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A preview; here's a snippet of text conversation between Jared and a Madam/"escort procurer"
Fogle: “Do you have any access to any young girls? Like 15 or 16?”
Procurer: “Why, baby?”
Fogle: “Cause it’s what I crave.”
Ok, generic warning time as usual. This is a LostCatWantedDeadAndAlive post, and like most of my posts, it's going to contain some provocative topics, but NO PROVOCATIVE PICTURES. In the past I have included crime scene photos that shed light on the people, usually serial killers, that I have covered. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to include them in this post. Also, as usual, if you see anything incorrect in the post, leave a comment or send me a PM and I will fix it and tag you in an edit.
Jared Fogle is known to most as "The Subway Guy"; that is until the end of 2015 when things took a very drastic turn. A prolonged FBI investigation, with the help of some of Jared's co-workers as informants wearing wires, uncovered that Jared Fogle was guilty of possession of and intent to distribute child pornography. He was also guilty of "travelling to pay for sex with minors".
Jared Fogle before his Subway Campaign
Jared's story starts when he was 22 years old and a student at Indiana University. During this time, Jared ate mostly "junk food" that generally consisted of fast food style meals of hamburgers, french fries, and other American drive-thru fare. Concerned about his weight (which at this point was around 425 pounds) Jared switched his diet from American-style hamburger food to Subway sandwiches with as few high calorie accouterments (such as mayonnaise) as possible. This diet eventually led to a stifling amount of weight loss, of which his former dorm-mate decided was worth writing about.
His article in the "Indiana Daily Student" drew the attention of Men's Health magazine, which drew the attention of Subway. This led to the invention of "The Subway Diet", a somewhat spurious affair considering Jared's weight loss was, in part, because of his exclusion of American "drive-thru" cuisine. Regardless, this role as the Spokesperson for Subway brought a lot of fame and fortune to the then 23 year old college graduate.
The mission statement from the now defunct "Jared Foundation"
As he continued to promote Subway as a healthy alternative to other styles of fast food, Jared and Subway decided to create "the Jared Foundation" with a partner named Russell Taylor. Together the two of them aimed to help combat obesity in young people.
Jared Fogle and Russell Taylor; founders of the "Jared Foundation"
This is where the trouble started for both Fogle, and for Taylor.
In late April/early May of 2015, police searched Taylor's home, working on the tip that Taylor had offered to text them pictures of minors engaging in adult activities. As has been discussed on imgur before, there are dogs trained to find, by scent, hidden thumb drives or external hard drives, and these dogs were used in the investigation into Taylor and into Fogle. A search warrant was performed at Russell's home, which uncovered a vast amount of child pornography; some of which was recorded himself.
Taylor and his wife had positioned hidden cameras in various places to record children nude; one such place was in a bathtub. Taylor claimed his wife was responsible for the placement of two of the cameras, as well as reviewing some of the footage.
This all took place prior to Fogle's arrest, so his initial court appearances didn't include any offers to help arrest Fogle for his activities, although later on Taylor admitted that he shared some of the photos with Fogle.
Subway immediately distanced itself from Taylor after his arrest, and issued statements that they were outraged at his conduct. Curiously, Fogle released statements as well echoing what Subway had said, condemning Taylor for his actions.
This investigation, however, is what led to the investigation of Fogle taking shape. Naturally, if Fogle was in some way involved in the case against Taylor, he was sure to be investigated just as thoroughly as Taylor's wife. Fogle's involvement in this world of child exploitation had started even earlier than 2015.
Rochelle Herman-Walrond, one of the informants for the FBI on Fogle's behavior
This woman, Rochelle Herman-Walrond came to the FBI when she had first heard Fogle make remarks about middle-school aged children, which were enough for her to start wearing a wire to record conversations she had with Fogle. From Wikipedia:
" She recorded him making several remarks about having sex with underage girls and asking her to install a webcam in her children's rooms so he could watch them."
Fogle's arrest on July 27th 2015
It was Russell Taylor's arrest that became the downfall for Fogle, as it was discovered that Taylor had been trading photos with Fogle, and according to the Wikipedia page on Fogle, some of the children were as young as 6 years old. But it wasn't necessarily the photos that got Jared into the immense amount of trouble he was in. The state also subpoenaed his text messages, which were horrible. Initially Fogle was texting a former Subway franchise owner, but then insisted on speaking to her cousin who was, well, what I will call a "procurer".
Fogle: "Is your Asian friend available?"
Procurer: "Are you going to pay me, too, or can I come back?"
Fogle: "I'll pay you big for a 14 or 15-year-old"
...
Fogle: “Do you have any access to any young girls? Like 15 or 16?”
Procurer: “Why, baby?”
Fogle: “Cause it’s what I crave.”
With a massive amount of potential charges against him, as well as a close associate convicted of 12 counts of possession of child pornography, Taylor, willing to testify against him, Fogle agreed to a plea bargain, where he pleaded guilty to two counts of possession of child pornography, and one count of travelling (from Indiana to New York) to engage in illicit sexual acts with a minor. In the initial stages of the court case against Fogle, part of his defense involved a forensic psychiatrist's evaluation of Fogle which suggested that he had a compulsive eating disorder, which explained his weight problem when he was in his early 20's, and that when he began his "Subway Diet" the compulsive eating disorder led to a case of "hypersexuality". Though it isn't uncommon for one type of compulsion/addiction changing into another form of compulsion/addiction (smokers who quit smoking often develop some kind of "oral fixation" where they feel compelled to have their hand near their face; this can often end up turning into some kind of eating compulsion), there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that an eating compulsion would lead to pedophilia. The prosecution made this point very clear in the rebuttal against the psychiatrist's evaluation. (An evaluation in which she suggested Fogle had a MILD case of pedophilia). Though the defense attorneys asked for a 12 year sentence, Fogle was actually sentenced to 15 years in prison, a term which started on December 18th, 2015.
Jared Fogle was lucky that he was able to arrange that deal, however he was ordered to pay $1.4 million dollars in damages, specifically $100,000 to each of the victims, and well as register as a sex offender when he is released from prison. Furthermore, he is not allowed to be in the presence of a minor without supervision, which includes his own children.
I would wager that Fogle agreed to the plea bargain quickly as a way to dissuade any others coming forward to testify against him in his initial trial. Given time, I'm certain there will be more parents of minors coming forward to present evidence against him, possibly lengthening his sentence. Russell Taylor, the man who led authorities to Fogle in the first place, was sentenced to 27 years in prison, and attempted suicide in his prison cell in early May 2015. At the time this will be posted, there has been one assault. on Jared Fogle in prison by a prisoner who hates child molesters.
Jared Fogle will remain in prison until his earliest possible release date in 2029, however, there is hope that more of his victims will come forward and extend this sentence to a more acceptable length, considering the depth and depravity of his crimes over the course of up to 8 years.
Steven Nigg
Jared has already been assaulted in prison by this man, Steven Nigg, who hates child molesters and claims that Jared "is lucky to be alive."
Well, thanks for reading y'all. I'm thinking of doing a post a little later discussing the FBI protocol for how to catch a serial killer. I can promise you that anyone thinking they're going to learn something about how to get away with a crime; you won't. I've engineered it that way.
FP Edit: I know this is sort of opening a can of worms, but I wanted to clarify a few things that a lot of you are talking about in the comments. Firstly, the brief amount of research I've done in the last hour or so does indeed say that pedophilia is more like a "sexual orientation" than it is like a "psychological disorder" (thank you @LincolnsVengeance), and if the post-industrialist western world's taboo against homosexuality has taught us anything, it's that you can't "fix" someone's sexual orientation. Opinions on this matter have been going back and forth in the comments, and a lot of you are saying that pedophilia is different than the other sexual orientations because it is generally involves a minor. I say "minor" because that term is defined differently around the world, along with the age of consent.
But the thing I wanted to point out in this post was that Jared had been paying for sex with minors, and the decision for the victim to consent likely never existed. If the only thing uncovered in his investigation were photographs on thumb drives or external hard drives, then perhaps this would be a case of "treating his desires as a sexual orientation rather than a crime"; but I personally believe that paying for sex with a non-consenting minor is taking things a bit too far, and why a prison sentence was more fitting for this case, rather than just therapy of some description.
A few of you have said that there are therapists who would immediately turn a client away if they mentioned they were interested in children (thank you @tuckerr), which I did indeed find out in my research. This could happen for a number of reasons, one very likely reason would be that therapists are mandated to report sexual abuse, so if the client talked about experiences they have had in the past, that would pretty much be the end of therapy. It's a risk I imagine some of the therapists would prefer not to take. Of course a therapist could turn away a client out of their own personal beliefs, however if the therapist has been reading the recent literature, they might believe that therapy has a chance.
At present, one of the few treatments for pedophilia is "chemical castration"; a process by which the patient is given pills that severely reduce the libido in order to dissuade them from engaging in sex acts with minors (thank you @Barkinsons). The process is reversible, so generally, if things change and the patient no longer feels compelled to have sex with minors, they can discontinue the medication and lead a relatively normal life.
But I am inclined to agree with the majority of you who believe that this form of treatment, though effective, is not a solution. Many of you suggested that there should be the possibility for someone to "come out" as it were, and seek help before they end up hurting someone, rather than waiting for it to go too far and only seeking help AFTER they hurt someone (thank you @apercent).
Lastly, I want to make my point of view very clear. Simply fantasizing about this kind of behavior (and I'll even stretch to say owning pictures not taken by you could possibly be included) should land a person in some kind of therapy; acting on these desires with someone younger than the age of consent should land a person in prison as well as therapy.
FP Edit 2: Changed "plead" to "pleaded". Thank you @cbjfan
LAST FP EDIT: Here is the FBI Protocol for catching a serial killer, Part 1: http://imgur.com/gallery/CFoal
Liser
When did Fogle have children?
Stevedave89
You could have just said "Jared Fogle is from Indiana" and saved me a bunch of reading.
sherlock91
My brother drank his first beer in the 6th grade with Fogle at a friend's party. He doesn't tell that story anymore...
pagemcconnell
Please tell me this ad was placed on purpose
livingonarock
Anyone else have the Quiznos ad at the bottom of this post?
FBIWhobeyou
How stupid do you have to be to leave child porn on your computer after your business partner gets arrested for child porn?
cannae
@op Regarding "stifling amount of weight loss," the word "stifling" doesn't make sense here. Do you mean "stunning"?
BigBenThisHeresRubberDuck
Guess why he got caught? He worked at Subway, not the as a senator.
ringadingdingbaby
Thats what happens when you don't use your aides
Crocomaw
Escort procurer has to be the most delicate way Of calling someone a Pimp that I've ever seen
Wakborder517
I had to look up "procurer." That's what I thought too after I read the definition.
Codedependent
Or sex trafficker
RelaxIAmAProfessionalRussian
Got really healthy, and even ran marathons. Came in a little behind
TheJonatron
Dark, under the radar. Like it.
pocktio
Now that we know he's a pedo, his plan to make children lighter and thus less kidnap resistant is quite sinister.
Codedependent
*Ephebophile
NotAPervert
Maybe his foundation was all just a trick to get skinnier, sexier children
GhostTasha
10/10 brutal
SixThreeTimes
Username doesn't check out.
hirokareo
This guy was supposed to film a subway commercial at my parents house with Micheal Phelps. At the time I was disappointed that it was 1/2
hirokareo
Cancelled, but now I think that's a good thing. Especially since I was around 17 at the time
Zaboom16
I feel so incredibly bad for his children
Likeasambodii
Nigg sent him to the ER
DanTuker
Nigg gonn Nigg
LianRosie
I'd like to clarify that consent from these victims never existed - consent can only be given by an adult, it's part of the definition
PedestrianElectrobastard
Meanwhile, a woman who actually raped a child gets jail time every other weekend for two years.
eatingketchupchips
rape cases are mishandled and mispunished all the time regardless of gender- why are you bringing up this case rn? how is it relevant?(2)
PedestrianElectrobastard
Good point. I should make it its own post - lots more points in it for me that way.
eatingketchupchips
"actually raped" jared fogle actually raped people too. He plea'd out, could have got less too being a rich white dude like brock turner(1)
WhoPaidForThisFloor
Say what?
PedestrianElectrobastard
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/08/21/molly-shattuck-ravens-cheerleader-sentenced-rape-boy/32108039/
WhoPaidForThisFloor
Wow that's all sorts of fucked up.
Mewmus
you can rob, steal, murder, extort, etc. and prisoners don't care. you molest a kid, the other inmates will fucking KILL YOUR ASS!!!!!!!!
KeeleonOhms
All those other guys are pretty awesome apperently.
iggyface
People say its an orientation? A huge portion of abusers were once in fact abused. Most paedophiles aren't born that way.
Packermanfan
In general pedophiles have a different wiring in their brain that causes attraction rather than nurture when they see children.Cant fix that
ritatheshort
A lot of people who abuse children are not paedophiles. http://aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/tandi/421-440/tandi429.html
SoniChan
This American Life did a really good piece on pedophiles and how there is no support to help them deal with their urges.
Comet260
Oh my god. Now we have to worry about PEDO's fee fees?
ebulating
If it keeps them from raping children...
SoniChan
Exactly. Not every pedophile is a monster. Some understand & are horrified by their urges and desires and want help so they don't hurt kids.
SoniChan
It's Act 2 https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/522/tarred-and-feathered
ThikLikeOatmeal
What a fucking brutal illness. You can't be with the people you are chemically attracted to, and you are looked at as a complete 1/n
CauseImaLaaady
I totally agree. I used to work with a pedophile and while I was horrified, I truly felt pity for him. He couldn't help what felt.
Flyndaran
I'm permanently impotent. Not having sex is not the end of the freaking world. Frustrating, but not a death sentence.
ThikLikeOatmeal
Monstrosity. I mean, it's terrible if urges like these are acted upon; People only ever get hurt. But knowing that most are of these 2/n
ThikLikeOatmeal
People don't have a choice in how they feel... what a fucked up life. For everyone involved 3/3
PMmeyourboibutts
bro are you trying to play devils advocate?
ThikLikeOatmeal
It's not like Im condoning anything. Our bodies work in very complex ways, and understanding that we don't fully know how these people 1/2
ThikLikeOatmeal
Work is a step towards getting them the help they need. We can't just lock someone up because we think they're a monster. We have to try 2/2
khaleesimotherofkittycats
That's exactly how I think of it, it's horrible and major kudos to those who cope appropriately with it.
LostCatWantedDeadAndAlive
You can fantasize about whatever you like, but it's the acting on it that makes him a monster. There are tons of people on the chatroom 1/2
LostCatWantedDeadAndAlive
called "Cannibal Café", but Armin Meiwes and Bernd Brandes acting out the desire for one to kill and eat the other makes them monsters. 2/2
ThikLikeOatmeal
Then is it the act itself that makes them monstrous? Because if so, then we should try and understand why they are like this and help 1/2
theneondemon
A friend worked for subway at the time of the scandal he said they were ordered to take down anything Jared fogle related immediately.
theyar
No shit.
TheRealOnstar
My ex used to introduce himself as "jared, from subway" to get people/other girls to remember him by.
hahahasrsly
You only have half the story here; continue?
GoodSameeritan
.
TheRealOnstar
This was before the scandal. I'm just remembering all the college girls he told this to(it was 9yrs ago) cause I think they all thought of a
TheRealOnstar
Fat dude
Cereaza
It's always fun to get those orders randomly. Getting an email, "How quickly could you remove any Michael Vick mentions from the website?"
DotSlashNatalie
As fast as I can type - sed -i 's/Michael Vick//g'
Cereaza
When you know how to code, but you're not a coder, most work isn't work. Me "finding that stuff" I could claim takes all week.
DotSlashNatalie
In any corporate environment that won't work. Most PHB except it to be done in the next couple of minutes.
littlebear4415
True I managed a Subway at the time of his arrest, had to tear down everything immediately. There's a Dr Phil episode on him, gut wrenching
RV49
Funny that
StormageddonDarkLordOfAllAKAAlfie
Did Taylor's wife get arrested? Or is she a sexual predator walking free?
BarryMcOckner
Silly question. Women will always walk if there's a man involved. They just put pigtails and say "I'm just a girl. He coerced me to do it."
ThePrimrose
With that logic then if there's an underaged girl then men will always sexual harm them?
Cerripede
I think you mean "There have been women who have..", not "Women will always.."
Flyndaran
Sadly, I agree for the most part. ANY time there's a man involved, the woman can claim abuse and fear regardless of involvement.
BarryMcOckner
That's so funny, I got -5 for the comment and you got +7 for agreeing.
ThePrimrose
I can't believe the majority of the American population still thinks like this. It makes me have little to no faith in our jury system
Ihazcheeseburger
Women tend to not go to jail for this.
ThePrimrose
As a woman this enrages me. If we don't treat women the same as men how can we demand to be taken seriously?
bamblebimble
It's a bit ridiculous, such as my mom claims to be a feminist and all for equal rights and treatment. She told me if a guy were to try
bamblebimble
and hit me I can stop them by punching back, but if a girl were to do it I am not supposed to. I asked how that's equal and she got pissed
bamblebimble
and refused to answer. Shit like that is why we can't have equality for years to come, to much biasing. In time I believe stuff will get
KeyLimeAnxiety
Ugh seriously sickening. I'm a women and every time i hear shit like this it fills me with rage.
Tassyr
You know, I'm never sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, they're repulsive and deserve punishment. But... advocating random 1/2
tomkingkong
If the point of punishment is to change the wrongdoer for the better - we are good people; if for vengeance then we are still uncivilized.
Tassyr
And then I get added conflict. Some people can't be salvaged. What to do then.
Thisbefluff
Thank you (& others here) for taking a more nuanced view to a serious problem
WarDragon1984
I've always thought they should get the death penalty, personally. Not 1-15 years, just one bullet.
Splodgey
only thing that achieves is a bunch of dead innocents
Tassyr
The only thing that makes me pause there is just how scarily easy it is for an innocent person to get slapped with this shit. There (1/3)
Tassyr
was that one girl, for example, who damn near got her fucking father jailed with 50 fucking shades. (2/3)
Tassyr
http://www.newser.com/story/229635/girl-made-up-rape-allegations-about-dad-using-50-shades.html (3/3)
Tassyr
severe beatings/worse by violent types always strikes me as wrong. 2/2
GregorSamsa
It's not random though...
dontcallmeplath
The attacker is random. The timing would be seemingly random.
vauhtihirmu
That is because you are a person of both a sense of both justice and reason.
luxymitt3n
I super disagree. He deserves worse
Tehadam
ehhh, it's chaotic neutral.
SilverNicktail
Well done on being correct. Constant demonising and encouragement of violence doesn't encourage people with issues to seek help.
ThikLikeOatmeal
I agree. Im somewhat morally conflicted. (explained in my comment thread)
TheMorn
This is a personal question of what we believe justice is. I choose to believe in the American court systems version of justice. Not the
TheMorn
Typical eye for an eye that a lot of people advocate in this situation. Of course I an a young adult male with no children so my view may
TheMorn
Change with time
vvallequiro
Word
Marikhen
One issue to consider here, however, is that US prisons routinely subject inmates to treatment that violates constitutional rights against->
Marikhen
(4) imprisoned. That doesn't negate the fact that many others are treated in fashions that go beyond the scope of "cruel and unusual."
Marikhen
(1) cruel and unusual punishment. In effect if a judge can't rule that a rapist be gang-raped they can sentence the rapist to a prison where
Marikhen
(2) (s)he is almost certain to be gang-raped by the general population. You can say that it's not guaranteed that this sort of thing will
Marikhen
(3) happen and that lots of people go in, do their time, and come out with no lasting ill effects beyond those caused purely by being
utahjarhead
Easy. If someone WANTS underage sex, so what. If someone ACTS on it, I won't cry if Nigg gives him an unpleasant time.
Lolzorski
I appreciate the sanity of this post. People lose their minds whenever pedophilia comes up (it's horrible, but we should still be rational)
Flyndaran
I'm okay with removing prison guards and let all criminals sort things out with their own justice. That's what you want as well, I see.
johnson21
I'm glad the legal system never makes mistakes!
BlandNotBoring
Well in this case, we know they didn't. He confessed, made a plea deal, and was on tape placing his order for kids just like a sub :(
BlandNotBoring
Gah...I hate how the site has been double posting so much lately...
BlandNotBoring
Well in this case, we know they didn't. He confessed, made a plea deal, and was on tape placing his order for kids just like a sub :(
imshibagel
But then you have the notion that if the girl was willing and the age is legal in other countries, when does it become unethical vs illegal?
FluffyPuddles
When we're talking about a 15-16yr old being trafficked for sex, it's not an issue of consent. SO, What is the legal age to pimp a child?
FluffyPuddles
It's the diff btwn sexy time btwn a teen couple vs a teen selling their body because, for whatever reason, they "have to".
FluffyPuddles
Compare to Jerry Seinfeld 38 & his girlfriend 17. She wasn't being pimped, they were "dating". Unethical, tasteless not illegal.
utahjarhead
If a 25-30 year old man is exploiting 15-16 year olds, game over.
imshibagel
In the u.s. yes, but in many countries 16 year old is considered mature and very legal
utahjarhead
That doesn't change my opinion.
Colvane
Made a career out of trying to get into smaller pants. Career destroyed by trying to get into smaller pants.
kidcolt
You have a way with words.
bippityboppityBACON
TerribleTurkeyzz
needanamedammit
Damn he was a great Joker. I read that in his voice.
joe40001
Hey, it's that joke about Jared that was popular like a year ago, let's post it on imgur and act like we thought of it.
JohnBlevins
Holy shit, I'm going to hell for laughing at that.
InvoluntarilyCelibate
TechKiddz
FatherPhantom
Ha! Aye, you're fuckin nuts mate
SpongebobReferences
ChefCourt
Fuckin hell I spit my beer. +1
LazySolano
ThatgifwithaCat
starlobh
Oh man, I feel so fucking bad laughing at this. +1
GreenPie54
God damn it, I have to give that one to you...
Averagesize
I just invited this comment to 666
GodSiege
Wtf I did too
and0ne
SuperDuperSaiyanGuy
*Slow Clap*
TheMightyElk
Jeez.. Thats.... Perfectly true
theweeaboostrangler
Its even more sickening for those poor children when you realise jared has aides
KnathanTheKnight
No, time travelers cured him. That or/and he never had AIDS.
theweeaboostrangler
Reference to the south park episode jared has aides go watch that shit
KnathanTheKnight
Ah. :)
ZeusWayne
There is nothing more i hate in this world than these fucking child molesters. They should get life sentences!!
Luminesa
One life sentence for each child he molested.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Too expensive. Only real cure is a bullet. 73 cents + labor to dig the shallow, unmarked grave.
TenderVittles
A poor retelling of someone else's quip.
EM3YER09
He'll be getting plenty of footlongs in jail and I bet they won't cost him 5 dolla.
Danielle0904
I'm a terrible person. I laughed. Felt bad. Then read it aloud. Laughed again. Yeah. Burning in Hell.
Weentit
MozillaFirecox
You just made me feel genuinely ill.. +1....
Ryykur
The gods giveth and the gods taketh away
caramelili
You win so much with this.
sassyclassyanddefinitelysmartassy
So dark... i love it!
GodSiege
Uh oh, I upvoted a bad post to a bad number... What does this mean?
boobphysicist
this
PleaseDontRespondToMySarcasticCommentsWithASeriousReply
zlRebel
I feel like Jared had seen that facial expression before.
METHematics
This gif was perfect. +1
Marikhen
Get into pants for smaller people and everyone applauds you. Try to get into the pants of smaller people and everyone goes crazy.
zelotgeneral
Shit I wish I could save comment stands
Groznek
I feel like this particular gif miiiight be a little on the nose, considering the subject matter. :p
jd1311
Ahhhh... perfect gif but it feels like it sails a little to close to the wind... should I be laughing?
PleaseDontRespondToMySarcasticCommentsWithASeriousReply
For what it's worth, there was definitely an internal crisis at work as I was deciding whether or not to post it
KnathanTheKnight
For what it's worth, hearing that does make it a little better.
PostPerfectThingsV2
Fucking perfect +1
TheBlueFantastic
I like my humor like I like my coffee. Dark
Sinodio
i like my women like i like my coffee. ground up
KuramaKitsune
and stored in a freezer
nsfwislive
*Dank
ColoneISanders
So you like your humor like you like your cellars? Dark and dank.
TeraGaze
He's a bad dude we all know that, but lets focus on the people who essentially whored out their children, like that's f###ed up.
MeatSackOfWater
Fucked, see we're not 10
TeraGaze
If we where that would make him extra scary. I hast wanted to keep it SFW.
TeraGaze
Just** sorry
dadIdugahole
not quite as bad, but also the people that were like "sure I can find someone underaged for you to rape"
FluffyPuddles
"Lemme sell random child to this perv..." is equally bad as "Lemme sell my child to this perv..."
ColonialCumCatalogue
registeredtoproveimawesome
Most shocking example of that to me is Ian Watkins. Google if you wish, but its really really fucked up.
VodkaReindeer
*possibly had their children kidnapped
AVoiceOfReason
This is the thing that bothers me the most. : /
andrewtater
Then don't look up what happened to the lead singer of Lost Prophets...
KnathanTheKnight
Raping BABIES??? How is that anyone's thing? D:
ImGonnaRickRollYou
I used to really like that band too :'( I can't listen to them anymore without thinking about it.
Ivebeenhavingtheseweirdthoughtslately
Dude wtf! He doesn't even give a shit
DickWhiskers
He was sentenced to 15 years in 2015 for fucking 15 year olds. It all makes sense.
nmallare
It could also be sex trafficking. Which is sadly very real and very easy to manipulate underaged kids into.
koinuchan
We need Liam Neeson on the case.
mide8
Hence the whole careerfield of Pimp. :/
greggor
Hashtag #ed
RaynWisp
Leads to a lot of Ed, Edd, and Eddy...
orangedoorhinge
hashtag hashtag ed
BeRad117
Human trafficking in general is just fucking terrifying. Especially when you consider every time you see a "missing person" sign somewhere.
TeraGaze
I'm also talking about the parents who gave the green light to him for $ and now is going to get money off his convection too, that's gross.
Cheesecakecrush
Gotta love that double dipping depravity
VindictiveRidge
Holy shit, that hadn't occurred to me. Holy. Shit.
Techtronic
The one thing that terrifies me the most is hearing that one of my sisters have gone missing
DoctorGoldfish
I had to find out over Facebook that mind had gone missing. My parents and step grandma are horrible. Overall racist beliefs my dad 1
DoctorGoldfish
disowned me from the family. I find out that my little sister was missing in our small but dangerous town. She was found later, thankfully.2
DoctorGoldfish
She decided to go to a friend's house without telling anyone and everyone freaked out apparently. She should have told someone, but the 3
NoDanaOnlyZuuuuul
What?! What happened?
Techtronic
they haven't, i just worry that it might happen
sheriwallace123
I'm so sorry! Maybe you could post the missing person poster here if you have one. Good luck!
Techtronic
they aren't missing, i think i worded this horribly as always
sheriwallace123
Oh thank goodness!
krazy986
My cousin came up missing 2 years ago, we found her this year. Turns out she ran away, because she was embarrassed about becoming 1/2
krazy986
She's back safely. Don't lose hope.
dante1120
WHAT WAS SHE EMBARRASSED ABOUT BECOMING THOUGH?!
SamuraiFoxes
2/2 a velociraptor, but we all assured her that's a normal part of puberty, and she's safe and loved as part of the family again.
MightyNerdyCrafty
Is this transmissible by engineering into some kind of difficult to transfer virus? Also, did her feathers grow in ok? [Tnx for happy story]
ThatFoodTruckGuy
about becoming what!? We need to know!
gambronus
I know this is but a minor footnote but how the hell do you train a dog to sniff out thumb drives?
circlebreaker
Everything smells like something. Apparently there are trained dogs which detect oncoming seizures. Doggos have sensitive sniffers.
Opie00
Asking the real question
StormageddonDarkLordOfAllAKAAlfie
It reeks of shame
ShotGaming
it smells like pre-teen spirit
cr4sh0verride
@op might have inadvertently been overly specific. Training to scent concealed electronics would be trivial. That could be applied many ways
gwenniechan
Have you every smelled a new, out-of-the-package hard drive or flash drive? A very chemical, somewhat metallic odor. Just add super dog nose
joesii
I think a lot of new electronics or plastic-containing devices have that sort of smell though.
wakbat
Years of retail experience here; there is a definite difference between the freshly unboxed pc smell & something plastic like a nerf gun.
joesii
not to say that you're wrong, but there are different plastics that are used for different things. In addition I did mention electronics too
HOLAKOOO
You can train the right dog to sniff out ANYTHING
johnson21
Yeah that part was weird.
locouillard
Came down to the comment section just to make sure it was a ''real'' post after reading it.
HALex9000
Thoroughly.
Krispyyeah
"Minor"
RadioFreqq
I could use one of those dogs. I keep loosing mine...
khaleesimotherofkittycats
Dogs can be trained to sniff out large amounts of money too, maybe it's the scent of the items themselves, or are something that's been
khaleesimotherofkittycats
handled frequently by the owner.
burgerandy
They're probably the same detection dogs borrowed from a prison trained to find contraband like cellphones. Just "journalismed" a bit.
theavengingewok
My very small high school claimed the drug dogs could sniff out knives. So the dogs can find metal? Good luck with finding a knife in a car.
gunterleeds
I suppose its possible that sharpening oils used in manufacturing knives might have a scent dogs could detect. Still sounds like BS though.
snotcaulk
It's just that they have a sharp sense of smell.
xminacakex
It wouldn't be very accurate for knives. Electronics have a distinct scent. What school has dogs??
grapesforducks
Southern California 15 years ago, every school I had friends at said they had dogs there too. I imagine has only become more common
theavengingewok
My very small school (graduating class of 48) regularly had cops and drug dogs sniffing lockers and cars, even though we had like two 1/
SheerAnalBumParty
Well, they come to mine periodically. Especially if they get a tip.
theavengingewok
incidents the 6 years I was there. 2/2
ThrustingPickle
My school had dogs all the time searching for drugs. Maybe an American thing.
FedeliskSkielskPardascoumbBaBarnd
same
just4favs
So did mine. It's why I stopped going. It was easier than to stop having drugs.
ShinySephiroth
Not my part of America. Wow! That's intense!
ThrustingPickle
Not to me. We would just closed the doors and have class. My town does have a drug issue though. Thats what happens in small towns I guess.
xminacakex
The hell? That's crazy
ThrustingPickle
Not to me. We would just closed the doors and have class. My town does have a drug issue though. Thats what happens in small towns I guess.
InvidiousSquid
It's shockingly not uncommon. Some high schools even have a cop posted to them. And we're talking ass end of nowhereville, not inner city.
CrazyCatLad
PA burbs (hour north of Philly) - we had a cop go between the middle, high and elementary schools (that's their order on the street).
SheerAnalBumParty
Can confirm. My highschool (in a fairly small Midwest city) generally has one policewoman stationed here.
LincolnsVengeance
See the problem I'm having with this is that Pedophilia is a legitimate mental illness and it has been proven medically. 1/2
HalloweenAintTillManana
We shouldn't be helping everyone with a mental illness. It's just impossible. Separating from the masses and hinder reproduction works fine.
dracomageat
Depending on the age of the minors involved, pedophilla may be doing that already.
jackpwns
Tough to implement in practice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Leithoa
No, it's simple, just unpalatable.
Tamedsquall
And the trouble with that is, at anytime, they can choose to stop or lie. Which means it comes at the cost of molesting a child usually.
gunterleeds
There was an episode of "This American Life" that dealt with this. Very interesting, disturbing, and eye opening.
mousecove
That doesn't really mean anything,"legitimate mental illness" just means it's described in the DSM.
LincolnsVengeance
Which means nothing? What it means is that they are ill not deviant. Deviants know better but choose to be that way.
melaqueef3000
I would also argue that many mental illnesses come with self awareness.
LincolnsVengeance
You misunderstand what I mean. They should be held accountable for their action. What we shouldn't be doing is treating them like animals.
mousecove
Wrong. I'm just a commenter, how about from a neuroscientist? http://www.radiolab.org/story/317628-forget-about-blame/
elucidatefurther
Any and all motivations aside, no matter how unpreventable, people who sexually assault children need to be removed from society.
LincolnsVengeance
I agree. What I disagree with is their treatment once removed. They need help and they shouldn't be thrown in with the general population.
LostCatWantedDeadAndAlive
I understand, but Jared PAYED to have sex with minors. Also, his partners weren't exactly consenting either.
hahahasrsly
*PAID - sorry that hurt me to look at
LostCatWantedDeadAndAlive
Son of a bitch. I can't edit comments, so now I'm stuck with it.
LincolnsVengeance
Perhaps I should clarify. I'm not stating I think he should go unpunished. Simply that blind persecution without understanding is wrong too.
apercent
I think we should encourage pedophiles to come out and get treatment, but they shouldn't be able to just get away with this either
Tamedsquall
This sort of thing has been covered in media. Without castration, you're basically trying to train/medicate someone to stop an impulse/urge.
eatingketchupchips
which is why i don't like calling it an "orientation". gay and straight people go years without having sex, and they don't rape people.
BattloidKouji
Which is better than what we currently have, which is nothing.
LincolnsVengeance
We are basically condemning mentally ill people without giving them the help they need and claiming they're hardened criminals.
misfitbunx
They also used to think that being gay was an illness too
BlandNotBoring
Not the same!
ChuckIHadADoubleBuurgerrr
Being attracted is the illness. Acting on the attraction is the crime.
BattloidKouji
I don't disagree with you, but there isn't anywhere to get help pre-crime, currently.
BlandNotBoring
You can absolutely speak with counselors/therapists/psychs on this topic. This is not a mandatory report.
BattloidKouji
the wiggle room in the reporting law is enough that a therapist could report it for very little.
shocky377
Thinking about killing someone and actually doing it are very different. Fogle actually had sex with children, he belongs in jail
Vivificus
They should definitely be given counseling while in jail. Violent acts still need to be punished if the person is not mentally deficient.
charlie2979
That;'s true. But once a pedophile abuses a child then they are criminals, and deserve everything they get.
LincolnsVengeance
Oh I agree, I just think that treating them as hardened criminals and pretending they aren't ill is the wrong course of action.
BlandNotBoring
They are hardened criminals...they committed a crime. Many of them display extremely calculating, manipulative behaviors to get their target
generalbone
Were not condemning him for his mental illness we are prosecuting him for acting on them and the damage he has caused to all of those childv
wrackspurts
Whilst you're right - many live with it without committing a crime. Don't pity those who molest children, they made a choice in doing it.
StooperDave
The media makes no distinction between pedophile and child molester, unfortunately, its a 21st century witch hunt. history will frown on us
apercent
That's a good point but a lot of his victims were in their teens /preteens . He just seems to have a puberty fetish
SweetGeekling
No. We're "basically" holding them accountable for breaking the law (& common decency) if they fuck children or have/make/trade child porn.
LOlivingVE
Harvard: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges."
BattloidKouji
But at least that treatment is helping to keep some kids safe. the way we have it now, with stigma instead of treatment, makes everyone (1)
BattloidKouji
less safe. (2)
B99Reactions
When you throw the term "sexual orientation" on the table, you really leave it opened to any type of psychological disease being treated 1/2
B99Reactions
as a sexual orientation and then it probably gets excused by the fact that being gay was also considered a disease, lessening the impact 2/3
B99Reactions
of said disease and turning people's mind into tolerating it and just plain accepting it as a normal thing
BlandNotBoring
This! The prior gay issue is apples vs oranges. It's comparing a bigoted generation's inability to accept consenting adults expressing *c
Barkinsons
They basically get chemically castrated, which works really well combined with therapy. Some pedophiles know they need treatment
LincolnsVengeance
Well considering sexual psychology says it's a mental illness I guess Harvard is wrong
JaneCalamityJane
It was the diagnoses for homosexuals. Until you know someone who seems normal & "sane", you just go along with the idea that they ARE sick.
BlandNotBoring
He quoted Harvard...you know you gotta throw up something from somebody. 'Sexual psychology' is a bit vague...
LOlivingVE
*Harvard Med School. And this was from 2010. 2013, APA says it's "only a disorder if (one) acts on it..." seems like an odd def to me.
chowmaster
It's no longer mental but behavioral if someone acts on it.
LincolnsVengeance
They were attempting to remove the stigma around prosecution by changing it into an act of deviance instead of a mental disorder.
BlandNotBoring
Remove the stigma of prosecution? Well hell, we could just legalize it instead. Wow...
BlandNotBoring
That's not how mental health typically works. We don't start saying schizophrenia is just a 'small irritation' because maybe courts give *c
PedestrianElectrobastard
Whether something is a disorder or not is really, really arbitrary in the end.
IllegalDuckling
I mean.. there were "treatments" for homosexuality that were successful in the end...
Groznek
I think its disengenuous to bring both up in the same breath. Two adults can consent. A child can't.
KeeleonOhms
Being gay and raping a man is also still illegal and immoral.
Awesoman66theCactusLord
?
LOlivingVE
Serious question, for guys would castration work?
IllegalDuckling
It diminishes sex drive, but it doesn't completely remove it.
apercent
Maybe. One such treatment was called nausea pills, where a pedophile would break a pill every time he felt an urge around children, that
apercent
Gives him nausea. Eventually he would always associate the urges with nausea
hellothisisjodieimsorrybutimnothome
They still have hands
BlandNotBoring
Not always. The brain is really the biggest sex organ. You can penetrate with a lot of things. :(
IllegalDuckling
Like high explosive anti tank shells.
BlandNotBoring
& who got offended by the true medical fact that your brain is your sex organ of desire? Lol. Or me stating ppl can be raped w/objects?
GhostTasha
I feel like that's crazy extreme, especially if they haven't acted on it. That's like cutting out your tongue for a peanut allergy, no?
LOlivingVE
It would def fall under cruel and unusual. But I was more thinking it would be more like removing the urge to have sex in order to stop(1)
KickyFootDance
Fun Fact: Convicts hate child molesters because an overwhelming majority of convicts were molested as children.
YoloSwagginsAndTheKnightsOfTheRoundTable
He actually attacked him because he was flaunting his money and status, not necessarily because he is a molester. According to niggs nephew
bkkhk
MAH NIGG
Andilee
It's a shame how fucked up someone gets after what happens to them many do not get help. Some parents do not believe them.
yeahyoudid
Makes complete sense... I always wondered why... now I'm sad...
Flyndaran
Most attack them because it's a way to be violent and feel better about themselves. Don't pretend it's righteous or altruistic.
Theunholydownvoter
"fun" faut...
fr1080f
This is indeed an myth. I've hand first hand experience and can tell you that convicts are more understanding than the public.
onehazyafternoon
and that's why they act out criminally... they've been hurt.
Bigcurly2000
An "overwhelming majority"? I'm not calling bullshit or anything, but I'd like to see some sources on that.
nollataulu
Or it's just an excuse and a publicly acceptable outlet for their violent tendencies.
IamRickySpanish
That wasn't fun at all!
keyblader1985
Ricky Spanish...
IamRickySpanish
buffles
That's not a fact. Neither is it a fact that being molested or sexually abused leads to criminal behavior
thetokenranga
I think also because a lot of them have kids of their own, and feel they are able to protect them in this way
Patilistan
Didn't know that, though I believe it grants them pseudo-morality, it helps that guards look the other way when shit goes down.
BioSmiley
Fun Fact: This fact isn't fun at all!
nutellabandit
So fun!
TosokTheRodentHunter
"fun fact"
gunterleeds
A significant percentage of convicts, sure. But I have never seen data that supports the claim that an "overwhelming majority" were.
Jokeykilla
I mean no convict is going to admit they were molested in prison
bigbuttsandIcanlie
Could be true and they could just have children and hate the thought of anyone doing it to their kids or both.
givemedownvotessoifeelterrible
It is true
BrownskinOriental
Most people with mental/behavioural problems were abused as children and most go to prison. It is true.
wickernerd
It is known.
swenglishperson
you don't know that, also all people hate child molesters, not just convicts
krapmyself
Probably true, but most criminals think they are somehow better than a child molester. They are all equally scum bags.
mousecove
Are you just a real dumb dumb or just an edgy 12 year old?
lovingfox
I know people who served jail time for driving without a license. Didnt hurt anyone....thats as bad as a chomo? How tf
azertyxtra
if that was true, life would be so much easier
SalamanderCmndr
BlandNotBoring
Gonna have to disagree. Child molester > bank robber. They...just are.
ThrustingPickle
Ummm...I....is that backwards? Or....
BlandNotBoring
> as in child molester is a greater piece of shit! Pardon my lack of clarity!
ThrustingPickle
Ahh. That makes far more sense.
BlandNotBoring
I meant > as in worse criminal, bigger evil, more wrongdoing, etc...
YoursTrulee
I'd sooner befriend an arsonist than a child molestor.
ITalkAboutGoats
Many arsonists are also rapists
Quomp
Not to mention the potheads and other non violent offenders
doubleormuffin
Well, uh, no. There are reasons that some crimes get harsher sentences than others.
erischilde
Nah.. 3 strike drug prisoner in for life, vs. Paedophile in for 15 years? Not all sentences make sense...
doubleormuffin
Never said they were good reasons. The sentencing system needs reworking, but sentence disparity is and should remain a core principle.
krapmyself
And with that logic, gun runners, drug dealers, and murderers are worse than child molesters because they often get harsher sentences.
doubleormuffin
Never said they were good reasons.However off that may be, the principle stands that some crimes are worse and should be treated accordingly
Jimmmydickgun
That's more of a "sad" fact.:(
Cereaza
I had fun. You must have a conscience.
poochyena
fun fact: Santa isn't real
fr1080f
More like a sad lie. Maybe some cases, but not as common as you would think.
buttchops
Depends which side ur on
MantisTobagganMD
No. It's just a sad fact. Some people just don't stand a chance at living normal lives cuz they get fucked with early on.
inmat
good way to look at it.
ErinFromTheOffice
A lot were, but do you have any source for "overwhelming majority"?
goawaypleasethankyou
In female prisons it's half the population and in male prisons it's about one tenth.
ErinFromTheOffice
So...not an overwhelming majority.
etmoi
The majority of child molesters were molested as children as well.
Poserman
So most muslims boys in my country were molested as children. This makes a lot of sense.
PlusSizedGentlemanInAnUndersizedGarment
Where is that? Afghanistan?
Poserman
western europe
jellydonuthands
What? Where is your country and can you provide a source verifying your statement?
Poserman
No. KickyFootDance says majority of convicts were molested. Majority of convicts are muslims.
Lobuttomize
I'd like to see your source on overwhelming majority
Hooblaah
Look it up lazy. Can't be spoon fed forever.
Highfarm
Someone claims something, that person should give source to back up that claim, not the other way round
Hooblaah
So if there was a source that led to a potential bullshit article that reinforced the statement you would believe it blindly?
Highfarm
No, thats why people usually come up with several articles from different papers to back it up
vauhtihirmu
It's the era of Trump already: People make claims and everyone else has to disprove them.
MrAndersonn
Just gotta make it political god damn
FluffyPuddles
Almost half of the women and one tenth of the men in the nation's jails and prisons say they were physically or sexually abused before their
Mooselover2000
So not an "overwhelming majority"
FluffyPuddles
imprisonment http://www.casaforchildren.org/site/c.mtJSJ7MPIsE/b.5525017/k.5115/Justice_Study_Prior_Abuse_Reported_by_Inmates.htm
FluffyPuddles
This doesn't back up the sweeping claim made above, it's just a source with facts.
FluffyPuddles
Some have said that without the social stigma on "male rape", their numbers would be much higher.
Etazin
Aka "goof" do not call anyone that has been to prison a "goof" you will be met with unpleasantness that's what they call child molesters.
lovingfox
The most popular slur for them is just chomo in the united states.
Etazin
Work in construction jokingly called a buddy goof, let me off with a warning but told me, lots of people that had been to prison would not.
krapmyself
Where is that? In northeast america they are called "skinners" and in England they are called "nonce"
erischilde
Canada for sure... goof will get you smashed in
crasemanna
Skinners here in northern BC who are sent straight to PC
Snooj
Confirmed, here in Maine they are "skinners" and so far down on the totem pole that they're eating dirt. Close friend is a CO.
Etazin
Southern Ontario prison system, have been told by a bunch of guys I work with. (Lots of construction workers have done time)
MerToo
Fun fact: convicts hate child molesters because failure to do so is tantamount to paedophilia & lynching a nonce makes them feel righteous
sampanbou
For real. What right does a murderer or a rapist have "serving justice" to an inmate they deem commited a worse crime?
MerToo
None but it makes them feel good. Mistreatment in prison isn't part of the sentence, just more criminal activity.
PlusSizedGentlemanInAnUndersizedGarment
I had to look up what "nonce" meant. Pedo. The example: Gary Glitter.
shinyRK9
order from least to most hated in prison: thieves, abusers, murderers, rapists, and anyone who does anything horrible to kids
elucidatefurther
I thought murderers had more credibility and respect in a prison environment due to the severe nature of their crime.
Sinus23
Never been to prison but I would think it's more about fear than respect. Welcome any insights though.
cleanguy79
Snitches are lower than anything in prison. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. I was released 3 years ago.
JimHeckler
*as long as you didn't steal from them.
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
thieves are hated in prison? I've never heard of a thief being assaulted for their crime
shinyRK9
Well, they're the least hated. No one's liked in prison.
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
oh I misunderstood. but there's more in prison than just those listed? i imagine least hated would be drug offenses or officer assault?
Patriotsg
That's probably why he listed them first in a list that goes from least to most hated.
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
I imagine there are even less "hated"... drug offenses, cop assaults... though I think it's pointless to mention crimes which no one gives/1
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
(also particularly heinous murders)
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
a shit about. there are only a few crimes I think that illicit hatred among the prison population. mostly to do with abuse, esp kids. 2/2
Babybirdnutsacs
Where are drug offenders at? That has to be a huge part of the prison population.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Think that's what abusers is, considering child abuse would fit into the last category. Then again, could be domestic abusers...I dunno.
Babybirdnutsacs
That makes sense.
VoIdemort
So I'll be famous in prison if I rob a bank?
Sinus23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJBdr6eBuo
thingsofyourmind
Well, you won't be hated as much in prison
TheMorn
I am curious if that is true. They were probably abused and hate anyone that abuses children but I do not know if a majority of them were
iggyface
I think its likely plus they tend to have kids themselves. In a way they are like shitty prison Batman when they take out monsters like that
Thejunkfoodkid
More kids them you think deal with adverse childhood experiences. They're constantly in survival mode and develop negative coping mechanisms
HiddenSanity
It's somewhat true, but early childhood tramua or early childhood rejection are the best ways to disassociate someone from others.
TheMorn
Molested
ITalkAboutGoats
I wonder why it's called molested for kids instead of rape
iLynux
Molestation is not penetration. Diddling a kid is not rape, it's molestation. Raping a child is child rape, not molestation.
AReallySatisfyingPoo
Because rape implies penetration / sex. Molestation has a much wider definition.
ITalkAboutGoats
Good to know
IllegalDuckling
I know someone who was raped regularly as a child. She'd non-jokingly murder the family of anyone who would even touch a child.
thingsofyourmind
So... did she actually murder someone? Non-jokingly? You make it sound so casual
wideeyeddoe
Poor girl that is horrible.
iggyface
I think a lot of people have that violent reaction its just that cons don't have much to lose.
TheChandrian
Even their children?
IllegalDuckling
Probably, if they were in the same room.
TheChandrian
She would murder the children of anyone caught abusing children? She'd be duty bound for suicide at that point.
kelleylee86
I worked at a prison for 5 years. This is true.
SteveTypeRs
I worked is prison for 4 years. I hate all felons equally.
richardgretzkyy42
I lived at prison for a year. Can confirm.
WineMixer01
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whyiseverythingupsidedown
I have a good mate that is a prison guard...You guys go through/see some horrible shit. Still, he's one of the nicest people I know.
Liquidbullets
I've also had inmates tell me an additional reason is many of them have kids and they're not there to protect them from people like that
kelleylee86
This is the case most of the time. Then on the flip side it could be inmates trying to get one over on you. Its a fine line to tread
PAGlNGDRFAGGOT
I work at a prison that is entirely Sensitive Needs Yards and even these guys hate child molesters, of which there's a higher % here
starkart
What is sensitive Needs Yards
PAGlNGDRFAGGOT
We house inmates who are at risk in other places I.e. Gang dropouts, child molesters, former LE
starkart
Thanks for the answer
PAGlNGDRFAGGOT
One man has two razor blades lodged in his urethra as a form of penance for his crimes against a young boy.
inmat
Did he ever get them out?
PAGlNGDRFAGGOT
I dunno, that was about 3 months ago. At the time he kept refusing treatment so unless he's on death's door step probably not.
beatificbroseph
Work stories?
kelleylee86
You know...I've thought about it. I have some good ones. ....well I don't know if "good" is the right word.
ThrustingPickle
Link us if you do it. I'm super interested.
Sanwytequila
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dirtyandnerdy
Yaaas bitch. I have mad respect for COs I used to be incarcerated for a minor drug charge. Stories would be great!
Daanario
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TheBranWithAPlan
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MmmChuntPls
Yes, I want to read. Tag me
benene
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thingsofyourmind
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kelleylee86
Ok imma do one....but im going to put it under a different username. I got ...let go for getting into a "physical altercation" with my Sgt1/
kelleylee86
So im gonna try not to ruffle to many jimmies just in case
DoctorGoldfish
Go for it. It's nice to do, even if it brings up some of the bad. I want to make a work story post once I'm out of the military.
PolarHailStorm
Don't leave anything out man. Fling me an @ if you do. Are guards in on some of the shit that goes down? I heard rules were bent to 1/2
PolarHailStorm
build a kind of rappor between guards and inmates. Nothing major, just an extra 5 minutes here, extra snack there, that sort of thing. 2/2
mountainofpuppies
please put it up and link me!
Nate3
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omgitshyemi
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zahnizzle
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ADDmiralALTbar
I currently work in a prison and I can confirm tamps and rapists do not go well in mainstream ????
kelleylee86
Have you got hit with OC spray yet? Since your not done with training and all
ADDmiralALTbar
I'm in Aus so training is only two months. They've been banned from direct spraying us with OC. But I did put a gas mask on with OC still /1
ADDmiralALTbar
inside of it. That burned enough. Also got some residual in a cell extraction. Haha
PermenantlyBannedClubMember
Tamps?
ADDmiralALTbar
Child tamperers. Aussie prison slang for paedophiles
kelleylee86
How long haven't you been working there? Get out while your sanity is still intact.
ADDmiralALTbar
Haha almost a year so not too long. Although plenty of sanity risking stories already...
murphyslaw101
I've been in about a year too almost done training haha!