Governor Abbott promises to get to the root of the problem, mental health. (He seems to be overlooking the part where heightened political rhetoric driving crazy people to do crazy things.)
Sadly, this tally drastically underrepresents the right half of the table. In 2021 alone, there were 47,286 US gun deaths (54% suicide, 43% murders). You'd have to have 67 times more of the amount we currently see (705) just to capture ONE YEAR. *source: Pew Research 2023 **yes, I am bedridden with far too much time on my hands.
A biblical amount of people could die from guns at 1 time and Republicans won't care. Its the Republicans or their families that would need to die during a mass shooting for them to maybe change their minds and do something. Those checks from NRA are to good for them to care about the amount of blood on their hands.
How do you draw a negative tick mark? Because the guns are in SUPPORT of tyrants (like Texas' new bill to allow the Sec of State to just decide who wins elections).
The tyrants counter is wrong btw. Keep championing a state monopoly on violence, that'll never get abused via jim crow, black codes, slave codes, slave hunter laws, poll taxes or indian wars...
What you need to understand is that right wingers have profited off of countless deaths for generations. Nothing new, even if it’s on the news and happening close to home.
Definitely not advocating for it. Just pointing out the smallest number that would have to die for gun control legislation to succeed that barbaric warlord state.
Folks, you GOTTA grasp this One. Single. Fact. It's the primary feature, NOT a bug. There's no "pivot", no "getting it" for them. They need people to reach despair. That's the springboard from which authoritarianism is launched.
You know when they’re going to care? Possibly-but not necessarily-when the mass shooter knocks down one/a few of their own. That’s when we’ll see just how deep the NRA has its claws in their hearts.
Are you going to pretend that it's normal or acceptable for 4 people to get shot in a 1st world country? This shit is almost unheard of in Western Europe, but here we are.
It's unheard of in most of the US too. Nearly all the "mass shootings" are gang turf wars or robberies gone bad, and more than half of them take place in just 31 bad neighborhoods in even fewer large cities. Across the nation, 54% of counties don't have a single homicide by any means most years, much less one from gunfire. The definition was chosen specifically to bump up the numbers with unrelated gang wars. We've had I believe only six random attempted shootings, out of 338,000,000 people.
They’ve decided years ago: they want more deaths. More deaths means more people scared, more people scared means more demand for guns (and for “law-and-order” candidates), which means more deaths.
I agree that they definitely don't care about some deaths—say, married women who die for lack of pregnancy-related healthcare—but I also think there's a "pour encourager les autres" feeling about many others. Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman come to mind.
Well, deaths are not that significant part of total population, especially with pushing the forced birth agenda. But few hundred innocent killed is such a big scare it outweighs haveing those few hundred working in decade or few for practically free.
It is not about overthrowing tyrants at this point, it's more about people having chronic micro penis syndrome and being too insecure to not kill others. U won't overthrow a tyrant no matter how many guns you have. Only the military would matter. If the military is on your side, congrats u don't need guns, if the military is on the other side, u also don't need guns. U aren't gonna win a duel against an Abrams or an aircraft carrier.
This is total bullshit. Guns would absolutely matter. Insurgencies are fought with guns and explosives. It's easier if you already have guns but the second a military or rather a portion of the original military brings their gear into a fight esp against their own people then they are basically handing explosives to insurgents. Why did confederate cannons have a big ass USA stamped on them? How did Ukrainian separatists get weapons to fight against Ukrainians? The same shit will happen here.
Every time I say this I get downvoted to oblivion, so I’ve jst shut up and blankly stare when ppl say “it’s such a tragedy that a shooting happened on XX in XX” and then just go on w my day because, honestly, I just can’t deal w the crocodile tears and the falseness of our collective responses.
The collective responses are not necessarily crocodile tears, not sure why you would say that, many people are genuinely saddened by the deaths of children.
Because, if they were TRULY saddened by the deaths of children, they’d ACT. Instead all we get are “thoughts and prayers”. Most of these deaths could have been prevented through simple, common sense regulation. When 11 (ELEVEN) people died from tainted medication, we changed the ENTIRE system and instituted safety protocols. We have done NOTHING to prevent these shootings. You’ll need more than a simple statement to convince me that those tears are real.
Like what? Cultural shift won’t work (every one of those shooters was a good guy w a gun in their heads and there’s just enough ambiguity in what a good guy w a gun actually is that they can show horn themselves into it), you can’t reason w someone who believes only what reinforces their narrative, and there’s just too many people who see “legal” as “morally right” and who don’t actually understand “stand your ground” or “castle doctrine” laws. All they hear is “it’s ok to protect yourself/1
“ and fail to understand that the actual nuance written into the law - but w/ the crap enforcement (see the Trayvon Martin case) there’s no actual consequence to such lack of understanding. It is 100% our choice to live in this type of country. And it will be 100% our choice once we decide it needs to change. Issue is is that we don’t want it to change. Not really.
They already made their choice, love. They don’t care about kids, even their own. They are heartless wretches whose only love is filthy lucre. They see kindness and caring as proof of inferiority; an exploitable weakness.
We need the timeline where Nick Cage doesn't steal the constitution, but just to crosses off some things in the 2nd amendment a little bit so it's not so misinterpreted.
lu·cre /ˈlo͞okər/ noun. money, especially when regarded as sordid or distasteful or gained in a dishonorable way. "officials getting their hands grubby with filthy lucre"
EroticZombiePants
They openly admit they won't ever do anything about it.
KamikazeGerbil101
Top story on Fox was Bud lite ! What assholes !
brianglass10
Governor Abbott promises to get to the root of the problem, mental health. (He seems to be overlooking the part where heightened political rhetoric driving crazy people to do crazy things.)
Cinnaderps
I mean there was that one time in Tennessee. https://www.military.com/history/time-world-war-ii-veterans-overthrew-corrupt-local-government-tennessee.html still... gun control needs to be enforced and loopholes closed. US is fucked so bad right now.
Lassannn
Not to shit on the parade here, but the republicans will watch gleefully as everyone on Earth dies in mass shootings.
FlaminkoFactor
Sadly, this tally drastically underrepresents the right half of the table. In 2021 alone, there were 47,286 US gun deaths (54% suicide, 43% murders). You'd have to have 67 times more of the amount we currently see (705) just to capture ONE YEAR. *source: Pew Research 2023 **yes, I am bedridden with far too much time on my hands.
DrSchlepenstein
A biblical amount of people could die from guns at 1 time and Republicans won't care. Its the Republicans or their families that would need to die during a mass shooting for them to maybe change their minds and do something. Those checks from NRA are to good for them to care about the amount of blood on their hands.
SophieClockwise
The actual answer?
armorhide406
except them, they don't care about anyone except themselves
anjeleyezjr
They won't. Sorry for the us or them rhetoric, but it is, quite literally, us or them at this point. The whole damn party needs to be removed.
Nowisgood1951
there is no number great enough
QuartzBlue
How many more? It doesn't matter, they already decided there is no number that will change their mind.
Hefelump
Alot more
sverebom
How many more need to die before the people decide to do anything about it?
iDrawStuff
Ghlargh
What you need is a zoomed out view of the board continuing out of the building and disappearing over the horizon.
Illithidbane
How do you draw a negative tick mark? Because the guns are in SUPPORT of tyrants (like Texas' new bill to allow the Sec of State to just decide who wins elections).
Sully0811
The tyrants counter is wrong btw. Keep championing a state monopoly on violence, that'll never get abused via jim crow, black codes, slave codes, slave hunter laws, poll taxes or indian wars...
ChuckTenor
Idk if even their own kids becoming victims to mass shooters would change them at this point
DukePhelan
When we had a attempted violent overthrow of the democractily elected government the gun nuts were all on the side of the coup.
Soggyapples
They were unarmed
FaithAlone
What you need to understand is that right wingers have profited off of countless deaths for generations. Nothing new, even if it’s on the news and happening close to home.
JorgeLourenco
Precisely 272.
TonyFiore
Mmm let’s see 1.3 million Covid deaths and Republicans never gave a hoot.
vindik8or
How many 2nd Ammendment Republicans are there? That's how many need to die.
Soggyapples
Openly advocating for genoside ^^
vindik8or
Definitely not advocating for it. Just pointing out the smallest number that would have to die for gun control legislation to succeed that barbaric warlord state.
AstrophysicsDork
Folks, you GOTTA grasp this One. Single. Fact. It's the primary feature, NOT a bug. There's no "pivot", no "getting it" for them. They need people to reach despair. That's the springboard from which authoritarianism is launched.
Firehoser
You know when they’re going to care? Possibly-but not necessarily-when the mass shooter knocks down one/a few of their own. That’s when we’ll see just how deep the NRA has its claws in their hearts.
Soggyapples
Do you truly believe 100% of people who have died from gunshots were democrats?
mardukkur
We tried that experiment, they didn't give a shit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting
mardukkur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Scalise#Gun_law
GoodChange
The US has had over 200 mass shootings so far in 2023. Each shooting has more than 4 deaths, sometimes many more…
GoodChange
The lines in the picture are 11*11*5=605 so not even enough for the deaths so far in 2023.
GoodChange
So far this year over 14600 total gun deaths in the US. So you’ll need 25 of those boards just to mark…
GoodChange
the gun deaths of less than half a year.
EroticZombiePants
Mass shootings refer to the number shot not the number that die. If someone shoots 4 people and they all survive, it's still a mass shooting.
GoodChange
You are correct I guess. Still a bit of trauma for them and their family. Still nearly 15k dead from guns in the US since new year
DirtyDan67
Are you going to pretend that it's normal or acceptable for 4 people to get shot in a 1st world country? This shit is almost unheard of in Western Europe, but here we are.
OliverOtter
It's unheard of in most of the US too. Nearly all the "mass shootings" are gang turf wars or robberies gone bad, and more than half of them take place in just 31 bad neighborhoods in even fewer large cities. Across the nation, 54% of counties don't have a single homicide by any means most years, much less one from gunfire. The definition was chosen specifically to bump up the numbers with unrelated gang wars. We've had I believe only six random attempted shootings, out of 338,000,000 people.
NiceGreenArrows
Oh, the multiple people being shot were shot because someone was being robbed. That makes it very distinct, and totally fine.
EroticZombiePants
Nah. Just giving the definition. The merely wounded are victims too.
wingineer
They’ve decided years ago: they want more deaths. More deaths means more people scared, more people scared means more demand for guns (and for “law-and-order” candidates), which means more deaths.
earthtokelly127001
Until they start shooting up Nascar crowds nothing will change.
DaveSamsonite
TrueNorthernLights
I don't believe they WANT more deaths, because then who'll work the cheap, demeaning jobs. They don't CARE about the deaths.
wingineer
I agree that they definitely don't care about some deaths—say, married women who die for lack of pregnancy-related healthcare—but I also think there's a "pour encourager les autres" feeling about many others. Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman come to mind.
HangingOnTheEdgeOfTomorrow
Deaths make stock number go up.
Felberin
Well, deaths are not that significant part of total population, especially with pushing the forced birth agenda. But few hundred innocent killed is such a big scare it outweighs haveing those few hundred working in decade or few for practically free.
Vamp13
It is not about overthrowing tyrants at this point, it's more about people having chronic micro penis syndrome and being too insecure to not kill others. U won't overthrow a tyrant no matter how many guns you have. Only the military would matter. If the military is on your side, congrats u don't need guns, if the military is on the other side, u also don't need guns. U aren't gonna win a duel against an Abrams or an aircraft carrier.
Jamesstin
This is total bullshit. Guns would absolutely matter. Insurgencies are fought with guns and explosives. It's easier if you already have guns but the second a military or rather a portion of the original military brings their gear into a fight esp against their own people then they are basically handing explosives to insurgents. Why did confederate cannons have a big ass USA stamped on them? How did Ukrainian separatists get weapons to fight against Ukrainians? The same shit will happen here.
Sully0811
Found the neo-lib.
Vamp13
U found the veteran that knows what the military can do.
autodidacticcortex
Always amusing when people argue this. Afghanistan proved you wrong, boot.
Firehoser
Utouto
PutItInNeutral
The scoreboard in this cartoon doesn't even cover six months of children getting killed by firearms in the US.
corndude101
I don’t think that’s the point…
Usernamegererator
Does the US have days of mourning after an event like this?
DirtyDan67
If we had days of mourning after these types of events, we'd never go back to work again
req4adream99
Every time I say this I get downvoted to oblivion, so I’ve jst shut up and blankly stare when ppl say “it’s such a tragedy that a shooting happened on XX in XX” and then just go on w my day because, honestly, I just can’t deal w the crocodile tears and the falseness of our collective responses.
WoodHandle
The collective responses are not necessarily crocodile tears, not sure why you would say that, many people are genuinely saddened by the deaths of children.
req4adream99
Because, if they were TRULY saddened by the deaths of children, they’d ACT. Instead all we get are “thoughts and prayers”. Most of these deaths could have been prevented through simple, common sense regulation. When 11 (ELEVEN) people died from tainted medication, we changed the ENTIRE system and instituted safety protocols. We have done NOTHING to prevent these shootings. You’ll need more than a simple statement to convince me that those tears are real.
autodidacticcortex
Perhaps since legislation seems to be a no-go we could try something else?
req4adream99
Like what? Cultural shift won’t work (every one of those shooters was a good guy w a gun in their heads and there’s just enough ambiguity in what a good guy w a gun actually is that they can show horn themselves into it), you can’t reason w someone who believes only what reinforces their narrative, and there’s just too many people who see “legal” as “morally right” and who don’t actually understand “stand your ground” or “castle doctrine” laws. All they hear is “it’s ok to protect yourself/1
req4adream99
“ and fail to understand that the actual nuance written into the law - but w/ the crap enforcement (see the Trayvon Martin case) there’s no actual consequence to such lack of understanding. It is 100% our choice to live in this type of country. And it will be 100% our choice once we decide it needs to change. Issue is is that we don’t want it to change. Not really.
autodidacticcortex
I’ll give you a hint: Detroit used to be a nice place before we sent the jobs away.
AmbroseWolfinger
They already made their choice, love. They don’t care about kids, even their own. They are heartless wretches whose only love is filthy lucre. They see kindness and caring as proof of inferiority; an exploitable weakness.
TrilithonStone
TBH ... beyond the ones driven purely by cynical greed... no one really understands wtf is wrong with those people....
INeverWaitForIt
They even had a chance to overthrow a tyrant--and all they did was throw their lot in behind him and line up to lick jackboots.
thxcolm2
We need the timeline where Nick Cage doesn't steal the constitution, but just to crosses off some things in the 2nd amendment a little bit so it's not so misinterpreted.
CaptainHyperbole
lu·cre /ˈlo͞okər/ noun. money, especially when regarded as sordid or distasteful or gained in a dishonorable way. "officials getting their hands grubby with filthy lucre"
VashTehStampede
FormalWareBytes
Ty
AmbroseWolfinger
Um… thanks?
CaptainHyperbole
Other people may find it helpful
kickmyballsrealhard
I did
Mikehippop
CaptainHyperbole
What is this?