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Dune (Frank Herbert)
Often quoted as “Science Fiction’s answer to Lord of the Rings”. And totally true. This is one hell of an epic novel. Pretty much everything is epic – huge ideas, huge scope, a story (if you count the sequel novels that spans millennia), compelling characters that leave their mark. The cast is huge and varied, a tapestry of flesh that includes the likes of noble desert fighters, messiahs, conniving ‘witches’, and greedy emperors. To top it off, there’s even giant sand worms ridden into battle. F**k Yea!
Did I miss anything? There’s politics between major powers, love, a war that spans planets, treachery of the foulest sort, boy heroes who rise from the dust (literally) and villains that you just love to hate and hate to love. And this fascinating mishmash of just about every concept and idea all centers around Spice, an almost magical substance that comes from one planet only – Arrakis, also known as Dune. It’s a substance that enables interplanetary travel, the most valuable resource in the galaxy. For he who controls Spice, controls the known world. He who controls Dune controls all.
Ender’s Game (Ender Quartet) (Orson Scott Card)
One of the best science fiction books ever written and a modern classic, through and through. Ender’s game is the story of a young boy placed in a situation where there is no winning, a game that is of course a metaphor for life. Some might call it Lord of the Flies in space and it is to a certain extent, but beyond some of the surface similarities, Ender’s Game is a different beast.
There’s a lot going on, plot-wise and theme-wise in this story. A relentless alien threat, a young child thrown into a controlled futuristic version of a Lord of the Flies setting, and one of the best plot twists in the science fiction genre.
Starship Troopers (Robert Heinlein)
Starship Troopers is classic Heinlein and my fill for one of his best novels written. It won the Hugo Award and deservedly so. Unfortunately, most people know this book through the shamefully produced movie. Really, forget the movie ever existed as it’s got nothing on the book itself; the only similarities shared are the character names, the bugs, and the power suits.
The quick and dirty summary of the book is that it’s a metaphorical look at war, both the cost of war and the pleasure of war. Like every “classic”, the message is just as relevant now as it was decades ago when first published.
Foundation (Foundation Series) (Issac Asimov)
A pinnacle of Science Fiction literature, Foundation stands at the top. Many will argue Foundation is the greatest work in the genre while just as many wonder why others love it. It's roundly regarded as a classic in the genre by one of the grandmasters science fiction writers.
The series has garned a slew of awards included a one-time Hugo award for "Best All Time Series" in 1966.
Grand concepts and epic storylines abound in this novel. This is not so much a story of personal characters but of grand ideas. If you like to “think” when you read science fiction, Foundation will deliver.
The Stars My Destination (Alfred Bester)
A stunning classic that's influenced a generation of writers and sub genres, including the Cyberpunk movement. The Stars My Destination broke away from the main stream SF about supermen, heroes, and good guys. Instead of the handsome, altruistic good guy, we have a character who's rather repugnant, both physically and morally; an amoral black hole who manages to suck out the good around him without spitting anything of value back into the universe. And despite this,we get it; we understand what makes this man tick. And by golly,we actually emphasis with him -- which is the real genius of Bester.
2001: A Space Odyssey (Author C. Clarke)
One of those genre defining, pop-culture inseminating books that’s practically on every ‘best of’ science Fiction list out there.
Besides all that, this is the novel that spawned that way cool famous phrase “I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." A big Thank You for that. Now you know when your little iRobot starts spouting that phrase when asked to vacuum the floor, you're royally fucked.
Outside the annals of science fiction, people are familiar with the title from the cult-hit Stanley Kubrick-directed film. Many have seen the film, but fewer have read the actual book. The movie and book are quite tied together as things go, with Author C. Clark working closely with Stanley Kubrick on the movie script and then adopting it to novel afterwards. The movie and book were meant to complement each other.
Hyperion Cantos (Dan Simmons)
A fantastic Hugo-winning space opera that merges the narrative element of Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales with a futuristic space opera set in the distant future. The whole series (not just the first book) is based on the assumption that man’s conquering the stars is inevitable and the complexities and troubles this brings. It’s a wild, wild ride and one of the best damn science fiction books/series ever written.
This is a modern science fiction read that’s absolutely destined to be a classic.
The story centers on six pilgrims and their tales. We find out parts of their history and the needs that drive them to this pilgrimage – a pilgrimage which is a certain death sentence. For these pilgrims are seeking out the Shrike, a god like creature that legend says will kill all but one pilgrim, granting the one survivor a wish.
Neuromancer (William Gibson)
Released in 1984, Neuromancer is widely considered the progenitor of the Cyberpunk genre and the first science fiction to simultaneously win the “Triple Crown” awards (Nebula, Hugo, and Philip K. Dick award). This seminal novel brought many ideas that have seeped into our collective consciousness, including inventing now-used terms such as “cyberspace.”
It’s an ambitious novel full of unique ideas. The pose is complex and full of technical jargon which may be off-putting to some (more than a few people have picked the book up only to put it down after a few pages). But this is a novel that if you push through becomes an electrifying read.
1984 (George Orwell)
A novel of seminal importance that’s influenced society and pop culture like few others. 1984 is the novel that invented the term Big Brother (and no, we’re not talking about that uber crappy reality TV show that locks half a dozen sex-starved drug addicts into a room for a month).
1984 has often been used as a battleground tool in the war waged by the supports of personal privacy against the forces that push for more government control in our daily lives. It’s a stark warning for the 21 century against the pitfalls of government control.
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to The Galaxy (Douglas Adams)
A comedic take on the whole science fiction genre that pokes fun of just about everything. This work has transcended the genre to become part of pop culture. The novel is one long tongue in cheek event – from the characters, to the plot, to the setting. The humor is as British as they come which can lose more than a few that don’t get British humor. This entry on the list is our ode to the Comedic subgenre of SF.
It’s a journey through space and time that will have you laughing the whole way through that’s practically cackling with energy the whole way. A must read for everyone if only so you can get the cultural references that refer to the book!
Ubik (Philip K. Dick)
What is a best science fiction list without the inclusion of one of the greatest science fiction writers ever? Yes, I’m talking about Philip K. Dick, a man ignored in his time but now Hollywood’s golden boy when it comes to drumming up new science fiction films that star A list actors.
The typical entry on a top list would be Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, a seminal science fiction short story that has influenced pop culture like few others. Blade Runner, for one, was based closely on the short story. And we all know how much that film influenced future films. Pretty much every new science fiction film that features an urban city rips out the dirty, vertical urban city sprawl depicted in Blade Runner.
The Forever War (Joe Haldman)
A futuristic account of an endless war that ends only to return home again to everything has changed so much you don’t fit in. To say this is an allegory for the real world would be an understatement. The novel gives a stunning look into the potential future of humankind and how society might evolve.
The Forever War won both a Hugo and Nebula award.
If there was a novel written for veterans, this would be it. And given that the author himself served in the Vietnam War, the novel reflects his own loose metaphoric experiences in the story. This novel is a direct discourse with Starship Troopers in the way that it takes an anti-military stance the whole way through. It’s a very sharp look at the whole Vietnam War if you read between the lines.
Snow Crash (Neal Stephenson)
A novel of startling ideas that influenced a generation of writers and pop culture. Some of the best cyberpunk science fiction out there. Fans of dystopian fiction and cyberpunk will love this one especially those who adore the setting present in Blade Runner - a dilapidated futuristic Asian metropolis with little law and even less order.
The writing is sharp, the wit sharper, and the sarcasm even more so. Stephenson brings you into HIS world, a world where society has been redefined and the rules of living are vastly changed. It’s a distant future that’s somewhat familiar while also alien.
There’s a lot of ideas in Snow Crash and complex ones at that. Stephenson looks at the not-too distant future; it’s a dismal place with no laws, private corporations controlling everything, and the Mob having their hands in the rest – including Pizza Delivery services.
A Fire Upon the Deep (Zones of Thought) (Vernor Vinge)
This stands as one of the best damn space operas ever created, standing shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Hyperion. It’s packed with incredible ideas and interesting characters and wrapped around with high adventure. Folks, it doesn’t get better than this. So read the damn thing.
A Fire Upon the Deep is one of those books that some love and some hate, but needs to be read. It’s a book with an incredible vision of the galaxy and man’s future among the stars, but it’s also a rip roaring tale that doesn’t get lost in all that “vastness”. A perfect combination between story and ideas. This book won the Hugo Award and it’s pretty easy to see why it did.
There’s a lot of “back story” going on, but the basic premise is this: the galaxy is divided up into various zones. The more sophisticated the technology, the further zones you can go. The laws of physics are relaxed in the zones which make computing and technology such as faster than light travel possible that’s not possible in the Slow Zones. Earth is stuck in the Slow Zone but humanity has in fact made it into the Beyond and founded a few civilizations. The irony is that when you have made it to the Beyond, it’s hard to reach the Slow Zone because the laws of physics are more restrictive. The perfect utopia of the Beyond comes to a grinding halt when human scientists accidentally unleash an ancient evil that basically gobbles up the known world. And the fight to save the universe is on.
Old Man's War (Cold Fire Trilogy) (John Scalzi)
A recent work that’s undoubtedly destined to be a classic. This is one of the best science fictions to come out the past decade. With a strong homage to classic Heinlein but with its own personality, Old Man’s War is a refreshing mix of the old and the new.
The bare-bones premise of the story is that humans have found a means to travel between stars. They also find we are not alone and that valuable planets are a very rare and sought-after commodity. Space, it turns out, is not bright world where a collective of Star-Trek like evolved races work together for the good of the galaxy. Rather it’s a dog-eat-dog world where stronger races prey on weaker ones as a matter of principal. And there are several unfriendly races in the human neck of the woods. To help protect Earth’s colony’s against invasions, the Colonial Defense Force enlists everyone, including elderly citizens. The hero of the story happens to be one of these “elderlies”.
Altered Carbon (Takeshi Kovacs Novels) (Richard Morgan)
Part Film-Noir mystery, part cyberpunk, all goodness. Altered Carbon made a big splash when released. Combining gritty detective noir and cyberpunk, this novel is one hell of a thrill ride from start to end.
While there is a strong cyberpunk element to it, you could class this directly in the future noir / science fiction aubgenre.
The premise is simple, but unique: death has been conquered and humans wear different bodies, called sleeves. The Hero, Kovacs, an ex-member of the UN Envoys, a feared international killing squad sent out to do the UN’s dirty work, is brought in to investigate why Bancroft, one of the wealthiest men on Earth, was murdered. Bancroft, brought back from a digital copy rejects the explanation of his death by suicide. Kovacs, brought back in the body that all too well known. And with both the underworld and police gunning for him, a simple investigation will pit Kovacs against a conspiracy.
Book of the New Sun (Gene Wolfe)
A critically acclaimed science fantasy – a thoroughly extraordinary series that’s set far far into the distant future.
This is an epic that’s set in the distant future – millions of years into the future to be precise – when the world is now old yet startlingly new in other ways. The protagonist, Severian, lives a secluded life as a torturer until he’s exiled from his guild after falling in love with a woman he tortures. As he journeys out from a familiar world into the unfamiliar, seeking the far city of Thrax, we the audience are taken along with him and exposed to an exciting and distant world that’s as alien as it is familiar.
At times the world evokes similarities to Vance’s Dying Earth and Peak’s Gormenghast – both worlds that are a labyrinth of possibility that seem made almost from a half remembered dream.
This is a book that straddles both science fiction and fantasy. I would readily award this novel the greatest literary science fiction book out there on par with Jack Vance’s Dying Earth series.
Often described as a literary science fiction epic. Immense futurity, travel through space and time, palaces within palaces, swordplay, wordplay, mercy that kills, lies becoming truths with the passing of time, etc.
Player of Games (Culture) (Ian M. Banks)
Probably the best of Ian Bank’s Culture novels. Strong characters and a light-hearted tone to the novel despite the “seriousness” of the actual plot make this an easy, addicting read. Come on people, as much as we like reading about world-shattering ideas, end of the universe problems, and defeat impossible alien invader odds, sometimes you just want to a fast read that doesn’t require too much commitment on your part. Player of Games is just that type of novel – you can jump into a rich world without committing to too much. And despite how easy it is to read, it’s a pretty damn good read to boot.
The Culture novels are about a Galactic spanning empire of hedonistic evolved humans where all supposed problems have been solved. This society and the workings of it are highly detailed by Banks.
The Night's Dawn (Peter F. Hamilton)
Hamilton’s best work – a magnificent space opera that’s as expansively epic as it is exciting. Hamilton’s later works are perhaps more refined and writing better, but this is his best work still. This is not a work of grand ideas along the lines of Foundation or Dune (though Hamilton creates a compelling vision of a humanity who’s conquered to void of space yet finds it is not the master after all) but it’s one hell of an adventure that tackles the death, the afterlife, and man’s primal fears.
On a distant planet humans find a mysterious device of potentially alien origin. Things go wrong when humans tinkering with it unleashes man’s darkest nightmare on the galaxy. Man though he conquered the void. But now the void is conquering back.
Gateway (HeeChee Saga) ( Frederick Pohl)
For a superb science fiction tale that straddles the perfect mix between hard and soft science fiction, Gateway take the cake. Gateway is a real page turner – something that many science fictions novels fail at. This is one of them more accessible science fiction reads out there; no need to wade through staggering concepts or follow along with dull characters and thin plot threads.
The critics loved it too; Gateway won the Nebula, Hugo, Locus, and Campbell awards in 1977/78.
Gateway features an every man character you can relate to, plenty of humor, and healthy dose of suspense that keeps the suspense up throughout the whole story. The prose too is good; concise and easy to read.
Spin (Robert Charles Wilson)
A novel of characters and ideas, one that melds to two together fluidly. It’s one of the best science fiction novels written in the “2000’s” and while it’s not yet a “classic”, it’s probably destined for classic status. Overall, this a wonderful read for those who want science fiction that not only tugs forth novel ideas but tugs on your emotions too.
This Hugo award winner poses the question if the earth remained static while the universe around it aged 100 million years for each earth year that passes. This is the premise of the story with a mysterious shield that suddenly surrounds the earth, while the universe “spins” through time around it. It’s a grand concept that brings with it a number of smaller issues such as with each passing year the chances of earth being destroyed by an outside force increases.
The human drama created by this Spin results from the motivations of the powers who installed the shield and the ultimate purpose of it. Then there is the rich emotional drama of how the ultimate End will impact humanity.
The Windup Girl (Paolo Bacigalupi)
This might not have the seminal influence that some of the “classics’ have on this list, but it’s a damn impressive novel – rich and atmospheric. The setting is a near future dystopia. All those bad things that you’ve heard can happen to the environment have happened and the world has been shaken up and new rules are in place.
The setting is unique and evocative, a futuristic Bangkok. The world is post-oil where there is very little petroleum and energy is provided by using genetically modified animals to wind up springs which are then used to power an array of machines. It’s a sort of steampunkish look at a future of sorts, but completely different than the usual blade-runnerish, vertical cities, flying cars, media-everywhere visions of the future present in most future-looking science fiction.
Anathem (Neal Stephenson)
Wow, what a ride from beginning to end. True to a Neal Stephenson tradition, it ties a number of completely different ideas and themes together into a (somehow) working thread. Stephenson returns to the science fiction genre after nearly 13 years and manages to reinvent the old wheel, but improve on it in many ways.
I know Stephenson has been mentioned on this list already with Snow Crash and there are a LOT of classics that could take this place; but Anathem was one of the best recent science fiction releases and because of that is on this list.
Science Fiction is not interested with extrapolation, but variation on existing ideas. Big Object hurtling towards earth. Parallel universes. Artificial Intelligence. That’s not to say contemporary science fiction hasn’t produced some outstanding works that explore these ideas more fully than the pioneers of the genre did, but the fact remains that very few “new” concepts are being explored.
Blindsight (Peter Watts)
Nominated for Hugo award, this is a “First Contact” novel that focuses just as much on a cast of troubled, flawed characters as it does on the alien contact premise. It’s a wonderful read and should be read if you want a different sort of First Contact story than the usual Science Fiction. This is one of the best Hard Science fiction novels of the past decade.
The story centers on Siri Keaton, a human with half a brain. He’s a member of the Theseus, a research vessel crewed by a number of superhuman misfits – all genetically and technologically modified to work in deep space. The crew quite accidentally encounter an alien lie form during a routine trip. It’s a novel of first contact that calls into question not the otherness of something not human, but the inhumanity that lies in a human. Watt’s gives a cold clinical view of the universe, yet at the same time breathes a deep life into his wounded characters.
Miles Vorkosigan Saga (Lois McMaster Bujold)
There’s a time for everything. There’s a time to read heavy novels filled with grand ideas and space, the universe, and the destiny of mankind through Hard Science Fiction. There’s a time to read meaningful discourse on the human condition through Soft Science Fiction. Then there’s just a time to sit back and read something that’s just pretty damn fun without having to think complex thoughts. Miles Vorkosigan is that read.
This is heroic, romantic space opera that has the best character writing and development in the entire genre.
The series follows the rise of prodigy Miles Vorkosigan, a young man with a crippled body but a brilliant mind, through his rise in the ranks as he takes on and conquers impossible odds with genius strategy. This is character-driven Space Opera that mixes in humor, comedy, tragedy and loss, politics,, military, and romance in various proportions. Lots of action, lots of adventure, and always fun, this is one of science fiction’s most endearing and enduring series. The first book was published in 1986 and the most recent in 2012.
thisismypost
Favorited. .. and downvoted
TheQuickAndTheDeadInUsersub
Ubik is a great book, but Phil K Dick has better work.
handyrzfg
Don't say that. I'm almost done...
spunoz
We actually emphasis with him
ibeandrew
The word "seminal" gets tossed around a lot here. Not unlike your mother, OP.
ZOMGNO
Seminal and Space Opera. Dear God, so many times
teamsprayfart
Rust - The Silo Saga. It may be the closest thing we'll ever see to a Fallout novel/series. Also, I believe it's being made into a movie.
nekekami
How is there no Alastair Reynolds?
ValentinGenev
You should read some of the Stanisław Lem and Strugatski's work.
rajetic
Strugatski's Roadside Picnic is very cool (the inspiration for the movie and game series Stalker).
seeamon
The Mote in God's Eye? Childhood's End? Stranger in a Strange Land? Ringworld? Jurassic Park? Come now.
farwall
"25 of the greatest", not "Literally all the greatest, no others count."
MagnustheJust
Downvoting due to lack of Verne or Wells...
IcyhotFeelsNice
The lack of Verne was displeasing. Talk about omitting a pioneer of many aspects of the genre today.
MagnustheJust
I went and downvoted the original as well. It would be like leaving Poe or Lovecraft out of a horror list...
PlbMak
No Larry Niven? Ringworld must have a mention!
Midniteoyl
those-who-lead-from-behind
stormelemental13
Points of Lois Mcmaster Bujold
MisterMetalMaker
Lets see what happens...
JcDent
Ian M. Banks books are good if you agree with his two ideas, the main that AIs will totes make everything better and be better than human
CirB
Not necessarily. His later works do concentrate more on AIs, but the early works (Consider Phlebas and Player of Games for example) are (1)
CirB
pretty incredible world-building and character works. Both got me feel the whole spectrum of emotions just for their characters. (2/2)
kapitanextreme
Basically the entire series deals with whether that premise is correct or not
cmpalmer
I kinda view the Minds as being Gods. Not omnipotent, but more like mostly altruistic Greek gods or guardian angels.
amazingchickens
This is pretty disingenuous.
chimchim666
I can enjoy an imaginitive telling of a point of view even if I don't 100% agree.
TheGhostMinx
I realize that this is a repost, but can I make a suggestion? It's called Armor. It's like Starship Troopers, and it's fantastic. It 1/2
justuschickens
Yes! Armor, by John Steakley. I was lured in by the powered suit and stayed for the story. Great read.
CirB
Seconded! Armor is incredible on so many levels. And the plot twists (especially late in the book) seriously made me lose my cool..
TheGhostMinx
goes in depth about the psychological "armor" that a soldier wraps himself in, not just the combat suits. It's a great read, I would say 2/2
Hybris51129
I bought this randomly at a cheap book sale and was thoroughly impressed best 25 cents I've spent in years.
upsidedownyhead
Wot, no Red Dwarf or Ringworld?
Ezzybells
Loved Ringworld.
upsidedownyhead
The scale of it got me. If you scale it down to 1m wide, with a 1mm lip, with a circumference of 600m, with 1mm = 1000 miles. Mindblowing.
Ejaws
or anything by Larry Niven, and Jerry Pournelle
ImgurisluvImgurislife
There is absolutely no way that The Windup Girl deserved a spot on this list over Ringworld. Sacrilege and blasphemy!
ChuanFaFist
No Mote in God's Eye is a crime in itself.
moreanalplease
even though it's very long, I did enjoy The Dark tower series by King.
susannahdeanofnewyork
That's what I was looking for!
fonebone77
That was more in the fantasy genre imo.
trlmssb
I'm half-way through the first book! And I can't wait to read more.
youreAlizardLarry
American Gods. Great book
ChuckTingleBattlesTheAssGoblinsofAuschwitz
That's fantacy fiction. Just finished it though. Amazing.
CirB
Yeah, just not really Sci-Fi.
youreAlizardLarry
Ya true, would it be fantasy or just fiction I guess?
CirB
Fantasy, I'd say.
youreAlizardLarry
Fantastic I'd say
mzmac
Any Book of the New Sun fans here? Just started the second book, and I haven't been so thoroughly hooked by a book in a while.
honeyacid
Yes. Currently rereading my Wolfe for the ~1478th time. (Okay, I might be a slightly unreliable narrator concerning the number.)
cmpalmer
Gene Wolfe is amazing and those books just get better when you re-read them.
Squeleton
-- Thecla and Severian "reuniting" so to speak, you know what I'm talking about. The whole living inner memory thing is so beautiful
Squeleton
It's my #1 series of all time, even after having read Vance and Asimov and Dick etc. Book two has one of the most beautiful quotes about-
Boopdog
No Zelazny, bad list
Squeleton
He never claimed to be a god, but then he never claimed not to be a god.
Boopdog
Circumstances being what they were, neither admission could be of any benefit. Silence, though, could.
Squeleton
Jack of Shadows was good but Lord of Light is one of those "welp, time to reread it for the 11th time" kind of novels. So friggin' good.
Boopdog
Every Zelazny novel was a different kind of experiment. _Isle of the Dead_ is the best one nobody reads.
Squeleton
Welp, I know what I'll be reading next.
PosteriorPuncturist
Altered Carbon and the Takeshi Kovacs series are some of the best books I've ever read.
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
Pretty much. Market Forces was also fantastic. Thirteen/Black Man left something to be desired. Have you read his fantasy trilogy?
PosteriorPuncturist
Not yet.
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
*MILD SPOILER* It's very well put together, if you don't mind a bit of graphic homoerotica. 1/2
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
2/2 Last half of book 3 was a let down, like he was rushed to make a deadline or something. Otherwise up to his usual quality.
Slander7
Agree on all points. The homoerotica totally threw me since the first clue you get that the protagonist is gay is a graphic sex scene.
seeamon
I loved Altered Carbon, but didn't really care for Broken Angels that much. Is Woken Furies more like the first or the second?
Lyrian
Altered Carbon was the best one from my perspective.
PosteriorPuncturist
It is more psychological that Broken Angels. It dives into Quellism more.
Slander7
Broken Angels was an odd divergence to more conventional sci fi.
Slander7
AC is by far the best, but I liked WF a lot better than the second one.
ImAlwaysRelevantLOL
My dad's favourite book was snow crash. I never got around to reading it until after he passed. Sentiments everywhere :'(
SilverSpades
My AP English high school teacher made us read this. Only one I took the time off to read out of the many assigned... NoRagrets still passed
ikissalldabirds
What? No Ray Bradbury? This makes me sad. He was my intro to sci/fi.
assuh9
I'm glad this comment was here it's all I could think.
thepundom
Have you read his short story about the girl on Venus? (Can't remember the name)
ikissalldabirds
I'm pretty sure I've read all of his works, but it's been 25 years..
IndifferentSky
More Asimov. End of Eternity? The Gods Themselves?
Verelse
More Clarke? Childhood's End?
OliverClothesoff70
I, Robot
WelshyinColombia
The stars like dust by Asimov, loved it.
AzgarOgly
I'd consider most of these books as a start of the journey through authors works or whole bunch of authors.
andyskeels
Also H. Beam Piper?
andyskeels
And Gordon Dickson?
cow042
or EE doc smith and his Lensman series.
SomeoneCallKennyLogginsBecauseYoureInTheDANGERZONE
Or Yevgeny Zamyatin's We? Arguably, he inspired Orwell and several other sci-fi writers.
aheh89
The gods themselves is probably my favorite assimov novel.
whooshby
I love his stories and ideas, but there is barely any character development. I've read Foundation Tril. and I, Robot.
hoeya
The ideas are the characters. The characters, for the most part, are merely vehicles for the ideas. There are exceptions, however.
DieterPinklage
Well said. R. Daneel Olivaw is one of my favorite characters in sci-fi. The end of Foundation & Earth blew my mind. Also love Arkady Darell.
hoeya
R. Daneel was one of those exceptions that I was thinking of. He had great development throughout all of the various series.
andyskeels
Also H. Beam Piper?
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
Foundation is amazing. So happy HBO has picked it up.
Midniteoyl
Wait, what?
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
http://www.thewrap.com/interstellars-jonah-nolan-developing-foundation-series-for-hbo-wbtv-exclusive/
Midniteoyl
Nice! Thanks!
IndifferentSky
Lolwut? !!? !!!!!!!!
Retsam19
I'm working my way through the Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), and it's pretty phenomenal.
permalaise
One of the best series ever written
kalijinn
classic!
Wrongleveeeeeeer
KSR is my all-time favorite author. Nothing will top the epic Mars Trilogy, but Galileo's Dream is fucking fantastic. Super original.
kapitanextreme
Definitely try some of Robinson's other work, but Red Mars is one of my favourites
Retsam19
Yeah, I've heard 2312 is sort of a spiritual sequel to the Mars trilogy, so I might pick that up next.
Nibblitz
I'm about to finish the last one. Way to go.
deejdart
One of the best. I've read it so many times
SaintMaceToTheFace
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bangersandcastle
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forensicwarrior
cool
XenomorphZZ
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stuggabutt
Had to sign back in. I have re-read this series three times now. Hate that it ends
Nibblitz
Don't say that. I'm almost done...
stuggabutt
It's a good long ride but it does have to come to an end. :) may I recommend "cryptonomicon" when you are done.
helpnonamesareleft
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StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
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MellowButDramatic
Signed back in to say: what an epic series. Brilliant mix of science and science fiction.
FentonCrackshell
Omg, I love those books! Forgot all about them.
jonestown
no Lem?
permalaise
100%, I loved solaris
ValentinGenev
The Wall, man... America haven't heard much about Eastern Europe. "GREATEST... EVER WRITTEN" tho... Strugatski aren't on the list too.
Mergul
No Lem, no upvote. That is my rule.
Thistles
Right? Don't bother asking OP to justify it though; he just stole this post.
madnessfromthesea
The Cyberiad was great!
Allusernameshavebeenchosen
Lem was a genius. I love Tales of Pirx the Pilot. First sf I ever read.
Owlchimedes
Ursula K. LeGuin needs to be on such a list, with either The Left Hand of Darkness or The Dispossessed.
cow042
or EE doc smith and the Lensman Series.
Justineer
I didn't even realize she wrote Sci-Fi. I only knew her for the Earthsea series. Cool!
bythetimeyoufinishreadingthisyouwillhaverealizeditsaysnothing
Seriously. Was about to comment with just this.
DavidAttenboroughsSultryVoice
With no The Left Hand of Darkness, the list is null and void.
darmir
The Dispossessed was awesome. A brilliant book with great characters and concepts.
howdoiscience
Agreed, I am annoyed by how often Ursula K. LeGuinn and Octavia Butler are ignored with these lists.
ActualCannibalShia
Was thinking the same thing. Just telling my friend about Left Hand earlier.
DDPB9k5G
are they related? does it matter which one is read first?
Mithi
As Boobdog said. I also recommend her short-story anthologies, some stories set in the Hainish-Verse, some stand-alone.
Boopdog
Only peripherally related, order doesn't matter. To oversimplify, Dispossessed is about economic utopias, Left Hand is about gender issues.
SuperSupply
Was going to say the same, and I don't see any Bradbury.
Eggdoodle
I can't favorite this comment so I'm commenting for documentation purposes.
bythetimeyoufinishreadingthisyouwillhaverealizeditsaysnothing
Seriously. Was about to comment with just this.
Timelady18
You're also missing Octavia Butler, Anne McCaffery, and Madeline L'Engle.
WhoWantsAMustacheRide
I was thinking the same thing.
undercovergiraffe
OP is reposting several of the highest scoring posts of all time, including this one.
kungfuskunk
I DON'T CARE
DoubleDeckerTrombone
Reposts like this are ok
FsImgur
I've never seen any of these posts. So suck it.
bi11ionaire
and without the summaries
sickreference
"flippingimgur" is the username. Do you know what flipping is?
Digindeep
Really, its okay... As long as it informs folks.
tomyironmane
what do you want from a bundle of sticks like OP?
InCaseOfStairsUseFire
I wonder if someone re-posted something and then gave credit to the original poster, if people would still complain? Honest question.
NinjasStoleMyMama
Well, his username is flippingimgur. I assume it's like flipping houses so yeah, he's probably recycling all his posts.
Rengii
Tumblr has been informed. The Justice Warriors are on the way.
shakeydog
Good! I hadn't seen it so now I favorited it.
pronacc
Favoriting and dislikeing.
KalleSchnikov
I haven't seen it before and i'm glad i just did.
Spalooga
He should have at least posted the descriptions that were in the original
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
While you're right, I kinda like jumping into a book/movie knowing absolutely nothing about it.
jackpkmn
No one noticed his name?
TheCornDogger
doesn't matter still a repost robofag
OPmakesOC
what does flippingimgur have to do with that?
jackpkmn
flipping is when you buy something, fix it and sell it for more. In this case reposting.
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
Thankfully I can favorite and downvote at the same time.
tomyironmane
top comment is the original post OP ripped off, from two years ago, with a brief blurb for each book. Fave that.
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
I probably already did two years ago. Faverget is a real thing. However, this repost got me into foundation, which I'm now deep into.
tomyironmane
I never got into Asimov's longer works, but his short stories were pretty darn good.
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
That's what I'm liking about Foundation, it's a collection of connected short stories.
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
I have no choice but to favorite because i love sci-fi novels, and am newer to imgur. But I'm doing it regretfully cause of it being repost.
BuckBoost
Then you'll love "Taken by the T-Rex".
Kiwi31415
You can favourite then downvote if you want.
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
"This is my favorite thing to hate"
HelloIAmAnInnocentBystander
Then go to the source! http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com. The original was a straight copy of this site.
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
It wasn't a big enough deal to me haha
forensicwarrior
Brilliant! Thanks!
MrtheOffender
Stranger in a Strange Land is also from Robert Heinlein (Star ship troopers) That should also be on the list, ill reply with a link.
dorkyYorky
My fav from Heinlein is Citizen of the Galaxy
MrNoodlemansbrother
"Time Enough for Love" and "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" were my favorites.
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
I really like Revolt in 2100, too.
FentonCrackshell
Bought that book at a yard sale when I was 15, loved it ever since. Really felt like it gave me an insight into what it was like in the '60s
GatesOfMordor
His books sparked an enduring love of sci-fi when I was the same age. It was old print then yet so futuristic!
DeathByTeacup
My Dad gave me that book when I was 14. He apparently forgot about all the sex... fucking fantastic book, though
Verelse
I forget about the sex in that book... not important to the plot. Heinlein was a horndog, but a fantastic writer.
DeathByTeacup
I haven't read it in a while, but I remember the sex being pretty important for the main character's development.
Wrongleveeeeeeer
I logged in just to post this, and here you are already being awesome. Stranger in a Strange Land is probably my favorite book of all time.
MrtheOffender
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/starship-troopers-and-stranger-in-a-strange-land-robert-a-heinlein/1116425452?ean=9781435152069
MrtheOffender
This copy has the Unedited Stranger in a Strange Land, as well as Star Ship Troopers.... and it looks good on a shelf
kylebad7776
The Puppet Masters was great too.
chimchim666
Stranger had good ideas, but also Jubal was clearly a Heinlein stand-in that was very self-congratulatory. There's also some terrible (1)
chimchim666
ideas about women, and especially about rape. Very flawed. (2/2)
MrtheOffender
I remember Jubal being a very circular character, but I don't remember bad rape things, from what i remember he told women to kill rapists
chimchim666
there's a line: "9/10 when a girl gets raped, it's a least partly her fault". i read the expanded version so it might not have been in yours
MrtheOffender
I will have to reread it, the book is quite sexist, but a product of its time. He was in his 20's before women could even vote, i have a 1/
MrtheOffender
Trip coming up, Ill send you a msg after i've reread the book, I love literature discussions
prettierandyoungerbutnotanybetteroff
That one really makes you think, as does The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Heinlein was so far ahead of his time in his creativity.
CirB
The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is one that gets re-read every now and then. Has aged surprisingly little, actually.
prettierandyoungerbutnotanybetteroff
I'm still waiting for clan marriages to be legalized ;).
CirB
Won't be happening anytime soon, at least not here on Earth. Even in the Moon it only came out due to gender disparity.
prettierandyoungerbutnotanybetteroff
That's true. It'd be very interesting to see it in action though.
Hautamaki
Actually, the movie Starship Troopers is an underrated brilliant and prescient takedown of the fascism promoted in the novel.
Midniteoyl
Why is people think the movie was anything like the book? The movie, while entertaining, was a farce.
noppatoppa
Every time this is posted I come to say the same thing and get downvoted :D
AStainlessSteelRat
Well, far be it from me to stop you from your destined path...
Midniteoyl
Love the name, Slippery Jim ;)
AStainlessSteelRat
Dankon, tre komplezemaj :)
Midniteoyl
Ne dankinde
HellHound989
http://www.kentaurus.com/troopers.htm
warick
Awesome read! I'd never seen that before.
AzgarOgly
It's very shallow to take a Starship Troopers society as a faschist.
DogMurderShame
Don't forget the film has teh bewbz
BigHandz
beeeeewwwwbbzzz
Mrwhoever
it might not be as apparent as in the first one but it really shows in the other movies, though I did like the book alot more
dirtcreature
Or overrated, pretentious cat food that could have been done seriously and been an *amazing* movie.
afbujinkan
Yup. Leftist director reads half a book and makes a 'subtle' movie on it to make fun of Heinlein.
rophiandis
I honestly like it better than the boring, boring novel. I mean the book has some interesting ideas, but it's soooo dry
malexmatt
Wasn't the movie essentially completed before they decided to name it Starship Troopers?
athaclena
They made some script changes after buying the rights. Verhoeven didn't read more than a few chapters of the novel by his own admission.
Midniteoyl
It was written as 'Bug Wars' or something like that due to not getting the rights to Starship Troopers.
eggmuffin
Indeed. people give it shit for being nothing like the book, but fail to appreciate what it brings to the table.
eggmuffin
The book and the movie share nothing but a name, and should not be held to each others' standards.
noppatoppa
The movie is a parody of the books tone and the society proposed in the book. Yes, I've read the book. It was horrid, writing and vision.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
We studied it in film school - there's a lot more going on then most ppl realize. A bunch of white ppl, speaking English in buenos aires!
WalterOdimm
Go N.W.O.!!!!
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
And in one of the news reports they say in passing that 3 American presidents died in an explosion - America has fallen in this world.
WalterOdimm
It's been a while since I've watched the movie. You've motivated me to revisit this great film.
madnessfromthesea
I found it to be a combination of three books - Starship Troopers/Heinlein, Armor/Steakley, & War Against the Chtorr/Gerrold.
JohnBlevins
Aside from fighting giant bugs, I don't see the parallels with Armor.
mysteryroach
Definitely. The book is uninteresting and low-brow while the movie is vastly more subtle.
visualvendetta
Gawd, do I love that movie!
RedcoatMic
Don't see how you think it's low brow, the entire book is basically an essay on meta-ethics.
catsonmeth
Well it IS the exact opposite of subtle. He literally lectures the reader several times, and the ideas just feel like a jarhead whacking off
AfunkyMonkey
Totally agree. Just finished the book. Was pretty disappointed
aCoolBreezeOnAHotSummerDay
Saw the movie 3 times in the theater. Thought it was great. Just recently read the book and enjoyed that as well.
OliverClothesoff70
Would you like to know more?
darmir
rajetic
I did, but then I saw the sequels. :(
JohnBlevins
There were no sequels. Just like there were no Matrix sequels.
Aliencow
I feel you. :(
HellHound989
Why oh fucking why do people still think that's what the novel was preaching?? This fucking myth just won't die
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
I just read the novel and got zero fascism from it. Just seemed like any military memoir to me. Bloody good one too.
Cyberwere
Because it seems very few people actually READ the novel. I swear they just read the blurb on the back of the paperback and call it good nuf
noppatoppa
I've read the novel and to an European it's horrendous. Not fascism like Fox News likes to call out, but the actual kind.
noppatoppa
Oh you down vote me, but you know I'm right. And be honest with yourself, it's fascism you want if you want the society of the book :)
HellHound989
http://www.kentaurus.com/troopers.htm breaks down the novel
noppatoppa
Plus you might want to brush up on the society the book describes. I could enjoy it as dystopia thing if it was written better.
noppatoppa
I've read that too, and still disagree.
DanteA
Thanks for the link. I think that writer is correct on pretty much everything.
noppatoppa
And in that breakdown the fascism is just passed over with just "nahhah, it is NOT".
HellHound989
Ok, your not understanding it at all. Sorry to be wasting my time
Aliencow
I totally agree. Some people just don't understand the sarcastic/cynical view of war and propaganda in this great movie.
TheLastNalbinder
Would you like to know more?
Keru
Lots of people think Robocop is just an action movie too.
Mostlydeadpool
I'd buy that for a dollar!
ImgurisluvImgurislife
You should visit Detroit. You'll learn Robocop was not a movie but a documentary
AgentSuperball
New Robocop or original Robocop?
Keru
There is only one Robocop movie.
CodenameAstrosloth
Exactly. I'm surprised how many people don't get it's a satire on jingoism and fascism. They're wearing Nazi uniforms for a reason.
OverpricedCrayon
Before SST the director was trying to get a movie made from the perspective of German citizens when Nazis came to power 1/?
OverpricedCrayon
He wanted to show how easy it was to fall into the trap of all the great things the nazi's were promising. Movie studios didn't want 2/?
OverpricedCrayon
...to touch it. So they subtlety snuck things into Starship Troopers including the uniforms. It was his way of making the movie he wanted 3
joliegoalie
I told my friends to replace bugs with Jews to understand better
DMGuy
To be fair, just because something is satire doesn't mean it's *good* satire.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
Bingo
BigHandz
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?!
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
the only good bug is a dead bug!
dragonraven13
He's doing his part! Are YOU?
visualvendetta
Yeah, but it ran deeper.The cartoonish representation of a fascist society ran parallel with the obligation to defend it militarily.Tension.
Midniteoyl
However, the book's government was nothing like the movies...
noppatoppa
Weeeeellll, not true actually. Hyperbole, yes, but still. For example the notion of earned citizenship is kinda horrid.
Midniteoyl
/2 having 'full' citizenship.
Midniteoyl
Full citizenship (to vote and hold office) required service. Everything else was already granted. Rico's father was rich despite not 1/
noppatoppa
To vote and to hold office == the actual, concrete, means of making positive change in society. "Handicapped? No voting for you." Fascism.
noppatoppa
In modern western democratic societies EVERYONE has the right to vote and to hold office. These are the democracies that fascism opposed.
noppatoppa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
visualvendetta
I think the author struggled with an unconscious fascination with fascism throughout many of his books. Tunnel In The Sky?
dpidcoe
e.g. they go from no specific leader to a defacto leader to someone everyone considers a leader to electing a leader to having a council 2/2
visualvendetta
Yes, but the culture they emerged from was clearly this hardened, Spartan-type, militaristic society.
dpidcoe
It was a device to drive the plot. Replace it with a soft society of hippies and you've got no story.
visualvendetta
Disagree. Hippies with no survival instinct would be even a better story. You're being very aggressive so I elect not to talk to you.
PuuperttiRuma
For what I've heard it was very conscious fascination.
visualvendetta
I don't read enough scifi to know for sure, but I have read Heinlein and he's def into a sort of "Nazi Youth" mystique.
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
I find his biggest fascination was polygamy and nudies....
visualvendetta
So I have something in common!
dpidcoe
Did you even read that book? It was basically an essay exploring different forms of government, how they evolve/when they're effective 1/2
visualvendetta
I've read several Heinlein books. If you look at the other comments in this stream, you'll find my interpretations are hardly extreme.
dpidcoe
You said tunnel in the sky was showing a fascination with fascism. I don't see how you could possibly get that from unless you're confused.
visualvendetta
You're extremely excitable, my teenager friend. Look at the comment I just posted.
fadingtheory
Unpopular Opinion: I don't understand why people like Ender's Game. Neat idea, but the writing felt so dry and lifeless to me.
sanguis4k
I liked it but I think it is a book that is pretty polarising, same as scalzi's books for me. I never found him that great really
SirJamiekingmaker
I feel the same way
GarikEast
I really think I was lucky to read that as a teenager. The writing and characters really aren't amazing, but the plots and ideas are great.
Jimmygarn
Interesting, the dynamics and fluidity of the writing was what got me hooked on Orson SC. :D
hurrdurr69
It's a children's book, people like to say its good because they feel smart for understanding it.
madnessfromthesea
He rewrote/edited it at least once. The current edition is a bit different than the first.
prettierandyoungerbutnotanybetteroff
I felt exactly this way about Dune. The structure of it all seemed to mute the epic-ness of the tale for me. Felt bad, man.
RexFury
Yeah, there's this great plot going on but it was like a watching a tv movie of something...
RexFury
Took me awhile to get past that and really lose myself in the book. A couple of tries, actually
samvimesbootstheory
I liked it, but the author gives a lot of money to anti-gay organizations, so I'm glad I bought the book used.
chimchim666
yeah, that's why I'm giving away my books. if i want to re-read them, library.
Verelse
He lives here in Greensboro and writes articles for a local weekly that is anti-everyone-but-corporations. Seems nice in person. Weird.
MrSlater
And his siblings' subplot was just too unbelievable
ImgurisluvImgurislife
Am I the only one that realizes it's the Ender Quintet now? Ender in Exile was published in 2008 and is now the 2nd book in the series
BartimaeusTheFat
I love the series and I own almost all of them. I'm not sure if Ender's game even should count in the quintet the tone is so different.
chimchim666
Ender In Exile pretty heavily references the Shadow Saga though, so if you're counting that, you may as well count all the Shadow books.
cuttlefishsticks
I just call it the Ender Saga, because he keeps adding more and I can't keep up.
Babkawk
I think it speaks to people who have struggled against what seemed insurmountable. Speaker for the Dead was better anyway.
Verelse
The best novel he's written so far.
BartimaeusTheFat
I like the shadow series.
CirB
Speaker for the Dead is incredible, but also so heavy a read (IMO), that I haven't re-read it in ages (unlike Ender's Game)
xLiamHaHax
Really, I was massively disappointed. The first chapter set up for a great book. Then it fell into old cliché.
SovietWrench
It's a great book for engaging young people into the genre and into reading in general. I doubt I would feel the same way about it if I (1)
SovietWrench
read it now, but at the time I was 13 and didn't know that reading could be so rewarding or that science fiction could be so engaging. (2)
xXCutieMomokoXx
Now I feel like I'm gonna be dissapointed when I read it. I've read a few sci-fi just hope it's still as good as I'm hoping
SovietWrench
If I had never read Ender's Game then, I probably wouldn't have read Hyperion or 2001. (3)
silaswanders
As a writer, I loved the fluidity and change of themes. Though the last two books in the Quintet were wtf fairy tale-ish.
ImgurisluvImgurislife
Though they kind of were, I still love ever book in the series with all my heart. Even Ender in Exile
BartimaeusTheFat
They were very abstract, but they dealt in some pretty deep ethics.
BartimaeusTheFat
Hey, you're the same person!
ImgurisluvImgurislife
And so are you!
silaswanders
Oh, I loved them for that! That series came to define my childhood thinking into adulthood. It was just the ending that made me confused.
BartimaeusTheFat
The whole part with the new Peter, or the just the whole outside the universe shenanigan?