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Ayrich
Socialism and social programs are different. As is social Democracy. We need to send a better message. Socialism is a trigger word fm the rt
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
*cough...Texas
MikeReese9
Yes, but it’s not SOCIALISM socialism.
Pikachaan
The joke being that none of those are socialism.
Jubetsu
Used to like imgur when it was more about funny pictures and less about one-sided propaganda
UncomfortableAnswers
What have the Romans ever done for us?
aface62
I like how the Army Man doesn't even have to say anything. The military is socialism in it's purest form.
Treblaine
That's still not socialism, that's welfare. But they've called welfare "socialism" for so long that now neither mean anything.
Munchman347
The 'Social' in S.S. doesn't stand for 'Socialism', per se. It was self funded until Reagan stole Billions from it, now it's Trillions...
rangermcfadden
RideTheStimutacs
I like how the green helmet guy isn't saying anything, he's just like "AAARRGGGH"
LutraLazuli
Sums up my dad
blainetog
Oh man, I WISH these chuckleheads were asking for their vaccines!
anarchoFeline
tbf the gop voters are the most vaccine skeptical group in the country so they aren't really demanding the vaccine
xflaxen1
This tops the stupidest and most inaccurate thing I have ever seen in imgur. Good thing I don't get my news from memes.
MaddogDelphi1997
Jake Angeli is the guy on the far right. I believe he's getting free room and board along with organic meals.
Correction: his real name is Jacob Chansley but people call him Jake Angeli. Don't ask me why.
YourIceCreamMan
I though MAGA types were Anti-Vax, Anti-Farm Subsidy, Anti Debt (checks)? And BTW Workers have PAID into SS to get their right to checks.
ahernandez
It honestly kills me on the inside that those that hate socialism benefit from it most
Hotord
And Medicare, and police, and fire department.
thisisprocrastination
Police and fire department are not examples of socialism in any way, shape or form. Except maybe thought police and "reeducation" camps.
cyborganism
I really, really, REALLY want to stop seeing images and illustrations of that QAnon shaman idiot. Quit giving him all the fame.
datphone777365
Infamy*
twsx
Conservatives are not hindered by logic. Which isn't surprising considering you have to be somewhat of an idiot to be one in the first place
KurtfromLaQuinta
I've been paying into Social Security for almost 50 years now. I wouldn't call that socialism.
leroy666
You don't understand how socialism works, do ya.
nonCanadianGoose
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VraedenHughes
Whenever I talk with someone who hates socialism, I simply ask them to define it, then watch their heads spin when they don't know.
Marx made poignant issues with capitalism, but didn’t outline any structure for socialism which led it wide open to despots to exploit an >
>already abused population. Since that how it debuted, it’s hard to separate the 2. No one thinks about prosperity when they see a swastika>
>Mao and Stalin horribly misappropriated the term
Speedmetal05
Education. It all comes down to education.
freckledkink
I know a lot of people who are very educated who are this stupid. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, literal rocket scientists...I don't understand
How people can be so educated and so stupid. They're all over the country.
katecakez
Perhaps they have considered all sides of the argument, and made a well-reasoned decision that they support one side and not the other?
koboshi
I pay twice as much for food now so that people with kids could afford not to work at all and live off my taxes.
Our government gives money for each child family has, some get so much they don’t feel the need to work. Food has never been so expensive.
And since food becomes more and more expensive they demand more money from government.
1wholurks
All of those make sense except for social security. You pay SS taxes and receive a benefit based upon what you pay in. Not socialist...1/2
2/2. Public schools, the post office, amtrack and many many more beloved government subsidized institutions are democratic socialist.
oravavaara
I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's fundamentally different. I pay taxes for roads, I pay (different) taxes for SS.
The amount of taxes I pay for say my state roads is not directly proportional to how often I use them while SS benefits are proportional 1/2
2/2 to how much I pay in. SS is more of an investment than an socialist entitlement.
Seminole4ever
Social Security benefits, in general, if received more than 5 years, exceed the taxes that anyone pays in over their working career. For
Libertarians would say that everyone should save for their own retirement, independently.
fpro
trump supporters/republicans/conservatives are very stupid people. they think it's a virtue to be stupid, like some kind of badge of honor
kootrell
Broad statements like this are super frustrating and counter-productive.
why frustrating? it's the truth. if they weren't stupid people then we would have not had the last 4 years and an out of control pandemic
Problemwoodchuck
Anti-intellectualism has been a staple of the GOP for 20 years. It runs so deep today that they refuse to acknowledge any issue as complex
KommissarLyus
20? Try 50+ years. Possibly longer.
Moljnir
Ignorance is strength.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
uptaco
Death is eternal life.
Jokerthehulk
The funny thing is that they think the same way of liberals. I saw one guy that said 99% of liberals are dumber then his dog.
ActualLazyEnhancedXenos
Yup this is a common dehumanizing tactic. The weak, timid, ignorant liberals who are elitists in terrorist cells vying for world domination.
There's also the fact plenty of these people are so warped that the idea of helping the less fortunate/minorities at any cost is dumb
Distractedlurker
Wait, it’s only a common dehumanizing tactic when conservatives do it, but true if liberals do it?
Well yeah. The problem is the other people obviously.
I used an example that was relevant to the original post, I made no assertions that it's a uniquely conservative act, or excused liberalism.
Not even when you referenced “weak timid liberals”? That seems pretty specific to me.
icommentwithsteveharvey
Elsuave
You are not going to pay more, some mogul won't buy a 150 mill House or 500 mil superyatch
Fairdinkums
The idea of a CEO making less so their employees can make more should be used as an example before saying you'd just pay more yourself.
I agree, but that goes against the capitalist system we live in. Every period must have increased profits or youre failing
MajMalfunction2
Yeah, but the Corp would take the extra cash to buy back stock and pay dividends rather than give the worker a raise.
CPatricoo
Yall might hate me for this but you can literally do that today.
I also support tipping
DesmondHawkins
Best we can do is 50 cent more AND they still need three jobs
TarrkertheNewt
Would be nice if that was the only issue with a federal wage increase x_x
zmurfus
Hey you can pay me 3,50 dollar ?
luxter7
Damn hippie!! I want my cheap heart disease with a super size diabetes please w/o paying extra for service.
gizmomelb
like anyone would be tipping for 'service' in a fast food restaurant
Chiefkeef8
More than just your fries. EVERYTHING goes up in price.
mouseasw
News flash asshole, the prices have been going up the whole time!
Called inflation. Moron
Hows the inflation crisis treating you asshole?
Taishosama
how do i upvote 1000 times?
drwarp
True capitalism with fake internet points instead of money....
Paoloc0mments
If you become a ceo, your opinion will be worth 1000x standard upvote.
iheartcheese
Shouldn’t be eating fast food on a regular basis anyways.
IsolatedAsshole
If you look up quickly you catch a glimpse of the point flying over your head!
RatchetnClank
What does that have to do with anything.
A $.50 increase on each item won’t be a lot, if you don’t eat it regularly.
way to miss the point, gotdam!
Oh I didn’t realize that person was the only one eating fast food.
crankyoldgeezer
Actually I think I saw a report saying it would add under 2.5 cents to most menu items.
Applecrack
Companies dont see it that way. They raise the price disproportionally to the increase of their cost to keep margins high.
DLOBREWSKY
You're forgetting to add the additional multiplier to keep the ceo at 350x the average worker
WeeHuaHua
Yeah, we must be fair to the poor rich CEOs/s
AyrA
Money go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr https://cable.ayra.ch/bezos
Christ
StephenDaniels
Cause and effect in that situation isn't clear. Its conceivable that a pay increase could result in more revenue.
Astral134
Imagine if a happy person was making them fries.
LiquidSodium
Well buddy i got news for you, thats literally possible without a single item gaining in price
True, but trying to convince capitalist ceos to give up even 1% of their income is a tough ask
RandomInternetAsshole
It’d be pretty fucking funny to watch them preside over a national strike of all their employees at the same time.
MrMattster
They themselves already have more money than they can realistically spend, but F you for expecting them to pay employees a fair wage
LeT tHe MaRkEt DeCiDe
Also, username does not check out
My username isnt ionlycommentwithsteveharvey
Is their username IAlwaysCommentWithSteveHarvey? No, you say? You feel like a fool, you say?
I see youve played this game before
pelaaja0
Maybe we should call it "trickle up capitalism" instead of socialism.
damogen
“Old fashioned capitalism”
68people
It's not even socialism! You've all gone mad!
Dionysus187
blue collar capitalism
TsubakiTragic
maybe you should just call it "guillotine" and roll that sucker out.
SomeDetroitGuy
You do realize the only people who call supply side economics "trickle down economics" are the people trying to demean it, right?
LordofSandvich
That's... basically what it is based on what people have described to me.
xKaraKx
Super capitalism!
StrangerRangerDanger
I would like to second super capitalism, I think we can use this term to trick ppl into doing/voting what is good for them/all of society.
zombiebatman
America first-ism
That might work on some people I know on facebook actually...
https://youtu.be/iMdx6Zn_9YY
ichbinunhombre
Considering most of what we want is Social Democracy, I do kinda think co-opting the word "Socialism" has been a pretty bad PR move.
ButIWanttobeanonymous
Socialism is what it is. A lot of the fear relating to socialist policies are directly related to the red scare, which arguably was>>>
<<
hateanyway
absolutely. same with "abolish police". why is the political left so bent on jerking themselves off instead of solving problems?
Only the extreme folks want to abolish the police. Most leftists want to defund the police and use the money for social services so there is
less for police to do.
yeah, even defund is bad branding. also, everyone I've ever heard use the term "abolish" meant the exact same thing as "defund"
BioGoji1989
I think even "Defund The Police" has backfired because the word "defund" sends the wrong message to the average American.
Most Americans associate "Defund" with removal of funds and so they think that defunding the police means taking away their resources.
Absolutely. The condescending infographics about what it really means, with the sneering "you should already know" vibe didn't help either.
Ayrich
Socialism and social programs are different. As is social Democracy. We need to send a better message. Socialism is a trigger word fm the rt
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
*cough...Texas
MikeReese9
Yes, but it’s not SOCIALISM socialism.
Pikachaan
The joke being that none of those are socialism.
Jubetsu
Used to like imgur when it was more about funny pictures and less about one-sided propaganda
UncomfortableAnswers
What have the Romans ever done for us?
aface62
I like how the Army Man doesn't even have to say anything. The military is socialism in it's purest form.
Treblaine
That's still not socialism, that's welfare. But they've called welfare "socialism" for so long that now neither mean anything.
Munchman347
The 'Social' in S.S. doesn't stand for 'Socialism', per se. It was self funded until Reagan stole Billions from it, now it's Trillions...
rangermcfadden
RideTheStimutacs
I like how the green helmet guy isn't saying anything, he's just like "AAARRGGGH"
LutraLazuli
Sums up my dad
blainetog
Oh man, I WISH these chuckleheads were asking for their vaccines!
anarchoFeline
tbf the gop voters are the most vaccine skeptical group in the country so they aren't really demanding the vaccine
xflaxen1
This tops the stupidest and most inaccurate thing I have ever seen in imgur. Good thing I don't get my news from memes.
MaddogDelphi1997
Jake Angeli is the guy on the far right. I believe he's getting free room and board along with organic meals.
MaddogDelphi1997
Correction: his real name is Jacob Chansley but people call him Jake Angeli. Don't ask me why.
YourIceCreamMan
I though MAGA types were Anti-Vax, Anti-Farm Subsidy, Anti Debt (checks)? And BTW Workers have PAID into SS to get their right to checks.
ahernandez
It honestly kills me on the inside that those that hate socialism benefit from it most
Hotord
And Medicare, and police, and fire department.
thisisprocrastination
Police and fire department are not examples of socialism in any way, shape or form. Except maybe thought police and "reeducation" camps.
Hotord
cyborganism
I really, really, REALLY want to stop seeing images and illustrations of that QAnon shaman idiot. Quit giving him all the fame.
datphone777365
Infamy*
twsx
Conservatives are not hindered by logic. Which isn't surprising considering you have to be somewhat of an idiot to be one in the first place
KurtfromLaQuinta
I've been paying into Social Security for almost 50 years now. I wouldn't call that socialism.
leroy666
You don't understand how socialism works, do ya.
nonCanadianGoose
VraedenHughes
Whenever I talk with someone who hates socialism, I simply ask them to define it, then watch their heads spin when they don't know.
nonCanadianGoose
Marx made poignant issues with capitalism, but didn’t outline any structure for socialism which led it wide open to despots to exploit an >
nonCanadianGoose
>already abused population. Since that how it debuted, it’s hard to separate the 2. No one thinks about prosperity when they see a swastika>
nonCanadianGoose
>Mao and Stalin horribly misappropriated the term
Speedmetal05
Education. It all comes down to education.
freckledkink
I know a lot of people who are very educated who are this stupid. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, literal rocket scientists...I don't understand
freckledkink
How people can be so educated and so stupid. They're all over the country.
katecakez
Perhaps they have considered all sides of the argument, and made a well-reasoned decision that they support one side and not the other?
koboshi
I pay twice as much for food now so that people with kids could afford not to work at all and live off my taxes.
koboshi
Our government gives money for each child family has, some get so much they don’t feel the need to work. Food has never been so expensive.
koboshi
And since food becomes more and more expensive they demand more money from government.
1wholurks
All of those make sense except for social security. You pay SS taxes and receive a benefit based upon what you pay in. Not socialist...1/2
1wholurks
2/2. Public schools, the post office, amtrack and many many more beloved government subsidized institutions are democratic socialist.
oravavaara
I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's fundamentally different. I pay taxes for roads, I pay (different) taxes for SS.
1wholurks
The amount of taxes I pay for say my state roads is not directly proportional to how often I use them while SS benefits are proportional 1/2
1wholurks
2/2 to how much I pay in. SS is more of an investment than an socialist entitlement.
Seminole4ever
Social Security benefits, in general, if received more than 5 years, exceed the taxes that anyone pays in over their working career. For
oravavaara
Libertarians would say that everyone should save for their own retirement, independently.
fpro
trump supporters/republicans/conservatives are very stupid people. they think it's a virtue to be stupid, like some kind of badge of honor
kootrell
Broad statements like this are super frustrating and counter-productive.
fpro
why frustrating? it's the truth. if they weren't stupid people then we would have not had the last 4 years and an out of control pandemic
Problemwoodchuck
Anti-intellectualism has been a staple of the GOP for 20 years. It runs so deep today that they refuse to acknowledge any issue as complex
KommissarLyus
20? Try 50+ years. Possibly longer.
Moljnir
Ignorance is strength.
Moljnir
War is peace.
Moljnir
Freedom is slavery.
uptaco
Death is eternal life.
Jokerthehulk
The funny thing is that they think the same way of liberals. I saw one guy that said 99% of liberals are dumber then his dog.
ActualLazyEnhancedXenos
Yup this is a common dehumanizing tactic. The weak, timid, ignorant liberals who are elitists in terrorist cells vying for world domination.
ActualLazyEnhancedXenos
There's also the fact plenty of these people are so warped that the idea of helping the less fortunate/minorities at any cost is dumb
Distractedlurker
Wait, it’s only a common dehumanizing tactic when conservatives do it, but true if liberals do it?
Jokerthehulk
Well yeah. The problem is the other people obviously.
ActualLazyEnhancedXenos
I used an example that was relevant to the original post, I made no assertions that it's a uniquely conservative act, or excused liberalism.
Distractedlurker
Not even when you referenced “weak timid liberals”? That seems pretty specific to me.
icommentwithsteveharvey
Elsuave
You are not going to pay more, some mogul won't buy a 150 mill House or 500 mil superyatch
Fairdinkums
The idea of a CEO making less so their employees can make more should be used as an example before saying you'd just pay more yourself.
icommentwithsteveharvey
I agree, but that goes against the capitalist system we live in. Every period must have increased profits or youre failing
MajMalfunction2
Yeah, but the Corp would take the extra cash to buy back stock and pay dividends rather than give the worker a raise.
CPatricoo
Yall might hate me for this but you can literally do that today.
icommentwithsteveharvey
I also support tipping
DesmondHawkins
Best we can do is 50 cent more AND they still need three jobs
TarrkertheNewt
Would be nice if that was the only issue with a federal wage increase x_x
zmurfus
Hey you can pay me 3,50 dollar ?
luxter7
Damn hippie!! I want my cheap heart disease with a super size diabetes please w/o paying extra for service.
gizmomelb
like anyone would be tipping for 'service' in a fast food restaurant
Chiefkeef8
More than just your fries. EVERYTHING goes up in price.
mouseasw
News flash asshole, the prices have been going up the whole time!
Chiefkeef8
Called inflation. Moron
Chiefkeef8
Hows the inflation crisis treating you asshole?
icommentwithsteveharvey
Taishosama
how do i upvote 1000 times?
drwarp
True capitalism with fake internet points instead of money....
Paoloc0mments
If you become a ceo, your opinion will be worth 1000x standard upvote.
iheartcheese
Shouldn’t be eating fast food on a regular basis anyways.
IsolatedAsshole
If you look up quickly you catch a glimpse of the point flying over your head!
RatchetnClank
What does that have to do with anything.
iheartcheese
A $.50 increase on each item won’t be a lot, if you don’t eat it regularly.
datphone777365
RatchetnClank
Oh I didn’t realize that person was the only one eating fast food.
crankyoldgeezer
Actually I think I saw a report saying it would add under 2.5 cents to most menu items.
Applecrack
Companies dont see it that way. They raise the price disproportionally to the increase of their cost to keep margins high.
DLOBREWSKY
You're forgetting to add the additional multiplier to keep the ceo at 350x the average worker
WeeHuaHua
Yeah, we must be fair to the poor rich CEOs/s
AyrA
Money go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr https://cable.ayra.ch/bezos
WeeHuaHua
Christ
StephenDaniels
Cause and effect in that situation isn't clear. Its conceivable that a pay increase could result in more revenue.
Astral134
Imagine if a happy person was making them fries.
LiquidSodium
Well buddy i got news for you, thats literally possible without a single item gaining in price
icommentwithsteveharvey
True, but trying to convince capitalist ceos to give up even 1% of their income is a tough ask
RandomInternetAsshole
It’d be pretty fucking funny to watch them preside over a national strike of all their employees at the same time.
MrMattster
They themselves already have more money than they can realistically spend, but F you for expecting them to pay employees a fair wage
icommentwithsteveharvey
LeT tHe MaRkEt DeCiDe
MrMattster
Also, username does not check out
icommentwithsteveharvey
My username isnt ionlycommentwithsteveharvey
mouseasw
Is their username IAlwaysCommentWithSteveHarvey? No, you say? You feel like a fool, you say?
icommentwithsteveharvey
I see youve played this game before
pelaaja0
Maybe we should call it "trickle up capitalism" instead of socialism.
damogen
“Old fashioned capitalism”
68people
It's not even socialism! You've all gone mad!
Dionysus187
blue collar capitalism
TsubakiTragic
maybe you should just call it "guillotine" and roll that sucker out.
SomeDetroitGuy
You do realize the only people who call supply side economics "trickle down economics" are the people trying to demean it, right?
LordofSandvich
That's... basically what it is based on what people have described to me.
xKaraKx
Super capitalism!
StrangerRangerDanger
I would like to second super capitalism, I think we can use this term to trick ppl into doing/voting what is good for them/all of society.
zombiebatman
America first-ism
drwarp
That might work on some people I know on facebook actually...
xKaraKx
https://youtu.be/iMdx6Zn_9YY
ichbinunhombre
Considering most of what we want is Social Democracy, I do kinda think co-opting the word "Socialism" has been a pretty bad PR move.
ButIWanttobeanonymous
Socialism is what it is. A lot of the fear relating to socialist policies are directly related to the red scare, which arguably was>>>
ButIWanttobeanonymous
<<
hateanyway
absolutely. same with "abolish police". why is the political left so bent on jerking themselves off instead of solving problems?
SomeDetroitGuy
Only the extreme folks want to abolish the police. Most leftists want to defund the police and use the money for social services so there is
SomeDetroitGuy
less for police to do.
hateanyway
yeah, even defund is bad branding. also, everyone I've ever heard use the term "abolish" meant the exact same thing as "defund"
BioGoji1989
I think even "Defund The Police" has backfired because the word "defund" sends the wrong message to the average American.
BioGoji1989
Most Americans associate "Defund" with removal of funds and so they think that defunding the police means taking away their resources.
ichbinunhombre
Absolutely. The condescending infographics about what it really means, with the sneering "you should already know" vibe didn't help either.