So I'm assuming this little rally car is FWD, so yeah I can see just hammering the back strut "mostly" back into place. Even coming in dead last is better than not finishing.
It probably is now... but when it started the race, it definitely was 4WD. But getting it back on the road was certainly more important than getting the 4WD system back together.
From what I understand is that if they can't fix the car, the whole event would be over for them. And if there is damage to the safety equipment (like rollcage), they can also be forced to retire.
I’m not familiar with the sport, how is a 30m delay not detriment enough to effectively be out of it? That would be a gargantuan spread for finish times for them to still be in the race.
Stage racing against the clock. It'd be way too dangerous to have multiple cars on track on a rally stage. The only place i know of where that happens is Rallycross which is raced in tracks inside of stadiums.
Rally races usually have large gaps between cars. Hence why folks let their guard down on the sides of the tracks (i'm sure you've seen some of the near-miss tomfoolery). Lots of ways to goof up. Sometimes going off course will cost you minutes, not seconds.
I think this is the service park which is open maintenance after each stage and is not timed(I think), like the guy who drives it in is not even wearing any racing gear.
I also think the first 10 who finish a stage gets points, so just finishing can still be worth it. And if you've ever watched rallies they're freaking insane, it's kinda surprising that most make it at all...or stay alive for that matter.
Rally is against the clock, not the other drivers directly. They run in stages where each driver goes through the course, then is allowed to go back to their garage stall to do simple fixes on the car. As long as they make it to the starting line of the next stage before they're scheduled to run, they can take "as much" time as they want.
There's a reason that their 10 lb sledge was painted in Citroen colors, because every single team has one and uses it like this. The name of the game is speed, and when you're trying to repair fast there's frequently no better solution than to just beat something into place
Genuinely working in a body shop this is very true. Obviously we don’t value speed like they do, but there have been plenty of times I’ve beat something into place.
But how does that relate to Citroën then? Btw, in Dutch Citroën (with an umlaut) is spelled the same as citroen (without), which is a lemon, so as a kid I always wondered why it was called after a fruit
Prolly cuz that makes it standard kit and thus reasonably purchased with some degree of theming to match the team cuz marketting is wild and extends fucking everywhere.
Of note, in the US a 'lemon' is a term for something that was broken from the get and will never be fully operational. We actually have some laws protecting consumers from lemon products like faulty cars and whatnot.
drakkaris12718
Why does mine take up to a month yo do something simpler? Lazy basterd.
thepandasbum
Still a better wheel alignment than my local garage can do.
ibuycrap
We’ve been trying to get a hold of you about your car warranty.
CheeseBalls
I wish the WRC Youtube channel wasnt such a joke. Their highlights videos are around 3 minutes and blast awful music over the sounds of the cars.
cgt9803
"Are you sure it needs a wheel alignment?" I think this guy's trying to rip me off.
IliveIdyeIliveagain
XuncuTheTiger
"Fuck this piece of metal in particular."
SnoiD
No way that thing didn’t still wobble like crazy after that… but I guess they’re used to that
madeejit
This is not the repair shop, this is the Citroën factory, this is just how they make them.
HybridReindeer
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJldndlN3Q0c25zc2pwYmNlMXAyaGpmdmhzc2MwOGtrMHhmYzB4Z3VzOCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/kgKrO1A3JbWTK/200w.mp4
KaJuN
Who was driving that car? Samir?
Skawomplious
That guy under the car while the other guy smacks it with a sledge has a LOT of faith in those chintzy-looking jackstands.
TupacAintDead
How????
vizeroy42
LOTS of training and experience. These guys aren't just any mechanics. They know the car inside out and can assemble it manually - including welding.
gablestout
Here's full thing at 16X speed. 32 minutes real time:
OldBikerDude
'I read your little book. It says that I can change parts'
gablestout
camn333
"Let me fix that for you" *pulls out a steel mallet*
Evenmoreuselessname
Ah yes, the Trabant method https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mIAYxWCXF8A
SpaceHaggis
That did indeed buff right out
ClownishAntics
That guy at his last job
GeminiDreams
justplainvanilla
MadHatter69
I only understood 'something... something... oil leaking... something... FLOUR' and I think that's enough for me to know what's up
InfOracle
Flour power
WhiskyBravo
So I'm assuming this little rally car is FWD, so yeah I can see just hammering the back strut "mostly" back into place. Even coming in dead last is better than not finishing.
vizeroy42
It probably is now... but when it started the race, it definitely was 4WD. But getting it back on the road was certainly more important than getting the 4WD system back together.
WhiskyBravo
Good point
eastend666
If this is a race car - and bear with me because I'm not too bright - why would it have a heavy spare tire in the back?
iceynyo
They need to make it to the end to get to the pit... The driver is allowed to change the wheel if needed to accomplish that
eastend666
Thanks.
gablestout
Rally Car. each stage can be 20-30 miles long, meaning they can be up to 15 miles from a pit.
eastend666
Thanks.
flacoloco
meanwhile my car has been in the shop for 4 months.........
hfctom
Supply chain issues. Also, you now owe $1,500 in Tariffs for the oil filter
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
Yeah, the chop shop maybe....😄
iceynyo
It takes longer if the fix is supposed to last more than just til the end of the event
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Waschbaerkoenig
If it wasn't in the car manufacturers colours, it might be the reason for the delay.
drakkaris12718
Ford right?
toomanymemesandnotenoughmemeory
Damn impressive work! Wonder what the actual elapsed time was for this fox?
Easterhog
I read years ago that the Wood brothers (NASCAR pit crew) could do an entire engine swap and have the car back out on the track in 30 minutes.
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
Under 30 minutes and this is by no means the worst a rally car has pulled into the pits only to make the next stage
johnxbear
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everspaceman
30 mins IIRC. Found the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBnPnYh8iw
thetonestarr
I was going to estimate 15 to 20 based on what we saw, and figured there was probably another 10 or so that we weren't down. Pretty close!
Considering that thing would've been deemed totaled by any insurance company, that's fkn nuts
Chibidragon
20 minutes to do the job and 10 minute strike for better pay, these are French after all.
Radix865
From what I understand is that if they can't fix the car, the whole event would be over for them. And if there is damage to the safety equipment (like rollcage), they can also be forced to retire.
SacrificialClam
Take it out back and shoot it.
TheChlorineAddict
I’m not familiar with the sport, how is a 30m delay not detriment enough to effectively be out of it? That would be a gargantuan spread for finish times for them to still be in the race.
OneGuyOnTheInterwebs
Stage racing against the clock. It'd be way too dangerous to have multiple cars on track on a rally stage. The only place i know of where that happens is Rallycross which is raced in tracks inside of stadiums.
stonerhino
Rally races usually have large gaps between cars. Hence why folks let their guard down on the sides of the tracks (i'm sure you've seen some of the near-miss tomfoolery). Lots of ways to goof up. Sometimes going off course will cost you minutes, not seconds.
Radix865
I think this is the service park which is open maintenance after each stage and is not timed(I think), like the guy who drives it in is not even wearing any racing gear.
I also think the first 10 who finish a stage gets points, so just finishing can still be worth it. And if you've ever watched rallies they're freaking insane, it's kinda surprising that most make it at all...or stay alive for that matter.
But I'm not completely familiar with it either.
justadudeemp
Rally is against the clock, not the other drivers directly. They run in stages where each driver goes through the course, then is allowed to go back to their garage stall to do simple fixes on the car. As long as they make it to the starting line of the next stage before they're scheduled to run, they can take "as much" time as they want.
CitrusyGarlic
There's a reason that their 10 lb sledge was painted in Citroen colors, because every single team has one and uses it like this. The name of the game is speed, and when you're trying to repair fast there's frequently no better solution than to just beat something into place
justfiguredoutimc4azyanddumbb
Omg not children
OutOfTheHat
I sort of miss the days of percussive maintenance on my TV.
DontcallmeLen
Yes, it’s called the Clarkson method. https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlbnBhM2d3aTJlcnByM3RzZzZlNXJocXVyOXJjcGp6ZmdoajBiZGJrMCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/bxwtewdxpDuBq/200w.mp4
horseWnoname
beat to fit, paint to match
Druidhunter77
Genuinely working in a body shop this is very true. Obviously we don’t value speed like they do, but there have been plenty of times I’ve beat something into place.
DarthAndy
NKato
They don't even bother beyond the most basic alignment requirements. Let the driver adapt.
SnoiD
But how does that relate to Citroën then? Btw, in Dutch Citroën (with an umlaut) is spelled the same as citroen (without), which is a lemon, so as a kid I always wondered why it was called after a fruit
witkop
That's because the brand was founded by a Dutch guy named Citroen, but the French couldn't pronounce that, so they added an umlaut.
Ulthirm
Prolly cuz that makes it standard kit and thus reasonably purchased with some degree of theming to match the team cuz marketting is wild and extends fucking everywhere.
revasseur
It's because finding the umlaut key on an American Windows keyboard is a pain in the butt.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Of note, in the US a 'lemon' is a term for something that was broken from the get and will never be fully operational. We actually have some laws protecting consumers from lemon products like faulty cars and whatnot.
SnoiD
Yeah I know, there’s a wonderful interlinguistic coincidence here, not that all Citroens are lemons, but still 😀