Oct 4, 2017 11:11 AM
DaBamfS
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michaelwode512
Thats some naruto shit
CedarYurks
Nobody expects the Spanish imposition!
HorsefaceBeeguy
farmers right now
SexualPeanut
"I broke the window again. Don't tell dad!"
JustMud
Mooseheart
https://68.media.tumblr.com/8b3a5659b1e3a9ef589b8b330160a286/tumblr_mvgb5aXevm1qezn3fo1_400.gif
youmayalsolike
But fragmentation and segmentation are no solutions for any of the problems we have nowadays, sigh..
EarthAnimalArmy
who says that? hmm, what do you provide for truth and facts for your supposition
"Truth was the invention of a liar."
wowheylookdotcom
"Hundreds"
jsktrogdor
Bunsen
¡Me rompieron el reloj!
thatgreygentleman
This situation is gonna blow up in an ugly way soon and people will die :/
TheLimpinBiscuit
Somebody's seen Dark Knight Rises one too many times.
DukeOfWellingtone
sauce?
RookRafa
https://www.facebook.com/thomasmasters/posts/10156267748280730
GradiustheFox
The police immediately attempted to reenter Catalonia via tunnel, only to find the tunnel was in fact painted onto the face of a mountain.
Fake news. Police did not intervene at all yesterday. It wasn't because they were all in the border. It's just that it's not their work.
nice try
Redshirt101
Not many years ago the Cataloniens votes for staying with Spain. By a big margin.
ThatGuyWhoIsSkepticalOfEverything
Like India and Kashmi region (albeit not the remotely the richest part of India). Just better plans and execution.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Well, and unlike Kashmir, Catalonia isn't under heavy military presence for the last few decades
tildesarecool
I can't find the source for this story after searching. Is there an article of some kind?
8BITBRAT
.
https://www.facebook.com/thomasmasters/posts/10156267748280730 But it's fake. A nice story tho. Police didn't intervine on Oct. 3th.
BourbonAndBeethoven
Dooty McDooterson
BatLadyRielle
all i've been able to find are reports that they're defending polling stations. nothing about some grand strategy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/29/tractors-roll-onto-streets-barcelona-referendum-battle-lines/
Padawin
Not really the same thing that the post is saying -- but a good read
Yeah, that's what i'm trying to say- I can't find any source about this post specifically, just that they showed up to defend things.
MammaryExhibitNumberOne
The Barcelona city shuffle
Atalung
During the three glorious days in Paris 1830 the people did this with French armies, blocking them with barricades
JeyViking
Fake
Eksul
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9io_hvNRC8
guti41
Quite the shrewd subterfuge
RichardTheHuman
Win1forthegifer
Finally found it
SpiderDetective
It's pretty far down the page. I'm surprised.
I was surprised when I couldn't find it.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
Settlers of Catalan
Jsmythe
I still have wood for sheep.
ImGoingToEatAllYourApples
danlei
Not going to lie. I laughed at this.
softballguy
v
masterswasntworthit
Tuoni
We have enough violent cops as it is in France, please take yours back.
lol.......just lol
RdizzyC
Lol, the US laughs.
jdecker45
but why?
This started cause of a referendum to break free from Spain, video footage is uploaded almost daily showing police brutality in Catalonia
oh my god, how awful.
PleaseMindTheGap
retrohellix
chickitycheckyourself
I'm Catalan and heard the story on Tuesday....found it hard to believe then and no news outlets have confirmed it..highly doubt it happened
RealFuckinNito
I'm stealing this meme for later. Thank you. Also as someone from spain I can tell you I'd heard from this if it happened, motherfuckers
have this conflict on TV fucking 24/7 like it's the most important shit in the world so I'd say this instance is probs made up bollocks.
Tonberryc
Looks like this is made up. The image was likely taken from their "tractor protest" which cleared several blocked roads (source below).
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-04/catalonia-referendum-spains-king-speaks/9013306
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9io_hvNRC8 I don't speak spanish but the source confirms the N240 was blocked due to tractorprotest
I cannot find anything however on #2-4.
PhilipJFryy
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
scoobydoobydo
I was expecting the spanish inquisition. How stupid of me.
*sigh* take my filthy upvote you bundle of sticks...
boshbashbish
Bastardo!
ICallPeopleCunts
Spanish police are cunts
StatmanIbrahimovic
schleimkeim
Why the downvotes? They are.
drame
No proof provided so dismissed equally as easily.
SelfPleasureRobot
Because generalizations are stupid and obtuse ways of thinking?
Imgur is also full of cunts
houseofnifty
Whats the legal definition of rebellion?
doesnotexistanymoredeprecatedaccountthanksforthememories
Action taken against authority?
SkippedOver
Going to go off the Collins British dictionary for this one: 1. "organized resistance or opposition to a government or other authority" 1/2
2: "dissent from an accepted moral code or convention of behaviour, dress, etc" 2/2
wwilberforce
No-one expects the Spanish tractors!
Grudgebearingmidget
NOONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH AGRICULTURAL INSTITUTION!
muleFUEL
5D85DA
Well done, +1
TardisHatstand
lawiseman
Comment of the month!
Pinaplewapi
Solborn
No one expects the Catalan Insurrection!
AgainstMethod
Except for how everyone did.
Name0fUser
Thalarctos
ImgursLibertarian
The Spanish Mahindras? The Spanish International-Harvesters? The Spanish John Deere? The Spanish New Holland? None of these work... :(
RandomIsotope
Spanish Caterpillar? Nobody expects that.
WoolyBullyDoesNotRhymeWithSully
Spanish tractadors
StopLookingAtMyUsernameSWAAN
They were Catalan tractors, though.
MossyMoose
Fuckin' Catalina wine tractors
ItsARental
Exactly. No one expects the Spanish tractors.
ExplainThisJoke
I didn't expect this reference to be so controversial
Jameszombob
Still a part of Spain for now.
DarkMaster98
No one expects the currently Spanish, maybe Catalonian in the future Tractors!
JThomson777
Damn those currently Spanish but maybe Catalonian in the future tractors! Every damn time.
bjuttejuppe
First laugh of the day! Please keep going!
wagnus
Good fuckn yard
T4ggl3
Front page meta woo
hamberglar
Holy shit that was meta.
TheKredibleHulk
ITS HAPPENING!
junglebuns
Someone had to bring this back.
Azjsy
Its the previous post on FP at the moment
guywhobrowsesstuff
...screamed the stable boy
PeePeeFrictionPleasure
Reference game on point - I'll allow extension of your homework for that
InternetLawyer
You have until Wednesday 11:59pm. It must be submitted to turnitin.com
GlgrdsklechhhExaltedSchlurch
thecabagethatjeremyclarksoneatsinS21EO3ofTopGear
MsAlderaan
abitskeptical
I thought this was one of those times when the image and the comments were erroneously mismatched
XiyadJaffa
You have till Wednesday at 11:59 AM
amysteriousgoose
I got that reference.
YeahBu0y
Not sure if on the wave of this trend, or resurfacing
yourspacelawyer
Are we really doing this?
DrChimRichulds
This scene is pure fuckin gold.
AstronautChicken
I can hear that scream in my head. And her ridiculous laugh.
linusTheTiger
Its a thing now. Get on board or get yard (Im still learning how to use it)
EveryonesCousin
You bet your fucking yard we are.
I had a dream about him last night. Didn't know I needed this gif.
ArentWetheWaggies
Hahahahah what's name Thad? Oil changesss hahahahks
Susurus
So, uh, why did his shoulder explode?
waterbucketsandsparetowels
They did a lot of drugs... like... a lot
MrPetitePenii
sooo many drugs. the gear was also set on fire.
MajorMeme
keep slayin boi
lordofhouselurker
Patrick Davidson
Ijustliketotalkshit
I want what you're drinking
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
So I can forget what you said.
GoodFknYard
Good yard.
iScreenshotGifsAndUseThemToComment
Sent from my iPhone
KenyanNinja
ItsVikk
[Black bar]
FlyGuyRN
I’m going to start saying this to my wife.
PossiblyJonSnow
What's up with this yard thing. I see it everywhere!
As of right now it's the post directly ahead of this one. Which is perfect because anyone who hits next on that post will see this one.
ohdamb
ziludoSmasher
Its from a post about a drunk student emailing a professor for an extension. He says 'Good Yard'
36roentgen
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AU2Ln65I_a8/hqdefault.jpg
mainfrym
The Constitution that they agreed to for self government says Independence must come from a Catalan Parliament decision not a popular vote.
VodkaReindeer
Did they agree to the Spanish constitution also?
Yes when they were granted autonomy.
Skawomplious
Did you miss the part where the Parliament called for the vote to decide if they were going to secede or not?
Qualtagh
Dang really? Is that a new Constitution or actually the foundation of the current government?
pintDMG
And the Catalan parliament is moving for independence on Monday. Which, given the reaction from Madrid, is going to be a pretty safe vote.
TheBlueMuppet
Could the world get a new country? If so, im excited.
I don't think we should be, instead there should be peaceful merges. However, the Catalonians are braver than I so I should shut my mouth.
Hehe, im for peace too. More hobbies come out of peace. I like hobbies.
kraeftig
A popular vote tells the parliament what the people want. It's not a binding vote but more a poll.
Desomega
Definitely wasn't billed that way to the Catalan people, the rest of Spain, or the rest of the world for that matter.
It wasn't billed that way to people that don't understand republics. Catalán is not a direct democracy AFAIK so they should know already
General population votes never do anything in republics except declare popular desire.
As I replied to someone else, I get that completely. I was just saying that all I ever heard said was "Spanish government cracking down 1/2
p75369
It never is. Because in a democracy it efffectively is. A politian that defied a public vote like that would be slaughtered in the polls.
I completely agree and understand your point entirely; what I don't get is why I was downvoted for saying that.
Guess if I'm not expressly stating my support and understanding of the independence movement, people assume I'm speaking against it.
Kaezz
Whoever planned that has played a lot of strategy games..and they said video games would never help you in life..pshhh
OliverClothesoff70
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/SimFarm_Coverart.png/220px-SimFarm_Coverart.png
frenchfries013
Farming simulator
RaynWisp
I did this exact same move when I was fighting Gaul on the Iberian Peninsula in Rome: Total War... this EXACT FUCKING THING!
unscot
Or perhaps, and hear me out, strategy games are based on techniques used in real life?
SlowboatToShortbus
This is a straight-up Settlers of Catan move
CommieGold
Placing workers like a boss.
Bumiller
Slander7
The police concersely must be into the GoT TV show where armies absolutely never use scouts.
Lamech777
Not to mention all that time in Farming Simulator 2018
sunyudai
I think that if they own tractors in Catalonia, they aren't playing the simulator version.
Maybe they have gaming laptops in their tractors for those long days, farm while you farm, dawg
CheshireCad
"Okay, these modded scenarios are starting to get *weird*."
Hybris51129
Command & Conquer and Age of Empires have prepared me. Ready the Ion Cannon.
KamSolastor
Ion Cannon ready, Commander.
https://imgur.com/HxhNp6Q
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Power Low.
IFavoriteRecipesToTryLater
You must construct additional pylons!
Unable to comply building in progress.
GNiko
Maybe he's a grognard and plays strategy games on a board, not computer.
Kiopho
Or you know, books.
brrrackobama
Or they read LotR. This is exactly what the hobbitses did in the Battle of Bywater!
whyareallusernamestakenalready
Filthy hobbitses
sundaymondayhippyday
After they read The ARt of War
ARRRRRRRR!!!!!!
PudgyPinkiePie
Or has read the Art of War. Force a column from the main force and then cut it off.
NEEDZMOAR
or is using common sense
oreogolem
Oh sure, leave it to the TS to suggest reading a book.
Books! I've read several on the subject~
BaronVonJoeJoe
I've done that in tons of strategy games and some MMO's like planetside, nothing worse than dragging a collumn into a minefield.
Only thing I liked about playing the Allies in RA2. Prism tanks. Move em into position and hide 'em, attack a force and lead them back
Running support in milsims is always fun you feel like you save the day every time you do something then the real frontliners are just 1/2
2/2 thank god for the help but fuck you for cleaning this shit up we didn't need it.
Snooj
Attila the Hun would regularly retreat from battle to draw out parts of the enemy army in pursuit and then slaughter them.
nesurame
it works great against my teammates in mobas too.
KingZullu
Every nomadic horse people did that.
Supernerdje
*TRIGGGERRED!!!*****
KRAZExF35
"He's saving guys, let's hunt him."
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
A lot of folk did that. Hell, even the Spartans managed it on foot. It tends to work very well, right up until the enemy holds formation.
Sun Tzu turned it into an art.
Fun thing that battle I was thinking of happened before Sun Tzu is assumed to have been born. Lots of smart folk in history. Tzu gets a lot1
Arthemax
For the Mongols it pretty much always worked. They would shoot you full of arrows if you didn't pursue them.
It worked right up until it didn't. The Second Hungarian Invasion and the Egyptian Invasion it really backfired.
CanadianFurr
It worked against the Anglo Saxons too.
I was referring to 1066, but ok.
janskis
And russians :)
Byzantines.
TrijezniMujo
Then behead them and let their blood be the mortar to hold their skulls together in the skull throne! PRAISE BE KHORNE!
BeardedViking
Twitchanov
allegedlynerdy
HERESY!
Marcster01
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
HERESY
Mrginger128
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
HERESY FOR THE HERESY GOD!
Cassian
The president of Catalonia had to pull a spy movie stunt so he could vote. While the helicopters followed his car, he went into a tunnel,
switched cars, and made someone else drive the original one, so he could go vote without the cops attacking the electoral college.
The hell? Really? It was the Italian Job, not the Spanish Job
Cresset
That shit never works in GTA
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
That's because it's lazy Spanish cops, tget
MichaelCBennett
yeah, need a color change to fool them.
HitlersArtCritic
Thats because the cops are less like "police" and more like angry hornets that won't stop trying to run into you.
Ivain
I mean, the cops are programmed to hone in on your player character, not logical identifiers like the car you're driving.
*home in
Gilgamech
What's going on here - part of the EU is trying to separate, and another part won't let them?
MixMasterPants
No. Catalan is a semi autonomous part of Spain. They want to separate from Spain fully.
Will Catalan be part of EU after the split?
Who knows. At this point the split seems unlikely, or at least difficult to achieve. I expect the new state would have to join the EU...
They should move the EU out of state-level and down to province-level. European states come and go but provinces just get redistributed.
justlittleoldme2020
Basically there's two issues. Some of the originally poor parts of Europe are now some of the wealthiest parts thanks to EU subsidies 1/2
2/2 Now they think they can leave the country that supported them in getting all that money, both Bavaria and Catalan are so very similar
DenverCoderIX
Spent it all on drugs and hookers, and when confronted with the facts and no more bigger slices of the pie from mama state, are throwing a 2
P.S. the UK issues are kinda different and similar...but mostly it's historical issues in the UK. It seems in Europe you become wealthy 1st
andyonetime
Not an expert but I don't think Catalonia got rich from EU subsidies
Tantrum to keep the wealthy elites rich and the uneducated populace misdirected and busy. Let them go and starve, they'll come back. 3
I'm not going to agree with ya @carmenandreavingagregonzalez . It's a matter of confidence in having enough money to control yourself.
And thinking you automatically will remain a member of the EU. But the rules are clear. The countries that they are part of currently are
This. Catalonia has always been a bunch of poor uneducated farmers under the Kingdom of Aragon. They got a stupidly high amount of funding,1
AskingTheRealQuestions
Has literally nothing to do with the EU.
They would definitely join the EU as well. But Catalan independence is highly unlikely.
If Catalan succeeds, will it affect the EU? Will Spain be a drain?
They will definitely join the EU as well. But Catalan independence is highly unlikely.
shreddedking
this has nothing to do with EU. its spain's internal matter
j02di
Not true. They broke several rights, detained politicians, beated up pacific voters, closed web sites... & refuse to change the constitution
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
DIdn't EU denounce the election though? That seems different from remaining distant and neutral.
SanguineKnave
The commission basically said "Spain's problem, we dgaf", Parliament said "erm maybe don't beat up civilians"
corneliusgansevoort
Seems like Leaders on both sides being super irresponsible and Spanish cops made the situation MUCHWORSE with excessive force last week.
Now many Catalonians (and Spanish) who were against succession may feel different after Spanish cops brutally tried to prevent the vote.
It wasn't excessive force FFS. You can't fight violence with flowers. Next on the news: water gets you wet.
You're a cunt. There are plenty of ways to remove and arrest people who aren't fighting back that don't involve dragging them by their hair.
borraya
Excessive force. 400 injuries treated on hospital. Just 4 spent the night. 1 remains on hospital. Of more than 2.000.000 voters. 1/2
More are hurt each football day and no one bats a lash.
Moonhoof
That's less important than seeing police strike people with batons, who were just sitting down on staircases refusing to leave.
To some people*** Images are hard to explain away.
ReallyGoodBee
Catalonia wants a democratic vote and independence from Spain. The vote is symbolic, but seceding is against the Spanish constitution.
Spain's response to the situation was to send in the National Police and beat Catalonia into submission by physically blocking the vote.
The police were literally raiding polling stations with rubber bullets and tear gas and ripping ballot boxes out of people's hands.
tzap
Whether they should have been asked to block the vote or not is anotehr thing.
To be fair, at the point where the police is asked to block a vote, there's not much else to do but throw in the tear gas and rubber bullets
Catalonia is one of the richer parts of spain, also culturally different. Held an illegal (according to Spanish government) vote & "won" it.
Pelikanmutationsgesang
It was a court that ruled it to be unconstitutional. Voter turnout was about 42%, so not really representative.
Illegal according to the 1978 spanish constitution, written @ the end of the dictatorship by the regime government, which dont want to chnge
Swaisdrais
i dont fucking now how the rest of thw country dont get that. Fuck th kings and RAJOY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjoHOSFBgt8
Not sure why you're linking me that...
crazyfaceII
Big problem with the vote is that since the government said it was illegal, most people not in favour of independence probably didnt vote
BrutaldeLuxe
If you dont vote, you voice dont matter so now they've got themselves to blame.
Very true - Which is why it was such a shame things had to get violent at all. Now people who didn't support it might as a reaction.
16745
Not really won it. AFAIK most catalonians would've voted to stay with Spain. How recent events changed their opinion I don't know.
So yeah... Both sides were in the wrong. One side sent in rubber bullet armed police though, heh.
Yep, a sad low point for a democracy, afaic.
Maybe their opinion changed when Spanish police came down and beat up people wanting to vote? Crazy thought, I know.
Subtilico
Afaik it always was about 50-50 on this matter. The actions of Madrid just fuelled the independence movement.
elfenix
NPR said it was about 55-45 in favor of aragon staying with castille (as it has been since 1469)
Hence the "". This is exactly why a peaceful popular vote (no legal ramifications) would have been the better alternative.
BalfMalark
The voters didnt make it unpeaceful
Neither did the riot police armed with batons and rubber bullets, who forced people away by force to begin with.
Fun fact: the preliminary results had a greater percentage of eligible voters vote for Catalan independence than there were for brexit
Tbf, that's not a hard thing to archive..
No, but it's internationally accepted as a democratic mandate. I'm also happy if we stop accepting brexit as legitimate :P
charlie2979
42% turnout with 90% voting for independence according to the Catalan government.
when there's a vote that's illegitimate, many in the opposition to the referendum don't vote because they don't want to give it legitimacy
It's turnout was large enough for it to be legitimate despite being illegal. Higher proportion of eligible voters than brexit for example.
I think there was about 70% of the public for separating from the rest of Spain
> 90% of people who voted. About 38% of eligible voters (brexit was 37.44% of eligible voters for comparison)
Thank you! Stay safe!
LoudBirb
Of the voting public. But most of the pro-Spain peeps stayed home because Spain said the vote was illegal.
Cant count your vote if you dont turn up. Most people didnt vote for Brexit, but its happening. Same with Trump
This. Only fucktards went voting. Normal and well-adjusted people stayed at home, not partaking on criminal actions.
Genini
If most of them would have voted to stay with Spain then Spain wouldn't have tried to stop the vote.
It isn't that simple. Last time I was in catalonia the remain voters where in the majority, but the independence voters where way louder.
Why didn't they turn out to vote then?
P0kEy
The the vote was 90% in favor of secession, the vote was also counted by the people who were in favor of secession in the first place.
Havak
Also only about 43% of the population voted.
nfPle4c3hI
Only 55% of Americans of voting age, vote during presidential elections.
I didn't even think it was nearly that I was thinking about half of that. I would say over 50 percent would be good.
ScreamedTheStableBoy
It's worth noting that more might have been counted if they wernt being beaten And alot the polling boxes were taken it mayve been over half
LordSlickRick
It was deemed an illegal election before it happened. So if you were in favor of staying, you would not have been out at that vote anyways.
Less than half the population votes I think.
RolloDumbassi
Also if they went independent then Spain would block them joining the EU.
ClrFM
The UK threatened that Scotland would be out of the EU if they went independent. Facepalm all round.
That's... what I said.
"intercreped" - Also there was a result. It still wasn't a legally binding referendum vote however, never was.
No. Part of Spain wants to secede and become its own country. Spain won't let them, foreign countries say it is an internal matter.
CavendishBandana
Not sure much different would happen in US if one of the states actually tried to seceed. Treasonous to try I think.
DrKriegersClone
There are separation advocacy movements in California and Alaska. I don't think anyone has stopped laughing long enough to charge them 1/
2/ with treason though.
It's not treason until the petition is denied. Then it's treason to try, though working on another petition wont be.
LokiKingOfJotunheim
That's probably because it's not treasonous to talk about it.
AwkwardKeming
Yeah, that happened in the US too. We didn't let them go either.
Happened in the British Empire as well. You're welcome ;)
BeanieBro
And we'd still own black people today of it weren't for you meddling kids.. And your dog too!
TheMerryScandinavian
Not really the same. Catalonia has its own culture and language.
Damlik
Not more than other regions in Spain
If y'all knew the South, y'all'd'nt've said they don't have their own language.
Im semi pro-independence from Spain, but this argument is getting quite annoying. Like if you were a special snowflake...
The whole "own culture and language" argument for nationalism and independence is getting kind of irrelevant in 2017.
GearHead96
To be fair, so does the South.
And then theirs California.
924Carrera
Y'all best believe it brotha
It is a matter of Spanish 1978 fascist government's constitution VS the UNO chart of human rights. They voted against it in the first place!
blackagar
You're on the wrong side of history this time bro
Sparky6277
He didn't state an opinion?
Sounds a lot like an opinion replying to... a statement of facts. I don't recall mentioning any personal opinions on the matter.
https://i.gyazo.com/6e0f4a2d7271f119ea1f8c3cbbd67763.png this is my opinion.
Then we agree. What should have been a peaceful, political statement turned into unneeded violence.
KNDBS
History has no sides
Unlike the this table that I just turned! (ノ°Д°)ノ︵ ┻━┻
BatBruce
ಠ_ಠ Bob...put.the table.back!
IamNotAshamed
I'd say a part of the people of a part of Spain want to see it seperated.
Fair correction - Didn't expect thread to explode. Was just a quick TLDR within imgur character limits.
LegacyMuse
Nope. Earthquake imminent. Actual separation is coming.
legitimated by who? not the government, not the people
BlueGodBalmung
Hardly any government would ever legitimize the secession of a state from the nation.
michaelwode512
Thats some naruto shit
CedarYurks
Nobody expects the Spanish imposition!
HorsefaceBeeguy
SexualPeanut
"I broke the window again. Don't tell dad!"
JustMud
Mooseheart
https://68.media.tumblr.com/8b3a5659b1e3a9ef589b8b330160a286/tumblr_mvgb5aXevm1qezn3fo1_400.gif
youmayalsolike
But fragmentation and segmentation are no solutions for any of the problems we have nowadays, sigh..
EarthAnimalArmy
who says that? hmm, what do you provide for truth and facts for your supposition
youmayalsolike
"Truth was the invention of a liar."
wowheylookdotcom
"Hundreds"
jsktrogdor
Bunsen
¡Me rompieron el reloj!
thatgreygentleman
This situation is gonna blow up in an ugly way soon and people will die :/
TheLimpinBiscuit
Somebody's seen Dark Knight Rises one too many times.
DukeOfWellingtone
sauce?
RookRafa
https://www.facebook.com/thomasmasters/posts/10156267748280730
GradiustheFox
The police immediately attempted to reenter Catalonia via tunnel, only to find the tunnel was in fact painted onto the face of a mountain.
RookRafa
Fake news. Police did not intervene at all yesterday. It wasn't because they were all in the border. It's just that it's not their work.
EarthAnimalArmy
nice try
Redshirt101
Not many years ago the Cataloniens votes for staying with Spain. By a big margin.
ThatGuyWhoIsSkepticalOfEverything
Like India and Kashmi region (albeit not the remotely the richest part of India). Just better plans and execution.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Well, and unlike Kashmir, Catalonia isn't under heavy military presence for the last few decades
tildesarecool
I can't find the source for this story after searching. Is there an article of some kind?
8BITBRAT
.
RookRafa
https://www.facebook.com/thomasmasters/posts/10156267748280730 But it's fake. A nice story tho. Police didn't intervine on Oct. 3th.
BourbonAndBeethoven
Dooty McDooterson
BatLadyRielle
all i've been able to find are reports that they're defending polling stations. nothing about some grand strategy.
BatLadyRielle
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/29/tractors-roll-onto-streets-barcelona-referendum-battle-lines/
Padawin
Not really the same thing that the post is saying -- but a good read
BatLadyRielle
Yeah, that's what i'm trying to say- I can't find any source about this post specifically, just that they showed up to defend things.
MammaryExhibitNumberOne
The Barcelona city shuffle
Atalung
During the three glorious days in Paris 1830 the people did this with French armies, blocking them with barricades
JeyViking
Fake
Eksul
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9io_hvNRC8
guti41
Quite the shrewd subterfuge
RichardTheHuman
Win1forthegifer
Finally found it
SpiderDetective
It's pretty far down the page. I'm surprised.
RichardTheHuman
I was surprised when I couldn't find it.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
Settlers of Catalan
Jsmythe
I still have wood for sheep.
ImGoingToEatAllYourApples
danlei
Not going to lie. I laughed at this.
BourbonAndBeethoven
softballguy
masterswasntworthit
Tuoni
We have enough violent cops as it is in France, please take yours back.
EarthAnimalArmy
lol.......just lol
RdizzyC
Lol, the US laughs.
jdecker45
but why?
Eksul
This started cause of a referendum to break free from Spain, video footage is uploaded almost daily showing police brutality in Catalonia
jdecker45
oh my god, how awful.
PleaseMindTheGap
retrohellix
chickitycheckyourself
I'm Catalan and heard the story on Tuesday....found it hard to believe then and no news outlets have confirmed it..highly doubt it happened
RealFuckinNito
I'm stealing this meme for later. Thank you. Also as someone from spain I can tell you I'd heard from this if it happened, motherfuckers
RealFuckinNito
have this conflict on TV fucking 24/7 like it's the most important shit in the world so I'd say this instance is probs made up bollocks.
Tonberryc
Looks like this is made up. The image was likely taken from their "tractor protest" which cleared several blocked roads (source below).
Tonberryc
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-04/catalonia-referendum-spains-king-speaks/9013306
Eksul
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9io_hvNRC8 I don't speak spanish but the source confirms the N240 was blocked due to tractorprotest
Eksul
I cannot find anything however on #2-4.
PhilipJFryy
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
scoobydoobydo
I was expecting the spanish inquisition. How stupid of me.
RealFuckinNito
*sigh* take my filthy upvote you bundle of sticks...
boshbashbish
Bastardo!
ICallPeopleCunts
Spanish police are cunts
StatmanIbrahimovic
schleimkeim
Why the downvotes? They are.
drame
No proof provided so dismissed equally as easily.
SelfPleasureRobot
Because generalizations are stupid and obtuse ways of thinking?
ICallPeopleCunts
Imgur is also full of cunts
houseofnifty
Whats the legal definition of rebellion?
doesnotexistanymoredeprecatedaccountthanksforthememories
Action taken against authority?
SkippedOver
Going to go off the Collins British dictionary for this one: 1. "organized resistance or opposition to a government or other authority" 1/2
SkippedOver
2: "dissent from an accepted moral code or convention of behaviour, dress, etc" 2/2
wwilberforce
No-one expects the Spanish tractors!
Grudgebearingmidget
NOONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH AGRICULTURAL INSTITUTION!
muleFUEL
5D85DA
Well done, +1
TardisHatstand
lawiseman
Comment of the month!
Pinaplewapi
Solborn
No one expects the Catalan Insurrection!
AgainstMethod
Except for how everyone did.
Name0fUser
Thalarctos
ImgursLibertarian
The Spanish Mahindras? The Spanish International-Harvesters? The Spanish John Deere? The Spanish New Holland? None of these work... :(
RandomIsotope
Spanish Caterpillar? Nobody expects that.
WoolyBullyDoesNotRhymeWithSully
Spanish tractadors
StopLookingAtMyUsernameSWAAN
They were Catalan tractors, though.
MossyMoose
Fuckin' Catalina wine tractors
ItsARental
Exactly. No one expects the Spanish tractors.
ExplainThisJoke
I didn't expect this reference to be so controversial
Jameszombob
Still a part of Spain for now.
DarkMaster98
No one expects the currently Spanish, maybe Catalonian in the future Tractors!
JThomson777
Damn those currently Spanish but maybe Catalonian in the future tractors! Every damn time.
bjuttejuppe
First laugh of the day! Please keep going!
wagnus
Good fuckn yard
T4ggl3
Front page meta woo
hamberglar
Holy shit that was meta.
TheKredibleHulk
ITS HAPPENING!
junglebuns
Someone had to bring this back.
Azjsy
Its the previous post on FP at the moment
guywhobrowsesstuff
...screamed the stable boy
PeePeeFrictionPleasure
Reference game on point - I'll allow extension of your homework for that
InternetLawyer
You have until Wednesday 11:59pm. It must be submitted to turnitin.com
GlgrdsklechhhExaltedSchlurch
thecabagethatjeremyclarksoneatsinS21EO3ofTopGear
MsAlderaan
abitskeptical
I thought this was one of those times when the image and the comments were erroneously mismatched
XiyadJaffa
You have till Wednesday at 11:59 AM
amysteriousgoose
I got that reference.
YeahBu0y
Not sure if on the wave of this trend, or resurfacing
yourspacelawyer
Are we really doing this?
DrChimRichulds
This scene is pure fuckin gold.
AstronautChicken
I can hear that scream in my head. And her ridiculous laugh.
linusTheTiger
Its a thing now. Get on board or get yard (Im still learning how to use it)
EveryonesCousin
You bet your fucking yard we are.
AstronautChicken
I had a dream about him last night. Didn't know I needed this gif.
ArentWetheWaggies
Hahahahah what's name Thad? Oil changesss hahahahks
Susurus
So, uh, why did his shoulder explode?
waterbucketsandsparetowels
They did a lot of drugs... like... a lot
MrPetitePenii
sooo many drugs. the gear was also set on fire.
MajorMeme
keep slayin boi
lordofhouselurker
Patrick Davidson
Ijustliketotalkshit
I want what you're drinking
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
So I can forget what you said.
GoodFknYard
Good yard.
iScreenshotGifsAndUseThemToComment
Sent from my iPhone
KenyanNinja
ItsVikk
[Black bar]
FlyGuyRN
I’m going to start saying this to my wife.
PossiblyJonSnow
What's up with this yard thing. I see it everywhere!
hamberglar
As of right now it's the post directly ahead of this one. Which is perfect because anyone who hits next on that post will see this one.
ohdamb
ziludoSmasher
Its from a post about a drunk student emailing a professor for an extension. He says 'Good Yard'
36roentgen
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AU2Ln65I_a8/hqdefault.jpg
mainfrym
The Constitution that they agreed to for self government says Independence must come from a Catalan Parliament decision not a popular vote.
VodkaReindeer
Did they agree to the Spanish constitution also?
mainfrym
Yes when they were granted autonomy.
Skawomplious
Did you miss the part where the Parliament called for the vote to decide if they were going to secede or not?
Qualtagh
Dang really? Is that a new Constitution or actually the foundation of the current government?
pintDMG
And the Catalan parliament is moving for independence on Monday. Which, given the reaction from Madrid, is going to be a pretty safe vote.
TheBlueMuppet
Could the world get a new country? If so, im excited.
doesnotexistanymoredeprecatedaccountthanksforthememories
I don't think we should be, instead there should be peaceful merges. However, the Catalonians are braver than I so I should shut my mouth.
TheBlueMuppet
Hehe, im for peace too. More hobbies come out of peace. I like hobbies.
kraeftig
A popular vote tells the parliament what the people want. It's not a binding vote but more a poll.
Desomega
Definitely wasn't billed that way to the Catalan people, the rest of Spain, or the rest of the world for that matter.
kraeftig
It wasn't billed that way to people that don't understand republics. Catalán is not a direct democracy AFAIK so they should know already
kraeftig
General population votes never do anything in republics except declare popular desire.
Desomega
As I replied to someone else, I get that completely. I was just saying that all I ever heard said was "Spanish government cracking down 1/2
p75369
It never is. Because in a democracy it efffectively is. A politian that defied a public vote like that would be slaughtered in the polls.
Desomega
I completely agree and understand your point entirely; what I don't get is why I was downvoted for saying that.
Desomega
Guess if I'm not expressly stating my support and understanding of the independence movement, people assume I'm speaking against it.
Kaezz
Whoever planned that has played a lot of strategy games..and they said video games would never help you in life..pshhh
OliverClothesoff70
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/SimFarm_Coverart.png/220px-SimFarm_Coverart.png
frenchfries013
Farming simulator
RaynWisp
I did this exact same move when I was fighting Gaul on the Iberian Peninsula in Rome: Total War... this EXACT FUCKING THING!
unscot
Or perhaps, and hear me out, strategy games are based on techniques used in real life?
SlowboatToShortbus
This is a straight-up Settlers of Catan move
CommieGold
Placing workers like a boss.
Bumiller
Settlers of Catalan
Slander7
The police concersely must be into the GoT TV show where armies absolutely never use scouts.
Lamech777
Not to mention all that time in Farming Simulator 2018
sunyudai
I think that if they own tractors in Catalonia, they aren't playing the simulator version.
Lamech777
Maybe they have gaming laptops in their tractors for those long days, farm while you farm, dawg
CheshireCad
"Okay, these modded scenarios are starting to get *weird*."
Hybris51129
Command & Conquer and Age of Empires have prepared me. Ready the Ion Cannon.
KamSolastor
Ion Cannon ready, Commander.
Hybris51129
https://imgur.com/HxhNp6Q
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Hybris51129
Power Low.
IFavoriteRecipesToTryLater
You must construct additional pylons!
Hybris51129
Unable to comply building in progress.
GNiko
Maybe he's a grognard and plays strategy games on a board, not computer.
Kiopho
Or you know, books.
brrrackobama
Or they read LotR. This is exactly what the hobbitses did in the Battle of Bywater!
whyareallusernamestakenalready
Filthy hobbitses
sundaymondayhippyday
After they read The ARt of War
sunyudai
ARRRRRRRR!!!!!!
PudgyPinkiePie
Or has read the Art of War. Force a column from the main force and then cut it off.
NEEDZMOAR
or is using common sense
oreogolem
Oh sure, leave it to the TS to suggest reading a book.
PudgyPinkiePie
Books! I've read several on the subject~
BaronVonJoeJoe
I've done that in tons of strategy games and some MMO's like planetside, nothing worse than dragging a collumn into a minefield.
PudgyPinkiePie
Only thing I liked about playing the Allies in RA2. Prism tanks. Move em into position and hide 'em, attack a force and lead them back
BaronVonJoeJoe
Running support in milsims is always fun you feel like you save the day every time you do something then the real frontliners are just 1/2
BaronVonJoeJoe
2/2 thank god for the help but fuck you for cleaning this shit up we didn't need it.
Snooj
Attila the Hun would regularly retreat from battle to draw out parts of the enemy army in pursuit and then slaughter them.
nesurame
it works great against my teammates in mobas too.
KingZullu
Every nomadic horse people did that.
Supernerdje
*TRIGGGERRED!!!*****
KRAZExF35
"He's saving guys, let's hunt him."
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
A lot of folk did that. Hell, even the Spartans managed it on foot. It tends to work very well, right up until the enemy holds formation.
PudgyPinkiePie
Sun Tzu turned it into an art.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Fun thing that battle I was thinking of happened before Sun Tzu is assumed to have been born. Lots of smart folk in history. Tzu gets a lot1
Arthemax
For the Mongols it pretty much always worked. They would shoot you full of arrows if you didn't pursue them.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
It worked right up until it didn't. The Second Hungarian Invasion and the Egyptian Invasion it really backfired.
CanadianFurr
It worked against the Anglo Saxons too.
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CanadianFurr
I was referring to 1066, but ok.
janskis
And russians :)
doesnotexistanymoredeprecatedaccountthanksforthememories
Byzantines.
TrijezniMujo
Then behead them and let their blood be the mortar to hold their skulls together in the skull throne! PRAISE BE KHORNE!
BeardedViking
Twitchanov
allegedlynerdy
PudgyPinkiePie
HERESY!
Marcster01
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
PudgyPinkiePie
HERESY
Mrginger128
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
PudgyPinkiePie
HERESY
TrijezniMujo
HERESY FOR THE HERESY GOD!
Cassian
The president of Catalonia had to pull a spy movie stunt so he could vote. While the helicopters followed his car, he went into a tunnel,
Cassian
switched cars, and made someone else drive the original one, so he could go vote without the cops attacking the electoral college.
InternetLawyer
The hell? Really? It was the Italian Job, not the Spanish Job
Cresset
That shit never works in GTA
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
That's because it's lazy Spanish cops, tget
MichaelCBennett
yeah, need a color change to fool them.
HitlersArtCritic
Thats because the cops are less like "police" and more like angry hornets that won't stop trying to run into you.
Ivain
I mean, the cops are programmed to hone in on your player character, not logical identifiers like the car you're driving.
Ivain
*home in
Gilgamech
What's going on here - part of the EU is trying to separate, and another part won't let them?
MixMasterPants
No. Catalan is a semi autonomous part of Spain. They want to separate from Spain fully.
Gilgamech
Will Catalan be part of EU after the split?
MixMasterPants
Who knows. At this point the split seems unlikely, or at least difficult to achieve. I expect the new state would have to join the EU...
Gilgamech
They should move the EU out of state-level and down to province-level. European states come and go but provinces just get redistributed.
justlittleoldme2020
Basically there's two issues. Some of the originally poor parts of Europe are now some of the wealthiest parts thanks to EU subsidies 1/2
justlittleoldme2020
2/2 Now they think they can leave the country that supported them in getting all that money, both Bavaria and Catalan are so very similar
DenverCoderIX
Spent it all on drugs and hookers, and when confronted with the facts and no more bigger slices of the pie from mama state, are throwing a 2
justlittleoldme2020
P.S. the UK issues are kinda different and similar...but mostly it's historical issues in the UK. It seems in Europe you become wealthy 1st
andyonetime
Not an expert but I don't think Catalonia got rich from EU subsidies
DenverCoderIX
Tantrum to keep the wealthy elites rich and the uneducated populace misdirected and busy. Let them go and starve, they'll come back. 3
justlittleoldme2020
I'm not going to agree with ya @carmenandreavingagregonzalez . It's a matter of confidence in having enough money to control yourself.
justlittleoldme2020
And thinking you automatically will remain a member of the EU. But the rules are clear. The countries that they are part of currently are
DenverCoderIX
This. Catalonia has always been a bunch of poor uneducated farmers under the Kingdom of Aragon. They got a stupidly high amount of funding,1
AskingTheRealQuestions
Has literally nothing to do with the EU.
Gilgamech
Will Catalan be part of EU after the split?
AskingTheRealQuestions
They would definitely join the EU as well. But Catalan independence is highly unlikely.
Jsmythe
If Catalan succeeds, will it affect the EU? Will Spain be a drain?
AskingTheRealQuestions
They will definitely join the EU as well. But Catalan independence is highly unlikely.
shreddedking
this has nothing to do with EU. its spain's internal matter
j02di
Not true. They broke several rights, detained politicians, beated up pacific voters, closed web sites... & refuse to change the constitution
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
DIdn't EU denounce the election though? That seems different from remaining distant and neutral.
SanguineKnave
The commission basically said "Spain's problem, we dgaf", Parliament said "erm maybe don't beat up civilians"
corneliusgansevoort
Seems like Leaders on both sides being super irresponsible and Spanish cops made the situation MUCHWORSE with excessive force last week.
corneliusgansevoort
Now many Catalonians (and Spanish) who were against succession may feel different after Spanish cops brutally tried to prevent the vote.
DenverCoderIX
It wasn't excessive force FFS. You can't fight violence with flowers. Next on the news: water gets you wet.
corneliusgansevoort
You're a cunt. There are plenty of ways to remove and arrest people who aren't fighting back that don't involve dragging them by their hair.
borraya
Excessive force. 400 injuries treated on hospital. Just 4 spent the night. 1 remains on hospital. Of more than 2.000.000 voters. 1/2
borraya
More are hurt each football day and no one bats a lash.
Moonhoof
That's less important than seeing police strike people with batons, who were just sitting down on staircases refusing to leave.
Moonhoof
To some people*** Images are hard to explain away.
ReallyGoodBee
Catalonia wants a democratic vote and independence from Spain. The vote is symbolic, but seceding is against the Spanish constitution.
ReallyGoodBee
Spain's response to the situation was to send in the National Police and beat Catalonia into submission by physically blocking the vote.
ReallyGoodBee
The police were literally raiding polling stations with rubber bullets and tear gas and ripping ballot boxes out of people's hands.
tzap
Whether they should have been asked to block the vote or not is anotehr thing.
tzap
To be fair, at the point where the police is asked to block a vote, there's not much else to do but throw in the tear gas and rubber bullets
Moonhoof
Catalonia is one of the richer parts of spain, also culturally different. Held an illegal (according to Spanish government) vote & "won" it.
Pelikanmutationsgesang
It was a court that ruled it to be unconstitutional. Voter turnout was about 42%, so not really representative.
j02di
Illegal according to the 1978 spanish constitution, written @ the end of the dictatorship by the regime government, which dont want to chnge
Swaisdrais
Gilgamech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjoHOSFBgt8
Moonhoof
Not sure why you're linking me that...
crazyfaceII
Big problem with the vote is that since the government said it was illegal, most people not in favour of independence probably didnt vote
BrutaldeLuxe
If you dont vote, you voice dont matter so now they've got themselves to blame.
Moonhoof
Very true - Which is why it was such a shame things had to get violent at all. Now people who didn't support it might as a reaction.
16745
Not really won it. AFAIK most catalonians would've voted to stay with Spain. How recent events changed their opinion I don't know.
Moonhoof
So yeah... Both sides were in the wrong. One side sent in rubber bullet armed police though, heh.
16745
Yep, a sad low point for a democracy, afaic.
TrijezniMujo
Maybe their opinion changed when Spanish police came down and beat up people wanting to vote? Crazy thought, I know.
Subtilico
Afaik it always was about 50-50 on this matter. The actions of Madrid just fuelled the independence movement.
elfenix
NPR said it was about 55-45 in favor of aragon staying with castille (as it has been since 1469)
Moonhoof
Hence the "". This is exactly why a peaceful popular vote (no legal ramifications) would have been the better alternative.
BalfMalark
The voters didnt make it unpeaceful
Moonhoof
Neither did the riot police armed with batons and rubber bullets, who forced people away by force to begin with.
SanguineKnave
Fun fact: the preliminary results had a greater percentage of eligible voters vote for Catalan independence than there were for brexit
16745
Tbf, that's not a hard thing to archive..
SanguineKnave
No, but it's internationally accepted as a democratic mandate. I'm also happy if we stop accepting brexit as legitimate :P
charlie2979
42% turnout with 90% voting for independence according to the Catalan government.
elfenix
when there's a vote that's illegitimate, many in the opposition to the referendum don't vote because they don't want to give it legitimacy
charlie2979
It's turnout was large enough for it to be legitimate despite being illegal. Higher proportion of eligible voters than brexit for example.
BalfMalark
I think there was about 70% of the public for separating from the rest of Spain
SanguineKnave
> 90% of people who voted. About 38% of eligible voters (brexit was 37.44% of eligible voters for comparison)
BalfMalark
Thank you! Stay safe!
LoudBirb
Of the voting public. But most of the pro-Spain peeps stayed home because Spain said the vote was illegal.
BalfMalark
Cant count your vote if you dont turn up. Most people didnt vote for Brexit, but its happening. Same with Trump
DenverCoderIX
This. Only fucktards went voting. Normal and well-adjusted people stayed at home, not partaking on criminal actions.
Genini
If most of them would have voted to stay with Spain then Spain wouldn't have tried to stop the vote.
16745
It isn't that simple. Last time I was in catalonia the remain voters where in the majority, but the independence voters where way louder.
Genini
Why didn't they turn out to vote then?
P0kEy
The the vote was 90% in favor of secession, the vote was also counted by the people who were in favor of secession in the first place.
Havak
Also only about 43% of the population voted.
nfPle4c3hI
Only 55% of Americans of voting age, vote during presidential elections.
P0kEy
I didn't even think it was nearly that I was thinking about half of that. I would say over 50 percent would be good.
ScreamedTheStableBoy
It's worth noting that more might have been counted if they wernt being beaten And alot the polling boxes were taken it mayve been over half
LordSlickRick
It was deemed an illegal election before it happened. So if you were in favor of staying, you would not have been out at that vote anyways.
LordSlickRick
Less than half the population votes I think.
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RolloDumbassi
Also if they went independent then Spain would block them joining the EU.
ClrFM
The UK threatened that Scotland would be out of the EU if they went independent. Facepalm all round.
Moonhoof
That's... what I said.
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Moonhoof
"intercreped" - Also there was a result. It still wasn't a legally binding referendum vote however, never was.
Moonhoof
No. Part of Spain wants to secede and become its own country. Spain won't let them, foreign countries say it is an internal matter.
CavendishBandana
Not sure much different would happen in US if one of the states actually tried to seceed. Treasonous to try I think.
DrKriegersClone
There are separation advocacy movements in California and Alaska. I don't think anyone has stopped laughing long enough to charge them 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ with treason though.
MichaelCBennett
It's not treason until the petition is denied. Then it's treason to try, though working on another petition wont be.
LokiKingOfJotunheim
That's probably because it's not treasonous to talk about it.
AwkwardKeming
Yeah, that happened in the US too. We didn't let them go either.
Moonhoof
Happened in the British Empire as well. You're welcome ;)
BeanieBro
And we'd still own black people today of it weren't for you meddling kids.. And your dog too!
TheMerryScandinavian
Not really the same. Catalonia has its own culture and language.
Damlik
Not more than other regions in Spain
AwkwardKeming
If y'all knew the South, y'all'd'nt've said they don't have their own language.
Swaisdrais
Im semi pro-independence from Spain, but this argument is getting quite annoying. Like if you were a special snowflake...
AskingTheRealQuestions
The whole "own culture and language" argument for nationalism and independence is getting kind of irrelevant in 2017.
GearHead96
To be fair, so does the South.
MichaelCBennett
And then theirs California.
924Carrera
Y'all best believe it brotha
j02di
It is a matter of Spanish 1978 fascist government's constitution VS the UNO chart of human rights. They voted against it in the first place!
blackagar
You're on the wrong side of history this time bro
Sparky6277
He didn't state an opinion?
Swaisdrais
Moonhoof
Sounds a lot like an opinion replying to... a statement of facts. I don't recall mentioning any personal opinions on the matter.
blackagar
https://i.gyazo.com/6e0f4a2d7271f119ea1f8c3cbbd67763.png this is my opinion.
Moonhoof
Then we agree. What should have been a peaceful, political statement turned into unneeded violence.
KNDBS
History has no sides
blackagar
Unlike the this table that I just turned! (ノ°Д°)ノ︵ ┻━┻
BatBruce
ಠ_ಠ Bob...put.the table.back!
IamNotAshamed
I'd say a part of the people of a part of Spain want to see it seperated.
Moonhoof
Fair correction - Didn't expect thread to explode. Was just a quick TLDR within imgur character limits.
LegacyMuse
Nope. Earthquake imminent. Actual separation is coming.
IamNotAshamed
legitimated by who? not the government, not the people
BlueGodBalmung
Hardly any government would ever legitimize the secession of a state from the nation.