Environment win?...

Aug 19, 2017 11:35 AM

jezzi9Flyer

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We are wrecking the planet's eco systems to make way for our food,we are throwing almost half of away.

isn't it that today enough food makes it to store shelves to satisfy the caloric needs of 10 billion people?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

throwing it away is composting..

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I work at a non-profit animal rescue/public ed. If it weren't for the donations of "bad" food we would never be able to feed our animals .

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pcc natural markets in the Seattle area has been doing this for decades

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Grocery store I work for donates to food banks and what's not edible is sent away to be used for compose. Recycles oil too.

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 1

I see perfectly good good being thrown out in kilos just because it passed the 30 minute timeline.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Seems like it would increase the cost of food, as now that grocer is responsible to staff, store, pack, etc. old produce/food.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I worked at an elementary school in CA and we were forced to throw away children's lunches that they didn't want. No food could be saved

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I bummed rotten produce from the store for compost, got home, every single piece was excellent, ripe, tasty, simply imperfect looking.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Technically food->trash->incinerators->energy.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't they do that, like, 2 years ago?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But big chains actually cook the food in their own catering/restaurant unit. 1 ton of chicken expires in 2 days? Cook it into dishes

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Auchan and Carrefour are doing it here in Romania. Kaufland has a grill/catering unit too.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a consumer, I just want good food and don't really care about waste

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't take that, Africa!

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

All it takes is one person getting sick with donated foods and said company will be open to a lawsuit

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Yeah no, at least in America. Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Act of 1996.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

The charity thing sounds like it would get unhealthy, but the animal feed/compost sounds reasonable.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Well, "best before" sometimes means "after that it'll start decaying; still edible but not as good; however don't eat it 2 years after that"

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In NYS farmers are no longer allowed to sell apples that hit the ground. Those used to go to Motts but now they're wasted and rot.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I worked at a grocery store where all our produce was donated when it was deemed unsaleable.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I think a lot of countries could learn from this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

In the UK M&S don't donate food because they got tons of complaints when they did. The food was too rich and causing dirreah in homeless.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Too rich?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Energy? isn't it common to burn garbage for energy anyway?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not much; fossil fuels burn better. But I guess the trend will change and bio-energy will become more and more spread.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't most supermarkets throw food away -because- it's illegal not to so do, i.e. for hygiene-related rules?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. It's not illegal, it's just a liability for them if someone gets sick.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was assuming it was forbidden by something like national health inspection standards.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Now it'll be illegal yes to do so!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This happened ages ago...

8 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 5

Yeah my town has this Food Bank that gives them poor jobless people okay food that may go bad soon, sometimes frozen

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That's what I was thinking, at least more than a year ago if not longer.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

And sorry to be a Debbie downer but that law was retracted a few months after it passed

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I also read once that public transport is free in dt Paris due to pollution. That is not true.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Maybe it was one day they banned cars.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They did it on some days when pollution was particularly threatening. Banned many cars too. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26574623

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As much as people try to act like France is so forward-thinking, how TF wasn't this the deal before? Who destroys it as option number one?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well, I used to work for a grocery store that donated out of date but edible food to soup kitchens, but stopped because a homeless 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

guy got sick and sued them. Ruined it for everyone else.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Ain't that some shit. Hate seeing good intentions halted because of one person. "Litigious society" barely begins to describe our world.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

If I saw that as a ticket out of homelessness...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Of course, judges with common sense could prevent this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Refine arbitrary "sell by" dates. Works for medications too. We are not the problem, our laws are.

8 years ago | Likes 142 Dislikes 12

"We are not the problem, our laws are." Spoken like a true narcissistic american.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

Thank you!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Always ask why first.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I work with packaging medications; regardless of shelf life - I've seen up to 3 years - the exp date on packaging is always 1 year. 1)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Such a waste.. but working in a medical facility I feel like I see nothing but severe waste. It's a wonder these companies stay afloat. 2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

One man's waste is another man's profit.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Haha what?! We are 100% the problem!

8 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

We create, we waste, we pass stupid laws, who else could we blame?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Muh librulz, obviously.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

B-BUT THE GOBERMENT

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Once elected, a persons's IQ doubles and they acquire The Wisdom of Solomon. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Exactly

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Or at least, educate people in what that actually means. There are so many who think that food spoils quickly after the "sell by"- date, /1

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I don't know about other countries but in UK "Best before" just where it MIGHT taste bad but still safe, "USE BY" is "food poisoning risk".

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But the use-by "risk" is just where it becomes statistically measurable, how probable? No one can really say, it is some risk. 1%? 0.01%?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes, we got the "use by" for stuff like eggs and meat. Anything with potentially harmful bacteria that keep on multiplying.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, kinda hard for bad bacteria to multiply in a bag of salted potato chips, but they can go stale so they taste like cardboard.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

while this is only the date until companies guarantee for the quality of a product. Like, mustard doesn't actually spoil, but if it's a /2

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, there is difference between a "freshness guarantee" so "oh this just tastes stale" vs "shit, actual botulism toxin here".

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

few years older than it's sell-by date, it loses flavour, especially spicyness. If they had sold it to you that way, the expected hot /3

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

mustard might turn out to taste way too mild. Just for example.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

With milk you have ten days. That's a long time.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I actually lived without a fridge for almost 2 years - knowing I can rely on my nose helped. The most ridiculous example was my Ex: he /1

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

actually threw away a still closed pack of dehydrated soup. Just to be "safe". *eyeroll

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Fuckin what. If it's sealed and not bulging or sealed and dry I trust it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thing with medicine is they have to play it extra safe otherwise people could get seriously poisoned

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

Rarely. The main problem is proving to the FDA that your drug doesn't degrade quickly. It's cost-prohibitive.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Proving that your product won't turn toxic with time is something I think of as a fairly good thing.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

It's fundamentally a conflict of interests as your drug "expiring" means they give you more money to cover the same demand replacing pills.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Corporations work for SHAREHOLDERS, they can't justify to shareholders spending big money proving something that'll undermine their revenue.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's true, but after a certain point actually proving it stays safe indefinitely isn't feasible to strict standards. It's harder to prove

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

A negative.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Define "poisoned". I found a bottle of Percocet from 10 years ago that I thought was stolen. I've taken worse but it hit me like a semi.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Your response upon seeing a bottle of decade-old Percocet was to take it?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Immediately, no. I have chronic pain issues now and it was maybe a year after I found it that I took one, not that it makes it better.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My concern was more a substance abuse one than an expired meds one, so that's mostly ameliorated now lol. Waiting a year isn't exactly

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But, but, free Percocet! Better yet, "found" Percocet.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

We should encourage people to reduce food waste at home too. Not sure what incentives could be created, but that would have a huge impact.

8 years ago | Likes 216 Dislikes 9

In Sweden we got a green bag we put our food waste in and that becomes bio-gas

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I make fruit punch wine with my leftover fruits and veggies. Freeze the stuff before it turns and pop it in a carboy when you have enough.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

my personal incentive is, that planning (and therefore reduced wastage) saves money. I use that on going to restaurant/fancy food

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

How about spending less on groceries? We do that already, but produce goes bad before we get to it sometimes... so we don't buy it often

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Frozen is best anyways

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've always eaten my leftovers. I couldn't imagine just throwing it all away.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm an entitled PoS so I over buy quickly decaying food which I end up throwing away and hating myself for it in the process.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lead by example, make a virtue of it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

iDK, the food costs money incentive works on me.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

In Linköping, Sweden, we have a green bag for our food that we toss that is made into biofuel

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Where I am we have recycling bins at every home, and they are planning on putting in compost bins too that would be picked up weekly

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

They just starting that here. Organic garbage gets picked up every week, regular garbage is now only every other week.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

So unless you want your garbage can to overflow, you have to use the compost bins.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Here in Sweden we get taxed depending on how heavy our trashcan is. However, we can get a separate one for compost

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's called gardening. When you grow it you don't waste it

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Sure, I garden myself and have a compost bin. But that isn't possible for everyone.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We use all our leftovers as compost and only grow 'non-lazy' plants and trees

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My hometown has a strict limit of how much waste they will collect. They will collect unlimited recycling, but only two garbage cans.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

First get consuments used to imperfect but still perfectly fine vegetables. So many of them wasted for not being shiny enough...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Freeze all your veggie scraps. When you have a ton, make your own OG veggie stock for soups or pasta or anything. Yummy.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Same with useless meat scraps. The bones, fat, and gristle. You haven't had rice until you've made it with stock from a rotisserie chicken.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Fuck yes. Best dishes are made of scrap for some reason.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Some people would refuse to reduce food waste out of spite. PESSIMIST MAN AWAY!

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

In Northern Ireland we have small brown bins for each house which is for food scraps, otherBiodigradable wastes.The plastic bags decompose 2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In warm countries, it comes from generation to generation, that food that was not eaten will be bad tomorrow, from the times when fridges --

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

did not exist. Today there is no need to throw food away, but people still do it because their grandparents did it because their --

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

grandparents did it. I came to a warm country from a cold country where even centuries ago people could store food outside the house, and --

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hate to see people throwing away perfectly good untouched food for no rational reason

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I grew up in an area where compost bins were common. Where I live atm, we don't have them. Every time I have to throw biodegradable stuff to

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

a normal bin I feel bad. Also, we have a neighbour who doesn't gaf, throws clothes to paper trash, normal trash to glass bin etc.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, just what we need is more restrictions on what we can do in our own homes...please. No.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Welcome to civilization.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Incentives, not restrictions. Like making it cheaper to have recyclable waste fractions collected. You can still toss all your garbage 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

2/2 together, you'll just pay ten times more for disposal than if you separated your waste.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Here in Germany, there are very specific bins for different purposes, one just for organic, biodegradable matter.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That sort of thing helps a lot.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why isn't saving the planet a good enough incentive? Sigh ...

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Because this isn't going to save the planet.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Education and empathy. Monetarily a garbage tax based on weight? But realistically I don't see that happening or being efficient.

8 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 3

I eat a lot of fruit, like pineapple & mangos that occur lots of food waste for the food waste bin. I'd be charged for healthy eating.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I think they are saying weigh the garbage seperately from green waste and recyclables.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Garbage tax based on weight would fail (even if it got through the legislature) by people throwing food away in the woods.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In Sweden the garbage trucks weigh your garbage when they empty the bin, and then you're charged by how much you throw away.

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 4

A rural area nearby tried to limit the number of bags it would pickup per week per household. It just encouraged illegal dumping in thewoods

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And im going to guess trash fires in burn barrels?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Either that or burying the trash.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How do you do this in an area with a huge population density? Would take too long and time is money, so would cost a ton, no?

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

Here an arm picks up the can and dumps it in the truck. Just add a scale to the arm. Have some sort of scan tag w your address on the bin

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

One flaw is that in populated areas you'd have a lot of people dumping their trash in other people's bins.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

We would here, but it's too easy for people to sue the pants off companies, so they refrain from allowing it in many cases.

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Sad and true. That scene from Suburban Commando is right on point anymore. People are fucking quick to sue.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Not as easy as you think. Watch the last week tonight episode on food waste. Pretty informative and occasionally funny.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is 100% false. Look it up. Stores often don't donate food because it's cheaper to throw everything away.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Lets be honest, in the US, stores would likely just give it back to the supplier as compost, get a discount from them, and charge more.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It seems heartless but realistically there are some fuckin vultures out there.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is false. The good Samaritan clause says companies aren't liable for goods they donate, the liability falls on the food pantry, etc.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This was a big thing when I worked at a supermarket. We donated as much as we could but legal matters prevented a lot of it. /shrug.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My elementary school sold leftover cafeteria food to pig farmers to raise money for after school projects. It got reported and they stopped.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Poor people are known for their access to top lawyers. :P

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No, its more to due with the fact that its to expensive for stores to package donated food.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, it's cheaper and easier to just throw it away than to coordinate a pickup and have employees save extras.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

At Walmart, discarded produce went to compost and anything that was good but not sellable went to the foodbank.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I dont know where you are, but if its the usa then you cant be sued

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

in the uk that happened to sainsburys

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure that a lot of companies would gladly serve tainted food to homeless people for the tax break.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

Walmart donates food to food banks because people got upset so many employees relied on benefits to live.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Sad;y being dragged trough the legal system is punishment enough, even if you "win". Especially without looser pays.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Here's the thing: you can only sue what the law permits. If you change the law, people _can't_ sue anymore. I know, crazy right?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My store lets employees take home damaged food. And gives some vegi waste to people who make deliveries to the store for their animals.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

John Oliver did a video about this. He said companies cant get sued over this.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Is that actually true, or just something you've heard?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(something they've heard)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Have a waiver "Hi, do you prefer "risking" sickness to "actually" starving? It's probably safe but it's dumpster bound sign here & enjoy."

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same with trial meds. "Are you 90% sure you're dying in the next year/month/week/day. Sign this and roll the dice for science test pilot!"

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Quality control, it's a job. ppl do it. Companies have insurance and get sued a ton anyway

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes, it's absolutely not about unwillingness, it's about the legality of it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

No. The law protects you unless there is malice. Stores don't do it because it requires employee time and coordination.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My Popeyes used to donate all leftover food to homeless. They stopped because they were afraid of getting in trouble

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All the major grocers in Michigan donate unsold food. Kroger, Meijer, even Target.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's a few Good Samaritan laws in place (here in Colorado) that disallow those lawsuits. No one here has ever been sued from donated food

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All you gotta do is have em sign a waver right? Am I wrong? Is this not a simple solution?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You don't even have to do that. The only liability by law is if people donate contaminated or unsafe food knowingly.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"it's too easy for people to sue" is not true. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Emerson_Good_Samaritan_Act_of_1996

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The actual reason stores don't donate is that it's easier to throw it all away. Being good takes more effort than being bad.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Feel like this is a false statement that makes sense to folks that think lawsuits are everywhere. Doubt that is the reason for not donating.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yep. It costs money to save unsellable food and coordinate donations. It costs less to throw it in the trash.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They're actually protected IIRC, give me one second to find you a link.

8 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 2

The protection only applies to food donated to a charity, and only to commercial food, not to cooked food given directly. (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It kills me as a chef & attorney, but the cost of packaging and certifying our leftovers is more in time & money than buying new food.(2/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oooh, good point, have you sent a letter to your congresscritter?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When I worked at Walmart, we composted produce and donated dented canned goods to charity

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

The one near me donates theirs to a local farmer to grind up into slurry for pigs.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That is the least evil thing I've ever heard about Walmart.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Keep in mind, it's not a corporation mandate. It's just what our store did

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

They donated it to a charity that they owned, where they cremated children and puppies. That evil enough?

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

They sometimes do good. Could take a few pages from Costco

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Or Kroger... which is a little biased of me.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Worked at a buffet for a while, asked boss why we didn't donate extra food, he said the same thing. It opens up the company for liability.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We need to stop the spread of this misinformation. It doesn't. You can't sue unless you can prove intent to harm. Very difficult.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

False, The Federal Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act of 1996 protects food donaters from lawsuits.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Common misconception, USA isn't as litigation happy as media makes it. Was an Adam Ruins about it. TLDW, it McDonalds smear campaign in 90s.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I thought that was disproven?

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

My buddy's dad worked at a Sam's club, they donated a bunch of (refrigerated, not frozen) meat to a soup kitchen. The soup kitchen left 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

the meat in the fridge for two weeks then tried to serve it. Needless to say the meat was well past edible by then. The soup kitchen 2/3

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

then turned around and blamed Sam's Club. They don't give away food any more.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When I went to the Health Department, this is what they told me, that it wasn't okay. Legally though it may be alright. I'm not so sure now

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It was also a while ago so the law could have changed between then and now. I don't know when the law went into effect.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If i remember correctly walmart donates food

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

And have separate bins out back for compost. Bakery, meat, and produce items all go out instead of with the trash.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Target does too. Still throw a bunch away. Literally into the compactor.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

But do they donate waste food?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Common misconception. Can't sue for getting sick eating donated food.

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 2

Bloated cans killing people from botulism? I seriously doubt it. Even the U.S. doesn't hate the poor that much.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Like people wouldn't try...

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I mean you'd have to find a lawyer to take that case, probably on contingency. I can't imagine many attorneys shelling out the money to file

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

A case against a nonprofit with likely small pockets knowing most cases are unlikely to succeed.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

No one in the US has actually tried

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Which speaks volumes... :p

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Give it to farms for compost or to feed animals

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

I imagine even doing that there'd still be quite a surplus

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Better to have a lot of compost than have it go to a landfill

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Honest question: if it went to a landfill wouldn't it still turn into compost/decompose anyway?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

iirc, no. i'm vaguely remembering an article about pulling 50 year old newspapers out of a landfill, still readable.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not usefully. Compost is like super soil for plants. Lots of nutrients to help them grow

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

In the US there are good faith laws. Typically you cannot be sued unless you knew it had gone bad.

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8 years ago (deleted Aug 23, 2017 8:38 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Yeah but these cases aren't usually filed by lawyers being paid upfront but instead are contingency cases and I doubt you'll find many

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Companies settle and pay the attorneys because it's cheaper than paying their own defense costs.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who are lining up to pay for that case considering the fact most won't be successful.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not for companies like Starbucks. We still do it, but we risk getting fired taking food home or giving it away

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That is the employee taking food stuffs without permission. AKA stealing.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Agreed. But one can't deny there is a criminal amount of unnecessary waste going on

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They don't protect companies enough. Plus, it's not just lawsuits, but media and PR. "Homeless shelter food poisoning outbreak after 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Whole Foods unloads old garbage bread on them." Doesn't even matter if the bread wasn't the problem. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I worked in produce for a long time. I couldbt handle all the food that would get thrown away just because it wasn't cosmetically perfect.

8 years ago | Likes 806 Dislikes 6

Just be thankful your mom knew she'd go to jail if she did that when you were born.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

What's the point of this comment?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love buying the ugly apples at farmers markets. 1/2 off for a perfectly good apple? Hell yeah, you are gonna be a pie.

8 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 0

And that's just what went to your store. 2/3 of the produce doesn't even make it to the store because farms throw out odd looking foods

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Produce workers unite! The amount of potatos/onions/tomatos/apples that gets thrown out is horrendous. Even perfectly ripe bananas

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah... too bad we can't force people to buy something they don't want.

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Farmers throw away so much because things won't sell if it doesn't look perfect,even though there's nothing wrong with the food

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Mark it down for us cheap folks or donate to local food pantry. Or juice it, bottle it up, and sell that.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah I usually buy 'odd fruits' because they are cheaper and usually only have a small bruise.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But they are talking just about edible food.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

now you know how I feel....every day

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I useto work on a garbage truck. We go to supermarkets weekly to get their trash obv. The crazy thing is most of the things in the bins 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Are still edible: bakery foods, cereals, snaks .etc In most places its illegal to sell goods that have "run out". Bullshit i have a 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Storage room filled with cookies and snaks that ive nicked months ago they are still delicious 3/3

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I agree nutritionally and taste are not particularly affected by shape or color. Though some taste might be attributed to color in terms

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Of ripening. What really annoys me is all the good food we waste at my job. We don't even serve it out to homeless people who can take it

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I currently work in a warehouse packing produce onto skids to send to stores we have to throw stuff out 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sometimes because it has already spoiled, Not a huge amount of it but over a few weeks it adds up. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Thank god our warehouse gives us stuff for free that has expiration date too soon to be sent to stores.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Nice which company

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Eh, it's just some logistics firm that rents warehouse space for other companies, afaik.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I know companies in the is that would love to donate that stuff. (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

However, they can't because of some pretty crazy regulations governing food banks and the like. (2/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Korean super markets put those in an "ugly but still good " pile lol

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Taco Bell. Any mistake during food prep meant junk it. Not even allowed to eat em on breaks. I know the pain

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Not a Communist, but it's fucked we create more food and housing than people on earth yet we let them starve.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You know what is really fucked? 1st world countrys sell subsidized food to 3rd world countrys, so the farmers of these cant sell their food.

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WHY ISN'T IT ILLEGAL HERE? I don't understand how there aren't laws in place for such waste!!!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Sadly it's mostly due to liability if you have away food and they got sick they can sue you.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It doesn't make sense to me that they would be able to sue. It's donated food, you run the risk of it being tainted or hurting you.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Liability. Stores don't wanna get sued over donated food.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

When I was a butcher we donated extra meat to the wolf sanctuary

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My local grocery carries 'misfit' fruit. I make it a point to stop there first. It's ugly and delicious. :D

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Exactly, just because a carrot is banana-shaped doesn't mean it tastes bad.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I would buy a banana shaped carrot

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Carrot for scale (*note not to scale)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Monoculture of bananas in central America is a shiit show right now. Exists because we want our bananas yellow and unbruised

8 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

I wasn't allowed to take a nice pizza home because it's sold chilled but someone put it in the freezer. They made me throw it away

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Me as an employee btw

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And only about 40-50% of the harvest even GETS to grocery stores because it doesn't "look right" when harvested.

8 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 1

Yes but...Exact % depends on the crop, but a lot of the "imperfect" produce gets routed to processed foods instead of grocery store produce

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

That is why we have so many varieties of crisps. It uses up the not so pretty potatoes.

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 0

Mmmm crisps.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I like your accent. I really do

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm not sure what you think my accent is actually like but thank you I guess.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

British since you said crisps. I guess. Not in this dude's head

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

when i worked as a grocery store bakery clerk i had to throw away shopping carts full of perfectly good bread every night

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well it's time at the checkout where the customer complains "it's bruised, please waste 5 minutes of your time fetching me a pristine one".

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Businesses are on tight labour budgets, we don't have the manpower to be running errands like that, it's not worth even minimum wage's time.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah a bruise on an apple (especially golden delicious) meant trash on a busy day or markdown on a slow day

8 years ago | Likes 203 Dislikes 0

Perfect cider apples. You want them a little bruised, sweetens it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not to mention having worked on an orchard over a summer golden delicious are very hard to not bruise, special palm picking technique

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I was a produce manager briefly. I got the local zoo to come pick stuff up a few times a week. Theyd give us free passes. It was cool. >

8 years ago | Likes 119 Dislikes 1

Walmart gives much of their unsaleable food to the local food bank. Not all of it, but the edible stuff.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Clever. Seems even if the kickback is small it is better than nothing at all.

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Well that and it does not really cost the zoo anything to have people walk around. They may even buy stuff at the zoo. Win win for the zoo.

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We never asked for anything in return. They just gave us some from time to time. It was cool to go to the zoo and see our cull in habitats.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

< But the store stopped doing it the same week I quit.

8 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 0

Womp wahhhh

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Same week the sun shined a little less brightly in the zoo animals lives.

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