs
Png can be bloated. If there's no alpha channel there's no need for png.
SaturnineCult
JPG is always lossy compression so quality issues may arise.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
PNGs turn out huge when gradients are involve, like in photos. It's excellent for diagrams and screenshots of mostly text and lines.
ScyntSkunk
so use jpg so you lose more quality from the image every single time it gets re-saved. yeah, great.
wartoaster
This your first time on the internet?
LeJoop
It doesn’t lose quality from being saved from a webpage or other sources. It can if you open it, edit and then re-save it or if you screenshot it and save to jpg again.
Boksha
What do you think happens if you click "Convert to JPG"?
crapolacoaster
What's wrong with webp?
SilverFish0
Nerds be angry about it or something
lovehandlesmessiah
Plus on many new systems the extension defaults to the Edge Windows browser to open, which is irritating.
SirVG
Nothing naturally likes to open it in the same way that it's easy to open a BMP, JPG, GIF, or PNG.
titaniumsnail
Nothing my ass. You can't open it in most image browsers or editing programs. And it is done to files that were jpg or PNG already so it's not like someone choses webp willingly.
realbrickwall
Can't send it to other programs (Discord, Messenger, Image Viewer, etc) without using a third program to convert it first.
Darjanator
Literally all of those work with webp if you update them...
somethingdark
testzero
LITERALLY NO FUCKING PROGRAMS FUCKING SUPPORT IT AS A FUCKING FILE EXTENSION
brambleramble
gimp, photoshop, and even MS Paint support it. plus there are quite a few converters out there.
JollyJokzr
Thumbnails show up in Explorer, XNView opens them as normal as does Paint.net, Paint and LibreOffice draw. Not going to download more software just to find something that doesn't work.
CitizenPrime
Not many image browsers can open it up which makes it painful. Let me ask instead, what is the benefit of using webp
adiving
There's no benefit to 90% of all image formats. I just can't be arsed to care if they all open with the same viewer anyways.
lighterletter
Smaller file size faster to render and send without losing quality
Iamyourcaptainnow
96.76% Support. And nobody gives a crap about IE anymore anyways. https://caniuse.com/webp
Nifty255
That's browsers. Not applications. I'd argue that Chrome and Firefox are the only 2 of ALL consumer applications with full webp support.
Iamyourcaptainnow
green is full support, nothing to argue there. But I did misread about the applications. Which applications have problems with webp? "With Photoshop 23.2, Photoshop provides full support to the WebP file format."
HedonistBeard
Any image browser that can't show one of the most popular image formats on the web right now isn't worth using.
Spooner1
Can’t open a webp file on my iOS devices. Dropbox can’t display them. Even the built in image browser for PC has trouble with them.
titaniumsnail
So, all of them? You also cannot open them in most editing programs, like Photoshop and Clip Studio. Only MS Paint...
ahleron
Can open in Affinity Photo
iRegretThisUsernameAlready
Really? GIMP has supported it for several years already.
HedonistBeard
There's native support for webp in photoshop, and I can even open and edit them without issues in CS6, probably installed a plugin for it.
JohnMike64
So it's a tool support issue. Then your problem isn't with websites it's with your tools.
CitizenPrime
Also, when I download something on my phone don't recall being able to open webp.
CitizenPrime
Photoshop only very recently added native support for webp (May 2023), before it was a plugin which was pretty janky. Photoshop is not a niche product.
JohnMike64
Yeah I suspect it's linked to adoption and demand. I assume webp is only really now starting to take off
Felberin
Mainly better compression ratio, so webhosts that serve the picture 100M times, saves some -- not insignificant -- amount of bandwidth costs.
hydrocarbon82
So...they're using the cost savings to use better servers, right? Since the slowest part of web browsing is the slow-reacting servers. Right? RIGHT?!
mlcarter815
The servers aren't the issues, it's the unoptimized code running on the servers.
leechdemon
This. As a user, I absolutely HATE Webp's, since seemingly nothing supports them. As a web dev, I completely understand why they're quickly taking over the internet. Also, for a time, "JPG/JPEG/JPG2000" was a huge hassle as well - now everything supports those, so it's not an issue. The same will be true of Webp, eventually.
turtlefarm
I love webP, and I'm also a web dev. Saves a ton of band width and storage, and also helps make heavy sites faster. I have not run into anything that would not support it, so I really have no idea what you mean by "nothing supports it". IE doesn't for sure, but I don't see IE users anymore, one site had 1 IE user in the last 3 months.
leechdemon
PS support was pretty bad when I was using webp a lot, but it's been a few years, I'm sure it's better now. Like with anything new, it takes time for everything to recognize the new standard.
StingrayNine
webp is great for servers, but why give the user a webp version when downloading it manually? it doesn't help the end-user in any way
Higure
Because automatically converting things under the hood without telling the user is generally a bad idea and a practice that is best avoided. The image you were served was a .webp, if you choose to download it, the default should be a .webp.
Felberin
Well, most sites don't expect users to save pictures anyway. But if you pay for service that sells you images and delivers them in webp format, it may be the original format file was uploaded, or you may want to ask the service provider to put bit more effort in their download game if they want to keep your business.
Felberin
Also, since I keep forgetting ctrl-enter does not make new line in this one, now in separate comment: Added bonus, it doesn't work on Adobe products, so people are forced to realize how much of nothing Adobe is charging them and how little they are doing for that price :P At least hopefully that's the takeaway and not "I'm mad at file format, because one app I like using it insist on not supporting it"
MarioBoon
Doesn't work on adobe products? Why do you lie?
titaniumsnail
Getting the popup "This file format is not supported" says otherwise.
mikeatike
Latest versions do support webp. But they won't ever patch old versions to try to force people to use their shitty subscription.
BahbusTheGreat
People who pay to use Adobe software amaze me. The software is so bad and they're all convinced there are no viable alternatives.
MarioBoon
That's why there's this mass exodus to the Affinity suite, right? Oh yeah... there isn't because like it or not: affinity is not as good as adobe is.
ironymus
GIMP for the win
mikeatike
Give me an alternative to lightroom that actually has categorization an organization abilities. Darktable's tags system is just trash. I'm convinced nobody that uses darktable has more than a thousand pics.
dasklaus
Please tell me how to properly do color conversions for print with color profiles so I get the proper black. Every two years or so when I have to print something professionally I default back to InDesign and Acrobat because I can't fucking get things to work with anything else.