Because some of you might not know just how much of a sick bastard he is, I give you the story of Jared Fogle

Dec 9, 2016 5:40 PM

A preview; here's a snippet of text conversation between Jared and a Madam/"escort procurer"

Fogle: “Do you have any access to any young girls? Like 15 or 16?”

Procurer: “Why, baby?”

Fogle: “Cause it’s what I crave.”

Ok, generic warning time as usual. This is a LostCatWantedDeadAndAlive post, and like most of my posts, it's going to contain some provocative topics, but NO PROVOCATIVE PICTURES. In the past I have included crime scene photos that shed light on the people, usually serial killers, that I have covered. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to include them in this post. Also, as usual, if you see anything incorrect in the post, leave a comment or send me a PM and I will fix it and tag you in an edit.
Jared Fogle is known to most as "The Subway Guy"; that is until the end of 2015 when things took a very drastic turn. A prolonged FBI investigation, with the help of some of Jared's co-workers as informants wearing wires, uncovered that Jared Fogle was guilty of possession of and intent to distribute child pornography. He was also guilty of "travelling to pay for sex with minors".

Jared Fogle before his Subway Campaign

Jared's story starts when he was 22 years old and a student at Indiana University. During this time, Jared ate mostly "junk food" that generally consisted of fast food style meals of hamburgers, french fries, and other American drive-thru fare. Concerned about his weight (which at this point was around 425 pounds) Jared switched his diet from American-style hamburger food to Subway sandwiches with as few high calorie accouterments (such as mayonnaise) as possible. This diet eventually led to a stifling amount of weight loss, of which his former dorm-mate decided was worth writing about.

His article in the "Indiana Daily Student" drew the attention of Men's Health magazine, which drew the attention of Subway. This led to the invention of "The Subway Diet", a somewhat spurious affair considering Jared's weight loss was, in part, because of his exclusion of American "drive-thru" cuisine. Regardless, this role as the Spokesperson for Subway brought a lot of fame and fortune to the then 23 year old college graduate.

The mission statement from the now defunct "Jared Foundation"

As he continued to promote Subway as a healthy alternative to other styles of fast food, Jared and Subway decided to create "the Jared Foundation" with a partner named Russell Taylor. Together the two of them aimed to help combat obesity in young people.

Jared Fogle and Russell Taylor; founders of the "Jared Foundation"

This is where the trouble started for both Fogle, and for Taylor.

In late April/early May of 2015, police searched Taylor's home, working on the tip that Taylor had offered to text them pictures of minors engaging in adult activities. As has been discussed on imgur before, there are dogs trained to find, by scent, hidden thumb drives or external hard drives, and these dogs were used in the investigation into Taylor and into Fogle. A search warrant was performed at Russell's home, which uncovered a vast amount of child pornography; some of which was recorded himself.

Taylor and his wife had positioned hidden cameras in various places to record children nude; one such place was in a bathtub. Taylor claimed his wife was responsible for the placement of two of the cameras, as well as reviewing some of the footage.

This all took place prior to Fogle's arrest, so his initial court appearances didn't include any offers to help arrest Fogle for his activities, although later on Taylor admitted that he shared some of the photos with Fogle.

Subway immediately distanced itself from Taylor after his arrest, and issued statements that they were outraged at his conduct. Curiously, Fogle released statements as well echoing what Subway had said, condemning Taylor for his actions.

This investigation, however, is what led to the investigation of Fogle taking shape. Naturally, if Fogle was in some way involved in the case against Taylor, he was sure to be investigated just as thoroughly as Taylor's wife. Fogle's involvement in this world of child exploitation had started even earlier than 2015.

Rochelle Herman-Walrond, one of the informants for the FBI on Fogle's behavior

This woman, Rochelle Herman-Walrond came to the FBI when she had first heard Fogle make remarks about middle-school aged children, which were enough for her to start wearing a wire to record conversations she had with Fogle. From Wikipedia:

" She recorded him making several remarks about having sex with underage girls and asking her to install a webcam in her children's rooms so he could watch them."

Fogle's arrest on July 27th 2015

It was Russell Taylor's arrest that became the downfall for Fogle, as it was discovered that Taylor had been trading photos with Fogle, and according to the Wikipedia page on Fogle, some of the children were as young as 6 years old. But it wasn't necessarily the photos that got Jared into the immense amount of trouble he was in. The state also subpoenaed his text messages, which were horrible. Initially Fogle was texting a former Subway franchise owner, but then insisted on speaking to her cousin who was, well, what I will call a "procurer".

Fogle: "Is your Asian friend available?"

Procurer: "Are you going to pay me, too, or can I come back?"

Fogle: "I'll pay you big for a 14 or 15-year-old"

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Fogle: “Do you have any access to any young girls? Like 15 or 16?”

Procurer: “Why, baby?”

Fogle: “Cause it’s what I crave.”

With a massive amount of potential charges against him, as well as a close associate convicted of 12 counts of possession of child pornography, Taylor, willing to testify against him, Fogle agreed to a plea bargain, where he pleaded guilty to two counts of possession of child pornography, and one count of travelling (from Indiana to New York) to engage in illicit sexual acts with a minor. In the initial stages of the court case against Fogle, part of his defense involved a forensic psychiatrist's evaluation of Fogle which suggested that he had a compulsive eating disorder, which explained his weight problem when he was in his early 20's, and that when he began his "Subway Diet" the compulsive eating disorder led to a case of "hypersexuality". Though it isn't uncommon for one type of compulsion/addiction changing into another form of compulsion/addiction (smokers who quit smoking often develop some kind of "oral fixation" where they feel compelled to have their hand near their face; this can often end up turning into some kind of eating compulsion), there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that an eating compulsion would lead to pedophilia. The prosecution made this point very clear in the rebuttal against the psychiatrist's evaluation. (An evaluation in which she suggested Fogle had a MILD case of pedophilia). Though the defense attorneys asked for a 12 year sentence, Fogle was actually sentenced to 15 years in prison, a term which started on December 18th, 2015.

Jared Fogle was lucky that he was able to arrange that deal, however he was ordered to pay $1.4 million dollars in damages, specifically $100,000 to each of the victims, and well as register as a sex offender when he is released from prison. Furthermore, he is not allowed to be in the presence of a minor without supervision, which includes his own children.

I would wager that Fogle agreed to the plea bargain quickly as a way to dissuade any others coming forward to testify against him in his initial trial. Given time, I'm certain there will be more parents of minors coming forward to present evidence against him, possibly lengthening his sentence. Russell Taylor, the man who led authorities to Fogle in the first place, was sentenced to 27 years in prison, and attempted suicide in his prison cell in early May 2015. At the time this will be posted, there has been one assault. on Jared Fogle in prison by a prisoner who hates child molesters.

Jared Fogle will remain in prison until his earliest possible release date in 2029, however, there is hope that more of his victims will come forward and extend this sentence to a more acceptable length, considering the depth and depravity of his crimes over the course of up to 8 years.

Steven Nigg

Jared has already been assaulted in prison by this man, Steven Nigg, who hates child molesters and claims that Jared "is lucky to be alive."

Well, thanks for reading y'all. I'm thinking of doing a post a little later discussing the FBI protocol for how to catch a serial killer. I can promise you that anyone thinking they're going to learn something about how to get away with a crime; you won't. I've engineered it that way.

FP Edit: I know this is sort of opening a can of worms, but I wanted to clarify a few things that a lot of you are talking about in the comments. Firstly, the brief amount of research I've done in the last hour or so does indeed say that pedophilia is more like a "sexual orientation" than it is like a "psychological disorder" (thank you @LincolnsVengeance), and if the post-industrialist western world's taboo against homosexuality has taught us anything, it's that you can't "fix" someone's sexual orientation. Opinions on this matter have been going back and forth in the comments, and a lot of you are saying that pedophilia is different than the other sexual orientations because it is generally involves a minor. I say "minor" because that term is defined differently around the world, along with the age of consent.

But the thing I wanted to point out in this post was that Jared had been paying for sex with minors, and the decision for the victim to consent likely never existed. If the only thing uncovered in his investigation were photographs on thumb drives or external hard drives, then perhaps this would be a case of "treating his desires as a sexual orientation rather than a crime"; but I personally believe that paying for sex with a non-consenting minor is taking things a bit too far, and why a prison sentence was more fitting for this case, rather than just therapy of some description.

A few of you have said that there are therapists who would immediately turn a client away if they mentioned they were interested in children (thank you @tuckerr), which I did indeed find out in my research. This could happen for a number of reasons, one very likely reason would be that therapists are mandated to report sexual abuse, so if the client talked about experiences they have had in the past, that would pretty much be the end of therapy. It's a risk I imagine some of the therapists would prefer not to take. Of course a therapist could turn away a client out of their own personal beliefs, however if the therapist has been reading the recent literature, they might believe that therapy has a chance.

At present, one of the few treatments for pedophilia is "chemical castration"; a process by which the patient is given pills that severely reduce the libido in order to dissuade them from engaging in sex acts with minors (thank you @Barkinsons). The process is reversible, so generally, if things change and the patient no longer feels compelled to have sex with minors, they can discontinue the medication and lead a relatively normal life.

But I am inclined to agree with the majority of you who believe that this form of treatment, though effective, is not a solution. Many of you suggested that there should be the possibility for someone to "come out" as it were, and seek help before they end up hurting someone, rather than waiting for it to go too far and only seeking help AFTER they hurt someone (thank you @apercent).

Lastly, I want to make my point of view very clear. Simply fantasizing about this kind of behavior (and I'll even stretch to say owning pictures not taken by you could possibly be included) should land a person in some kind of therapy; acting on these desires with someone younger than the age of consent should land a person in prison as well as therapy.

FP Edit 2: Changed "plead" to "pleaded". Thank you @cbjfan

LAST FP EDIT: Here is the FBI Protocol for catching a serial killer, Part 1: http://imgur.com/gallery/CFoal

When did Fogle have children?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You could have just said "Jared Fogle is from Indiana" and saved me a bunch of reading.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

My brother drank his first beer in the 6th grade with Fogle at a friend's party. He doesn't tell that story anymore...

9 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 1

Please tell me this ad was placed on purpose

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Anyone else have the Quiznos ad at the bottom of this post?

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

How stupid do you have to be to leave child porn on your computer after your business partner gets arrested for child porn?

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 4

@op Regarding "stifling amount of weight loss," the word "stifling" doesn't make sense here. Do you mean "stunning"?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Guess why he got caught? He worked at Subway, not the as a senator.

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 4

Thats what happens when you don't use your aides

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Escort procurer has to be the most delicate way Of calling someone a Pimp that I've ever seen

9 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 1

I had to look up "procurer." That's what I thought too after I read the definition.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Or sex trafficker

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Got really healthy, and even ran marathons. Came in a little behind

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 5

Dark, under the radar. Like it.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Now that we know he's a pedo, his plan to make children lighter and thus less kidnap resistant is quite sinister.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 3

*Ephebophile

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Maybe his foundation was all just a trick to get skinnier, sexier children

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10/10 brutal

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Username doesn't check out.

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

This guy was supposed to film a subway commercial at my parents house with Micheal Phelps. At the time I was disappointed that it was 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Cancelled, but now I think that's a good thing. Especially since I was around 17 at the time

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I feel so incredibly bad for his children

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Nigg sent him to the ER

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Nigg gonn Nigg

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'd like to clarify that consent from these victims never existed - consent can only be given by an adult, it's part of the definition

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Meanwhile, a woman who actually raped a child gets jail time every other weekend for two years.

9 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 7

rape cases are mishandled and mispunished all the time regardless of gender- why are you bringing up this case rn? how is it relevant?(2)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good point. I should make it its own post - lots more points in it for me that way.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"actually raped" jared fogle actually raped people too. He plea'd out, could have got less too being a rich white dude like brock turner(1)

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

you can rob, steal, murder, extort, etc. and prisoners don't care. you molest a kid, the other inmates will fucking KILL YOUR ASS!!!!!!!!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

All those other guys are pretty awesome apperently.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

People say its an orientation? A huge portion of abusers were once in fact abused. Most paedophiles aren't born that way.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

In general pedophiles have a different wiring in their brain that causes attraction rather than nurture when they see children.Cant fix that

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

A lot of people who abuse children are not paedophiles. http://aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/tandi/421-440/tandi429.html

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This American Life did a really good piece on pedophiles and how there is no support to help them deal with their urges.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Oh my god. Now we have to worry about PEDO's fee fees?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 7

If it keeps them from raping children...

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Exactly. Not every pedophile is a monster. Some understand & are horrified by their urges and desires and want help so they don't hurt kids.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What a fucking brutal illness. You can't be with the people you are chemically attracted to, and you are looked at as a complete 1/n

9 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 29

I totally agree. I used to work with a pedophile and while I was horrified, I truly felt pity for him. He couldn't help what felt.

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I'm permanently impotent. Not having sex is not the end of the freaking world. Frustrating, but not a death sentence.

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Monstrosity. I mean, it's terrible if urges like these are acted upon; People only ever get hurt. But knowing that most are of these 2/n

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People don't have a choice in how they feel... what a fucked up life. For everyone involved 3/3

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bro are you trying to play devils advocate?

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It's not like Im condoning anything. Our bodies work in very complex ways, and understanding that we don't fully know how these people 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Work is a step towards getting them the help they need. We can't just lock someone up because we think they're a monster. We have to try 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

That's exactly how I think of it, it's horrible and major kudos to those who cope appropriately with it.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

You can fantasize about whatever you like, but it's the acting on it that makes him a monster. There are tons of people on the chatroom 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 6

called "Cannibal Café", but Armin Meiwes and Bernd Brandes acting out the desire for one to kill and eat the other makes them monsters. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 3

Then is it the act itself that makes them monstrous? Because if so, then we should try and understand why they are like this and help 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 4

A friend worked for subway at the time of the scandal he said they were ordered to take down anything Jared fogle related immediately.

9 years ago | Likes 311 Dislikes 5

No shit.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

My ex used to introduce himself as "jared, from subway" to get people/other girls to remember him by.

9 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 0

You only have half the story here; continue?

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This was before the scandal. I'm just remembering all the college girls he told this to(it was 9yrs ago) cause I think they all thought of a

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Fat dude

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's always fun to get those orders randomly. Getting an email, "How quickly could you remove any Michael Vick mentions from the website?"

9 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

As fast as I can type - sed -i 's/Michael Vick//g'

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

When you know how to code, but you're not a coder, most work isn't work. Me "finding that stuff" I could claim takes all week.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

In any corporate environment that won't work. Most PHB except it to be done in the next couple of minutes.

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True I managed a Subway at the time of his arrest, had to tear down everything immediately. There's a Dr Phil episode on him, gut wrenching

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Funny that

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Did Taylor's wife get arrested? Or is she a sexual predator walking free?

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Silly question. Women will always walk if there's a man involved. They just put pigtails and say "I'm just a girl. He coerced me to do it."

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With that logic then if there's an underaged girl then men will always sexual harm them?

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I think you mean "There have been women who have..", not "Women will always.."

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

Sadly, I agree for the most part. ANY time there's a man involved, the woman can claim abuse and fear regardless of involvement.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

That's so funny, I got -5 for the comment and you got +7 for agreeing.

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I can't believe the majority of the American population still thinks like this. It makes me have little to no faith in our jury system

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Women tend to not go to jail for this.

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As a woman this enrages me. If we don't treat women the same as men how can we demand to be taken seriously?

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It's a bit ridiculous, such as my mom claims to be a feminist and all for equal rights and treatment. She told me if a guy were to try

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and hit me I can stop them by punching back, but if a girl were to do it I am not supposed to. I asked how that's equal and she got pissed

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and refused to answer. Shit like that is why we can't have equality for years to come, to much biasing. In time I believe stuff will get

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Ugh seriously sickening. I'm a women and every time i hear shit like this it fills me with rage.

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You know, I'm never sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, they're repulsive and deserve punishment. But... advocating random 1/2

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If the point of punishment is to change the wrongdoer for the better - we are good people; if for vengeance then we are still uncivilized.

9 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 7

And then I get added conflict. Some people can't be salvaged. What to do then.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Thank you (& others here) for taking a more nuanced view to a serious problem

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I've always thought they should get the death penalty, personally. Not 1-15 years, just one bullet.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

only thing that achieves is a bunch of dead innocents

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The only thing that makes me pause there is just how scarily easy it is for an innocent person to get slapped with this shit. There (1/3)

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

was that one girl, for example, who damn near got her fucking father jailed with 50 fucking shades. (2/3)

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

severe beatings/worse by violent types always strikes me as wrong. 2/2

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It's not random though...

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 9

The attacker is random. The timing would be seemingly random.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That is because you are a person of both a sense of both justice and reason.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I super disagree. He deserves worse

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 25

ehhh, it's chaotic neutral.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well done on being correct. Constant demonising and encouragement of violence doesn't encourage people with issues to seek help.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

I agree. Im somewhat morally conflicted. (explained in my comment thread)

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

This is a personal question of what we believe justice is. I choose to believe in the American court systems version of justice. Not the

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 3

Typical eye for an eye that a lot of people advocate in this situation. Of course I an a young adult male with no children so my view may

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

Change with time

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Word

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

One issue to consider here, however, is that US prisons routinely subject inmates to treatment that violates constitutional rights against->

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(4) imprisoned. That doesn't negate the fact that many others are treated in fashions that go beyond the scope of "cruel and unusual."

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

(1) cruel and unusual punishment. In effect if a judge can't rule that a rapist be gang-raped they can sentence the rapist to a prison where

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

(2) (s)he is almost certain to be gang-raped by the general population. You can say that it's not guaranteed that this sort of thing will

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(3) happen and that lots of people go in, do their time, and come out with no lasting ill effects beyond those caused purely by being

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Easy. If someone WANTS underage sex, so what. If someone ACTS on it, I won't cry if Nigg gives him an unpleasant time.

9 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 8

I appreciate the sanity of this post. People lose their minds whenever pedophilia comes up (it's horrible, but we should still be rational)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

I'm okay with removing prison guards and let all criminals sort things out with their own justice. That's what you want as well, I see.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm glad the legal system never makes mistakes!

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 5

Well in this case, we know they didn't. He confessed, made a plea deal, and was on tape placing his order for kids just like a sub :(

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Gah...I hate how the site has been double posting so much lately...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well in this case, we know they didn't. He confessed, made a plea deal, and was on tape placing his order for kids just like a sub :(

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

But then you have the notion that if the girl was willing and the age is legal in other countries, when does it become unethical vs illegal?

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 7

When we're talking about a 15-16yr old being trafficked for sex, it's not an issue of consent. SO, What is the legal age to pimp a child?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's the diff btwn sexy time btwn a teen couple vs a teen selling their body because, for whatever reason, they "have to".

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Compare to Jerry Seinfeld 38 & his girlfriend 17. She wasn't being pimped, they were "dating". Unethical, tasteless not illegal.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If a 25-30 year old man is exploiting 15-16 year olds, game over.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 6

In the u.s. yes, but in many countries 16 year old is considered mature and very legal

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 8

That doesn't change my opinion.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 7

Made a career out of trying to get into smaller pants. Career destroyed by trying to get into smaller pants.

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You have a way with words.

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9 years ago | Likes 235 Dislikes 1

Damn he was a great Joker. I read that in his voice.

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

Hey, it's that joke about Jared that was popular like a year ago, let's post it on imgur and act like we thought of it.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Holy shit, I'm going to hell for laughing at that.

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Ha! Aye, you're fuckin nuts mate

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Fuckin hell I spit my beer. +1

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Oh man, I feel so fucking bad laughing at this. +1

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God damn it, I have to give that one to you...

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I just invited this comment to 666

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Wtf I did too

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*Slow Clap*

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Jeez.. Thats.... Perfectly true

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Its even more sickening for those poor children when you realise jared has aides

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

No, time travelers cured him. That or/and he never had AIDS.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Reference to the south park episode jared has aides go watch that shit

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Ah. :)

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There is nothing more i hate in this world than these fucking child molesters. They should get life sentences!!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

One life sentence for each child he molested.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Too expensive. Only real cure is a bullet. 73 cents + labor to dig the shallow, unmarked grave.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A poor retelling of someone else's quip.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

He'll be getting plenty of footlongs in jail and I bet they won't cost him 5 dolla.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'm a terrible person. I laughed. Felt bad. Then read it aloud. Laughed again. Yeah. Burning in Hell.

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You just made me feel genuinely ill.. +1....

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The gods giveth and the gods taketh away

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You win so much with this.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

So dark... i love it!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Uh oh, I upvoted a bad post to a bad number... What does this mean?

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

this

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I feel like Jared had seen that facial expression before.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This gif was perfect. +1

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Get into pants for smaller people and everyone applauds you. Try to get into the pants of smaller people and everyone goes crazy.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Shit I wish I could save comment stands

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I feel like this particular gif miiiight be a little on the nose, considering the subject matter. :p

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Ahhhh... perfect gif but it feels like it sails a little to close to the wind... should I be laughing?

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

For what it's worth, there was definitely an internal crisis at work as I was deciding whether or not to post it

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

For what it's worth, hearing that does make it a little better.

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Fucking perfect +1

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I like my humor like I like my coffee. Dark

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 1

i like my women like i like my coffee. ground up

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and stored in a freezer

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*Dank

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 3

So you like your humor like you like your cellars? Dark and dank.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

He's a bad dude we all know that, but lets focus on the people who essentially whored out their children, like that's f###ed up.

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Fucked, see we're not 10

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

If we where that would make him extra scary. I hast wanted to keep it SFW.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Just** sorry

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

not quite as bad, but also the people that were like "sure I can find someone underaged for you to rape"

9 years ago | Likes 55 Dislikes 0

"Lemme sell random child to this perv..." is equally bad as "Lemme sell my child to this perv..."

9 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

v

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Most shocking example of that to me is Ian Watkins. Google if you wish, but its really really fucked up.

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*possibly had their children kidnapped

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is the thing that bothers me the most. : /

9 years ago | Likes 216 Dislikes 1

Then don't look up what happened to the lead singer of Lost Prophets...

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Raping BABIES??? How is that anyone's thing? D:

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I used to really like that band too :'( I can't listen to them anymore without thinking about it.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Dude wtf! He doesn't even give a shit

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He was sentenced to 15 years in 2015 for fucking 15 year olds. It all makes sense.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It could also be sex trafficking. Which is sadly very real and very easy to manipulate underaged kids into.

9 years ago | Likes 245 Dislikes 0

We need Liam Neeson on the case.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hence the whole careerfield of Pimp. :/

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Hashtag #ed

9 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 0

Leads to a lot of Ed, Edd, and Eddy...

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

hashtag hashtag ed

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Human trafficking in general is just fucking terrifying. Especially when you consider every time you see a "missing person" sign somewhere.

9 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

I'm also talking about the parents who gave the green light to him for $ and now is going to get money off his convection too, that's gross.

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

Gotta love that double dipping depravity

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Holy shit, that hadn't occurred to me. Holy. Shit.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

The one thing that terrifies me the most is hearing that one of my sisters have gone missing

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I had to find out over Facebook that mind had gone missing. My parents and step grandma are horrible. Overall racist beliefs my dad 1

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

disowned me from the family. I find out that my little sister was missing in our small but dangerous town. She was found later, thankfully.2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

She decided to go to a friend's house without telling anyone and everyone freaked out apparently. She should have told someone, but the 3

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What?! What happened?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

they haven't, i just worry that it might happen

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'm so sorry! Maybe you could post the missing person poster here if you have one. Good luck!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

they aren't missing, i think i worded this horribly as always

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Oh thank goodness!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My cousin came up missing 2 years ago, we found her this year. Turns out she ran away, because she was embarrassed about becoming 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

She's back safely. Don't lose hope.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

WHAT WAS SHE EMBARRASSED ABOUT BECOMING THOUGH?!

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2/2 a velociraptor, but we all assured her that's a normal part of puberty, and she's safe and loved as part of the family again.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Is this transmissible by engineering into some kind of difficult to transfer virus? Also, did her feathers grow in ok? [Tnx for happy story]

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

about becoming what!? We need to know!

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I know this is but a minor footnote but how the hell do you train a dog to sniff out thumb drives?

9 years ago | Likes 765 Dislikes 8

Everything smells like something. Apparently there are trained dogs which detect oncoming seizures. Doggos have sensitive sniffers.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Asking the real question

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It reeks of shame

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it smells like pre-teen spirit

9 years ago | Likes 79 Dislikes 2

@op might have inadvertently been overly specific. Training to scent concealed electronics would be trivial. That could be applied many ways

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Have you every smelled a new, out-of-the-package hard drive or flash drive? A very chemical, somewhat metallic odor. Just add super dog nose

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

I think a lot of new electronics or plastic-containing devices have that sort of smell though.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Years of retail experience here; there is a definite difference between the freshly unboxed pc smell & something plastic like a nerf gun.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

not to say that you're wrong, but there are different plastics that are used for different things. In addition I did mention electronics too

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can train the right dog to sniff out ANYTHING

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah that part was weird.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Came down to the comment section just to make sure it was a ''real'' post after reading it.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thoroughly.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

"Minor"

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I could use one of those dogs. I keep loosing mine...

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Dogs can be trained to sniff out large amounts of money too, maybe it's the scent of the items themselves, or are something that's been

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handled frequently by the owner.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They're probably the same detection dogs borrowed from a prison trained to find contraband like cellphones. Just "journalismed" a bit.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My very small high school claimed the drug dogs could sniff out knives. So the dogs can find metal? Good luck with finding a knife in a car.

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 3

I suppose its possible that sharpening oils used in manufacturing knives might have a scent dogs could detect. Still sounds like BS though.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's just that they have a sharp sense of smell.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It wouldn't be very accurate for knives. Electronics have a distinct scent. What school has dogs??

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Southern California 15 years ago, every school I had friends at said they had dogs there too. I imagine has only become more common

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My very small school (graduating class of 48) regularly had cops and drug dogs sniffing lockers and cars, even though we had like two 1/

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, they come to mine periodically. Especially if they get a tip.

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incidents the 6 years I was there. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My school had dogs all the time searching for drugs. Maybe an American thing.

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So did mine. It's why I stopped going. It was easier than to stop having drugs.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Not my part of America. Wow! That's intense!

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Not to me. We would just closed the doors and have class. My town does have a drug issue though. Thats what happens in small towns I guess.

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The hell? That's crazy

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Not to me. We would just closed the doors and have class. My town does have a drug issue though. Thats what happens in small towns I guess.

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It's shockingly not uncommon. Some high schools even have a cop posted to them. And we're talking ass end of nowhereville, not inner city.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

PA burbs (hour north of Philly) - we had a cop go between the middle, high and elementary schools (that's their order on the street).

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Can confirm. My highschool (in a fairly small Midwest city) generally has one policewoman stationed here.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

See the problem I'm having with this is that Pedophilia is a legitimate mental illness and it has been proven medically. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 68 Dislikes 26

We shouldn't be helping everyone with a mental illness. It's just impossible. Separating from the masses and hinder reproduction works fine.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 21

Depending on the age of the minors involved, pedophilla may be doing that already.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tough to implement in practice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

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No, it's simple, just unpalatable.

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And the trouble with that is, at anytime, they can choose to stop or lie. Which means it comes at the cost of molesting a child usually.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 6

There was an episode of "This American Life" that dealt with this. Very interesting, disturbing, and eye opening.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That doesn't really mean anything,"legitimate mental illness" just means it's described in the DSM.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Which means nothing? What it means is that they are ill not deviant. Deviants know better but choose to be that way.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I would also argue that many mental illnesses come with self awareness.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You misunderstand what I mean. They should be held accountable for their action. What we shouldn't be doing is treating them like animals.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wrong. I'm just a commenter, how about from a neuroscientist? http://www.radiolab.org/story/317628-forget-about-blame/

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Any and all motivations aside, no matter how unpreventable, people who sexually assault children need to be removed from society.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I agree. What I disagree with is their treatment once removed. They need help and they shouldn't be thrown in with the general population.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I understand, but Jared PAYED to have sex with minors. Also, his partners weren't exactly consenting either.

9 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 1

*PAID - sorry that hurt me to look at

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Son of a bitch. I can't edit comments, so now I'm stuck with it.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Perhaps I should clarify. I'm not stating I think he should go unpunished. Simply that blind persecution without understanding is wrong too.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think we should encourage pedophiles to come out and get treatment, but they shouldn't be able to just get away with this either

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

This sort of thing has been covered in media. Without castration, you're basically trying to train/medicate someone to stop an impulse/urge.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

which is why i don't like calling it an "orientation". gay and straight people go years without having sex, and they don't rape people.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which is better than what we currently have, which is nothing.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

We are basically condemning mentally ill people without giving them the help they need and claiming they're hardened criminals.

9 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 17

They also used to think that being gay was an illness too

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

Not the same!

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Being attracted is the illness. Acting on the attraction is the crime.

9 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 1

I don't disagree with you, but there isn't anywhere to get help pre-crime, currently.

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

You can absolutely speak with counselors/therapists/psychs on this topic. This is not a mandatory report.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

the wiggle room in the reporting law is enough that a therapist could report it for very little.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thinking about killing someone and actually doing it are very different. Fogle actually had sex with children, he belongs in jail

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

They should definitely be given counseling while in jail. Violent acts still need to be punished if the person is not mentally deficient.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

That;'s true. But once a pedophile abuses a child then they are criminals, and deserve everything they get.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Oh I agree, I just think that treating them as hardened criminals and pretending they aren't ill is the wrong course of action.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

They are hardened criminals...they committed a crime. Many of them display extremely calculating, manipulative behaviors to get their target

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Were not condemning him for his mental illness we are prosecuting him for acting on them and the damage he has caused to all of those childv

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Whilst you're right - many live with it without committing a crime. Don't pity those who molest children, they made a choice in doing it.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The media makes no distinction between pedophile and child molester, unfortunately, its a 21st century witch hunt. history will frown on us

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's a good point but a lot of his victims were in their teens /preteens . He just seems to have a puberty fetish

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

No. We're "basically" holding them accountable for breaking the law (& common decency) if they fuck children or have/make/trade child porn.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Harvard: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges."

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But at least that treatment is helping to keep some kids safe. the way we have it now, with stigma instead of treatment, makes everyone (1)

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

less safe. (2)

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When you throw the term "sexual orientation" on the table, you really leave it opened to any type of psychological disease being treated 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

as a sexual orientation and then it probably gets excused by the fact that being gay was also considered a disease, lessening the impact 2/3

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

of said disease and turning people's mind into tolerating it and just plain accepting it as a normal thing

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This! The prior gay issue is apples vs oranges. It's comparing a bigoted generation's inability to accept consenting adults expressing *c

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

They basically get chemically castrated, which works really well combined with therapy. Some pedophiles know they need treatment

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well considering sexual psychology says it's a mental illness I guess Harvard is wrong

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

It was the diagnoses for homosexuals. Until you know someone who seems normal & "sane", you just go along with the idea that they ARE sick.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He quoted Harvard...you know you gotta throw up something from somebody. 'Sexual psychology' is a bit vague...

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

*Harvard Med School. And this was from 2010. 2013, APA says it's "only a disorder if (one) acts on it..." seems like an odd def to me.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

It's no longer mental but behavioral if someone acts on it.

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They were attempting to remove the stigma around prosecution by changing it into an act of deviance instead of a mental disorder.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Remove the stigma of prosecution? Well hell, we could just legalize it instead. Wow...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

That's not how mental health typically works. We don't start saying schizophrenia is just a 'small irritation' because maybe courts give *c

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Whether something is a disorder or not is really, really arbitrary in the end.

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I mean.. there were "treatments" for homosexuality that were successful in the end...

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I think its disengenuous to bring both up in the same breath. Two adults can consent. A child can't.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Being gay and raping a man is also still illegal and immoral.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

?

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Serious question, for guys would castration work?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

It diminishes sex drive, but it doesn't completely remove it.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Maybe. One such treatment was called nausea pills, where a pedophile would break a pill every time he felt an urge around children, that

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Gives him nausea. Eventually he would always associate the urges with nausea

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

They still have hands

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not always. The brain is really the biggest sex organ. You can penetrate with a lot of things. :(

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Like high explosive anti tank shells.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

& who got offended by the true medical fact that your brain is your sex organ of desire? Lol. Or me stating ppl can be raped w/objects?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I feel like that's crazy extreme, especially if they haven't acted on it. That's like cutting out your tongue for a peanut allergy, no?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It would def fall under cruel and unusual. But I was more thinking it would be more like removing the urge to have sex in order to stop(1)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fun Fact: Convicts hate child molesters because an overwhelming majority of convicts were molested as children.

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He actually attacked him because he was flaunting his money and status, not necessarily because he is a molester. According to niggs nephew

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

MAH NIGG

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It's a shame how fucked up someone gets after what happens to them many do not get help. Some parents do not believe them.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Makes complete sense... I always wondered why... now I'm sad...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Most attack them because it's a way to be violent and feel better about themselves. Don't pretend it's righteous or altruistic.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

"fun" faut...

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

This is indeed an myth. I've hand first hand experience and can tell you that convicts are more understanding than the public.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

and that's why they act out criminally... they've been hurt.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

An "overwhelming majority"? I'm not calling bullshit or anything, but I'd like to see some sources on that.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Or it's just an excuse and a publicly acceptable outlet for their violent tendencies.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That wasn't fun at all!

9 years ago | Likes 466 Dislikes 1

Ricky Spanish...

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9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That's not a fact. Neither is it a fact that being molested or sexually abused leads to criminal behavior

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I think also because a lot of them have kids of their own, and feel they are able to protect them in this way

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't know that, though I believe it grants them pseudo-morality, it helps that guards look the other way when shit goes down.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fun Fact: This fact isn't fun at all!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

So fun!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"fun fact"

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A significant percentage of convicts, sure. But I have never seen data that supports the claim that an "overwhelming majority" were.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I mean no convict is going to admit they were molested in prison

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Could be true and they could just have children and hate the thought of anyone doing it to their kids or both.

9 years ago | Likes 115 Dislikes 1

It is true

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Most people with mental/behavioural problems were abused as children and most go to prison. It is true.

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

It is known.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

you don't know that, also all people hate child molesters, not just convicts

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Probably true, but most criminals think they are somehow better than a child molester. They are all equally scum bags.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 56

Are you just a real dumb dumb or just an edgy 12 year old?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I know people who served jail time for driving without a license. Didnt hurt anyone....thats as bad as a chomo? How tf

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

if that was true, life would be so much easier

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Gonna have to disagree. Child molester > bank robber. They...just are.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

Ummm...I....is that backwards? Or....

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

> as in child molester is a greater piece of shit! Pardon my lack of clarity!

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Ahh. That makes far more sense.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I meant > as in worse criminal, bigger evil, more wrongdoing, etc...

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'd sooner befriend an arsonist than a child molestor.

9 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

Many arsonists are also rapists

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 17

Not to mention the potheads and other non violent offenders

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Well, uh, no. There are reasons that some crimes get harsher sentences than others.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Nah.. 3 strike drug prisoner in for life, vs. Paedophile in for 15 years? Not all sentences make sense...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Never said they were good reasons. The sentencing system needs reworking, but sentence disparity is and should remain a core principle.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And with that logic, gun runners, drug dealers, and murderers are worse than child molesters because they often get harsher sentences.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Never said they were good reasons.However off that may be, the principle stands that some crimes are worse and should be treated accordingly

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's more of a "sad" fact.:(

9 years ago | Likes 1043 Dislikes 2

I had fun. You must have a conscience.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

fun fact: Santa isn't real

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

More like a sad lie. Maybe some cases, but not as common as you would think.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

Depends which side ur on

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 11

No. It's just a sad fact. Some people just don't stand a chance at living normal lives cuz they get fucked with early on.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

good way to look at it.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

A lot were, but do you have any source for "overwhelming majority"?

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

In female prisons it's half the population and in male prisons it's about one tenth.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So...not an overwhelming majority.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The majority of child molesters were molested as children as well.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

So most muslims boys in my country were molested as children. This makes a lot of sense.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Where is that? Afghanistan?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

western europe

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What? Where is your country and can you provide a source verifying your statement?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No. KickyFootDance says majority of convicts were molested. Majority of convicts are muslims.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'd like to see your source on overwhelming majority

9 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 4

Look it up lazy. Can't be spoon fed forever.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 26

Someone claims something, that person should give source to back up that claim, not the other way round

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

So if there was a source that led to a potential bullshit article that reinforced the statement you would believe it blindly?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 7

No, thats why people usually come up with several articles from different papers to back it up

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

It's the era of Trump already: People make claims and everyone else has to disprove them.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Just gotta make it political god damn

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Almost half of the women and one tenth of the men in the nation's jails and prisons say they were physically or sexually abused before their

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

So not an "overwhelming majority"

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

This doesn't back up the sweeping claim made above, it's just a source with facts.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Some have said that without the social stigma on "male rape", their numbers would be much higher.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Aka "goof" do not call anyone that has been to prison a "goof" you will be met with unpleasantness that's what they call child molesters.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

The most popular slur for them is just chomo in the united states.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Work in construction jokingly called a buddy goof, let me off with a warning but told me, lots of people that had been to prison would not.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Where is that? In northeast america they are called "skinners" and in England they are called "nonce"

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Canada for sure... goof will get you smashed in

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Skinners here in northern BC who are sent straight to PC

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Confirmed, here in Maine they are "skinners" and so far down on the totem pole that they're eating dirt. Close friend is a CO.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Southern Ontario prison system, have been told by a bunch of guys I work with. (Lots of construction workers have done time)

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fun fact: convicts hate child molesters because failure to do so is tantamount to paedophilia & lynching a nonce makes them feel righteous

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

For real. What right does a murderer or a rapist have "serving justice" to an inmate they deem commited a worse crime?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

None but it makes them feel good. Mistreatment in prison isn't part of the sentence, just more criminal activity.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had to look up what "nonce" meant. Pedo. The example: Gary Glitter.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

order from least to most hated in prison: thieves, abusers, murderers, rapists, and anyone who does anything horrible to kids

9 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

I thought murderers had more credibility and respect in a prison environment due to the severe nature of their crime.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Never been to prison but I would think it's more about fear than respect. Welcome any insights though.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Snitches are lower than anything in prison. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. I was released 3 years ago.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*as long as you didn't steal from them.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

thieves are hated in prison? I've never heard of a thief being assaulted for their crime

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

Well, they're the least hated. No one's liked in prison.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

oh I misunderstood. but there's more in prison than just those listed? i imagine least hated would be drug offenses or officer assault?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's probably why he listed them first in a list that goes from least to most hated.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I imagine there are even less "hated"... drug offenses, cop assaults... though I think it's pointless to mention crimes which no one gives/1

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(also particularly heinous murders)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

a shit about. there are only a few crimes I think that illicit hatred among the prison population. mostly to do with abuse, esp kids. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where are drug offenders at? That has to be a huge part of the prison population.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Think that's what abusers is, considering child abuse would fit into the last category. Then again, could be domestic abusers...I dunno.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That makes sense.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So I'll be famous in prison if I rob a bank?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 5

Well, you won't be hated as much in prison

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I am curious if that is true. They were probably abused and hate anyone that abuses children but I do not know if a majority of them were

9 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 5

I think its likely plus they tend to have kids themselves. In a way they are like shitty prison Batman when they take out monsters like that

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

More kids them you think deal with adverse childhood experiences. They're constantly in survival mode and develop negative coping mechanisms

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's somewhat true, but early childhood tramua or early childhood rejection are the best ways to disassociate someone from others.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Molested

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

I wonder why it's called molested for kids instead of rape

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Molestation is not penetration. Diddling a kid is not rape, it's molestation. Raping a child is child rape, not molestation.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Because rape implies penetration / sex. Molestation has a much wider definition.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Good to know

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I know someone who was raped regularly as a child. She'd non-jokingly murder the family of anyone who would even touch a child.

9 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 2

So... did she actually murder someone? Non-jokingly? You make it sound so casual

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Poor girl that is horrible.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I think a lot of people have that violent reaction its just that cons don't have much to lose.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Even their children?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Probably, if they were in the same room.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

She would murder the children of anyone caught abusing children? She'd be duty bound for suicide at that point.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I worked at a prison for 5 years. This is true.

9 years ago | Likes 300 Dislikes 3

I worked is prison for 4 years. I hate all felons equally.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I lived at prison for a year. Can confirm.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have a good mate that is a prison guard...You guys go through/see some horrible shit. Still, he's one of the nicest people I know.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've also had inmates tell me an additional reason is many of them have kids and they're not there to protect them from people like that

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

This is the case most of the time. Then on the flip side it could be inmates trying to get one over on you. Its a fine line to tread

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I work at a prison that is entirely Sensitive Needs Yards and even these guys hate child molesters, of which there's a higher % here

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

What is sensitive Needs Yards

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We house inmates who are at risk in other places I.e. Gang dropouts, child molesters, former LE

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks for the answer

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

One man has two razor blades lodged in his urethra as a form of penance for his crimes against a young boy.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Did he ever get them out?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I dunno, that was about 3 months ago. At the time he kept refusing treatment so unless he's on death's door step probably not.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Work stories?

9 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 4

You know...I've thought about it. I have some good ones. ....well I don't know if "good" is the right word.

9 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 1

Link us if you do it. I'm super interested.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yaaas bitch. I have mad respect for COs I used to be incarcerated for a minor drug charge. Stories would be great!

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 0

Yes, I want to read. Tag me

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ok imma do one....but im going to put it under a different username. I got ...let go for getting into a "physical altercation" with my Sgt1/

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

So im gonna try not to ruffle to many jimmies just in case

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Go for it. It's nice to do, even if it brings up some of the bad. I want to make a work story post once I'm out of the military.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't leave anything out man. Fling me an @ if you do. Are guards in on some of the shit that goes down? I heard rules were bent to 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

build a kind of rappor between guards and inmates. Nothing major, just an extra 5 minutes here, extra snack there, that sort of thing. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

please put it up and link me!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I currently work in a prison and I can confirm tamps and rapists do not go well in mainstream ????

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Have you got hit with OC spray yet? Since your not done with training and all

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm in Aus so training is only two months. They've been banned from direct spraying us with OC. But I did put a gas mask on with OC still /1

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

inside of it. That burned enough. Also got some residual in a cell extraction. Haha

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tamps?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Child tamperers. Aussie prison slang for paedophiles

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

How long haven't you been working there? Get out while your sanity is still intact.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Haha almost a year so not too long. Although plenty of sanity risking stories already...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've been in about a year too almost done training haha!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1