Spanish Cops got Catal-owned

Oct 4, 2017 11:11 AM

DaBamfS

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Brilliant

Thats some naruto shit

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Nobody expects the Spanish imposition!

8 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 4

farmers right now

8 years ago | Likes 947 Dislikes 7

"I broke the window again. Don't tell dad!"

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But fragmentation and segmentation are no solutions for any of the problems we have nowadays, sigh..

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

who says that? hmm, what do you provide for truth and facts for your supposition

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

"Truth was the invention of a liar."

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

"Hundreds"

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¡Me rompieron el reloj!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This situation is gonna blow up in an ugly way soon and people will die :/

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Somebody's seen Dark Knight Rises one too many times.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The police immediately attempted to reenter Catalonia via tunnel, only to find the tunnel was in fact painted onto the face of a mountain.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fake news. Police did not intervene at all yesterday. It wasn't because they were all in the border. It's just that it's not their work.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 5

nice try

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Not many years ago the Cataloniens votes for staying with Spain. By a big margin.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Like India and Kashmi region (albeit not the remotely the richest part of India). Just better plans and execution.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Well, and unlike Kashmir, Catalonia isn't under heavy military presence for the last few decades

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I can't find the source for this story after searching. Is there an article of some kind?

8 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 0

.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

https://www.facebook.com/thomasmasters/posts/10156267748280730 But it's fake. A nice story tho. Police didn't intervine on Oct. 3th.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dooty McDooterson

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

all i've been able to find are reports that they're defending polling stations. nothing about some grand strategy.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not really the same thing that the post is saying -- but a good read

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah, that's what i'm trying to say- I can't find any source about this post specifically, just that they showed up to defend things.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The Barcelona city shuffle

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

During the three glorious days in Paris 1830 the people did this with French armies, blocking them with barricades

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fake

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Quite the shrewd subterfuge

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8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Finally found it

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's pretty far down the page. I'm surprised.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was surprised when I couldn't find it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Settlers of Catalan

8 years ago | Likes 134 Dislikes 2

I still have wood for sheep.

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Not going to lie. I laughed at this.

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v

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We have enough violent cops as it is in France, please take yours back.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

lol.......just lol

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Lol, the US laughs.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

but why?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This started cause of a referendum to break free from Spain, video footage is uploaded almost daily showing police brutality in Catalonia

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

oh my god, how awful.

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I'm Catalan and heard the story on Tuesday....found it hard to believe then and no news outlets have confirmed it..highly doubt it happened

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm stealing this meme for later. Thank you. Also as someone from spain I can tell you I'd heard from this if it happened, motherfuckers

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

have this conflict on TV fucking 24/7 like it's the most important shit in the world so I'd say this instance is probs made up bollocks.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Looks like this is made up. The image was likely taken from their "tractor protest" which cleared several blocked roads (source below).

8 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 1

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9io_hvNRC8 I don't speak spanish but the source confirms the N240 was blocked due to tractorprotest

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I cannot find anything however on #2-4.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 4

I was expecting the spanish inquisition. How stupid of me.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*sigh* take my filthy upvote you bundle of sticks...

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Bastardo!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Spanish police are cunts

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Why the downvotes? They are.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 18

No proof provided so dismissed equally as easily.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Because generalizations are stupid and obtuse ways of thinking?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Imgur is also full of cunts

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Whats the legal definition of rebellion?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Action taken against authority?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Going to go off the Collins British dictionary for this one: 1. "organized resistance or opposition to a government or other authority" 1/2

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2: "dissent from an accepted moral code or convention of behaviour, dress, etc" 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No-one expects the Spanish tractors!

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NOONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH AGRICULTURAL INSTITUTION!

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Well done, +1

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Comment of the month!

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No one expects the Catalan Insurrection!

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

Except for how everyone did.

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The Spanish Mahindras? The Spanish International-Harvesters? The Spanish John Deere? The Spanish New Holland? None of these work... :(

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Spanish Caterpillar? Nobody expects that.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Spanish tractadors

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

They were Catalan tractors, though.

8 years ago | Likes 216 Dislikes 14

Fuckin' Catalina wine tractors

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Exactly. No one expects the Spanish tractors.

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 3

I didn't expect this reference to be so controversial

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Still a part of Spain for now.

8 years ago | Likes 119 Dislikes 3

No one expects the currently Spanish, maybe Catalonian in the future Tractors!

8 years ago | Likes 76 Dislikes 0

Damn those currently Spanish but maybe Catalonian in the future tractors! Every damn time.

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

First laugh of the day! Please keep going!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good fuckn yard

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Front page meta woo

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Holy shit that was meta.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

ITS HAPPENING!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Someone had to bring this back.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Its the previous post on FP at the moment

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...screamed the stable boy

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Reference game on point - I'll allow extension of your homework for that

8 years ago | Likes 110 Dislikes 2

You have until Wednesday 11:59pm. It must be submitted to turnitin.com

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I thought this was one of those times when the image and the comments were erroneously mismatched

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You have till Wednesday at 11:59 AM

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I got that reference.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not sure if on the wave of this trend, or resurfacing

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are we really doing this?

8 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 2

This scene is pure fuckin gold.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I can hear that scream in my head. And her ridiculous laugh.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Its a thing now. Get on board or get yard (Im still learning how to use it)

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You bet your fucking yard we are.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I had a dream about him last night. Didn't know I needed this gif.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Hahahahah what's name Thad? Oil changesss hahahahks

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So, uh, why did his shoulder explode?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They did a lot of drugs... like... a lot

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

sooo many drugs. the gear was also set on fire.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

keep slayin boi

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Patrick Davidson

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I want what you're drinking

8 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 0

So I can forget what you said.

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Good yard.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Sent from my iPhone

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[Black bar]

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I’m going to start saying this to my wife.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What's up with this yard thing. I see it everywhere!

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

As of right now it's the post directly ahead of this one. Which is perfect because anyone who hits next on that post will see this one.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 57 Dislikes 1

Its from a post about a drunk student emailing a professor for an extension. He says 'Good Yard'

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

The Constitution that they agreed to for self government says Independence must come from a Catalan Parliament decision not a popular vote.

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 4

Did they agree to the Spanish constitution also?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Yes when they were granted autonomy.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Did you miss the part where the Parliament called for the vote to decide if they were going to secede or not?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Dang really? Is that a new Constitution or actually the foundation of the current government?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And the Catalan parliament is moving for independence on Monday. Which, given the reaction from Madrid, is going to be a pretty safe vote.

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Could the world get a new country? If so, im excited.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I don't think we should be, instead there should be peaceful merges. However, the Catalonians are braver than I so I should shut my mouth.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Hehe, im for peace too. More hobbies come out of peace. I like hobbies.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

A popular vote tells the parliament what the people want. It's not a binding vote but more a poll.

8 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 1

Definitely wasn't billed that way to the Catalan people, the rest of Spain, or the rest of the world for that matter.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 9

It wasn't billed that way to people that don't understand republics. Catalán is not a direct democracy AFAIK so they should know already

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

General population votes never do anything in republics except declare popular desire.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As I replied to someone else, I get that completely. I was just saying that all I ever heard said was "Spanish government cracking down 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It never is. Because in a democracy it efffectively is. A politian that defied a public vote like that would be slaughtered in the polls.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I completely agree and understand your point entirely; what I don't get is why I was downvoted for saying that.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Guess if I'm not expressly stating my support and understanding of the independence movement, people assume I'm speaking against it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Whoever planned that has played a lot of strategy games..and they said video games would never help you in life..pshhh

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Farming simulator

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I did this exact same move when I was fighting Gaul on the Iberian Peninsula in Rome: Total War... this EXACT FUCKING THING!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or perhaps, and hear me out, strategy games are based on techniques used in real life?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

This is a straight-up Settlers of Catan move

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Placing workers like a boss.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Settlers of Catalan

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

The police concersely must be into the GoT TV show where armies absolutely never use scouts.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Not to mention all that time in Farming Simulator 2018

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I think that if they own tractors in Catalonia, they aren't playing the simulator version.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Maybe they have gaming laptops in their tractors for those long days, farm while you farm, dawg

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Okay, these modded scenarios are starting to get *weird*."

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Command & Conquer and Age of Empires have prepared me. Ready the Ion Cannon.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Ion Cannon ready, Commander.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 8, 2017 12:45 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Power Low.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You must construct additional pylons!

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Unable to comply building in progress.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Maybe he's a grognard and plays strategy games on a board, not computer.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Or you know, books.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Or they read LotR. This is exactly what the hobbitses did in the Battle of Bywater!

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Filthy hobbitses

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After they read The ARt of War

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ARRRRRRRR!!!!!!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or has read the Art of War. Force a column from the main force and then cut it off.

8 years ago | Likes 470 Dislikes 2

or is using common sense

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Oh sure, leave it to the TS to suggest reading a book.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Books! I've read several on the subject~

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've done that in tons of strategy games and some MMO's like planetside, nothing worse than dragging a collumn into a minefield.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Only thing I liked about playing the Allies in RA2. Prism tanks. Move em into position and hide 'em, attack a force and lead them back

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Running support in milsims is always fun you feel like you save the day every time you do something then the real frontliners are just 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 thank god for the help but fuck you for cleaning this shit up we didn't need it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Attila the Hun would regularly retreat from battle to draw out parts of the enemy army in pursuit and then slaughter them.

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it works great against my teammates in mobas too.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Every nomadic horse people did that.

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*TRIGGGERRED!!!*****

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"He's saving guys, let's hunt him."

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

A lot of folk did that. Hell, even the Spartans managed it on foot. It tends to work very well, right up until the enemy holds formation.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Sun Tzu turned it into an art.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fun thing that battle I was thinking of happened before Sun Tzu is assumed to have been born. Lots of smart folk in history. Tzu gets a lot1

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

For the Mongols it pretty much always worked. They would shoot you full of arrows if you didn't pursue them.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It worked right up until it didn't. The Second Hungarian Invasion and the Egyptian Invasion it really backfired.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It worked against the Anglo Saxons too.

8 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 8, 2017 12:45 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I was referring to 1066, but ok.

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And russians :)

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Then behead them and let their blood be the mortar to hold their skulls together in the skull throne! PRAISE BE KHORNE!

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HERESY!

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!

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HERESY

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

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HERESY

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HERESY FOR THE HERESY GOD!

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The president of Catalonia had to pull a spy movie stunt so he could vote. While the helicopters followed his car, he went into a tunnel,

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switched cars, and made someone else drive the original one, so he could go vote without the cops attacking the electoral college.

8 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 1

The hell? Really? It was the Italian Job, not the Spanish Job

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

That shit never works in GTA

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That's because it's lazy Spanish cops, tget

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yeah, need a color change to fool them.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thats because the cops are less like "police" and more like angry hornets that won't stop trying to run into you.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I mean, the cops are programmed to hone in on your player character, not logical identifiers like the car you're driving.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*home in

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

What's going on here - part of the EU is trying to separate, and another part won't let them?

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No. Catalan is a semi autonomous part of Spain. They want to separate from Spain fully.

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Will Catalan be part of EU after the split?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who knows. At this point the split seems unlikely, or at least difficult to achieve. I expect the new state would have to join the EU...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They should move the EU out of state-level and down to province-level. European states come and go but provinces just get redistributed.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Basically there's two issues. Some of the originally poor parts of Europe are now some of the wealthiest parts thanks to EU subsidies 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

2/2 Now they think they can leave the country that supported them in getting all that money, both Bavaria and Catalan are so very similar

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

Spent it all on drugs and hookers, and when confronted with the facts and no more bigger slices of the pie from mama state, are throwing a 2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

P.S. the UK issues are kinda different and similar...but mostly it's historical issues in the UK. It seems in Europe you become wealthy 1st

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not an expert but I don't think Catalonia got rich from EU subsidies

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tantrum to keep the wealthy elites rich and the uneducated populace misdirected and busy. Let them go and starve, they'll come back. 3

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I'm not going to agree with ya @carmenandreavingagregonzalez . It's a matter of confidence in having enough money to control yourself.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And thinking you automatically will remain a member of the EU. But the rules are clear. The countries that they are part of currently are

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This. Catalonia has always been a bunch of poor uneducated farmers under the Kingdom of Aragon. They got a stupidly high amount of funding,1

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Has literally nothing to do with the EU.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Will Catalan be part of EU after the split?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They would definitely join the EU as well. But Catalan independence is highly unlikely.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If Catalan succeeds, will it affect the EU? Will Spain be a drain?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They will definitely join the EU as well. But Catalan independence is highly unlikely.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

this has nothing to do with EU. its spain's internal matter

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Not true. They broke several rights, detained politicians, beated up pacific voters, closed web sites... & refuse to change the constitution

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

DIdn't EU denounce the election though? That seems different from remaining distant and neutral.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The commission basically said "Spain's problem, we dgaf", Parliament said "erm maybe don't beat up civilians"

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Seems like Leaders on both sides being super irresponsible and Spanish cops made the situation MUCHWORSE with excessive force last week.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Now many Catalonians (and Spanish) who were against succession may feel different after Spanish cops brutally tried to prevent the vote.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

It wasn't excessive force FFS. You can't fight violence with flowers. Next on the news: water gets you wet.

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You're a cunt. There are plenty of ways to remove and arrest people who aren't fighting back that don't involve dragging them by their hair.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Excessive force. 400 injuries treated on hospital. Just 4 spent the night. 1 remains on hospital. Of more than 2.000.000 voters. 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

More are hurt each football day and no one bats a lash.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

That's less important than seeing police strike people with batons, who were just sitting down on staircases refusing to leave.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

To some people*** Images are hard to explain away.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Catalonia wants a democratic vote and independence from Spain. The vote is symbolic, but seceding is against the Spanish constitution.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Spain's response to the situation was to send in the National Police and beat Catalonia into submission by physically blocking the vote.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The police were literally raiding polling stations with rubber bullets and tear gas and ripping ballot boxes out of people's hands.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Whether they should have been asked to block the vote or not is anotehr thing.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To be fair, at the point where the police is asked to block a vote, there's not much else to do but throw in the tear gas and rubber bullets

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Catalonia is one of the richer parts of spain, also culturally different. Held an illegal (according to Spanish government) vote & "won" it.

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It was a court that ruled it to be unconstitutional. Voter turnout was about 42%, so not really representative.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Illegal according to the 1978 spanish constitution, written @ the end of the dictatorship by the regime government, which dont want to chnge

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

i dont fucking now how the rest of thw country dont get that. Fuck th kings and RAJOY!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not sure why you're linking me that...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Big problem with the vote is that since the government said it was illegal, most people not in favour of independence probably didnt vote

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

If you dont vote, you voice dont matter so now they've got themselves to blame.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Very true - Which is why it was such a shame things had to get violent at all. Now people who didn't support it might as a reaction.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Not really won it. AFAIK most catalonians would've voted to stay with Spain. How recent events changed their opinion I don't know.

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So yeah... Both sides were in the wrong. One side sent in rubber bullet armed police though, heh.

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Yep, a sad low point for a democracy, afaic.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Maybe their opinion changed when Spanish police came down and beat up people wanting to vote? Crazy thought, I know.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Afaik it always was about 50-50 on this matter. The actions of Madrid just fuelled the independence movement.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

NPR said it was about 55-45 in favor of aragon staying with castille (as it has been since 1469)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hence the "". This is exactly why a peaceful popular vote (no legal ramifications) would have been the better alternative.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

The voters didnt make it unpeaceful

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

Neither did the riot police armed with batons and rubber bullets, who forced people away by force to begin with.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

Fun fact: the preliminary results had a greater percentage of eligible voters vote for Catalan independence than there were for brexit

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Tbf, that's not a hard thing to archive..

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, but it's internationally accepted as a democratic mandate. I'm also happy if we stop accepting brexit as legitimate :P

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

42% turnout with 90% voting for independence according to the Catalan government.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

when there's a vote that's illegitimate, many in the opposition to the referendum don't vote because they don't want to give it legitimacy

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

It's turnout was large enough for it to be legitimate despite being illegal. Higher proportion of eligible voters than brexit for example.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I think there was about 70% of the public for separating from the rest of Spain

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

> 90% of people who voted. About 38% of eligible voters (brexit was 37.44% of eligible voters for comparison)

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Thank you! Stay safe!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Of the voting public. But most of the pro-Spain peeps stayed home because Spain said the vote was illegal.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Cant count your vote if you dont turn up. Most people didnt vote for Brexit, but its happening. Same with Trump

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

This. Only fucktards went voting. Normal and well-adjusted people stayed at home, not partaking on criminal actions.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

If most of them would have voted to stay with Spain then Spain wouldn't have tried to stop the vote.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It isn't that simple. Last time I was in catalonia the remain voters where in the majority, but the independence voters where way louder.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why didn't they turn out to vote then?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The the vote was 90% in favor of secession, the vote was also counted by the people who were in favor of secession in the first place.

8 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 2

Also only about 43% of the population voted.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Only 55% of Americans of voting age, vote during presidential elections.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I didn't even think it was nearly that I was thinking about half of that. I would say over 50 percent would be good.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's worth noting that more might have been counted if they wernt being beaten And alot the polling boxes were taken it mayve been over half

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It was deemed an illegal election before it happened. So if you were in favor of staying, you would not have been out at that vote anyways.

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Less than half the population votes I think.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 5, 2017 9:41 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Also if they went independent then Spain would block them joining the EU.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

The UK threatened that Scotland would be out of the EU if they went independent. Facepalm all round.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's... what I said.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 5, 2017 10:17 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

"intercreped" - Also there was a result. It still wasn't a legally binding referendum vote however, never was.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

No. Part of Spain wants to secede and become its own country. Spain won't let them, foreign countries say it is an internal matter.

8 years ago | Likes 194 Dislikes 2

Not sure much different would happen in US if one of the states actually tried to seceed. Treasonous to try I think.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

There are separation advocacy movements in California and Alaska. I don't think anyone has stopped laughing long enough to charge them 1/

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/ with treason though.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's not treason until the petition is denied. Then it's treason to try, though working on another petition wont be.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's probably because it's not treasonous to talk about it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah, that happened in the US too. We didn't let them go either.

8 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 4

Happened in the British Empire as well. You're welcome ;)

8 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

And we'd still own black people today of it weren't for you meddling kids.. And your dog too!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not really the same. Catalonia has its own culture and language.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 11

Not more than other regions in Spain

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

If y'all knew the South, y'all'd'nt've said they don't have their own language.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Im semi pro-independence from Spain, but this argument is getting quite annoying. Like if you were a special snowflake...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The whole "own culture and language" argument for nationalism and independence is getting kind of irrelevant in 2017.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To be fair, so does the South.

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 3

And then theirs California.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Y'all best believe it brotha

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It is a matter of Spanish 1978 fascist government's constitution VS the UNO chart of human rights. They voted against it in the first place!

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

You're on the wrong side of history this time bro

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 41

He didn't state an opinion?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sounds a lot like an opinion replying to... a statement of facts. I don't recall mentioning any personal opinions on the matter.

8 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

https://i.gyazo.com/6e0f4a2d7271f119ea1f8c3cbbd67763.png this is my opinion.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 18

Then we agree. What should have been a peaceful, political statement turned into unneeded violence.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

History has no sides

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Unlike the this table that I just turned! (ノ°Д°)ノ︵ ┻━┻

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

ಠ_ಠ Bob...put.the table.back!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'd say a part of the people of a part of Spain want to see it seperated.

8 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 2

Fair correction - Didn't expect thread to explode. Was just a quick TLDR within imgur character limits.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Nope. Earthquake imminent. Actual separation is coming.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 6

legitimated by who? not the government, not the people

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Hardly any government would ever legitimize the secession of a state from the nation.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0