It’s not as clever as it looks. As someone whose work just switched over to this packaging for everything, it’s fucking awful. Unless you’re shipping something super tiny, the cardboard binds up and forces the box into bowed and bulging shapes. Plenty of thing can should be able to fit into the box simply won’t. The old boxes we used to use with the stretchy plastic sheet worked infinitely better. Wanna eliminate plastic? Then wadded up paper works better than this crap.
Too inefficient for a mass shipper like Amazon. Paper dunnage is still more effective and inexpensive, especially when you're dealing with the larger boxes that a company like Amazon does. They found it cheaper to bag or SIOC a product, if at all.
Interesting idea if you ship a lot of differently sized and shaped pieces. Otherwise, just make bespoke packing cutouts or press-mold cardboard containers.
It's unique compared to other packaging solutions to the problem, not in relation to what the other packaging does, which is packaging. And people actually invite me to parties.
We need prototypes before we can have good versatile products. A rag was better than a sanitary pad for much of history until better equipment was produced
It’s not. As someone whose work just switched over to this packaging for everything, it’s fucking awful. Unless you’re shipping something super tiny, the cardboard binds up and forces the box into bowed and bulging shapes. Plenty of thing can should be able to fit into the box simply won’t. The old boxes we used to use with the stretchy plastic sheet worked infinitely better.
It's not more effective than packing paper. The only single thing this does better over paper is reduce time spent packing the item. It's less durable than paper, because it's a mess of thin weak joints between triangles. There's zero padding between the item and the bottom panel. The tolerances are more restrictive if the product size or shape changes. You can only ship one item per box. It wastes more space per item, it costs more, and there's no resale value should you no longer need them.
It's not effective by itself. An important part of the extra packaging is to fill the empty space so that the box doesn't collapse under the weight of other boxes resting on top of it at an angle, and then crushes whatever is in it. Most shipping damage to packages is because of them caving in like that. However that thing is pretty useful to fixate your small object, and then just fill it with more paper or air bags or whatever to provide some more structural support.
Debatable. they work best when it's double sided so it kinda keeps the object in the center of the box. This doesn't really do for protection from the bottom, it's mostly to stop it from moving around. The replacement head units I get at work are packed in something similar just double sided so it stays in the center of the box
You would also need to set up a dedicated line and create space in your logistical system, adding $.00.0001 to the manufacturing cost of each bundle of their cardboard boxes. That's just too much money
Punching = exact cutting. A machine with a blade would just need to come down. The pattern appears to tessellate, you'd just need a head that could duplicate the pattern and punch it as required. The pattern conforms to the object, not the other way around
It looks like a $7/hr worker on their fifth Red Bull will blow through 2_3rds of them. Punching isn't exact when the tools get dull, the positioning sensor gets dirty.
the reading comprehension level on this site is outright depressing sometimes. “It’s not like there would need to be hand cut on a large scale” as in on a large scale, this is something a machine makes by stamping the cardboard, instead of a human cutting it with a craft knife. not that it wouldn’t be used on a large scale.
I wish that I found an effective way to package the framed pictures Mom left at her house when I moved her and my brother with Autism in with me. Uhaul sells picture kits for $48 and Mom left behind dozens of pictures. I cut the top 2"(5cm) of normal boxes, wrapped the pictures in bubble wrap, and then boxed them, but instead of filling the voids with packing material, I cut the boxes into quarters, and taped them to be the exact size I needed.
You know what else eliminates plastic? Packing paper. It's also a million times more versatile and you can use it in all box shapes, product shapes, and sizes.
i worked a places were we weould keep all boxes that was in fine shape for resending. once a box got broken or we got to many weirdly shaped one we never used, they got into a carboard shreader like thing that would turn them tino liek weaved tiles of card board so we could use it for stuffing. saves us a lot on shipping cost and... reduce material use. Antistatisc bags as well. reuse reuse reuse
we sell built computers, and all graphic card boxes goes to reuse. All warranty stuff and smaller objects like mouses, software packaging etc. in thousands. is sent in them. We just turn them inside out so outside is plain cardboard. saving recycling fees and packaging cost.
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MBTerrorKitten
Reminds me of the old fedex laptop boxes but not as well designed.
enkrypt3d
witchcraft!
leaderofmars
sponsored by Mercedes
Blunderwriter
That’d be great for mailing cheesecake!!
dirtyketchup
It’s not as clever as it looks. As someone whose work just switched over to this packaging for everything, it’s fucking awful. Unless you’re shipping something super tiny, the cardboard binds up and forces the box into bowed and bulging shapes. Plenty of thing can should be able to fit into the box simply won’t. The old boxes we used to use with the stretchy plastic sheet worked infinitely better. Wanna eliminate plastic? Then wadded up paper works better than this crap.
WhiskyBravo
I like it. No bubble wrap to hit the trash.
pareidoliaperson
Yeah you better not break my car model!
Jawesome19
Ah yes for all the times I'm shipping a single matchbox car or a tape measure
sleix
Too inefficient for a mass shipper like Amazon. Paper dunnage is still more effective and inexpensive, especially when you're dealing with the larger boxes that a company like Amazon does. They found it cheaper to bag or SIOC a product, if at all.
Greymalum
Not as effective as padding surrounding the object, but could be useful for less fragile pieces. Shipping is brutal.
Imalwaysready
That seems really useful. I hope they’ll make more than just the one.
MrSnuffleupagus172
https://www.hexpandbox.com/
AyatollahBahloni
Impressive creativity. I see that being most useful for light items, but effective.
magikmarker
I like it, but for fragile items I'd put a waffle both under and over. With that folding it will be pretty easy to modify.
magikmarker
It's just a paper version of a bubble card (my name for it) add some loose pack, and it's good.
Xenarion
Fancy, but I highly doubt this can handle shipping.
BillyPancakes
Interesting idea if you ship a lot of differently sized and shaped pieces. Otherwise, just make bespoke packing cutouts or press-mold cardboard containers.
FurtiveGlancer
Very cool - no need for all that Styrofoam 👏
Mohaynow
No way, toss the item in a plastic bag big enough to park a car in and send it off! /S
purr
neat
Handyolo
Technichally this is the opposite of unique packaging seeing as it's actually very versatile.
Yes, I am fun at parties.
TheBlueMuppet
It's unique compared to other packaging solutions to the problem, not in relation to what the other packaging does, which is packaging. And people actually invite me to parties.
Bunnies007
I like!
Eidodk
Unique packaging ? I'd call it generic packaging!
spinbutton3
Paper is soooo magical!
Juggerbaff
Only 99.99 USD
madeejit
I ordered a hammer and it arrived with three layers of packaging. It's a hammer, they're not easy to break.
Mithi
But they might break their neighbours
Totallycasual
I think if it had no layers and was able to just jostle about inside the box, you'd receive an empty box with a hammer sized hole in it lol
irrelevant18
Can we pleeease have this instead of styrofoam FFS?
MrSnuffleupagus172
Here’s a link to the manufacturer if you want to know more https://www.hexpandbox.com/
mageninja
Now put something in that has sharp corners.
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Snausagebort
He said “sharp corners,” not “a piece of shit.”
fudgycurmudgeon
Plain old crumpled paper is better than this crap.
Ainathevikingprincess
I read that as crumpet paper and was confused at first, and then it got me hungry
PosthumousExile
We need prototypes before we can have good versatile products. A rag was better than a sanitary pad for much of history until better equipment was produced
MrSnuffleupagus172
Here’s the link to the manufacturer https://www.hexpandbox.com/
Escapist83
Seems really clever, I wonder if it's effective.
MasterMookie
It looks like it would be effective against tumbling but it wouldn't do much against impacts especially on the bottom.
dirtyketchup
It’s not. As someone whose work just switched over to this packaging for everything, it’s fucking awful. Unless you’re shipping something super tiny, the cardboard binds up and forces the box into bowed and bulging shapes. Plenty of thing can should be able to fit into the box simply won’t. The old boxes we used to use with the stretchy plastic sheet worked infinitely better.
TerribleBot
This is just an ad ...
ApothecaryGrant
It's not more effective than packing paper. The only single thing this does better over paper is reduce time spent packing the item. It's less durable than paper, because it's a mess of thin weak joints between triangles. There's zero padding between the item and the bottom panel. The tolerances are more restrictive if the product size or shape changes. You can only ship one item per box. It wastes more space per item, it costs more, and there's no resale value should you no longer need them.
magikmarker
It doesn't look like it's meant to be reusable, and the joints only need to survive one packing.
neithermenoryou
It's not effective by itself. An important part of the extra packaging is to fill the empty space so that the box doesn't collapse under the weight of other boxes resting on top of it at an angle, and then crushes whatever is in it. Most shipping damage to packages is because of them caving in like that. However that thing is pretty useful to fixate your small object, and then just fill it with more paper or air bags or whatever to provide some more structural support.
clarkWhogotsanity
Debatable. they work best when it's double sided so it kinda keeps the object in the center of the box. This doesn't really do for protection from the bottom, it's mostly to stop it from moving around. The replacement head units I get at work are packed in something similar just double sided so it stays in the center of the box
hhggg3000
Thanks for making it so I didn’t have to figure out how to articulate this.
clarkWhogotsanity
Np, I believe there is an industry term for this type of packing but what it is I have no idea.
DarkRedCape
Effective? Seems like it would be. Cost effective? Probably not enough for the likes of Amazon.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
That cutter would be integrated into the same stamping process that cuts the cardboard blanks out, it would add zero time to manufacturing
NowhereMan313
I dunno. If they can make those at scale, it can't be more expensive than the eighteen feet of bubble wrap most of my shipments come in.
Gunslinger8912
I mean, it's just a sheet of cardboard that could be punched, it's not like those would need to be hand cut or anything on a large scale
WhyDontYouMakeMe
You would also need to set up a dedicated line and create space in your logistical system, adding $.00.0001 to the manufacturing cost of each bundle of their cardboard boxes. That's just too much money
pintDMG
It seems to rely on a lot more volume. Only works for pieces much smaller than the box. Ironically the one thing Amazon doesn't care about.
Lewd4D
There is 100% some kind of thin film of plastic on it otherwise it would just easily rip apart. It also looks a bit more shiny.
MrSnuffleupagus172
Has options to be made with just a single material (recycled cardboard) depending upon the use https://www.hexpandbox.com/
Frederf
It looks like it relies on exact cutting and careful handling.
Gunslinger8912
Punching = exact cutting. A machine with a blade would just need to come down. The pattern appears to tessellate, you'd just need a head that could duplicate the pattern and punch it as required. The pattern conforms to the object, not the other way around
Frederf
It looks like a $7/hr worker on their fifth Red Bull will blow through 2_3rds of them. Punching isn't exact when the tools get dull, the positioning sensor gets dirty.
DarkRedCape
Large scale? Amazing world wide millions of boxes a day. This is the definition of large scale.
Gunslinger8912
The other comment or said it for me. Obv Amazon is large scale, and there's no reason this couldn't be automated to scale up.
ThomasThundersword
the reading comprehension level on this site is outright depressing sometimes. “It’s not like there would need to be hand cut on a large scale” as in on a large scale, this is something a machine makes by stamping the cardboard, instead of a human cutting it with a craft knife. not that it wouldn’t be used on a large scale.
MenloPart
I wish that I found an effective way to package the framed pictures Mom left at her house when I moved her and my brother with Autism in with me.
Uhaul sells picture kits for $48 and Mom left behind dozens of pictures.
I cut the top 2"(5cm) of normal boxes, wrapped the pictures in bubble wrap, and then boxed them, but instead of filling the voids with packing material, I cut the boxes into quarters, and taped them to be the exact size I needed.
Notthewatdabney
Eliminates plastic? Okay by me.
PantsAreForTheWeek
Except the plastic you're shipping in it.
Notthewatdabney
Well, yeah.
PantsAreForTheWeek
yeah.
JAPONfan
Nah, it's carton with a thin film of plastic. That only tetrapack mulchers can separate.
Notthewatdabney
Yay /s
TurnsOut42WasASlightMiscalculation
Aha. I was thinking the point connections in cardboard wouldn't be very strong. Must rely on the plastic - kind ruins the earth-friendliness
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
Would be better to just use crumpled up paper as filler.
vegivamp
I mean, it's better than all plastic, but yeah.
ApothecaryGrant
You know what else eliminates plastic? Packing paper. It's also a million times more versatile and you can use it in all box shapes, product shapes, and sizes.
TripleDane
i worked a places were we weould keep all boxes that was in fine shape for resending. once a box got broken or we got to many weirdly shaped one we never used, they got into a carboard shreader like thing that would turn them tino liek weaved tiles of card board so we could use it for stuffing. saves us a lot on shipping cost and... reduce material use.
Antistatisc bags as well. reuse reuse reuse
MenloPart
People shred and compost boxes.
SergeyPrkl
we sell built computers, and all graphic card boxes goes to reuse. All warranty stuff and smaller objects like mouses, software packaging etc. in thousands. is sent in them. We just turn them inside out so outside is plain cardboard. saving recycling fees and packaging cost.
TripleDane
Yup the good old inside out back when i worked in IT hardware most of the motherboard boxes was the same size. so ery easy to reuse
SergeyPrkl
ofc we are fully aware the moneysaving is no big deal, but they are perfectly good boxes. So why not, best kind of recycling. Use it as intended.