Chimichanga007
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One reason Trump is president: the arrogance of Hillary Clinton.
Dec 4, 2016 6:51 PM
Chimichanga007
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One reason Trump is president: the arrogance of Hillary Clinton.
mumumumumysharona
squelcheswetly
Shitpost aside, there is no "one reason" for anything.
brosephpulitzer
You lost the popular vote by over 2m votes, dude.
SaffronTeabagPierogi
Yes. Trump is an epitome of humbleness.
Bigemedic
Ignoring the fact that far more people voted for someone other than Trump....
eclect0
To be fair, a lot of people did vote for her, just not in the states that matter.
TheStreetForce
To be faaaaiiirrr
FrenchPressBenchPress
did she actually say this though? and who tf is actually upvoting these if all the top comments are repudiating the post?
DreadLordPikachu
That's a great question. Seems to be a pattern recently.
TheGrubermeister
Quit beating the horse. It's dead. Maggots are eating its eyes.
guairdean
Some classify it as a "deplorable" situation.
MosesSupposesHisToesesAreRosesButMosesSupposesErroneously
she may have been a bit of a basket case
Brocktooon
Hushing
Seems about as awesome as just going ahead and shitting yourself to spite a plumber you find arrogant. Clinton will be fine. An awful lot...
Hushing
...who think this 'awesome' won't be.
QuiteQueefy
That's the truth right there
DVSBSTrD
She never said that.
StupidAnswer
Man countries with awful voting systems right guys
thisuserdoesnotexisthere
Are you sure this isn't photoshopped?
hitshappens
Well, that and the existence of a political system that idealizes human nature while ignoring what retarded beasts we really are.
Mothergooch
I'm especially retarded myself
LivingInYourIntestines
Gosh I mean, I'm jaded by the utter ignorance of my fellow people but at the same time you have to hope, because letting one man decide 1/2
LivingInYourIntestines
our fates is equally scary, lest his benevolence run dry 2/2
hitshappens
Youre going in the opposite direction of what I was intending. I meant the electoral college is bad because not enough people vote
xzhous
@OP I peeked at your submission history. Dude. The salt. Bernie and Hillary both lost partly due to low turnout among younger voters
xzhous
Go strengthen your base and support Sanders/Warren/far left platforms cuz that's more impactful than pushing a rigged primary conspiracy
Chimichanga007
Don't tell me what to do, you're not my real Dad
SomeCrazyNerd
They're not far left by western standards except for America.
xzhous
We need a safe space from the word "socialism" so you can imagine how triggered some people may get when they hear "single-payer healthcare"
SomeCrazyNerd
Yes McCarthyism is alive and well in America you've still got paranoia running around about stronger left always being communist.
xoverthirtyx
*STUPID!STUPID!STUPID!*
Chimichanga007
jeje
xoverthirtyx
I saw this post in Usersub today OP, congrats on the fp
ek321
The next US President is going to be a psychotic, narcissist man-child whom I fear will destabilize the entire world into a tailspin... 1/
ek321
Changes nothing, so don't take time out of whining about how the nasty GOP messes everything up to vote in 2018 or anything. *cheers*!
ek321
But you sure showed Hillary the price of not being "inspiring" and "hip" enough, so TOTALLY WORTH IT, amirite? And remember, voting 2/
phe0n1x
IMO, Trump won because he made the election feel like it was about the voters, Clinton made it about her. 1/2
Chimichanga007
/2 of mice and men...
phe0n1x
"Make America Great Again" vs "I'm With Her". An "us" vs "me" situation in my mind. 2/2
Chimichanga007
Corp media colluded with Clinton campaign to boost his exposure, hoping for his nomination and an easy opponent. The best laid plans
drj37
Or "Remember when your supporters were insufferable assholes so people wouldn't say they weren't voting for you so you thought you were...
shawnemack
Insufferable assholes? Yeah, trump supporters were all wonderful caring people. Get a fucking grip.
DVSBSTrD
The Bernie brigade on imgur was WAY more insufferable than any Hillary supporter I've ever met.
drj37
going to win by a landslide, and then you didn't and they were all shocked and threw a temper tantrum?"
Chimichanga007
That was awesome!
0manuellabor0
Your country is in need of some serious electoral reform. How about a none of the above option?
SomeCrazyNerd
(Whispers in Australian) Preferences. Use preferences.
o11c
Most of the strongly-democratic states voted to abolish the Electoral college years ago. Republican states are having none of it.
cantsImaginationSmasher
That's because urban areas with the highest population lean Democratic, Electoral College levels the playing field against that.
0manuellabor0
Isn't one person one vote a kind of already level playing field? Like, isn't the E.C doing the opposite of that for the people?
Chimichanga007
down with that, fo sure
0manuellabor0
It seems to make sense. and if non of the above wins, a new election with new candidates? Also, maybe a viable 3rd party?
sangheraj
Problem with third parties were that somehow they were more unappealing this election cycle than both trump and Clinton. The lack of 1/2
sangheraj
Coverage helped them get nearly this far.
0manuellabor0
Yeah, I feel like that's why NOW is the time to put something together. Make that shit in the public mindset before the election, you dig?
amglasgow
The other reason why Trump is president: The arrogance of democrats who want a ideologically pure candidate instead of one who got shit done
MarshmallowFluffernutterPie
You mean like starting global thermonuclear war kinda shit?
TearingAway
lololol arrogance of dems....bahaha i just cant. Tell the neo-nazis here every weekend how arrogant they arent pls
snewsh
Democrats couldnt stop saying hillary deserved to be president cause she was a woman. Their newsn pieces couldnt stop parroting it.
sangheraj
That is such an overused straw man. I love in the most liberal state in America yet that has never been given as a reason to vote Clinton.
TearingAway
according to conservatives, its the only reason anyone voted for her though. MIsinformation will be the new norm, get used to it:/
Chimichanga007
Like losing to Trump? That kind of "shit done?" even with the backing of Wall Street, and 90% of the media, and a biased primary?
heynongman4pres
Wall Street is firmly behind Trump and the GOP congress now. If you really care about the issue, fight them, not fellow Democrats.
Chimichanga007
Democratic leadership is in the same people's pockets. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
heynongman4pres
Undue influence on both parties to be sure, but Democrats at least offer a vision of reasonable regulation and fair tax rates.
heynongman4pres
Undue influence on both parties to be sure, but Democrats at least offer a vision of reasonable regulation and fair tax rates.
Chimichanga007
A vision? I judge by their actions in recent history.
snewsh
As someone from cali, i can attest against these "fair tax rates"
heinleinfan
I doubt Hillary would be on her way to starting a war with China before she was even sworn in ...
Sully0811
That's because she was trying to start one with Russia
Christx30
Trump took a phone call That's it. That's all he did. Everyone needs to chill.
heinleinfan
You're just delusional if you think that's "all he did". Simply delusional.
snewsh
People need to shut up about it.
Christx30
China frequently bitches whenever there is contact with someone that they don't like. See US contact with Dalai Lama
snewsh
America sells weapons and our defense secretaries have frequent contact with Taiwan. Hell, we have a defense pact with them.
snewsh
People need to shut up about it.
Chimichanga007
Russia more her style
SomeCrazyNerd
Russia would never go the war with America they'd lose.
cr4zyiv4n
Who ever wins that war, the global community as a whole is fucked. Even if it doesn't go nuclear, 'winning' would be a relative term.
snewsh
People seem olto ignore this fact. She said shed put a no fly zone over syria. Shed mess that country up exactly like libya.
anthracithe
I am pretty sure that country is already messed up.
snewsh
And russia would not stand for it.
JackCoughlin
What the fuck does that even mean? Does Russia have a natural way of just shutting that whole thing down? "We wanna go to war" -no-
fabianvazquez262
nukes?
walkertalker0000
Good point. Trump isn't known for his arrogance.
o11c
Trump is arrogant, but he didn't feel *entitled*.
WristDeepInaBook
Thekingofbeans
When a baby poos itself nobody bats an eye but when I do it I "didn't get the job" and need to be "escorted from the building."
Mushroombadger
That's not at all what OP claimed...
walkertalker0000
Op said one reason Trump is prez-elect is the arrogance of Hil. Fine, but both candidates seem to be in a similar boat
Mushroombadger
It's the things her arrogance caused not the fact that she was arrogant.
walkertalker0000
Fair enough. Now we wait for the things Trumps arrogance causes. The theme for this presidency will be "unintended consequences".
Mushroombadger
Only time will tell. Personally hope for the best since no one benefits from a shitty presidency. "Told you so" wont be much comfort.
Ruhig
It's more that she could have really differentiated herself as the non-arrogant-asshole candidate.
LivingInYourIntestines
Personally, I think it was because she was trying too hard to play to the whims of her party and ended up looking like their puppet.
TraitorousTrump3
Or maybe 50,000,000 people believed Cheeto's lies. Blatant, stupid, nutjob lies.
dranago
The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
ps238principal
Arrogance? As opposed to the "humility" of Trump? Wait, is this how "drain the swamp" meant "more lobbyists and vulture capitalists"?
zackofspades
Anyone who chants/believes a slogan like "drain the swamp" is a fucking moron. No exceptions.
boomslander
Yeah. Or "Stronger Together", "Yes We Can", "Compassionate Conservatism", "Putting People First"....
zackofspades
I'm saying that the "swamp" is largely bureaucrats who are lifers. Trumps isn't moving them and if thats why you voted him FUCK YOU.
boomslander
I didn't vote for him. If you fall for fucky political catch phrases try truly educating yourself.
zackofspades
You're completely right, I was just attempting to make a more nuanced point about that specific choice of phrase.
iguessihaveto
They mean compared to Bernie. If you look at county maps of the general election, you see it's split between rural and urban- cities mostly1
TheThingNoNotThatOne
It was recently discovered that the Rust Belt swing states liked Hillary economically, but preferred Trump on immigration and terrorism 1/2
TheThingNoNotThatOne
I don't see Bernie besting him on that, and I think a lot of those regions wouldn't like his socialist message. 2/2
SomeCrazyNerd
We'll never know no. Unless by some freak chance Bernie doesn't retire by then and decides to go again.
SomeCrazyNerd
We'll never know no. Unless by some freak chance Bernie doesn't retire by then and decides to go again.
iguessihaveto
Voted Hillary, country went Trump. But the same thing happened in the Dem primary. For example, Bernie won most of nys, Hillary won NYC 2
fredgiblet
A lot of people wanted change, and that's what Bernie represented, when Clinton took the primary those people voted Trump.
iguessihaveto
and Syracuse. Now, there are fewer rural Dems, but there are way more rural independents who didn't even find out about Bernie until too 3
iguessihaveto
Late to pick a party for the primaries, there was heavy voter roll purging right before them, and th he news and den party pulled a lot 4
iguessihaveto
Of dubious tricks to keep him out. He was only ever mentioned in the news as a punchline followed by a strong Hillary quote. The assumption
notme222
This is entirely possible. But you must admit that Bernie supporters being convinced their guy would have won aren't being 100% objective.
iguessihaveto
Objectivity is irrelevant. I'm not convinced he would have won. I'm convinced we could have had better prospects in both parties if if the
iguessihaveto
News had treated it like a reasonable discussion of how we wanted our country run instead of treating it like a freak show
iguessihaveto
Or if the parties recognized that the political bullcrap that was allowed to fly fifteen years ago is no longer relevant. People are worried
hangar
What I still can't figure out is how a new york billionaire convinced people he would help small town america
DonaldJTrump
combatwombat9966
From his golden tower sitting on his golden throne
Nikoli23
As a native southerner, it really blows my mind that the south voted for a northern billionaire who likes fucking over contractors.
iguessihaveto
He didn't. They were just happy he kept reminding the world they were there and kept pissing off the liberals on purpose.
shawnemack
He kept attacking NAFTA and kept saying he'd stop jobs from being outsourced. It was total bullshit, of course, but they fell for it.
Iwillhaveoneofeverything
I am in a big city and I spoke to someone who left their small town bc there is no more jobs (i.e small businesses). He knows a lot of 1/
Iwillhaveoneofeverything
ppl that never left and were disillusioned. I feel like Clinton gave reasonable promise of economic plan while Trump said food on table. 2/
Iwillhaveoneofeverything
I feel like living in the city I live in a bubble. Hearing about his town definitely made me try to think more complexly about other voters
Chimichanga007
He didn't. People wanted to shake up a broken system. Hillary was the embodiment of that system. ANY chance at change was judged better.
shawnemack
And now that he's packed the place with the same old republicans, how's that broken system looking? Drain the swamp? More like fill it up
Chimichanga007
didn't say they were right, just explained the why. But it goes to show that there was only an illusion of choice.
shawnemack
Or maybe people are easily fooled into voting for an obvious liar. That says more about the voters than it does about the system.
hangar
Change is good, but if we keep electing people who won't compromise, we make zero progress. Politics IS compromise
EvarettForevar
Literally no choices that would have made you happy . Fucking Jill stein was found out to be sucking Hilary's balls instead
hangar
The recount was nonpartisan. Michigan miscounted many votes because of shitty machines. They wanted better machines
Chimichanga007
There is no compromise with those that hold all the cards, those that own the political elite have no need to compromise with us.
Chimichanga007
They simply make policy, public opinion be damned.
hangar
I'm curious. Who do you think owns Hillary Clinton? We don't even know who Donald Trump owes money to. He won't tell us.
heynongman4pres
I'm seeing a lot of pro Trump pride at the moment, we'll see about the fall. Your man is historically unpopular & lost the pop. vote.
dgice
How is this pro-trump?
Gurablashta
Hating Hillary doesn't make you a Trumpy/Trumpist
LosPer
Keep telling yourself that your candidate was better because they won the popular vote...as Trump proceeds to unwind completely Obama's leg
prisoner6defaultxskyrimxname9
Just cause it's anti Hillary doesnt mean it's pro trump I thought they were both terrible
Rayxzerox
Thats true but this mentality that they were even remotely equal in terribleness is what got us here.
DonaldJTrump
aleister94
I legitimately believe he will resign if enough people make fun of him
heinleinfan
I am 100% positive he will quit. He simply does not, in any way, have the strength of character for this position.
shawnemack
I think he'll get impeached by the GOP so they can have Pence in charge but they'll wait for the right opportunity
captainasspirate
I am 100% positive you are just another "donald trump will never do this" person who will be proven dead wrong, again.
heinleinfan
You are a garbage human.
captainasspirate
... really? not only are you way too quick to insult, you suck at it too? You have my pity
captainasspirate
... really? not only are you way too quick to insult, you suck at it too? You have my pity
FreshPrinceofDenmark
What do you mean "your man?" OP can hate Hillary while also hating Trump. Hell, I voted for her and I still think she's an awful woman.
RandomActOfConfusion
This sums up the election nicely. I wasn't for Hillary, I was against Trump
SurfHill
And so many folks felt the same, but thought Hillary would win so voted Trump to show their distaste, then woke up Wednesday and were WTF?!
heynongman4pres
Sure, that's possible. Just not very likely.
SomeCrazyNerd
Actually I think most Democrats agreed she wasn't trustoworthy enough or inspiring. They just hate Trump more.
FreshPrinceofDenmark
I agree with the post entirely and I'm a registered Democrat. Hillary Clinton can burn in hell for all I care. Still don't like Trump though
erincpotterart
Same here
heynongman4pres
I'm not sure if I believe hell exists. What a fucked up thing if it does. I have no special love for Clinton.
erincpotterart
Same here
yorhuckleberry
Obama lost the pop vote in the second election didn't he?
vulgarjack
not at all
yorhuckleberry
My mistake
snewsh
You mean he lost the popular vote in cali and new york. Rest of the nation voted him in hands down.
segfaultytowers
Maps really aren't your thing are they?
heynongman4pres
You must be trolling...
snewsh
If the cali votebitself was put aside alone trump would have won the Popular vote by 4 mil. Electoral collge was made so one area didnt have
snewsh
Undue influence over the rest of the country.
Rayxzerox
People in low pop states get more representation than those in large pop ones by a long-shot
heynongman4pres
And if the Confederacy was put aside Clinton would have won and we would be a better nation for it Why does California not count as America?
snewsh
Its not that it doesnt count but its has so much population (13 mil in socal at least) that it shouldnt have more influence over the least
TheresAnUpvoteForThat
dgice
You really think whoever posted this voted for Trump?
Gram2021
I feel like this is more of a Bernie Sanders supporter.
Chimichanga007
indeed
Sonicdahedgie
What if I told you politics continue after the lection?
TheDuke0fHazzard
People keep posting Obama/Biden memes too, and their last election was 4 years ago
SiameseCitys
It those are self deprecating towards their "guy" it's not insulting the opposing candidate.
TheBoulderFromIndianaJones
Because video memes are dank
TheBoulderFromIndianaJones
Why are you people upcoming this comment, I fucked up, it's supposed to be biden
TheresAnUpvoteForThat
Um... they won that election. How many Mitt Romney means did we see right after that the 2012 election?
TheDuke0fHazzard
Dunno, only been a member since 2014
Kofthefens
Pretty much zero
BaselessRumors
You know you have a right to feel insecure when Hillary, Jill Stein, and Soros are still trying to hijack the electoral college December 19.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Weird how the same people who celebrate the EC going against the popular vote 'cos that's how it works' hate that it might screw them over.
DaveLikesImgur
TIL an audit=hijacking. but remember.. it's rigged
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Zokalwe
Insecurception
immaCanucktoo
Too meta, man.
Xathraphor
It's okay, we are all a bunch of insecure dicks. Otherwise, why would we ever comment for fake internet points?
Chimichanga007
Hmm so pointing out Hillary's flaws means Trump was "my candidate". Your world must be so simple, I should be envious.
BeeeeeJ
Downvoted because your truth hurts people, been there bro. +1
DonaldJTrump
IfPeopleWereRedPandas
K
somethingaboutTV
It doesn't mean he's "your candidate". But it certainly means you don't think he was a worse candidate than Hillary, for what it's worth.
Chimichanga007
no, it doesn't.
somethingaboutTV
Man, you jump through mental loops like a true neckbeard. Grow up.
Chimichanga007
Here's a mental hoop: Would you like to eat this turd sandwich or enjoy some giant douche tea?
Chimichanga007
"You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists"
DonaldJTrump
grammarfairy
So who was your candidate?
Aimanfire
You're on Imgur so 75% chance it was Gary Johnson
grammarfairy
But I want him to tell me, I don't want to guess.
Chimichanga007
Bernie madafakan Sanders
Rifneno
The guy who got FUCKING DESTROYED by every single measure in the primaries? Cool story, bro. LOL.
Chimichanga007
That's my answer and I'm sticking to it
letsdotheimgurthing
You mean when the primaries were rigged against him?
shawnemack
She didn't say that and you wouldn't have voted for her no matter what she said.
Tankdoggy
She would have gotten a lot more votes with Sanders as VP or Warren as VP.
sangheraj
Sanders himself stated that he wouldn't accept a position as her running mate tho
Tankdoggy
and, before you ask, here is sauce. http://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2986#efmABHAB3AB6ACN
Tankdoggy
She never seriously tried, there are leaked emails from summer of 2015 saying she already promised it to Kaine. Proof is in the pudding.
sangheraj
I know. The point is even if she did he would've turned her down
Tankdoggy
Again, she never made a legit offer, because she promised it to Kaine years earlier.
shawnemack
Probably. Or if she had just embraced sander's economic policies and supporters.
Tankdoggy
Or had not been a walking dumpster fire that shot herself in the face multiple times, be the only Democrat that could lose to Trump.
BajaChicken
She did embrace a lot of Sander's economic policies.
shawnemack
She did, but the centerpiece of her campaign wasn't jobs. It was look at what a shorty person trump is. She's right, of course. Didn't work.
Tankdoggy
And, after so many flip flops, who actually believed her anyway?
SomeCrazyNerd
She made some concessions on FEC, banking, healthcare and education.
shawnemack
Yeah, but she didn't keep that in the forefront. IMO she should've pivoted away from pointing out how shitty trump is and to her economics
Tankdoggy
And, after so many flip flops, who actually believed her anyway?
Catfactory
It's not clear that either would have agreed to that. Warren was happy doing her thing.
Tankdoggy
Hillary promised Kaine the VP Spot in 2008 to help force Debbie WassermanShultz to be the head of DNC, to cheat the system and crown clinton
Catfactory
Do you've a source for that?
Tankdoggy
Kaine was head of DNC in 2007/2008. Hillary needed a apologist as head to run the DNC and ensure only Clinton could win, and tilt the scale
Belckan
Her mistake was being corrupt and arrogant as fuck believing the american public would not care about that and rigging Sanders out of it.
shawnemack
Corrupt? Ok. Crooked Hillary, right?
Belckan
There's various reasons she lost. Not only the emails. Thats not the main reason why she's corrupt. How fast we forget occupy wallstreet.
cantsImaginationSmasher
No, she lost because she did make as many campaign stops in rural America that Trump did. That's why she lost WI and MI
vulgarjack
Funny how being corrupt and arrogant as fuck is what people liked about Trump
Belckan
It isn't. Its the argument you chose to tell yourself. I dont care though. Not my country. Get fucked lol.
shawnemack
If you think the president of the United States doesn't have an impact on wherever you live, you're mistaken.
Belckan
Only economically. And that wont change much if at all. You are the ones stuck with his policies. Get. Fucked.