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Jul 8, 2023 11:43 PM
skapanda616
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Filanwizard
If God is so great why are they supposed to be feared? Sounds like a dictator to me.
sadurdaynight
"This fictional character in this book that's been rewritten several times to suit whoever was in power at the time says your awful and I should devote my life to dehumanizing you." - bible thumpers
SuckMyFatOne
Trixie Mattel for president
Transandtired
Greatgrimm
Patty don't start.
MossyAbyss
"God said I can't do that", alright then. "God said you can't do that", and now we have a problem.
GCRust
Louder, for people in the back.
Refragmental
Trixie is awesome. Would love to see more of her on hete.
DarkBusterBaron
#2
Couchwarrior1337
"Pack your shit" he apparently took that advice as "steal top secret documents", easy mistake to make.
Fendeezy
And it gets better with the fact that he hid some of them in the bathroom.
Atomic2
Her makeup is like dazzle paint. I can't really understand what the hell is going on but if I was a german U boat, I'd definitely miss.
Transandtired
I'm definitely dazzled
TheZommie
so Christianity is a lot like Wrestling, everyone knows it is fake, but the people into it don't like it when anyone points out that it is just a bunch of silly bullshit old people made up
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
FUCKIN GET EM, TRIXIE! WOOOH!
RunninOnInternets
I don’t know who this person is but hard agree
RoyalOss
The Trixie and Katya show was so much fun.
kaitco1984
It’s Trixie Mattel. An AMAZING drag queen.
amb1021
That's what this RW SCOTUS is doing. They're not even privileging religion in general, bc they ruled a few years ago that a Muslim prisoner could not have an imam at his execution even though Christians could have a pastor. They are privileging particular sects of Christianity over the rest of us, e.g., that nutty TX judge killed federal birth control for minors in TX bc one "Christian" dad said its mere existence threatened his rights as a [controlling creepy] Christian parent.
mkkvegas
Well, all hail Trixe. You go bitch 😘
Ganpool
trixie is the best just love this queen
BootsDusty
DeadeicPrints
Me Satan, and you're late! Get tf up here.
FirePrinceZuzu
Saddam Hussein.
gnomedeplume
I heard they broke up, he might be seeing someone else now
indigodragons
Trixie 🥰 🥰 🥰
OogaOogaMooshka
Oh my gawd yes. Perfect. We are mollycoddling them! I’m gonna make a fucking tshirt with that on it.
nangke
I know very few people who were raised atheist/agnostic/any-other-religion, but I wish I had more anecdata on how much they as kids might have been casually exposed to Christian practices and expected to follow along because I suspect it might be a lot. Like "in this house, we say grace before eating" or if you stayed overnight into a Sunday, you'd be dragged along with the family to church
OogaOogaMooshka
We were raised Catholic and my mom was very devout til she died. I quit going to mass as a teen but my mom never gave me grief about it. I have always been grateful for that.
Eldibs
I don't know who Trixie is, but that line about the ballot boxes was fantastic.
ucandcantunc
Common argument. Just cause you and your sky god think its immoral does not mean it is.
LordChapstick
I love Trixie... so much.
FallenJester
I saw her live show a few years back, she was hilarious. Also had a bunch of digital skits with.... Katja?
LordChapstick
She has her YouTube channel, does a bunch of stuff with other queens/LGBT friendly folks. It's quite the delight.
biotechonista
Katya! As seen here in her normal state, advertising for the 1997 film Contact!
TheSevvy
Eat the rich, then the Christians.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
#3 a loser
gnomedeplume
Literally "Hi my name's Firstnamebunchofnumbers and here's my incredibly shitty opinions"
chefchris357
Trixie is the best! Just a great entertainer on so many levels!
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Christianity is just begging your imaginary friend for their permission for you to live freely.
Pgoodso
Also, I need you to fuck somebody I can have beer with who will pretend to be scared of my gun.
Br0doSwaggins
...but god loves you... and he needs MONEY $$$
MossyAbyss
I miss Carlin.
TiredSnowball
I hate this kind of over the top makeup, and like a sane person I just don't do it on myself. Whoever it makes them happy, they should be able to do it with no criticism from the idiots pretending to speak for any deity.
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Horus175
As I understand with drag queens it's actually a stylistic choice specific to their performance art. They only do themselves up like that when they perform; they don't go to a restaurant or the grocery store looking like that.
vegivamp
Yep. There's no such thing as quiet drag.
BisAndThighHighs
The over the top persona is what seperates drag from crossdressing entertainer, it's part of what drag is, there's also "Painting for the back row" that ensures everyone can see it regardless of where they're sat in the audience.
Boopdoot
It's drag, it's meant to look over the top and fab.
IridescentStrix
Makeup like this always immediately reminds me of Mimi from the Drew Carey show. I am pretty neutral to this look, I guess, but it makes me happy to see people expressing themselves in their appearance, even if it wouldn't fit my style.
spookyactionatadistance
Why? Why do you even take the time to say you hate it when really you just don't know shit about it. Why was it important for you to even mention you hate it. You should ask yourself that question. It might lead to difficult realisation about bias, prejudice and privilege. Don't get me wrong, you are allowed to not like something but sometimes it's ok to just shut up.
IrateWolfe
This is where I stand. Aesthetically, I find them really creepy and unsettling, but I will fight for their right to exist and to express themseves even if it makes me uncomfortable, because it's not fucking about me
jetact12
Christ doesn't give a damn how you dress. Compassion. Honor. That's what he cares about.
JacaByte
Fuck those shellfish though, don't you dare touch them either
Kaysmira
I see everyone saying it's a stylistic choice, I know that and still think it's a ridiculous and hideous style. It has no bearing on their character whatsoever, and I don't give a damn what clothes they wear, and I appreciate the style of the clothing a lot more than the make-up. I think it actually hits the uncanny valley for me, their face looks so fake that it gives me the same feeling as bad CGI humans.
annonymouse211
Richter12x2
Hey, I'm just glad Dennis Rodman has got his life together, good for them!
JiffyGee
Trixie paints for the check cashing place down the street. It’s an extreme makeup. They’ve also gone on to say that they hate their face, so it could be why they’ve chosen to have this extreme makeup.
secretdpp
It's more of a dress up for the night look. Like when goths hit the club
flamingflamingo
I support what they’re saying but the makeup is confusing. I can’t tell where the eyes are supposed to be, and the line above the jaw is strange. 100% more power to this drag queen, but I disagree with the fashion sense.
orbitn
It's unsettling to me. But that might be what they were going for. Or not. I can have my opinion, but they can and should express themselves however they feel fit, and even if I don't understand it, I can support them for it. I've known I was gay since I was very young, and there are some in the community who would criticize me because I "pass" and don't bring it up or fly pride flags.
TyrannusEquus
Otherworldly vide, I dig it.
Ezzy666
I am fascinated by it and wish I had the patience and talent to do it. Love Kim Chi's make up in the Expensive video and would do it a few times a year to go out if I could
Heninthefoxden
If you like makeup, you can get there with cheap stuff too. Buy.some and play, it's what the kids do
Transandtired
This. A lot of queens do drag on a dime videos too, where they show how to do their look with drugstore makeup
Zahnradfee
It's stage make-up. It's supposed to be viewed from far away under bright lights. When you see them from up close it tends to look funny.
nanyatenyaa
Its not just~ stage make up (for sure PART of it is). I've been in plenty of performances and I have seen stage make up close first hand numerous times (caked one, overly dramatic, wild coloring, etc that looks 'normal' from afar). In terms of drag queens, a lot of it also comes down to a specific style they are going for. Its meant to be over the top, over the top is kinda what drag queens are known for, its one of the entertaining aspects of drag.
Zahnradfee
True.
AccioKittyKitty
I'm not fond of your "like a sane person" addition to that comment. Can you give us your credentials as to how you can objectively classify yourself as "more sane" than those that chose to perform in drag?
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noeditfunction
You dont need a fucking degree to see that someones sanity is in question...need an example? Look at any maga cultist
kittykat25909
I took it as "I am sane because I know not liking this means I simply do not do it, instead of demanding everyone else does not do it." implying the Christians who do not like drag are insane for insisting other people dress in a way they personally approve of.
AccioKittyKitty
Good call. After rereading it, I can see that being the intentional message instead of my interpretation.
losemysparkle
I read it as: like a sane person, if I don’t like something then I just don’t do it. As opposed to religious looneys who don’t like something and decide to try and force other people to stop.
AccioKittyKitty
Yeah, after rereading the post I think you're right. High five on the assist.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
tounushi
On the one hand I'm with Madison, but on the other I think Caroleans were based.
Beefkins
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/damn-those-pesky-facts-meme/
Villosopher
I would like to find the sources of those quotes… not because I don’t believe they’re real, but so I can effectively use them on those who wouldn’t believe they’re real
MrsHowVeryDareYou
AGREED
Beefkins
It isn't completely accurate. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/damn-those-pesky-facts-meme/
Villosopher
I mean Thomas Paine was probably Common Sense, and Madison in one of the Federalist Papers, but the others?
shyriath
The first quote attributed to Adams is actually from Article 11 of the English version of Treaty of Tripoli, which was signed by Adams as president but not authored by him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli#Article_11
Rystefn
One of the Adams ones is the Treaty of Tripoli. If you really want to know, the answer to all is just a google search away.
akodorokku
Sure, but also every single President has been a Christian. Not saying America is *officially* a Christian Nation or *should* be a Christian Nation, but...
tounushi
They don't weigh in on the nation being Christian, but they think the State/Government shouldn't be.
swordsnguns
People seem really riled up that you pointed out that an institutional preference for protestantism is a stain that hangs throughout American history, and most of our most shameful crimes come gilded by the words of the godbotherers.
akodorokku
The TL;DR of, "America has a massive historical bias towards Christians," is too much to hear for some people. Maybe the same people who think they're being persecuted by the godless liberals?
Couchwarrior1337
If you believe Trump was a christian because he waved a book upside-down, he has a bridge to sell you.
akodorokku
He is the pinnacle of GOP Christianity.
Apeofdeath
PocketCleric
Question from the ignorant: if a guy has a drag persona but has no intrest in transitioning or anything beyond drag, should I call the person he or she?
slayston
This isnt probably the correct way but I go by how the person is presenting, if they correct me I change it to whatever they want. If it isn't obvious I just keep it neutral.
januarylover
Check their pronouns, if you can't, but still want to be respectful, using a gender neutral term's your best bet. Most people are understanding if they see you're making an effort to respect people's personal identities.
CatEyebrows
When I want to know a person’s pronouns, I say mine first and that always prompts them to say theirs
gnomedeplume
I mean the obvious thing to do would be to ask them
T3NM1DG3TS
If the wig’s on it’s she. Think of it like Disney world, you’re talking to the character, not the one wearing the costume.
IsolatedAsshole
Depends, but I usually call the person he and the character she.
sharievan
A travesty artist plays a role, a drag queen is the drag queen. If you see a drag queen, it's she. If you don't, well you don't.
Transandtired
The internet is magic
HiddenSanity
Ultimately? Ask. Met some that prefer 'He' all across the board, some that prefer 'She' while 'in character', and one that was in a position where she couldn't transition female without getting cut out of a sizeable will, but could get away with crossdressing and/or drag queen stuff on the side as a 'hobby' and she prefer 'she/her' across the board when with trusted friends.
PocketCleric
I would, but in situations like this, seeing a pic online, and there is no way to....i just dont wanna be rude
HiddenSanity
Safer bet is to call the character 'She' or 'They', most guys that do drag don't mind being refereed to as female in drag, same way a lot of crossplaying cosplayers don't mind being reffered to as their character when dressed up.
PerrinAybara564
When in doubt: they/them is a safe bet
ChainsawVisionMan
In situations like this with famous figures you can look up their social media and if its important to them it'll be prominently called out. In this case Trixie uses all pronouns so you're safe with whatever, but her website uses "her" when referring to the persona Trixie and "his" when referring to Brian Firkus, the performer.
n0tlikethis
The persona is a She and the person(when not in drag) is a He. I could be wrong
skapanda616
Not all queens are cisgender
nanyatenyaa
Also they aren't all men(AMAB), its just exceedingly common that they are.
n0tlikethis
sure
Muffinburgler
But the majority are, which is what most people are talking about.
skapanda616
januarylover
What's this assumption based on?
thedudeman519
Afaik drag queens still identify as male. But the Queen persona is not.
Transandtired
Not all drag queens are men
thedudeman519
They're not ? I thought that dress in drag are called Drag Kings ?
thedudeman519
Women that dress in drag * but if I'm wrong I'm wrong. Thanks for setting the record straight.