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Don't ignore domestic violence against men.
Oct 16, 2016 5:46 PM
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TurtBurglar
Why the fuck does this site make all this shit up about feminism!?!? Feminism doesn't ignore violence against men. EVER. It's the opposite!
bullviagra
My girlfriend hits me when we're in very heated arguments. It doesn't hurt at all but it does break my heart.
redwineweekends
These stats are patently false. DV in any form is reprehensible, but using false numbers to pit m/f victims against each other helps no one.
blacknightbam
DinoHunter56
I'm glad that you enjoyed my post :)
YouWillNotLikeThis
Strange how this gives out a vibe of not really caring about domestic abuse?
haIreallysigneduphere
Kicked my then g/f out of my house the same night she punched me in the face when she came home drunk. Sheriffs' Deputy picked her up.
haIreallysigneduphere
Currently waiting for her domestic abuse case to be heard.
Panda4hire
Domestic violence against both sexes is rampant.
Mimsey
But people really only seem to care about that when male victims are brought up.
Eisbrecher
I would argue the opposite. In online forums people care about both, but for many victimized men, society turns a blind eye. Women have 1/2
Eisbrecher
more resources available to them, generally. It's terrible for both, but as far as activism goes, female victims have frequent support.
MassiveFartAttack
A friend of mine had his girl attack him with a hammer. He pushed her to the ground and ran to the neighbors. He went to jail that night.
theyar
They ALWAYS arrest the man, no matter what. Cops readily admit that.
washismycopilot
. . . because sexism. Sexism is the problem with all of this. Women aren't nurturing, men aren't lesser for being abused. We are all shit.
Mimsey
No, this was feminism. Feminists created and pushed this policy and they still do to this very day.
itsnotjustcalifornia
Fake feminists pushed this policy
PandolfsParade
If we could all stop being abusive assholes to each other, that would be great.
RepostFromLastWeek
You know what is the best way to avoid IPV? Live alone.
OwenCauseICantThinkOfAName
Sadly this problem will always happen. Best thing is to help people be able to identify abusive behaviour and provide support where needed.
BananaForScaIe
Ex threw a glass at my head (she was drunk, I hadn't done anything). Girls ALWAYS asked "well what did you do to deserve it".
fancysandwiches
I'm a girl. I think that's completely inappropriate behaviour. I'm really glad she's your ex. That shit is unacceptable.
nanachan69
I totally agree with you. It makes me sick seeing stuff like this. I don't know how someone could do something like that. Drunk or not
DVSBSTrD
But then we wouldn't be able to blame feminists for all our problems.
01010111011001010110110001100011011011110110110101100101
That doesn't even apply to half of this post.
DVSBSTrD
Trust me, people will find a way to blame feminists for anything.
godskook
Can I just blame them for the stupid things they think? Such as the idea that history is just men setting up a tyranny over women.
01010111011001010110110001100011011011110110110101100101
that's also a largely blanketed statement.
Jonsse
Those timeframes sound made up.
hornygayman
I had a boyfriend that beat the living shit out of me. And not in a fun way.
wanderingangus
A lot of you are going to use this to downplay sexual assault against women... I'm very sorry for that.
Mimsey
A: This is about physical assault, not sexual. B: By your logic you're now downplaying assault against men. C: That makes you sexist.
wanderingangus
Good job
RandomStranger55
Anti feminist circlejerk.
Synthetics66
My ex wife would hit me all the time, trying to entice me to strike back. I struck back once: with divorce papers and restraining order.
elppapple
BLAM!
Darkspire
AND HIS FIST. Just kidding buddy. You did well. Good job not falling for that crap.
Synthetics66
She gave me 5 stitches to the back of the head once. And the Base MP's still arrested me because the "guy is usually at fault."
Darkspire
Sadly, that is not an uncommon story. I knew a guy whose wife attacked him. He gently moved her away from the door to leave and still
Darkspire
got arrested when she said he hit her. Dude was an oak tree, and she didn't have a mark on her.
ThePirateCatsRule
How about "don't ignore domestic violence!" It doesn't matter who it's against, it is wrong.
vernel90
Don't ruin a very good & important message with a strawman fallacy involving "all feminists are many haters ".
AlwaysandEventuallyHannah
Yeah, you have a point, but also maybe don't let an important message be silenced by focusing on the method by which it was delivered?
vernel90
*man
hardytardigrade
Domestic violence against men is a terrible problem with unique aspects. It needs to be better addressed. Is attacking feminists necessary?
Mimsey
They are abusers and bullies trying to enforce ideological control on all subjects of gender and sex. Including this one. [5]
Mimsey
They won't allow any dialog that doesn't pay homage to their outdated, uninformed, sexist theories of domestic violence. [6]
Mimsey
Feminists claim women hardly are even able to harm men in our patriarchal society. That men are "90%" of abusers. [2]
hardytardigrade
"Feminists"? Or one specific person or discrete group? If the latter, whom?
treadwords
Yes, b/c they expect 2 B gratified 4 speaking out about it without doing so + without any campaigning. Can't blame people 4 noticing this.
hardytardigrade
Who is "they"? Are you talking about specific people who did specific things?
treadwords
Yes, feminists.
hardytardigrade
That's not what "yes" means.
treadwords
Yes as in I'm talking about feminists. Happy? Now get to your point.
Luscus
Well the point of this post was to attack feminists, not really address the DM issue. So to the OP, yes.
hardytardigrade
Oh yeah! I forgot
Mimsey
Wow, you dropped your veneer of impartiality faster than I have ever seen before. You were just waiting for the circlejerk, huh?
hardytardigrade
That's a funny thing for you to say, since you are so clearly here to attack feminism.
Mimsey
Every time we try to talk about this issue, who's flinging shit? Read the comments. You see it's the feminists. [3]
hardytardigrade
So "every time", it's "the feminists", and your proof is "read the comments"? Do you understand that you are generalizing and hyperbolizing?
Mimsey
Feminists make it necessary because they prevent us from addressing the problem. They deny it's even that big a problem. [1]
hardytardigrade
Feminists aren't a monolithic group, and they don't all think and do the same things.
Mimsey
So yes. We DO have to deal with the feminists before we can address these problems. Because feminists are a layer of the problem. [4]
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
My ex wife was horrible. I was raised to never hit a woman. Before I had enough and left one night, she elbowed me in the face when I (1)
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
tried to get past her. She bit my arm, then slammed the door on my foot trying to get away, got on my back, and choked me. I STILL (2)
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
didn't fight back. I came back after that. I couldn't leave my two boys. What drew the line was when arguing one day. Well screaming (3)
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
more like it. It was the only way to get a point across over her. My oldest son was 3 at the time, curlded into a ball and began yelling (4)
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
He couldn't take our screaming anymore. I broke down crying, kissed and hugged my kids and walked out. She died years later and that (5)
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
was the best thing she ever did as a parent for my two boys.
unicornbbq
It's not a fucking competition
aleister94
Exactly real feminists actually address this but somehow it still turned into a men vs feminism bull ploppy
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
As per normal imgur neckbeard butthurt.
Yanov
No, but the fact is that significant proportion of the population believes that domestic abuse against men simply isn't a thing.
RandoCalrizzian
https://nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3977-researcher-what-hap-3977
mbus
Seriously. Why can't we just have the message "don't ignore violence against men" WITHOUT the added "women don't have it so bad" bullshit.
Solomon13
Perhaps I misread, but where did it say that?
mbus
The whole "feminists will tell you ___ but won't tell you ___" is conspiratorial bullshit, and they're intentionally comparing female (1/2)
mbus
to male statistics here in a way that is not useful but designed to compare the relative plight of males and females, as a competition (2/2)
uglyshirts
Nope. Just an unacknowledged 2-way street.
glaug
It's not a two way street -- abuse against men exists independently of abuse against women. There's no need for comparison
Mimsey
Then why the fuck is this comment only ever pushed up the comments when the issues of boys and men are the topic? What are arguing against?
EconMajorHere
Arguing against feminists who apparently no women have ever met yet somehow as a guy, I've come across quite a few.
MargoMcKnew
The comment might be referencing how 14.6 seconds, which is hardly different from 15 seconds, is highlighted as if to go one better.
Mimsey
It's not. Because EVERY time male issues are brought up on imgur, some twit has to post this. No matter how or why.
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Your valid message is lost with the silly derision of feminists.
Mimsey
This was the message for 20 years. The MRM started in the 80s. They didn't respond to feminists at all until recently. [1]
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
You're making far too many assumptions and baseless claims.
Mimsey
I made concrete assertions. Tell me what you disagree with instead of making a vague rejection.
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
You used many pronouns without first establishing to whom you were referring and made incorrect assumptions about what I believe/care about.
Mimsey
Now that they respond to feminist abuse you suddenly care, but not about the message, only that they retaliate against their attackers. [3]
Mimsey
20 years of peace and begging for respectful dialog with feminists and you never cared about the message. [2]
Mimsey
Do you see? You're playing the role of the neighbor that ignores a wife beating her husband then gets furious when the husband hits back.[4]
IronicUsername
How the fuck is he playing that role by criticizing OP for using male victims as props to take a swing at feminism?
Mimsey
Feminism made this discussion space hostile, and yet twits like the one we're commenting under here blast the OP for mentioning feminism.
Mimsey
This is the same deal. The misconceptions in gender issues is 100% feminism, so the OP's image is a response to feminism.
Mimsey
Over those 20 years they get attacked CONSTANTLY by the feminists who chased them out of the movement. So their platform shifts.
Mimsey
It's a lose-lose. Either you ignore feminism and it bullies you, or you respond to it like OP did and you get accused of attacking it.
Mimsey
You can go back to the 70s and 80s and see MRM founders like Farrell and Pizzey in Feminist circles, try to address men's issues.
Mimsey
Almost immediately upon retaliating against feminist abuse for the first time in 20 years, people are vilifying the MRM.
Mimsey
Slowly they go from being egalitarian to just men's rights activists because they've been pushed to that end of the spectrum by feminists.
Mimsey
They sat and ignored the movement for 20 years, unaware of it, until the MOMENT it stopped taking abuse from the movement that spawned it.
Mimsey
They get chased out for trying to help men, and split off to became egalitarians. They try to help both sexes for 20 years.
Mimsey
And you can look this up: You can go find the first anti-MRM article and see that it weeks after the first MRM site goes big.
Mimsey
Did I stutter? I literally laid it out word for word. No one cared about 20 years of MRM activism until they responded to feminist abuse.
Mimsey
With the advent of the internet a new generation of MRAs crops up and doesn't take the insults and slander from feminists.
toofrunktoduck
url doesn't exist. Anyone got a citation?
SirBadassMcKillington
http://ncadv.org/learn-more/statistics
QDizzley
Thank you, anyone who puts citation is a friend.
washismycopilot
Funny the citation doesn't match the numbers stated here.
LuxanBoots
I think it moved: http://sce.osu.edu/get-info/sexual-violence-education/fast-facts/
Idonotkillpeoplethatismyleastfavoritethingtodo
Why is it always men vs women though? Why not just say men get hit. We should do something about that.
scorks
THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Bless you, BonnanaKing.
rokushotheblackcat
Because other camps attempt to one up each other constantly with "well my/this/that group has it worse, so we need more attention and power"
Solomon13
That's the nature of intersectionality. Everyone is scrambling to be recognised as the most oppressed, because it gives them moral authority
illadelphin006
It would definitely gain a more positive response in raising awareness. This is where MRA's go wrong and generates defensiveness and hate
Idonotkillpeoplethatismyleastfavoritethingtodo
I've met a lot of self proclaimed MRAs. They complain a lot but I have never met one who actually ever did anything for men's rights.
Irreal
Because people automatical assume that it's other men who hit them.
Rozilla
I know too many women who are proud to slap men if they're annoyed. I've never heard a man brag about hitting a woman. Dif societal norms.
playdoplaya
The post insinuates that women harm men as much as men harm women, which is not true.
Mimsey
Most nonreciprocal intimate partner violence is female on male. Reciprocal violence is, iirc, 60% male on female.
Smegahorn
I think it's just trying to say that men and women both experience domestic violence at almost the same level of frequency
Mimsey
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17395835
Riyakou
You're right. Women harm men far much more. It's just not considered abuse.
Sirspaghetti
I think the general message "don't be a cunt" applies
Legitlegitness
Did you just assume the genitalia I act like?
InsanityReborn
Yes, I did, and I don't care, you're human before anything else. And 'cunt' is shorter than 'bastard', man.
Legitlegitness
In print and syllables, you are correct
FH2actual
We just need big billboards all over the planet that read " Don't be a cunt! "
kawwmoi
I offered to make a sign saying that and putting it up in the employee dining room where I work. My boss requested I not for some reason.
FH2actual
I haven't a clue to be honest. Sounds like a right good idea!
FatherMcLaser
One of the golden rules I live by is "don't stick your dick in someone's salad"
bitenmein
Says my girlfriend.
GoofedAllOverYourFace
I think that might be sexist
Sirspaghetti
Hey man don't be a dick
frankreynoldsthefrogkid
Don't be a cunt, dick, and/or malfunctioning object. Does that cover the bases?
TheFineBros
Nah the point is, feminists only care about bad stuff that happen to women,at lower rates than to men.
butterfingerist
Yep, add in all unreported ones and all the prison rape, it happens more than women. Research it
TheFineBros
I don't know what you are trying to type
butterfingerist
Do a reaction vid of male rape statistics
TheFineBros
?
Sittingaroundwitholdpeople
Nobody discounts domestic violence. Feminist don't endorse violence against men either.
itsybitsyspider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50 This says otherwise.
Sittingaroundwitholdpeople
You're using a fake prank channel as evidence? Ethan hecking Bradberry on Cocktv? Okay
SomewhatOxygenated
I do. Am I no longer a feminist?
Sittingaroundwitholdpeople
If you believe that then you never were.
Mimsey
Then why do they actively protest talks on the subject? They blockade the doors and pull the fire alarms and call the speakers sexist.
washismycopilot
Why are MRM guys a bunch of chauvinists? They aren't and that probably wasn't the main goal. Same problem.
Mimsey
Chauvinists? Like they condescend to women? Are you confusing them with Republicans? Most MRAs are not Traditionalists.
washismycopilot
This is the problem with it being a movement and not an organization. Members of the movement all have their own ideas but aren't a whole.
Mimsey
That's a bad excuse. Because if it were true we'd have SOME feminist rallies and protests on men's issues. But we don't.
Mimsey
When your movement is based on central concepts like patriarchy theory and rape culture and privilege, you have consistency.
Sittingaroundwitholdpeople
That isn't actual feminism.
treadwords
It's the tail that wags the dog. If saner feminists want to improve their image then they need 2 sort out the crazies.
Mimsey
When they did it to Warren Farrell in Ontario it was a literal fucking Women's Studies class there at the behest of their professor.
Solomon13
Then perhaps you should tell these non-actual feminists to stop giving you a bad name. Just a thought.
maximilianfragglebottom
also 1 in 4 gay men experience partner violence
Saustino
Haha but the media always tells us how wonderful gay people are. How dare you speak bad about them!
javjav
And don't get me started on the numbers for lesbian couples. Bitches go ham, dude. It's not even funny.
AppleFoster
Women can be vicious. Women's prisons are nuts too.
YankeeBomb4
This is true... They beat their ass.
JupitersWitch
The statistics above were actually based on male homosexual relationships and not heterosexual. This has been debunked before.
frosty147
It's worse for lesbians.
wabitgirl
That's such a goddamn fucked statistic. Yeah, sure, flamboyant people annoy the shit out of me, but fuck. We need to fix that.
Gibbles821
4 in 4 gay men are also gay. It blew my mind
redshadow1000
*they **penis
AppleFoster
It took me a second to realize what you were correcting.
AsAGayFellow
Thank you! Dealt with it myself.
tryin2figureitout
Gay men have some of the lowest DV rates.
Afroman8675
Literally had a sitdown yesterday with my buddy about how uncool I am with him and his boyfriend beating the hell from eachother. Even once
tryin2figureitout
Gay men have some of the lowest DV rates.
RaisinZetaJones
As do a staggering 44% of lesbians.
tryin2figureitout
Gay men have some of the lowest DV rates.
rrh1188
What about gay swans?
d0o0o0d
What's the number for lesbians?
drhook
69
RaisinZetaJones
44%, making lesbians the highest experiences of IPV out of all hetero, homo, and trans relationships (bi falls into het/homo depending)
ShirokazeYuusha
So you're saying gay men can be fucking assholes too?
Saxxon92
Well, technically...
maximilianfragglebottom
the point is, don't hit people, especially people who like you
Ssssssssssss
Except people trying to hurt you. You should totally hit them.
hotdudecurator
One comedian said it best...it's like keying your own car...
TurtleBrawler
Haha, because you ride it.
fjms
Jimmy Carr! (and others I'm sure have made that joke)
hotdudecurator
Haha yep, he's the one I was talking about! I love 8 out of 10 cats!
Actualdeadpool
Dick slaps don't count. Do they?
hornygayman
Is that true?
RaRaPotato
statistically gay men are fucking arseholes.
hornygayman
That's what I said
nottrollbotnot
Probably about as true as "1 in 4 women have been raped". I'm not downplaying anybody but statistics =/= fact when context is ignored.
Aelinsaar
Maybe... do a bit of research before dismissing or believing in the validity of a stat...
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Aelinsaar
No, that's cynicism. Skepticism weighs evidence against a claim.
screamingwinemaker
Or don't use social media to rely on facts?
TraitorousTrump3
Wait, why do you need context for that?
JeremytheBearemy
Since everyone is ignoring you, I'll answer. That statistic comes from a study done on a college campus where female students were asked 1/2
JeremytheBearemy
Down to things like "have you ever been uncomfortable with a sexual advance" in their stats. Oh and it's 1/4 have been sexually assaulted.
JeremytheBearemy
Questions relating to sexual assault. IIRC the study used a pretty liberal definition of sexual assault, basically including everything 2/3
AsAGayFellow
I've experienced it, people are assholes. Doesn't matter if they are gay or straight. Abuse comes in all forms.
Mimsey
Isn't it like 1-in-2 gay women as well? And MMF trios are less violent than MFF trios. I always found that correlation interesting.
RaisinZetaJones
It's nearly 1-in-2; it's 44% lifetime experience rates in exclusively F/F same-sex relationships.
GenerallyKenobi
MMA trios are especially violent
AllYourPeppermintAreBelongToMe
I chuckled. Take my upvote.
AllYourPeppermintAreBelongToMe
It makes sense to me when one considers that lesbians have the highest rates of domestic violence...
javjav
And don't get me started on the numbers for lesbian couples. They go brutal, dude. It's not even funny.
HeyItsHerrTrigger
coming to blows you say? well i never.
MakerOfBadJokes
With that attitude you'll never be popular with the boys...
thatgirl2214
Feminist here...I don't ignore any type of domestic violence, neither does any feminist I know.
cousteau
"Feminists", not feminists.
Riyakou
I myself am a feminist, and I honestly don't know too many feminists who actually show support for male victims of abuse.
slysquashy
Look up the "Duluth Model" for how law enforcement are to respond to domestic abuse calls. Put in place by feminists, and very woman-biased
somenerandom
The term Feminist, like many others,has been warped beyond recognition.You're not who this post is referring to, and kudos for that
CleverUsernameNotTaken
Welcome to the imgur circlejerk, which refuses to acknowledge reasonable people and categorizes groups of people by their extremes.
PlatanusO
Not Imgur, the internet, if not people in general. Also, I find the quoted statistic pretty hard to believe.
ThatFellow
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37640353 here's the handiwork of the feminists which apparently don't exist.
BookerLegit
1.) They just gave an anecdotal experience. 2.) What's the problem?
ThatFellow
What's the problem with framing all DV as a male-on-female problem to elementary schoolers? Gee, dude, I don't know.
BookerLegit
Nowhere does it say the program teaches that. A detractor accuses them of it, but it is not founded anywhere in the article.
BookerLegit
To the contrary, toxic masculinity - something the program is fighting - is a big part of the reason DV against men is overlooked.
billthecrusher
#NotAll #CurrentYear I'll believe this when male shelters aren't protested by feminists
djethex
Could you provide links to these events?
Solomon13
Well here's the first one I found. It's just a wikipage for Erin Pizzey XD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
thatgirl2214
Many thanks for the link. Giving it a quick read, the people protesting we militants. Not feminists. All feminists I know would love men to
thatgirl2214
Have a place like this :D
Mimsey
Then you don't know any feminists. A single cursory search of the literature proves feminists don't care about female abuse or male victims.
Ezralite
Ah, skirting along the edges of No True Scotsman today, are we, circlejerk? Excellent.
thatgirl2214
Sources? Because tumblr doesn't count.
Mimsey
If feminists care about female abusers, why do they virtually never acknowledge they even exist? Or if they do, pretend they don't matter?[8
Mimsey
Take your pick. Do you want me to show you videos of feminists blockading and protesting a talk on boys failing in schools? [1]
Mimsey
Homelessness, unfair prison sentencing, school and uni success, genital integrity. Where are the feminist protests for these? [6]
Mimsey
Do you want me to show you the feminists who created the wage gap myth? False rape stats for colleges? Obscured male rape victims? [3]
Mimsey
If feminists care about men, why did they chase the woman who founded the world's first women's refuge from her home for admitting men? [7]
Mimsey
Do you want me to show you feminist groups who opposed legislation to reform child custody and alimony laws to make them gender neutral? [2]
Mimsey
What I think would be better would be for me to ask YOU to show me feminists rallying or protesting on mens issues. [5]
Mimsey
Do I need to go so deep that I show you the Duluth Model, Critical Theory, and the Frankfurt School? [4]
thatgirl2214
3, by having men recognised as humans paves the way for equality in the work place. The wage gap is real, and women are marginalised if they
thatgirl2214
5 families are important. There needs to be more male centers, and more awareness for mental health. I don't think mental health should have
thatgirl2214
4 want kids, I have anecdotal evidence of this too. I think mothers and father should have the same amount of time off to welcome the baby.
thatgirl2214
6 a gender attached to it. I'm suffering from depression and anxiety, and am on a 10 week waiting list for therapy...there needs to be more
thatgirl2214
2, and forgive me if this isn't in the correct order...I want to see more fathers being recognised, more stay at home dads, more custody.
thatgirl2214
Many thanks for your comments. 1 I work in a school, I am very concerned about why white working class boys are failing.
thatgirl2214
7 money pumped into that sector. I would be willing to talk to you about my beliefs some more. I also think there should be a bigger
thatgirl2214
(Ironically) character count :)
fartboxtonguepunch
yeah, my wife hits me when she's on her period but gets livid when i raise my voice to try and be heard
Kazizganthi
Username joke? I'm slow...
Welley
My ex used to grab me by the neck and slightly strangle me when the argument didn't go her way.
thesejarsareforfartsonly
That's not a woman thing that's a psychotic person thing
fluffstermcmuffin
If she hasn't already, she should see a doctor. She could have something like PMDD, which is treatable.
ExerNemesis
Preach
FerricGuy
how dare you raise your voice to her. you monster.
Arachnophobicloser
Hehe iron man
CrocodileDunphy
Hope you're joking. If not, she's got to go
thwartedagain
We ask men not to think with their dick- it's perfectly acceptable for you to ask us not to think with our cunt
ThermoNuke
Been there done that. Get the fuck out bro.
michoobles
That's awful! I hope you can seek therapy with her, or get away from her. That shit isn't okay.
taintedllama
Well that's what happens when all you ever do is make the same joke about doing anal instead since she's on her period
fartboxtonguepunch
when the red rivers flowin, take the dirt road home
elppapple
Periods should, at worst, induce some junk food eating and maybe a little nonsensical crying. Abuse is abuse and you deserve better.
lemonyflavoredjunimo
As a woman with a hormone imbalance, I occasionally have barely controlled outbursts of rage near period time. I hate it.
michoobles
Have you sought help? I don't know personally how hard it is, but I've seen the results of unmanaged borderline and wish better things for u
EccentricNimoy
PMDD?
Squirrelprophecies
High dosage b complex. Try it.
ralph2sam
username under review
DickCheneytheDefilerBanned
My wife punches me all the time. Over petty shit. For instance I call her sister the hot sister. Bam! Punched in the face
IntergalacticCinematic
Dick Cheney, you son of a bitch!
FernandoRumdebum
Having a bloody cunt is no excuse to act like 1
insertpunnynicknamehere
FernandoRumdebum
(Not gonna lie, I've never been as proud of a comment in my LIFE)
insertpunnynicknamehere
fartboxtonguepunch
goddamn thats a hell of a comment. +1
overlythinky
Can I ask why you aren't recording her abuse and taking it to the police? It's your safety and welfare at stake.
xxslipstichxx
Prolly cause men don't get abused, he doesn't want to get laughed at, and he doesn't want to look weak. I want to hug him now :-(
NCPBullet
Enjoy your divorce
Zokathra
You say it like it's a bad thing for him.
NCPBullet
No i told him to Enjoy it. Whats going on now is a bad thing
UsuallyComments
Divorce is a horrible process. Especially if you have kids. But if he doesnt have kids, when the divorce ends, he will be lovin it.
LoudAngryJerk
divorce may be hard to go through, but it isn't a bad thing. it's two mature adults taking the steps necessary to make themselves happy in>
LoudAngryJerk
>a relationship which clearly isn't working.
zanderclause
I've always thought that if a woman hits you it shouldn't be surprising to her that you hit her back.
shooter45
She starts it you finish it.
DVSBSTrD
If ANYone hits you, you have the right to knock them the fuck out.
CherryEmpress
I mean, no you don't. Not legally. At all. If you can extract yourself from the situation, do that. Don't escalate.
Seppyno
The law varies, but in general, response with nonlethal force is not escalation, all have the right to protect themselves from bodily harm.
BasquePenguin
I always thought you had the right to defend yourself with reasonable force?
DVSBSTrD
It's not escalating if you end the fight.
CherryEmpress
Yes, it absolutely is.
IridescentLotus
Or you LEAVE. Because jail isn't fun
CheapBeerAndBadDecisions
Problem is 99% of the time the law will take her side
kawwmoi
The law, the neighbors, your family, your boss, 97% of the internet and if you happen to be famous the media as well.
hookerbot5000
yep. the law is exceptionally sexist, and yet there is no media coverage of the few protests fighting legal gender bias against men
Aelinsaar
All of the hands in that picture are female, but the sad fact is that a huge a majority of said violence is male-on-male.
Mimsey
No. Not a "huge majority". Not by a long shot.
Aelinsaar
By all means, cite away.
Fuzzynubz
majority? I think not. You're saying that there are more abusive gay male relationships than women abusing men in hetero relationships?
Aelinsaar
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=data+domestic+violence+male+
Fuzzynubz
Mhmm. Are you unaware of the diffence between percentages and raw numbers? Super simple stuff. I think that's where you screwed up.
Aelinsaar
By all means, show me.
Fuzzynubz
Show you what? You're the one making the ridiculous claim. There aren't enough gay couples vs straight for what you say to be true.
watsisface1
I see your point and agree, but feel like I have to say the bottom right hand could be a pudgy man's
theyar
Did you even read it?
Aelinsaar
Yes. What's your point?
diablosword
"by his FEMALE partner."
Aelinsaar
Did you somehow take "majority" to mean "Only ever"? If not, then again... your point?
xetrazprime
Yes, YOU said majority. Completely unsupported by data. THIS poster says female partners. Meaning 100% of the violence they were refering to
PeacefulWarfare
None of the violence is women on women though
Aelinsaar
In this case, by definition not. In general though? http://www.pandys.org/articles/lesbiandomesticviolence.html
itsnotjustcalifornia
As someone who used to be in a physically abusive lesbian relationship, I assure you that is false.
PeacefulWarfare
Solo is a perfect example.
thesejarsareforfartsonly
Yea but instead of helping the abused men injure just uses thinks like this to hate all women.
Mimsey
The SECOND they started retaliating, after 20 years of ignoring the feminist attacks, suddenly "the MRM is just women-haters!" [2]
Mimsey
The first MRAs were active feminists. They left the movement when they were vilified for trying to address men's issues. [3]
Mimsey
The internet brought in a new, younger audience. That wasn't willing to take the abuse. Who tried to argue with the feminists. [5]
Mimsey
And their arguments just got recharacterized as attacks, even though they were usually counter arguments. [6]
Mimsey
TO THIS DAY you cannot find hardly any feminists willing to have a dialog on gender issues. They all do what you do: Slander and hide. [7]
IronicUsername
Maybe you can't. But you're not looking, are you?
Mimsey
I am literally all over these fucking comments sections looking and 90+% of the time they run and hide.
thesejarsareforfartsonly
Buddy you need to take a breath. I'm not taking about valid people supporting men's rights. I'm talking about 12-15 year olds who are mad at
thesejarsareforfartsonly
The world and do not appropriately support the movement for acknowledging these issues. They make valid supporters look like assholes and
thesejarsareforfartsonly
Don't help the cause in any way. They make the good people look bad is my point
Mimsey
You know nothing. For TWENTY YEARS the MRM focused exclusively on issues like these while feminists blasted them. [1]
Mimsey
And for 20 years they tried to have a dialog and got nothing but abuse in return. Then the internet happened. [4]
thesejarsareforfartsonly
These men deserve better representation and safety than what those "advocates" give them.
Mimsey
Because spoiler: All of the leaders of the MRM used to be active feminists. They all got chased out after they tried to help men.
Mimsey
Where's Pizzey now? Oh, you can find her on A Voice for Men. Along with Warren Farrell, former chair of the National Organization for Women.
Aelinsaar
Exactly, it's hypocritical and pathetic, and it acts against the problems which exist, which now get associated with "MRA's".
Mimsey
Then step the fuck up. I dare you. See how people treat you the moment you try to stand for the issues of men and boys.
thesejarsareforfartsonly
That was exactly my point. People have perverted the movement so now if you do try to stand up and make a difference you are categorized as
thesejarsareforfartsonly
One of them and aren't taken seriously. I'm not a feminist, I just believe in rights for living things because that's the decent thing to do
Mimsey
Erin Pizzey opened the world's first women's refuge. She got terrorized out of her home by feminists after she tried to accept battered men.
eion85
That doesn't fit the Mens Rights Advocate's narrative though.
Mimsey
Because it's not true. Women are the violent party something like 40% of the time in intimate partner violence.
heXonyou
Well a friend of mine once went to jail after a fight...(she is now married to him)
eion85
[citation needed]
Mimsey
Why bother? Every time I go to the trouble of digging citations up for you you just downvote and run from it.
eion85
I havent down voted you once.
Aelinsaar
Exactly, which is sad, because we deserve advocacy too, and all we have are neckbeards with mommy issues. :/
Mimsey
Who used to be feminists, but were kicked out the movement for caring about male issues. Feminists won't address mens issues so they do.
Aelinsaar
Right... kicked out... by...? You know what, don't bother, this is a rabbit hole I have no desire to go down with you.
eion85
I find that actual feminists (Not the misandrists) totally get it and want to help end domestic violence, period.
Aelinsaar
Absolutely, same with most people under any version of "human rights'" banner.
Mimsey
Holy god damn. I can deliver you hours of video of feminists PROTESTING mens and boys issues. You are insane.
eion85
Did you miss the part where I talked about there being folks calling themselves feminists who aren't feminists?