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AsianLeprechaun
I'm sure 80% of Americans want to get more sleep.
Ogre6
The only 80% I want is an 80% lower receiver
puffyjacket69
Unfortunately the president and fox news made listening to science and facts partisan...
jbcars4life
If 80% of Americans voted...well one can dream right
temperedtorture
80% of Americans supported Bush after 9/11 and it killed millions of people as a result.
MajorTom0101
Perspective is funny, I'm sitting here in rural canada going, "you guys are wearing masks?"
heartybeefandpotato
If 64.3% of statistics weren't arbitrarily made up, i'd have toilet paper.
AdamGenesis
Wife and I ran errands today, we both have face masks. Only saw 40% wearing masks. Others just acting like everything's normal.
FlissFloss86Gaming
It's tough getting everyone on the same page when our most popular "news" network is straight propaganda
TheFastpaws
Never going to happen as a majority of America liked to band together to be morons in large groups.
SamsonSuperSlug
This site shares the same colour scheme as porn hub. Don't act like you didn't notice.
RexNihil
Tell them the mask prevents facial recognition technology from identifying them via bird-cam.
TCooley79
Sadly this could actually work
folkscallmehi
v
DownUnderAussie
Ha ha ha, and blocks 5G technology....
betterunsaid
In Georgia been to three restaurants without even a single worker wearing a mask. And their dining rooms are open. Smh
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
It’s gotta be an interesting break down by state. I’m in Vermont and in stores and things I see maybe 2 people not wearing masks.
DogsandPandas
And by city too. Where I live its required that all employees and patrons have a mask on. I’m sure other cities don’t enforce that.
The business also has to have a designated person monitoring masks are on and social distancing or could lose their license.
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
TN mask usage plummeted recently. In my recent grocery trips at least 60% of shoppers weren’t wearing masks.
It’s like when the state opened up people took it as the all clear. I just passed the mall and it’s hopping.
VikingZoidberg
Yeah here in Norway poeple don't wear masks. Reccomended that people not use them, because most will not use them correctly...
...touch their face more etc. which makes them pointless and wasting resources, or even contribute to more spreading the virus more...
...the focus here has been on more effective means on stopping the spread
steikewaffel
Source? Because this smells like BS.
Pulsar1975
And why did they choose a pic of Milan Galleria for this article?
RIPDayRoot
I'm the only one wearing a mask at work. I told them it made me feel better about the virus. Sad I had to defend myself
glaug
With a gun, or..?
Defend myself from the judgment of others for wearing a mask
Ah, a knife, then.
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
Does anyone have the source study?
Found the link in the vanity Fair article. The article itself left out that the study included social distancing and their assumptions
On how good masks work are extremely optimistic when compared to other recent studies. (70% blockage of both inhaled and exhaled particles)
The only way to get that high of blockage of both inhaled and exhaled particles is to wear an N95 AND and surgical mask at the same time.
https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764367/effectiveness-surgical-cotton-masks-blocking-sars-cov-2-controlled-comparison
sparky2212
Just tell them Obama agrees with not wearing a mask.
anengineerandacat
If 80% of any cultural group wanted to do anything I would be amazed. Let's not pretend that US citizens are the only ones wanting to work.
bohemiancrabcity
Greatest Korea has 100% of citizens wanting to do the same thing.
heartsfarts
You can work while wearing a mask, I'm not sure what one has to do with another
ridge
It certainly depends on the mask. I have one my work gave me, and it's hard to breathe through, and every exhale fogs up my glasses.
The article fails to mention that the %80 in the study's computer model also practiced social distancing which works better than masks
And their assumptions include expecting the masks to provide 70% blocking of all virus particles (inhale and exhale). No masks, especially
Not homemade masks, provide that sort of protection. N95 only filter inhale and surgical masks only filter exhale. You'd have to wear both
To achieve what the study calls for you'd have to wear 2 medical grade masks, one over the other
garulfos
Hey, a new contradictory study that just goes to show that the information made available is mostly shit. Smells like rabbit out here
yinkum326
Thought this was from pornhub
OaksParcel
If 80% of people starting taking this seriously I'd honestly probably cum a little.
michomiguel
Me too!
pareidoliaperson
Coronavirus flashing in public.
danceswithkittons
Might, just might be watching too much porn there guy.
in70x
Lmfao damn same
alwaysputyourdickinit
ImGoingToThatSpecialHell
Me too, friend.
Mharpster666
me too man. me too.
moldybiscuit
Same
lvsv
Yes omg. Also they talk about America but that’s a pic in Milan I’m pretty sure hahaha
SirBardex
Yes, it is a pic from Piazza Duomo ?
trojaSpaceBandit
Yep
FallenBlossomss
Wutcha doin later? ;)
brownribbon
Watchin’ pornhub. You?
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
His stepsister.
AzgarOgly
That's the central square of Milano, it would be quite inconvenient to film porn there.
sciencebasedlifeform
Hold my beer
fbutt09
Or quite epic
Why it is inconvenient to make love on a town square? Too many people come to advise.
echoingwhisper
Color scheme get ya?
JeffJr
I was expecting more free premium.
blancomeow
Yep...
Thebrassbell
Me and my fiance put on our masks and went to the store... people laughed and snickered... we were the only ones wearing a mask in the store
Animorphs
Yup. I have same experience going out in WA. It's ridiculous.
Saiint
See it's the opposite here, if you don't have a mask you get shunned into the corner and scowled at. Don't be that person, wear a mask.
spaceystacey
I explain I work in healthcare and I am wearing it for their safety since I could be an asymptomatic carrier. They shut right up.
Calicoastin818
You’re surrounded by morons
In PA you need to wear one to be in public or you’re fined 500 dollars
natebitatibetan
Well, you're the smart one. They won't be laughing in the ICU
Hezaethox
You should have told them you have the virus, took off the mask, then coughed like crazy and put it back on.
wayham22
Weird. Here in Utah they aren't required but most people are wearing them anyway.
texasinja1718
Probably doesn’t help that you wore nothing but a mask
Mediathug
You guys should get your food somewhere else, eww.
Fatneilandtheswordofdukane
Thank you
DouglasPouchOfHolding
Thank you for dealing with fuckwits so we can survive.
Ineedamorecreativeusernamethanusual
Most people wear masks in the big city I live in
mydailydoseofantidepressantsisyourbooty
My southern town has mandated mask wearing or it’s a $500 fine for the person and the business for each person. Everyone is wearing them.
xoverthirtyx
My old man in FL said he’s planning on a haircut this week & not one person in Outback Steakhouse wore a mask except servers. :/
penzick
My FiL lives in Florida. He said about covid: "We don't have that down here." He's in his 80s. We can't get it through his head.
I have of family near the Florida line. It’s crazy, but we aren’t too surprised by Florida doing it. Their legislator is all over the place
OneUpperSteve
Where do you live? Yikes, I could wear assless chaps and might get a giggle.
NeuroticNailBiter
What state are you in? In WA if you don’t wear one in stores you’re weird
periwinklepanda
Can concur
In NJ if you don't wear one you're SOL. They won't let you enter.
Wooow interesting. It’s so different, state by state
DocEternal
Colorado retail store manager here. I’d say 40% of our customers are wearing them. But at least we are doing curbside only to prevent too ->
Many people from showing up at once.
gradeD
No shit?? What state?
pointsForNothing
Germany here. People become aggressive If you try to enter a super market without a mask. Feel a bit proud for us.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
I’m in the US and most everyone I see is wearing a mask
America here; apparently you can get shot just for suggesting it. I weep for my country.
BwianOfNazareth
1/2 True, but just 3 weeks ago I had an experience similar to OPs in a German supermarket. Also, my son, a 4th grader, will be forced to
2/2 sit in class with no mask and windows shut for 6 hours from Monday. Not proud of this - a 2nd wave is just ahead.
teapartyyy
Just remember to handle them properly.
mascotkelly
That's when you start coughing
SaltyEsq
I still see this in Washington. No masks and no gloves on over 80% of people I see.
KeyLimeAnxiety
I’m in Chicago and everyone worse masks before it was required.
mydisciplesarelegion
You can return the laughs at their funerals.
TheFishFace
Masks are to protect others, not yourself
tinybluedot5
Unfortunately wearing a regular mask won’t protect you. Each person is protected by other people wearing them (and thus not spreading covid)
stardewvalley28
At my store a lot of customers are wearing masks.. at a sister store 10km away no one wears them.
Illithidbane
Michigan here. Most were wearing masks when I went to the store. But they also made arrows on the floor, one-way aisles. No one cared at all
joebuck123
Sounds like my local Meijer, masks are mandatory, common sense not so much.
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Amtherion
It's because masks are common sense. One way aisles are just health "theater". Going 20 feet up an aisle for something is less exposure
Than going 50 ft up a different aisle to go 30ft back down the right one. 20ft vs 80ft and the number of extra people you might encounter.
The idea is that it prevents people walking past each other in narrow aisles. It helps with distancing... which shoppers also ignored.
I get the idea, but everything says 6ft for 10-15 minutes is what close contact counts as. So in general I want in/out as fast as possible.
Passing another person in either direction or someone taking 5 minutes to decide which Ragu they want is only about 5-10 seconds.
steve9001
Don't understand the no selling seeds there. Can't figure how that's connected to covid.
People are taking the downtime to do gardening and they're walking around in stores looking for supplies. It's nonessential shopping.
iamthisguy247
My wife said the grocery stores here (Ontario), seemed to go from 1/3 masks to like 2/3. But that’s only based off one store, maybe 3 trips.
You must live in a red state.
shponglefan
Where I live, masks are starting to become the norm. Nobody even looks at me funny for wearing a P100 respirator while shopping.
Imstilldanifromthebloch
Where do you live? Everyone I know wears masks...
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
My ex laughs at them, tried to lecture me on why it's better since it solves overpopulation. Needless to say, I'm not talking to her anymore
StuckInBetweeen
... Well that's a huge red flag, on the verge of sociopathic. Good thing she's an ex.
Yea, was ok with her saying she didn't want kids so we wouldn't contribute to overpopulation,it's incorrect but whatevs,but that was too far
PoorBoyChevelle
Anyone genuinely concerned with overpopulation should lead from the front and drown themselves
I tried to explain to her how mass deaths would actually be worse for overpopulation in the long run bc it doesn't actually fix the (1)
(2) societal issues that causes overpopulation in the first place. She said I was sensationalizing bc I went to college.
TehDude333
Same.
Dingmeatgroup
Same, I was laughed and pointed at last week.
chazahc
We have a big butcher shop nearby - it caters to hunters and generally the big truck crowd. The staff wears bitchen flag and eagle masks.
IndefinetelyTired
My wife made my dad one thats pink and has pineapples on it. He's big and scary. And he loved it
HaberdasherInGold
Rock on. The “face scarves” may not be as effective as filtered masks, but every bit helps. I hope they become more popular.
Wootnessmonster
I want to believe most people just can't find them due to availability but they're probably just assholes knowing Americans.
Chrispybobispy
I mean if you know someone with a sewing machine, theh can probably hook yoh up
I was just thinking, if any service I had to go to needed masks, last thing I want is to have to try and find some.
I have a respirator I use for dust and attics but that's a little rediculouse.
MechaNinja
My wife ordered some that we've never gotten. She bought some real shitty ones from our local grocery store. I dunno they're any use.
Literally almost any multi-layer face covering reduces your transmissibility which is HUGE. Please use them for _others_. The care shows.
Even if I'm not sick? I mean I'm super depressed, but that's from getting laid off like 20 minutes before this all started.
Bahbawhitesheep
I found my first box of 10 cloth ones for $15 bucks yesterday. They’re scarce in some areas for sure.
I've been able to purchase one box that isn't sawing my ears off so far but wear them every day, coworkers can't understand how but GD lol
coop61gt
I ordered masks 2 weeks ago and I'm still waiting.
If I hadn't had a couple in my emergency kit and a couple provided by family I wouldn't have had enough to rotate so I get it for sure.
MrTay
It took me 30 days to get some still waiting for most. I am supplying my employees with multiple so they can rotate them. Hard to find
Completely understand! Thanks for trying though! No /s meant. Thank you for trying to keep _everyone_ safe and hopefully allowing their own
I got them in time luckily but a lot didn’t and can’t. I think more people will use them when they become fashionable and available
I don't think compliance will increase until it becomes a requirement as availability (hopefully) increases unfortunately
And bad face coverings abound you can spot them covering for the convenience
in order to go into my store or me to go to a vendor you must wear a mask. I think that’s going to be the requirement when more open. 1/
Go figure that behaving like a decent human is all it will take to end this shit but "we're" completely unwilling to change behavior for 1yr
Unpopular opinion but it makes me want to say just reopen and let the carnage happen, people will not unfuck themselves otherwise and no end
nudes4jesus
the carnage will happen a lot to the medical personnel that aren't responsible for these morons. that's the issue. if we could just have the
morons go off and die from it on their own, sure. we'd have a lot less people in our country arguing with science
Chakra5
Same thinking that brought us president trump ...how's that one working for ya? This would work just about as well.
Then i would say the dems have prevented it burning to the ground for their own benefit. Neither think I'm human like them.
TheEvenPrez
That's one thing I always wanted to ask various Europeans. Ideologically, how diverse is your nation?
fartfactory87
We are a good mix of little shits and good people. Usa is a disgrace compared to us. I'm Italian
How'd that "Hug a Chinese Person" thing work out?
The what?
We have free health care for starters, we might be racist in some areas but nothing compared to America. We know where Korea is on a map.
We do have mafia indeed but we don't have white people with guns around, we have people with masks.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Very diverse. But we lack that anti-science, anti-common sense faction whose agenda it is to simply be as evil as possible. Everyone can ...
at least agree on some basic concepts of reality, such as the fact that science usually works, and nobody wants to straight up kill the poor
Ruflbot
We have some idiots here in Europe. Noticeably fewer, but still. At least from what I can compare from postings on this site and the news.
totallynanners
Scientology centers exist there right? Wouldn't say the entire population has common sense then.
Can I get an example? Like what what's a common point of contention?
Hutchy01
As a Briton, it's Europe.
Protection of data privacy is a big issue. The big German parties are pro-electronic patient records, tough on piracy etc. while smaller ...
parties are pro-privacy. Energy policy is another point. The anti-nuclear scare has been very counterproductive to lowering CO2 since ...
renewable energy only goes so far, despite heavy investments. So we've recently built coal power plants after dismantling nuclear plants, …
Rhewin
I literally know people who insisted on wearing masks back when CDC asked people not to to prevent shortage. Now they refuse to wear one.
makingthingsthatareimportant
Tell them not to wear them
So go back to saying not to wear them? Get some celebrities to do “don’t wear them” PSAs, but get caught “hypocritically” wearing them.
HornyPolice
Contrarian
mikeatike
No I am not!
Dankking
Now there’s trump luvin propaganda out there that says they’re bad!!!!
Which made perfect sense at the time. Every health professional suddenly needed more of them, but public demand zapped resources. Now >
that we have time to plan and for production to close the gap with command, it makes more sense for every one to wear them. <>
atomfixes101
I just got back from getting tested, 6 of 10 people waiting in line had no masks.
Wombatish
CoViD has been revised to stand for Contrarian Violent Dumbassery.
HollyRex
I know someone who complained because it made it hard for her to breathe when she ran into Chipotle for food. :/
She was one of the ones sewing them for hospital workers when this began. Now she’s posting opinion pieces on why we should re-open.
zarola1
Same ones who saw articles about toliet paper and hoarded it.
A lot of people seem to base their lives off going deliberately against what the President's people advise.
daugbret
Everyone in my town wore masks day 1. When the governor said we should start wearing them, oops where'd the masks go?
sadurdaynight
(no mask required) N95 all the things! (mask now required) fuckin MAKE ME!
Fatbird
I thought it was contrarian behavior, but really people never liked it in the first place. They just did it because they thought it was a 1/
slight inconvenience. But now it's an inconvenience that they have to think about every day, and people are tired of muffled voices and 2/
awkward breathing. It's stupid, yes, because having the virus is *way more inconvenient*, but people just don't want to wear masks.
‘Don’t try to tell me what to do!’ - some Karen, probably
RandyRandalman
Saw some 50+ overweight men shake hands with no masks and what looked like family with them. No words left to describe the sheer ignorance.
50+ years old*
Everythingisracist
I work in a doctors' office, so many of the staff wear masks wrong or complain. Mostly the people that didn't get flu shots or what you said
MyCatLikesToFruitcake
As a cashier I've been told: "I can't breathe" "Its uncomfortable" "I can't talk" "BuT tHe cO2s!!1" "Your mask is stupid." "Big pharma" etc.
MarxAvenger
https://imgur.com/RN8IpUF
If you favorite it you can post the image inline.
https://imgur.com/7KwOeZL
Nothing works on mobile.
Does it work now?
LongWayFromLongWaySince
Science validated it. Thus... they had to fight it.
Ifacatsbuttholeisonly2inchesoffthegroundwhyisitalwaysateyelevel
Have you reminded them how tik tok'd they are?
Ihatedecidingonausername
Remember when Imgur was against masks on healthy people because they don't help?
*Sigh* you just don’t get it do you? They don’t help protect you. They protect others. Because of a massive shortage people needed to >
Stop buying them en masse to leave them for the sick and medical workers. But ppl kept doing it because they thought a surgical mask >
Would save them. Now CDC is asking people to cover their faces. We now know just easy it is to spread without symptoms, so to stop you >
From potentially getting other people sick, you should wear a face cover. Note I said face cover, not limited to masks.
jm151
because too many people think "freedom" means the knee-jerk defiant behavior of a toddler
HairyBallzonya
I say let them, but they have to get a tattoo on their hand and are only allowed certain places to isolate their group
stankginchfurbuger
All the privilege, none of the responsibility. Freedom condo as they please without considering the wider implications. Child-like
Hah that's funny and sad, because plausible
ItsMorphinTimeIdiot
Yeah, the whole my right as an American thing is pretty bastardized
it's like all freedom means to them is yelling "you're not the boss of me" at anyone and everyone.
MeowMachine12
Right, even when said people being yelled at are literally just trying to keep them safe and keep others safe
Except their actual bosses at work. They bend over backwards to lick those guys boots
Neoeon
Novelty wore off.
kmikl
They're contrarian assholes.
I would take that over their actual reasons. “They (CDC) were wrong about not wearing them so they’re probably wrong about wearing them.”
Djayy
That sentence makes no logical sense, I hope your friends know that.
I wouldn’t call them friends, but they’re amazingly unaware.
That might be just as dumb.
It comes down to an arbitrary total distrust of anything the government says.
ExecutorHideo
Unless of course, Trump says it, because "Hes awenest, and he aint no cuhrupt pahluthishun!"
And a deep seated confusion about what "the government" is. CDC is not the government and does not deserve distrust
Well, to be fair, I wouldnt trust a politician if they said oxygen was essential for breathing. I think it has to do with all the lying.
The CDC is not a political entity.
amp99
Reverse psychology might be the key. Google should sent adverts to everyone who watches COVID-19 conspiracy videos telling them the... 1/2
CDC advises everyone should go out and not wear masks. 2/2
TrojanGiraffe
Tell them its the russians and chinese lying to get americans to die
WhistlinDickC
But that's actually true, so they won't believe it.
I’m officially jaded enough to think this might work.
Datdudez
Might be on to something. Tell them Obama wants to them not to wear masks so he can take their guns when they die.
MCNewYorkLives
Wait, what? They want us outside without masks?! NOT ON MY WATCH BUDDY! I'm staying inside and wearing a mask constantly now!
But maybe they know I know I’m onto them so they gonna try and trick me by using me against me!!! Trump 2020 yeehaa fuck my sister.
A R 15 fredom
More power to you, man, tell your Facebook group too. Stick it to those science fricks!
hitthatbomb
Term Limits, Recycling, Convert to solar, campaign finance reform... Lotta things over 80% but don’t happen
davenportmb
I doubt 80% of Americans support any of those things.
cepacolusmaximus
Damn Excellent Summarization.
Porfirij
there's a reason for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig
ViolentlyOfferingBeerToSheep
i wanna do solar but i also don't have the money for it, area to put it, nor the jumper cables or son necessary to put it up.
HodgePodgekin
If solar companies would stop operating like used car salesmen with hidden fees and timeshare-like tactics, it might take off.
RealFuckinNeeto
Sauce me daddy
Online reviews for any solar company, except MAYBE Tesla Solar. Yelp is a delicious start.
Here’s one example - https://yelp.to/qTKq/DrtGnnBdm6
I can say I was raped by the pizza delivery guy on yelp doesn’t make it true
But you still got pizza, right?
rainehdaze
Term limits would just empower. When you habitually remove the people who know how anything works the newcomers need advice from SOMEWHERE.
digitiliad
So don't remove the people who are definitely influenced because new people might be influenced.
And don't forget that because they're term limited they're ALSO even more open to becoming lobbyists or finding short term gains
WILL be influenced. And susceptible, because they have no experience. Which they have to get from sources that have no limits: lobbyists
No, it's still "might". You're still arguing that things that already happen are the primary reason we shouldn't change, just assuming
they'll happen more without any basis for the assumption.
psychologisttheologist
Part of the problem is that we don't like how things work at the moment anyway. New people might behave differently. Also, incumbency is a
Very difficult thing to overcome, almost guaranteeing reelection. If there are term limits, people are less motivated to pander to the base
For reelection and are more willing to act on principle in bipartisan ways. There was a time when people routinely voted across party lines.
If you weaken the power of an elected position (via lack of experience, networks, a record etc.) then unelected positions get stronger to1/2
compensate. Far from increasing democratic choice (because in many places the party vote is too strong anyway) it weakens democracy.
Frankly I think decisions should be made by those closest to the consequences. The more local, the better. I don't mind weakening the power
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AsianLeprechaun
I'm sure 80% of Americans want to get more sleep.
Ogre6
The only 80% I want is an 80% lower receiver
puffyjacket69
Unfortunately the president and fox news made listening to science and facts partisan...
jbcars4life
If 80% of Americans voted...well one can dream right
temperedtorture
80% of Americans supported Bush after 9/11 and it killed millions of people as a result.
MajorTom0101
Perspective is funny, I'm sitting here in rural canada going, "you guys are wearing masks?"
heartybeefandpotato
If 64.3% of statistics weren't arbitrarily made up, i'd have toilet paper.
AdamGenesis
Wife and I ran errands today, we both have face masks. Only saw 40% wearing masks. Others just acting like everything's normal.
FlissFloss86Gaming
It's tough getting everyone on the same page when our most popular "news" network is straight propaganda
TheFastpaws
Never going to happen as a majority of America liked to band together to be morons in large groups.
SamsonSuperSlug
This site shares the same colour scheme as porn hub. Don't act like you didn't notice.
RexNihil
Tell them the mask prevents facial recognition technology from identifying them via bird-cam.
TCooley79
Sadly this could actually work
folkscallmehi
DownUnderAussie
Ha ha ha, and blocks 5G technology....
betterunsaid
In Georgia been to three restaurants without even a single worker wearing a mask. And their dining rooms are open. Smh
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
It’s gotta be an interesting break down by state. I’m in Vermont and in stores and things I see maybe 2 people not wearing masks.
DogsandPandas
And by city too. Where I live its required that all employees and patrons have a mask on. I’m sure other cities don’t enforce that.
DogsandPandas
The business also has to have a designated person monitoring masks are on and social distancing or could lose their license.
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
TN mask usage plummeted recently. In my recent grocery trips at least 60% of shoppers weren’t wearing masks.
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
It’s like when the state opened up people took it as the all clear. I just passed the mall and it’s hopping.
VikingZoidberg
Yeah here in Norway poeple don't wear masks. Reccomended that people not use them, because most will not use them correctly...
VikingZoidberg
...touch their face more etc. which makes them pointless and wasting resources, or even contribute to more spreading the virus more...
VikingZoidberg
...the focus here has been on more effective means on stopping the spread
steikewaffel
Source? Because this smells like BS.
Pulsar1975
And why did they choose a pic of Milan Galleria for this article?
RIPDayRoot
I'm the only one wearing a mask at work. I told them it made me feel better about the virus. Sad I had to defend myself
glaug
With a gun, or..?
RIPDayRoot
Defend myself from the judgment of others for wearing a mask
glaug
Ah, a knife, then.
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
Does anyone have the source study?
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
Found the link in the vanity Fair article. The article itself left out that the study included social distancing and their assumptions
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
On how good masks work are extremely optimistic when compared to other recent studies. (70% blockage of both inhaled and exhaled particles)
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
The only way to get that high of blockage of both inhaled and exhaled particles is to wear an N95 AND and surgical mask at the same time.
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764367/effectiveness-surgical-cotton-masks-blocking-sars-cov-2-controlled-comparison
sparky2212
Just tell them Obama agrees with not wearing a mask.
anengineerandacat
If 80% of any cultural group wanted to do anything I would be amazed. Let's not pretend that US citizens are the only ones wanting to work.
bohemiancrabcity
Greatest Korea has 100% of citizens wanting to do the same thing.
heartsfarts
You can work while wearing a mask, I'm not sure what one has to do with another
ridge
It certainly depends on the mask. I have one my work gave me, and it's hard to breathe through, and every exhale fogs up my glasses.
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
The article fails to mention that the %80 in the study's computer model also practiced social distancing which works better than masks
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
And their assumptions include expecting the masks to provide 70% blocking of all virus particles (inhale and exhale). No masks, especially
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
Not homemade masks, provide that sort of protection. N95 only filter inhale and surgical masks only filter exhale. You'd have to wear both
TempletonFerrariThe3rd
To achieve what the study calls for you'd have to wear 2 medical grade masks, one over the other
garulfos
Hey, a new contradictory study that just goes to show that the information made available is mostly shit. Smells like rabbit out here
yinkum326
Thought this was from pornhub
OaksParcel
If 80% of people starting taking this seriously I'd honestly probably cum a little.
michomiguel
Me too!
pareidoliaperson
Coronavirus flashing in public.
danceswithkittons
Might, just might be watching too much porn there guy.
in70x
Lmfao damn same
alwaysputyourdickinit
ImGoingToThatSpecialHell
Me too, friend.
Mharpster666
me too man. me too.
moldybiscuit
Same
lvsv
Yes omg. Also they talk about America but that’s a pic in Milan I’m pretty sure hahaha
SirBardex
Yes, it is a pic from Piazza Duomo ?
trojaSpaceBandit
Yep
FallenBlossomss
Wutcha doin later? ;)
brownribbon
Watchin’ pornhub. You?
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
His stepsister.
AzgarOgly
That's the central square of Milano, it would be quite inconvenient to film porn there.
sciencebasedlifeform
Hold my beer
fbutt09
Or quite epic
AzgarOgly
Why it is inconvenient to make love on a town square? Too many people come to advise.
echoingwhisper
Color scheme get ya?
JeffJr
I was expecting more free premium.
blancomeow
Yep...
Thebrassbell
Me and my fiance put on our masks and went to the store... people laughed and snickered... we were the only ones wearing a mask in the store
Animorphs
Yup. I have same experience going out in WA. It's ridiculous.
Saiint
See it's the opposite here, if you don't have a mask you get shunned into the corner and scowled at. Don't be that person, wear a mask.
spaceystacey
I explain I work in healthcare and I am wearing it for their safety since I could be an asymptomatic carrier. They shut right up.
Calicoastin818
You’re surrounded by morons
in70x
In PA you need to wear one to be in public or you’re fined 500 dollars
natebitatibetan
Well, you're the smart one. They won't be laughing in the ICU
Hezaethox
You should have told them you have the virus, took off the mask, then coughed like crazy and put it back on.
wayham22
Weird. Here in Utah they aren't required but most people are wearing them anyway.
texasinja1718
Probably doesn’t help that you wore nothing but a mask
Mediathug
You guys should get your food somewhere else, eww.
Fatneilandtheswordofdukane
Thank you
DouglasPouchOfHolding
Thank you for dealing with fuckwits so we can survive.
Ineedamorecreativeusernamethanusual
Most people wear masks in the big city I live in
mydailydoseofantidepressantsisyourbooty
My southern town has mandated mask wearing or it’s a $500 fine for the person and the business for each person. Everyone is wearing them.
xoverthirtyx
My old man in FL said he’s planning on a haircut this week & not one person in Outback Steakhouse wore a mask except servers. :/
penzick
My FiL lives in Florida. He said about covid: "We don't have that down here." He's in his 80s. We can't get it through his head.
mydailydoseofantidepressantsisyourbooty
I have of family near the Florida line. It’s crazy, but we aren’t too surprised by Florida doing it. Their legislator is all over the place
OneUpperSteve
Where do you live? Yikes, I could wear assless chaps and might get a giggle.
NeuroticNailBiter
What state are you in? In WA if you don’t wear one in stores you’re weird
periwinklepanda
Can concur
penzick
In NJ if you don't wear one you're SOL. They won't let you enter.
NeuroticNailBiter
Wooow interesting. It’s so different, state by state
DocEternal
Colorado retail store manager here. I’d say 40% of our customers are wearing them. But at least we are doing curbside only to prevent too ->
DocEternal
Many people from showing up at once.
gradeD
No shit?? What state?
pointsForNothing
Germany here. People become aggressive If you try to enter a super market without a mask. Feel a bit proud for us.
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
I’m in the US and most everyone I see is wearing a mask
DocEternal
America here; apparently you can get shot just for suggesting it. I weep for my country.
BwianOfNazareth
1/2 True, but just 3 weeks ago I had an experience similar to OPs in a German supermarket. Also, my son, a 4th grader, will be forced to
BwianOfNazareth
2/2 sit in class with no mask and windows shut for 6 hours from Monday. Not proud of this - a 2nd wave is just ahead.
teapartyyy
Just remember to handle them properly.
mascotkelly
That's when you start coughing
SaltyEsq
I still see this in Washington. No masks and no gloves on over 80% of people I see.
KeyLimeAnxiety
I’m in Chicago and everyone worse masks before it was required.
mydisciplesarelegion
You can return the laughs at their funerals.
TheFishFace
Masks are to protect others, not yourself
tinybluedot5
Unfortunately wearing a regular mask won’t protect you. Each person is protected by other people wearing them (and thus not spreading covid)
stardewvalley28
At my store a lot of customers are wearing masks.. at a sister store 10km away no one wears them.
Illithidbane
Michigan here. Most were wearing masks when I went to the store. But they also made arrows on the floor, one-way aisles. No one cared at all
joebuck123
Sounds like my local Meijer, masks are mandatory, common sense not so much.
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Amtherion
It's because masks are common sense. One way aisles are just health "theater". Going 20 feet up an aisle for something is less exposure
Amtherion
Than going 50 ft up a different aisle to go 30ft back down the right one. 20ft vs 80ft and the number of extra people you might encounter.
Illithidbane
The idea is that it prevents people walking past each other in narrow aisles. It helps with distancing... which shoppers also ignored.
Amtherion
I get the idea, but everything says 6ft for 10-15 minutes is what close contact counts as. So in general I want in/out as fast as possible.
Amtherion
Passing another person in either direction or someone taking 5 minutes to decide which Ragu they want is only about 5-10 seconds.
steve9001
Don't understand the no selling seeds there. Can't figure how that's connected to covid.
Illithidbane
People are taking the downtime to do gardening and they're walking around in stores looking for supplies. It's nonessential shopping.
iamthisguy247
My wife said the grocery stores here (Ontario), seemed to go from 1/3 masks to like 2/3. But that’s only based off one store, maybe 3 trips.
AdamGenesis
You must live in a red state.
shponglefan
Where I live, masks are starting to become the norm. Nobody even looks at me funny for wearing a P100 respirator while shopping.
Imstilldanifromthebloch
Where do you live? Everyone I know wears masks...
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
My ex laughs at them, tried to lecture me on why it's better since it solves overpopulation. Needless to say, I'm not talking to her anymore
StuckInBetweeen
... Well that's a huge red flag, on the verge of sociopathic. Good thing she's an ex.
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
Yea, was ok with her saying she didn't want kids so we wouldn't contribute to overpopulation,it's incorrect but whatevs,but that was too far
PoorBoyChevelle
Anyone genuinely concerned with overpopulation should lead from the front and drown themselves
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
I tried to explain to her how mass deaths would actually be worse for overpopulation in the long run bc it doesn't actually fix the (1)
youknowthatonepersonwiththeface
(2) societal issues that causes overpopulation in the first place. She said I was sensationalizing bc I went to college.
TehDude333
Same.
Dingmeatgroup
Same, I was laughed and pointed at last week.
chazahc
We have a big butcher shop nearby - it caters to hunters and generally the big truck crowd. The staff wears bitchen flag and eagle masks.
IndefinetelyTired
My wife made my dad one thats pink and has pineapples on it. He's big and scary. And he loved it
HaberdasherInGold
Rock on. The “face scarves” may not be as effective as filtered masks, but every bit helps. I hope they become more popular.
Wootnessmonster
I want to believe most people just can't find them due to availability but they're probably just assholes knowing Americans.
Chrispybobispy
I mean if you know someone with a sewing machine, theh can probably hook yoh up
MajorTom0101
I was just thinking, if any service I had to go to needed masks, last thing I want is to have to try and find some.
MajorTom0101
I have a respirator I use for dust and attics but that's a little rediculouse.
MechaNinja
My wife ordered some that we've never gotten. She bought some real shitty ones from our local grocery store. I dunno they're any use.
Wootnessmonster
Literally almost any multi-layer face covering reduces your transmissibility which is HUGE. Please use them for _others_. The care shows.
MechaNinja
Even if I'm not sick? I mean I'm super depressed, but that's from getting laid off like 20 minutes before this all started.
Bahbawhitesheep
I found my first box of 10 cloth ones for $15 bucks yesterday. They’re scarce in some areas for sure.
Wootnessmonster
I've been able to purchase one box that isn't sawing my ears off so far but wear them every day, coworkers can't understand how but GD lol
coop61gt
I ordered masks 2 weeks ago and I'm still waiting.
Wootnessmonster
If I hadn't had a couple in my emergency kit and a couple provided by family I wouldn't have had enough to rotate so I get it for sure.
MrTay
It took me 30 days to get some still waiting for most. I am supplying my employees with multiple so they can rotate them. Hard to find
Wootnessmonster
Completely understand! Thanks for trying though! No /s meant. Thank you for trying to keep _everyone_ safe and hopefully allowing their own
MrTay
I got them in time luckily but a lot didn’t and can’t. I think more people will use them when they become fashionable and available
Wootnessmonster
I don't think compliance will increase until it becomes a requirement as availability (hopefully) increases unfortunately
Wootnessmonster
And bad face coverings abound you can spot them covering for the convenience
MrTay
in order to go into my store or me to go to a vendor you must wear a mask. I think that’s going to be the requirement when more open. 1/
Wootnessmonster
Go figure that behaving like a decent human is all it will take to end this shit but "we're" completely unwilling to change behavior for 1yr
Wootnessmonster
Unpopular opinion but it makes me want to say just reopen and let the carnage happen, people will not unfuck themselves otherwise and no end
nudes4jesus
the carnage will happen a lot to the medical personnel that aren't responsible for these morons. that's the issue. if we could just have the
nudes4jesus
morons go off and die from it on their own, sure. we'd have a lot less people in our country arguing with science
Chakra5
Same thinking that brought us president trump ...how's that one working for ya? This would work just about as well.
Wootnessmonster
Then i would say the dems have prevented it burning to the ground for their own benefit. Neither think I'm human like them.
TheEvenPrez
That's one thing I always wanted to ask various Europeans. Ideologically, how diverse is your nation?
fartfactory87
We are a good mix of little shits and good people. Usa is a disgrace compared to us. I'm Italian
ridge
How'd that "Hug a Chinese Person" thing work out?
fartfactory87
The what?
fartfactory87
We have free health care for starters, we might be racist in some areas but nothing compared to America. We know where Korea is on a map.
fartfactory87
We do have mafia indeed but we don't have white people with guns around, we have people with masks.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Very diverse. But we lack that anti-science, anti-common sense faction whose agenda it is to simply be as evil as possible. Everyone can ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
at least agree on some basic concepts of reality, such as the fact that science usually works, and nobody wants to straight up kill the poor
Ruflbot
We have some idiots here in Europe. Noticeably fewer, but still. At least from what I can compare from postings on this site and the news.
totallynanners
Scientology centers exist there right? Wouldn't say the entire population has common sense then.
TheEvenPrez
Can I get an example? Like what what's a common point of contention?
Hutchy01
As a Briton, it's Europe.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Protection of data privacy is a big issue. The big German parties are pro-electronic patient records, tough on piracy etc. while smaller ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
parties are pro-privacy. Energy policy is another point. The anti-nuclear scare has been very counterproductive to lowering CO2 since ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
renewable energy only goes so far, despite heavy investments. So we've recently built coal power plants after dismantling nuclear plants, …
Rhewin
I literally know people who insisted on wearing masks back when CDC asked people not to to prevent shortage. Now they refuse to wear one.
makingthingsthatareimportant
Tell them not to wear them
iamthisguy247
So go back to saying not to wear them? Get some celebrities to do “don’t wear them” PSAs, but get caught “hypocritically” wearing them.
HornyPolice
Contrarian
mikeatike
No I am not!
Dankking
Now there’s trump luvin propaganda out there that says they’re bad!!!!
HaberdasherInGold
Which made perfect sense at the time. Every health professional suddenly needed more of them, but public demand zapped resources. Now >
HaberdasherInGold
that we have time to plan and for production to close the gap with command, it makes more sense for every one to wear them. <>
atomfixes101
I just got back from getting tested, 6 of 10 people waiting in line had no masks.
Wombatish
CoViD has been revised to stand for Contrarian Violent Dumbassery.
HollyRex
I know someone who complained because it made it hard for her to breathe when she ran into Chipotle for food. :/
HollyRex
She was one of the ones sewing them for hospital workers when this began. Now she’s posting opinion pieces on why we should re-open.
zarola1
Same ones who saw articles about toliet paper and hoarded it.
ridge
A lot of people seem to base their lives off going deliberately against what the President's people advise.
daugbret
Everyone in my town wore masks day 1. When the governor said we should start wearing them, oops where'd the masks go?
sadurdaynight
(no mask required) N95 all the things! (mask now required) fuckin MAKE ME!
Fatbird
I thought it was contrarian behavior, but really people never liked it in the first place. They just did it because they thought it was a 1/
Fatbird
slight inconvenience. But now it's an inconvenience that they have to think about every day, and people are tired of muffled voices and 2/
Fatbird
awkward breathing. It's stupid, yes, because having the virus is *way more inconvenient*, but people just don't want to wear masks.
TCooley79
‘Don’t try to tell me what to do!’ - some Karen, probably
RandyRandalman
Saw some 50+ overweight men shake hands with no masks and what looked like family with them. No words left to describe the sheer ignorance.
RandyRandalman
50+ years old*
Everythingisracist
I work in a doctors' office, so many of the staff wear masks wrong or complain. Mostly the people that didn't get flu shots or what you said
MyCatLikesToFruitcake
As a cashier I've been told: "I can't breathe" "Its uncomfortable" "I can't talk" "BuT tHe cO2s!!1" "Your mask is stupid." "Big pharma" etc.
MarxAvenger
https://imgur.com/RN8IpUF
Rhewin
MarxAvenger
https://imgur.com/7KwOeZL
Rhewin
MarxAvenger
Does it work now?
LongWayFromLongWaySince
Science validated it. Thus... they had to fight it.
Ifacatsbuttholeisonly2inchesoffthegroundwhyisitalwaysateyelevel
Have you reminded them how tik tok'd they are?
Ihatedecidingonausername
Remember when Imgur was against masks on healthy people because they don't help?
Rhewin
*Sigh* you just don’t get it do you? They don’t help protect you. They protect others. Because of a massive shortage people needed to >
Rhewin
Stop buying them en masse to leave them for the sick and medical workers. But ppl kept doing it because they thought a surgical mask >
Rhewin
Would save them. Now CDC is asking people to cover their faces. We now know just easy it is to spread without symptoms, so to stop you >
Rhewin
From potentially getting other people sick, you should wear a face cover. Note I said face cover, not limited to masks.
jm151
because too many people think "freedom" means the knee-jerk defiant behavior of a toddler
HairyBallzonya
I say let them, but they have to get a tattoo on their hand and are only allowed certain places to isolate their group
stankginchfurbuger
All the privilege, none of the responsibility. Freedom condo as they please without considering the wider implications. Child-like
gradeD
Hah that's funny and sad, because plausible
TCooley79
ItsMorphinTimeIdiot
Yeah, the whole my right as an American thing is pretty bastardized
jm151
it's like all freedom means to them is yelling "you're not the boss of me" at anyone and everyone.
MeowMachine12
Right, even when said people being yelled at are literally just trying to keep them safe and keep others safe
stankginchfurbuger
Except their actual bosses at work. They bend over backwards to lick those guys boots
Neoeon
Novelty wore off.
kmikl
They're contrarian assholes.
Rhewin
I would take that over their actual reasons. “They (CDC) were wrong about not wearing them so they’re probably wrong about wearing them.”
Djayy
That sentence makes no logical sense, I hope your friends know that.
Rhewin
I wouldn’t call them friends, but they’re amazingly unaware.
mikeatike
That might be just as dumb.
Rhewin
It comes down to an arbitrary total distrust of anything the government says.
ExecutorHideo
Unless of course, Trump says it, because "Hes awenest, and he aint no cuhrupt pahluthishun!"
stankginchfurbuger
And a deep seated confusion about what "the government" is. CDC is not the government and does not deserve distrust
Neoeon
Well, to be fair, I wouldnt trust a politician if they said oxygen was essential for breathing. I think it has to do with all the lying.
Rhewin
The CDC is not a political entity.
amp99
Reverse psychology might be the key. Google should sent adverts to everyone who watches COVID-19 conspiracy videos telling them the... 1/2
amp99
CDC advises everyone should go out and not wear masks. 2/2
TrojanGiraffe
Tell them its the russians and chinese lying to get americans to die
WhistlinDickC
But that's actually true, so they won't believe it.
Rhewin
I’m officially jaded enough to think this might work.
Datdudez
Might be on to something. Tell them Obama wants to them not to wear masks so he can take their guns when they die.
MCNewYorkLives
Wait, what? They want us outside without masks?! NOT ON MY WATCH BUDDY! I'm staying inside and wearing a mask constantly now!
Dankking
But maybe they know I know I’m onto them so they gonna try and trick me by using me against me!!! Trump 2020 yeehaa fuck my sister.
Dankking
A R 15 fredom
Rhewin
More power to you, man, tell your Facebook group too. Stick it to those science fricks!
hitthatbomb
Term Limits, Recycling, Convert to solar, campaign finance reform... Lotta things over 80% but don’t happen
davenportmb
I doubt 80% of Americans support any of those things.
cepacolusmaximus
Damn Excellent Summarization.
Porfirij
there's a reason for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig
ViolentlyOfferingBeerToSheep
i wanna do solar but i also don't have the money for it, area to put it, nor the jumper cables or son necessary to put it up.
HodgePodgekin
If solar companies would stop operating like used car salesmen with hidden fees and timeshare-like tactics, it might take off.
RealFuckinNeeto
Sauce me daddy
HodgePodgekin
Online reviews for any solar company, except MAYBE Tesla Solar. Yelp is a delicious start.
HodgePodgekin
Here’s one example - https://yelp.to/qTKq/DrtGnnBdm6
RealFuckinNeeto
I can say I was raped by the pizza delivery guy on yelp doesn’t make it true
HodgePodgekin
But you still got pizza, right?
rainehdaze
Term limits would just empower. When you habitually remove the people who know how anything works the newcomers need advice from SOMEWHERE.
digitiliad
So don't remove the people who are definitely influenced because new people might be influenced.
rainehdaze
And don't forget that because they're term limited they're ALSO even more open to becoming lobbyists or finding short term gains
rainehdaze
WILL be influenced. And susceptible, because they have no experience. Which they have to get from sources that have no limits: lobbyists
digitiliad
No, it's still "might". You're still arguing that things that already happen are the primary reason we shouldn't change, just assuming
digitiliad
they'll happen more without any basis for the assumption.
psychologisttheologist
Part of the problem is that we don't like how things work at the moment anyway. New people might behave differently. Also, incumbency is a
psychologisttheologist
Very difficult thing to overcome, almost guaranteeing reelection. If there are term limits, people are less motivated to pander to the base
psychologisttheologist
For reelection and are more willing to act on principle in bipartisan ways. There was a time when people routinely voted across party lines.
rainehdaze
If you weaken the power of an elected position (via lack of experience, networks, a record etc.) then unelected positions get stronger to1/2
rainehdaze
compensate. Far from increasing democratic choice (because in many places the party vote is too strong anyway) it weakens democracy.
psychologisttheologist
Frankly I think decisions should be made by those closest to the consequences. The more local, the better. I don't mind weakening the power