ElbowDeepInAHorse
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Whelp, it took some work, but I figured out how to beat off a stuck rod. |・ω・)
Jokes aside, I decided to take the consensus of advice and make an attempt at repair. Obviously, I'm nowhere near done. I just wanted to put it out there that as much as I want to, I'm not throwing in the towel just yet. I doubt I can fix this, but even if I don't, I'll at least learn about how the mechanism is assembled by taking it apart. At the end of the day, I'm learning something from it.
So, yeah, thirty some minutes of hammering and cursing finally dislodged this damn thing. I started with a pin punch until it wouldn't reach, then moved onto a long screwdriver, and finally I just grabbed the stupid thing with a locking wrench and rotated it back and forth while constantly pulling on it. I lost track of how many times I had to stop, tap all the levers back up the rod, pull a little, stop, do it again, etc. These things bind up if you breathe on them.
Luckily, my fears of breaking the levers didn't come to pass. They're all kinds of messed up, but they're intact. I think the hardest part is behind me.
Also what's the worst that could happen, I'm so glad my car runs, the weather looks great tomorrow, and this week is going to be problem-free. I figure if I use all the jynxes, they'll stack overflow and revert to extremely good luck.
Right now, the problem is that I don't have enough room to pull the levers out.
They're connected to the vertical posts that press the price flags up by what looks like a rivet. That's probably wrong, but I don't recognize the connection. I doubt it's meant to be assembled by someone in that tight of a space, so I probably need to remove all the other stuff as a kind of order of operations.
Which means pulling out this giant hunk of metal whose purpose I don't understand, nor do I know what removing it will do. Either way, I'm gonna do it. After all, it's not like I can break it any harder. I'll still try to be careful and document the disassembly in case by some miracle I unfuck this machine, but my confidence is pretty shot at this point.
Oh and aaaaall this gets to come out, too! :D
Ah well. Have a definitely intact horse art as a midnight snack. One of these days I'm going to have to convince @selenophileart to draw a fully clothed safe for work Christian cartoon horse working on an antique cash register.
Artist sauce: Selenophile ;)
Helipad0451
I love when stuff is already broken because you can mutilate it with impunity. No guilt, no expectations. Go ahead, perform a half-assed autopsy on that fish.
sakm
Congratulations on the unstuck rod. I will avoid the obvious innuendo there, and instead go for a different one entirely, to suggest that with your prior experience with your hands deep in dark places attached to things that can easily hurt you, I have the utmost confidence that... you'll at least not die. And it should make for an excellent learning experience and a good story if nothing else! Remember to take breaks - nothing leads to frustration and mistakes quite like rushing. Good luck!
brandorf
" I can't break it any further" AND you might succeed, or even better, learn something. You've got the right attitude, but if it gets frustrating or you start to despair make sure to take a break, that's when the worst mistakes can be made.
TheFastpaws
That looks like a ton of work to remember where it all goes back!
RestlessVagabond
Gonna have to change your name to ElbowDeepInARegister
ElbowDeepInAGoblin
Don't you just hate it when the space is too tight and you don't have enough room to pull out (levers) so you lose all hope of unfucking (machines).
DanielAsparagus
You beat off your stuck rod lmfao.
yifin
The most probable worst outcome is you get some knowledge for next time. That's not a total loss
Pishposhbingbong
And, an abundance of spare parts for future projects.
divingin
Get some Kroil or other penetrating oil. It will help avoid any galling from metal to metal friction.
nichoDriver
Wooo! Learning, bitch! Yeah!
Liondrome
Science!
fnordy
Level 6: "I wasn't asking."
75townecoupe
Can't be tight if it's a liquid!
NotNotascientologist
I'm currently working on an engine for a restoration and have discovered that the process of engine disassembly is the bit where you do not give a shit about anything. Use whatever means you need to get the damn thing open, and when it is laid bare completely, you can then decide if it was worth saving. This has unfortunately meant that I have to replace several parts now because they got hit with a sledgehammer during retrieval of the engine.
retailguy
When I'm fucking something up, I use the term 'calibrated adjuster' instead of sledgehammer. Oft times makes people turn their head in a puppy dog quizzical way.
huffnpuff72
If it cant be fixed this time, you should at least be able to learn how they are assembled for future reference. Often with disassembly, I find that I've pulled it apart 'the wrong way' when it comes to reassembly time.
Munchman347
At least NCRs don't get 'excited' when you're elbow deep in them...
ElbowDeepInAHorse
They get bitey! :D
relsky
Yesssss I love where said, "it's not like I can break it any harder." I used that line when I was doing tech support. People would be afraid to do the simple troubleshooting I was giving them, and I would use that line. It was corporate tech support, so worst case, it stays broken, and I send them a replacement. Best case troubleshooting fixes it.
You were already at worst case (giving it up as scrap). You had nothing to lose. Kudos to you for beating off that stuck rod!
SqueezitTheClown
Hell
Yeah
EagleWolfie
Zeterai
MBTerrorKitten
Oh hey i have the same hammer!
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Hammerbuds!
whadyameanthatnamestaken
“….they’ll stack overflow an revert to extremely good luck”. @OP, that’s gold!!😂😂😂
ElbowDeepInAHorse
I come from the Ghandi school of karma xD
Italktotrees
If you aren't making mistakes, you aren't learning. As someone who has given you money in the past, I have no problem with you spending it on a project that doesn't work out. It was a gift, not an investment. I'll give again when I can.
ElbowDeepInAHorse
I appreciate hearing that, thank you!
Paintedmithra
Remember- each spring, each rod, each piece *may* be different, so try to keep track of exactly where each one came from. If you do that, you're probably ok, barring something breaking on removal or straightening.
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Oh you can bet I'll be taking a crapton of pictures. This reminds me of when I took apart my first register and the terror of not being sure I wasn't doing something I couldn't undo. Gonna be better prepared this time!
Paintedmithra
Oh! And I'm proud of you moving forward with this!
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Thank you ^_^
carbonr1
Remember to straighten them in a vice, gently. Not with pliers.
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Crap, I need to buy a vise
carbonr1
I commented on your previous post about this, on how to reassemble the arms and rod easily.
carbonr1
Yeah. It's the right way to straighten metal. You can also put a flat piece of wood on each side of the part, in between the jaws of the vice, to be gentler to the surface of the part. And a small ball of rolled up fabric on the high point of a bent piece, to get it perfectly straight
ElbowDeepInAHorse
I'll have to peek at Marketplace for a cheap vise then and try this out. Sorry I missed your earlier comment!
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Never mind, I just remembered my bench upstairs came with a half-assed wooden vise attached. I don't even have to find scrap wood lol!
NeoAcario
You should start a gofundme or something for a solvent tank. I'd pitch in. Seriously, every before pic of guts looks like it needs to be sprayed down / soaked in hot solvent. So nasty.
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Solvent tank? I don't even know what's involved in that. Can I set one up for my stupid mortgage instead? XD
NeoAcario
It's literally just a metal sink with a reservoir, pump, and a sprayer nozzle like faucet. So you can spray down things and/or soak them. Not all have a heater. They're usually their own stand alone thing. Sometimes on wheels. Not actually that heavy or expensive... depending on how big they and their reservoir is. Closable lid also. Hrmm, hobo freight sells a pretty basic one: https://www.harborfreight.com/20-gallon-parts-washer-with-high-flow-pump-58679.html?hftm_sc=671
ElbowDeepInAHorse
Ohhh, I've seen these. The one at Harder Fart felt pretty flimsy for heavy stuff but I could see it being good for small parts. I'm not sure I'd need one though. I could probably drop this thing in the utility sink without breaking anything.
NeoAcario
Oh, It's definitely overkill in most individual cases. We had one in the army and at a gun club I used to belong to. But if you're not using it regularly.. kinda not worth the space they take up or the constantly dissolving solvent (if you don't re-bottle it).