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The whole internet was abuzz this month about the microtransaction gambling in EA’s Battlefront II. It was one of the worst systems ever seen in a full priced game. One would think it couldn’t get any worse. But one would be wrong. The newly released beta test of EA’s UFC 3 game has shown a similar lootbox gambling system. One that also affect the gameplay. UFCs lootboxes contain upgraded moves and fighters that give paying players clear advantages. The most egregious is the fact that you can get an upgraded jab (just a punch, literally the most straightforward move) which simply allows you to just punch harder.
Tl:dr EA IS DOING BATTLEFRONT II MICRONTRANSACTIONS AGAIN, BUT IN UFC NOW
Doofer20
i thought about buying EA stock but literally it seems like they want to kill themselves off at this point.
Rivet95
See, i didn't care about star wars. I wanted this. Fucking EA. I hate them more than I hated EA a month ago, and that was a lot!
MarinShatterhand
This is why people need to stop buying their games outright, not just temporarily, even after the fiasco of SWBF2, they don't care.
e45643
i don't even game why am i luking at this powst?
tajanator
Fuuuuuuck not UFC
shileka
"Sir we lost massive money with our last cashgrab maybe we should try to..." "NOTHING VENTURED NOTHING GAINED DO IT AGAIN"
undungubungu
Not only that, Bisping is not that cut anymore!
iDumle
AtomicBluntPunch
I've been told the Madden series also does this. Guess sports nerd aren't as loud as Star Wars nerds.
Ritra
BraXta
To be honest tho i reckon that the UFC probably included the idea to do microtrans for better basic moves... they've whored fighters for yrs
Randazzo
They have no plans to stop, either. The only thing that matters to them is money, as should be expected from a corporation.
Randazzo
For anything to change, people would need to boycott their products so badly as to cause financial distress - and that will never happen
KaiLovecraft
Just buy something like tekken instead. Way better
BassNAss
That's the type of shit Dana White would be on board with.
leftyepee
AKA Dana Shite
SecretSantaFCFMA
need points to send msg to my secretsanta recipient, pls upvote the comment
NullSecc
It's simple, we just stop buying their products.
MiddlelVlan
These features have been around on fifa ultimate team for years it's only just starting to seep into other games.
Sinergy3
It's NOT that simple though. 7 billion people on Earth. Theres going to be people that dont give a fuck and is going to buy the shit anyways
RoodKontjeAapje
We could maybe get enough people to stop buying their games for them to see it's no longer worth making them this way.
bjorklund
They have been doing this in Madden Ultimate Team for years and no one has said shit.
Donkeymong
Still isn't as bad as fifa ultimate team.
AeonQuasars
Ea earn so much money on this, that even if they lose hakf of player base, they still earn way more than not continue with this system.
AeonQuasars
There is ALWAYS people that are willing to pay for advantages. Why do you belive cheaters are still a thing?
theashman69
I'll just keep playing Mortal Kombat on my SNES. Off the grid.
screamingwinemaker
Can I come??
theashman69
Yeah I got a spare controller and need a partner for Turtles In Time.
Thamutznutz
Get over here!
ProphetChuck
I'll never forget the uppercut, punch spam. My friends would toss their controllers at the tv. Good times.
bustednut69
Wow, this guy took Roy off the grid!
effigyoma
You should get some of them sequels too
theashman69
Kintaro in MK2 was an absolute Cunt.
effigyoma
Goro in MK1 was my first rage quit.
8008135calculator
* in Ultimate Team mode only.
HiImAFeminist
EA is going to keep doing what they do. They’ve been releasing incomplete and broken Sims 4 packs since release. They give you something...
HiImAFeminist
“Free” (toddlers) then make you pay $10+ for functionality that should be included. They are not going to stop.
moon2A
Isnt Sims 4 technically a $500 game with all the expansions and dlc or whatever?
HiImAFeminist
Just about. The problem is that EA knows people will pay it. Just like any other company. It’s shitty and shady but consumers are the...
HiImAFeminist
Problem. I’d be willing to bet there’s 3 willing purchasers for every 1 who complains. The younger generations tend to be impatient and...
HiImAFeminist
Willing to pay more to get it now. Unless that changes, companies like EA will not. It’s a vicious cycle.
obelisksarecool
Yo if y’all would read the article this is only on the single player ultimate mode and not multiplayer. I hate ea as much as the next guy
Mikeiller
for now
obelisksarecool
But I hate misinformation more.
Orzbek
This is arguably worse. That means they're literally selling power in a single player game. They are selling you cheat codes.
Qualtagh
Isn't that pretty oldschool? Weren't there cheat codes sold in guidebooks?
Orzbek
For Game genie/shark yeah, but you could just open the books in the store and copy them down. Later on, the internet (gamewinners.com) 1/2
Orzbek
had all that information. Or, there were cheats that didn't require that stuff that you could get for free. They're _selling_ easy mode. 2/2
Deat69
The problem is, Battlefront 2 was one of the most beloved games of peoples childhoods.
returningtothetangentathand
I haven't bought it yet, but also, according to my friend, it's really fun.
DarKEspeon
And down the drain you go, for saying something good about EA's BF2.
returningtothetangentathand
Lol, good thing I only said something potentially good about it.
Deat69
I would have hated it less if they called it Star Wars Battlefield 2.
returningtothetangentathand
Shit, if it's Star Wars Battlefield 1 I'll be really happy.
UrsusDerpus
You have 2 options. Yell at EA again, or buy better fighting games, like Skullgirls, KOF, or Tekken.
jimicus
PudgyPinkiePie
Or Them's Fightin' Herds, which runs on Skullgirls' Z-Engine
misterwit
I still have the alpha of that game when it was mlp. Barely works though.
PudgyPinkiePie
It's really smooth and polished now and has won a couple industry awards iirc
IsThatAJoJoReference
Skullgirls is my shit! The only fighting game I've dedicated time to getting good at.
DarKEspeon
Skullgirls is so fucking goooooooooooooooood.
xRoyalWolfx
Por que no los dos?
LetMeBeTheLittleSpoon
One more publicity stunt and huge stock price plummets oughta do it :)
eroso
Or 3rd option, continue ignoring EA
SorenAziz
But what if I don't want fantasy games? Sometimes I don't feel like rolling myself and would rather do it in a game.
InternetWebsite
noctynight
Mortal Kombat?
UrsusDerpus
Yes, those Netherrealms folks are real good
skrizzle4rizzle
I'm not a fan of anime style fighting. I enjoy real sports and am a fan of real ufc fighters. You missed the point completely.
UrsusDerpus
Then you keep telling EA to stop being shitheads. I do like the way the UFC games were handled initially, but lootboxes really fuck it up.
SanSabaSongbird
He was too busy feeling superior over what video games he plays.
tlouman
HEY DICK
UrsusDerpus
I doubt that. There's just not a whole lot of realistic fighting games like the UFC games, unfortunately.
LoNeSt4r
To the surprise of literally no one
SaltyJake
Haha do people think EA only develops, or oversees the development of one game at a time? Spoiler... there will be more of this coming.
Ketheres
It surprised me that you could make an even more p2w fullpriced game
ManPlodTurd
This comment is important! This new trend is game changing, to say the least
Kodaxmax
love that EA has been doing it for years and people are only just now noticing.
Srcsqwrn
I think this comment adds nothing. The point they're making is to not let up on EA.
TheAmazingBlahaj
DorianBlack
EA like the modern GOP. Its unpopular, its kinda fucked, it enriches a select group but fuck it do it anyway bc blowback will be temporary
YCMEHSFI
https://i.redd.it/2tcz9ew4u6yz.jpg
Zin7
a few thousand more accurately. The rest few millions dont care
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Except that guy over there that just crawled out from under a rock after being there for ten years.
DontTazeMeBrah
EA its in the game.. owait.. its in the wallet?? WTF
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
No, no, no. EA, The game is in the paid DLC.
Gayforbae
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention because of those beautifully rendered abs.....
AlwaysSomethingHorrible
I thought you said "Beautifully retarded" and I had to go back up see just what you were talking about...
telpelin
Username checks out
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
Mmm. Yeeeeeep.
iliketoanswerwithreactions
Gayforbae
Shittyperson
Technically is proper homosexual behavior
SleeperXib
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
Yeah, and the stuff you get that upgrades one move also slightly upgrades all other attributes apparently, making paying players OP.
ass3457
Whats!!??
angrysloth
Paying players are a bundle of sticks?
SunBrolem
Whoa ima stop you right there, I am what would be categorized as a whale and I HATE pay-to-win shit. In fact, I hate loot boxes in general.
SunBrolem
What I like to buy is cosmetics and fun stuff like that.
VirtualNaut
Totally agree with you. As long as it is cosmetic and doesn't provide an advantage, I'm all for it. But EA is on some straight BULLSHIT!!!!!
VirtualNaut
Trying to make casual gamers into whales is not right.
IceCubesPubes
I play ultimate team, max level and great moves/perks across the board. Never spent a dollar, plus you are rewarded pretty well for playing/
IceCubesPubes
/So I don't have a huge problem when people just buy good characters. People who do that are usually bad at the game anyway so it evens out
JJI7
Game is in BETA, they haven't even turned on purchases yet. Sooooo, what are you talking about exactly?
IceCubesPubes
UFC 2
spiko999
You just went full retard, good job!
IceCubesPubes
YOU GUYS I WAS TALKING ABOUT UFC 2 THERE ARE ALREADY 2 EA UFC GAMES
Fengoj
I feel bad for all the poor people
obelisksarecool
In the single player ultimate mode not multiplayer. It’s still greedy and should be boycotted.
Ryebread91
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/12/01/ufc-3s-beta-microtransactions-detailed it is in multiplayer though it pairs you with players with 1/2
Ryebread91
Similar stats. 2/2
obelisksarecool
There’s loot boxes in multiplayer but I think they’re only like skins or characters. Ultimate mode is where you’re matched with similar stat
Ryebread91
"Our matchmaking logic takes fighter attributes, moves, boosts, and perks into account and prioritizes matching players 1/2
PTMdragon
i have no idea why you are downvoted if that's true
obelisksarecool
Because the truth doesn’t fit into the mob mentality attitude. You’re either on the bandwagon or you’re not I guess.
PTMdragon
but you WERE on the bandwagon
obelisksarecool
That’s what I thought
JJI7
Its in multiplayer. Or at least sounds like it, they say matchmaking consideres your perks/moves/boosts into account as well as skill.
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
1/? You are both kinda correct and wrong. I checked it out again. Basically it is in the multiplayer but only the Ultimate Team's--
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
4/4 people like me greatly overestimate how much of the multiplayer this affected. My bad there.
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
2/? multiplayer mode, none of the other multiplayer modes. It still means people can pay to win in that mode by upgrading their--
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
3/? fighters via dishing out cash. There was an article spreading misinformation (they've now updated their article) which had--
ThePunisherJB3
Yeah, but I feel like if someone wants to pay tons of money just to be better solo, then why not let them? It affects no one negatively.
Fengoj
Poor people don't like it.
Youdiditwrong
Ya see, with lootboxes they made it so that you have NO IDEA what you're gonna get. If it was known what was gonna be had, sure, whatever.
SunBrolem
Imagine if grocers did that, you have to keep handing them money and they give you random items so you keep paying to get what you want.
usersubbordercontrol
So someone with 1000 hours can be defeated by a person with 1 hour and 1000$ in the game? That's BS.
iWishThereWasAWayToDeleteThis
Yoink!
DragonbornHelix
*Sigh* SOOOO the intent is to provide the players with a sense of pride and accomplishment ... /sarcasm
StarmineRendezvous
ChainmailleAddict
Joke's on you, nobody will want to play for NEARLY that long.
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
Definitely reeks of bull. Maybe with all the hate they're getting EA may be in trouble as a company at some point. Doesn't seem likely tho.
NKato
The British just released a statement on the matter of lootboxes. EA is going to have to do something before the investors start selling.
TimothyHeKnows
Unfortunately theres the numbskulls that buy the game and pay the money that ruin it
usersubbordercontrol
I honestly don't know where they're getting money from now. I think it's just the other companies that buy many copies to sell cheaper
Orzbek
Apparently, the majority of their money comes from FIFA microtransactions. That's the only reason they're in business, or so I've been told.
experiencemike
There's sooo many airheads that still buy their games. My co-workers reasoning for battlefront was the free DLC maps...
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
I think the microtransactions make 'em boatloads of money to continue the cycle.
cancerriddenlung
Their stock is down 8% so far
apocalyptic0n3
They're still up for the year though
cancerriddenlung
Well it's Christmas dude...of course the are. That's nothing new at all. Are they better than last xmas? Is their year over year increasing
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
It gives them a chance to buyback and that's not good for us.
cancerriddenlung
It's buy low and sell high. Remember this please...you ideally wish to buy at the lowest...EA keeps having negative press...stock keeps
Semiflaccid
Just dont buy EA games. Simple as that. Atleast till they change their model.
KraftyKev
Yeah, Ive never felt like Im missing out by not buying from EA.
Dolphinsrapedmybaby
i would just settle for Disney taking Star Wars away from them
danishjuggler21
You don’t even have to go that far. If people just stopped buying the loot boxes, they’d stop putting them in games.
SophiaRose01
Or torrent everything
pareidoliaperson
And slowly positive reinforce you over a period of 5 years to then feed you with shit aigain until you snap out of it, again.
PerroMalcriado
or you can support small devs doing passion projects
ProbablyDrunkAgain
You'd think the vocal minority would have learned this by now, but they seem to be a little slow on the uptake.
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
No, you don't buy EA games till they go out of business and sell their IPs to developers who actually care.
foolhollow
The problem is, not enough people quit buying their products. For every 10 people that don't buy it 10 people do it seems.
LupusIgnis
Probably more like 100
foolhollow
I was being generous but yes, you're probably right.
Roqinn
You would think losing 3 billion in stock price would have changed their minds. Guess not. Sauce in 1/2
Roqinn
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/28/eas-day-of-reckoning-is-here-after-star-wars-game-uproar.html
Tofubutton
Of course not. The extra profit they make on these micro transaction over the life time of a game is outrageous. That's why they wont stop
theFIRSTroman
How about ever? I haven't gotten an EA game in a long time, haven't gone into withdrawl!
Semiflaccid
I wish madden wasnt EA. Only game ive got from them other than the first BF. And i dont play ult team so no money other than game cost.
Wildfanman18
Same here when I buy the NHL games. Who cares about hut or mut. Be a pro and franchise/GM mode is where its at.
theFIRSTroman
I love NHL but haven't bought them in YEARS because fuck EA
Wildfanman18
I have an unhealthy obsession with hockey. Never purchased anything besides the game and I only buy the 60 dollar version.
Caldar
Not even then. Our endgame should be the liquidation of EA as an example to the other big publishers.
AlrightKeepYourSecrets
I like some EA games.
ThumbDunkTheDirtstar
I'm kinda stoked for anthem, not gonna lie.
GasBandit
Thing is, EA makes half their money on FIFA releases. So until people stop buying FIFA... yeah, I know, THAT's gonna happen, right?
Gargusuz
I purchased Sims 4, I am happy with my purchase
randomgibberish
It's a pretty small base game considering the price. If it was more like Sim 3 but with the new features I'd have been ok with it
Gargusuz
It has less than sims 3. Best case scenario on par with it. I would say not equal but equivalent. However, sims 3 was cumbersome (1)
Gargusuz
Then again, it is sims. Expansions are good and fun; stuff packs are expensive and unnecessary. (3)
Gargusuz
I have a nice computer and I used to wait in loading screens more than playing. This guy runs like olive oil (2)
kissmyassets
I was excited for sims. Just wanted the Christmas pack. 30.00. Found out I have to download mods to get simple items. Make a full game.
iisla
the christmas pack is free??
ikindafail
Sims is the only EA game I care about. I paid for the game, but the dlc? Nah son. Mods.
SophiaRose01
Torrent it all
AlwaysUpvoteTuxedoCats
I mean if you want The Sims there are ways to get that game...
etcnotect
*pulls CD out of trench coat*
BeAny0neYouWant
It's not just EA. These type of "games" exist on mobile since at least 10 years. I call all of them "pay2win" games. Gambling 4 kids&adults.
grapehaterade
The difference is those mobile games are always free. This is a full priced game at $60.
BeAny0neYouWant
You're correct about that. There's still that difference.
Aevic
Even if all of you on this thread and on reddit stopped buying their games they will still stand to make a huge profit off of everyone else
Aevic
You forget how big the world is. Millions will still buy the game the only way to make change is to have your voice heard. Not buying does
Aevic
nothing for them.
thefrompleman
Nah not even if they change their model, they've shown repeatedly they're willing to screw over their customers
airandfingers
Player first! https://youtu.be/_BeVmHbMqAA
Luky
Every company is trying to screw over their customers, thats the entire point of capitalism.
VierasMarius
Also remember that they're frequently screwing over their dev teams too. From what I've heard, BF2 is actually a good *game*, shackled 1/2
VierasMarius
to an egregious and exploitative micro-transaction model.
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
I understand ... it's about revenge, yes?
thefrompleman
more about saying no to letting large corporations rape your wallet but sure revenge can work too
AllTheOtherNamesWereTaken1234567
Or simply recognising that EA cannot be trusted and would revert as soon as the heat died down. There are other games
PeterTurboIronCage
It's about sending a message.
ImGladWeHadThisChat
They need to be destroyed to make room for better companies who can look at the dessicated corpse of EA as a lesson
JosteinCena
Hang them up by their entrails and parade them through the city!
AdosOS
They have destroyes too many developers for money. Entire franchises left to rot, the meme with the bodies piled in the ditch. It must stop.
TimePressure
Good company = mystery. Any company will fuck up if you throw money at whatever they do- which people will. Why? Marketing > quality.
ImGladWeHadThisChat
Which is why the consumer base needs to set a precedent with EA and make them an eg
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
That's what Rome did to Carthage.
flawlesssoul
Absolutely. Burn them down, poison the well and salt the earth, so that none dare follow in their path.
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
Don't forget to kill the employees and all their offspring.
iliketoanswerwithreactions
Nah,let the employees live They work for them but they don't choose to make it a pay to win
AxellTheDragon
Up until the third generation, North Korean style.
Schmuck4hire
The thing is that a huge portion of EAs demographic are casual gamers who haven't even heard of this whole discussion.
Wildfanman18
Not a casual gamer, I just have an unhealthy obsession with hockey and need the nhl games. EA had the exclusive rights unfortunately.
GodsLeftTeste
They're also the kind of people who pay for microtransactions
MicrowaveSafe
Yup, just had to explain to my friend and his wife why they shouldn't buy the new battlefront, even though she's a huge star wars nerd.
MicrowaveSafe
And from the reaction I got, they still might...
JesusOnACracker
Who cares if they want to buy it Jesus, let them one sale isn’t going to change anything.
DecapitatedJizzWizard
Stop being a cancer and letting these tactics exist.
Tofubutton
Yeah I don't even blame her. Not too often that you get a good polished star wars game.
ThatOneGuyFromTheThing
Shhhh, last person I saw hinting at buying battlefront was never seen again around here.
littlegoblin
that's why we need to force feed these filthy casuals with awesome games that are not from EA
JPre35
If you like madden and fifa?
firekirby
If people think EA has a monopoly on sports games, I have a copy of Backyard Football that begs to differ. ;)
ultradongle
I worked at an EB Games back when 2k made a college football and basketball game if I remember correctly. The game mechanics were 1/2
MrSaturday
And getting caught in the rain...
ultradongle
Schmuck4hire
... ... ... Mario Strikers: Charged Football... ...?
TheFrypo
Then you're braindead, buy it once and stop paying for the game over and over.
JPre35
Why am i brain dead for buying something i like? You only buy things you dont like?
Wildfanman18
So guessing you bought call if duty finest hour and then proceeded to not buy any other call of duty?