Jan 31, 2017 8:59 PM
MrAlienZ
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StrykingWarlock
Gahdamned commie!
AVANCEHERCULE
Its okay to beat women when you sing about peace and love...lol.
YeahLinguisticsBitch
R/im14andthisisdeep, r/edgy, r/atheism, r/justneckbeard things, did I miss any?
TheFastpaws
HAHAHAHAHA~ Oh.. that is a good one. People don't like each other just for being overweight. Removing these wouldn't change a thing.
Icantthinkofausernamesothisiswhatimdoingforit
Almost all of the historical figures there claim some religion..
vauhtihirmu
And the Tibetan flag is present after the no countries part...
JohnnyGossamer
"Imagine no possessions" sang the man with a separate room in his mansion for his fur coats.
Genini
Pfft poor. Get a separate mansion for your fur coats or whats the point.
SpencerTheBlank
That sound petty lame
MrDeadsr
Like when Lennon hit his wife?
AndPromisTomorrow
Even if there was no religion, there would still be the same amount of violence and anger
ehhokay
Religion and capitalist greed have caused a majority of the wars.
IAmTheBadW01f
So they play soccer? Have you seen the riots that follow big soccer games?
Ireallyhopethisnamewillfitohmygoditdid
I get that I'm uncultured or something, but who's that Anna woman? And the rainbow "milk" guy?
thespottedbunny
milk is harvey milk, a gay SF board of supervisors member who was assassinated. no idea who anna is supposed to be.
BritishBatman
sure, yeah, but also, no way in fucking hell, not having religion wouldn't do any of this shit, people would still fight and kill.
this is both egotistical and naive as shit.
*this post
GadenKerensky
Bah, typical Capitalistic propaganda. Kalashnikov Russian strength! Kalashnikov no break comrade!
madetheaccountjustforyou
"Imagine human beings aren't human beings, then we won't have the problems associated with human beings!"
LocketheAuthentic
"Guys! I've got it! Lets just solve all the problems! Why didn't we think of this sooner!?"
theworstpersonontheinternet
And then Stalin comes in and starts killing everyone who doesn't do what he says. No on expects surprise Stalin.
HousePest
Lenin expected him. Lenin warned against him. Stalin got the better of him anyways, then he turned lenin into an ikon for the state lenin
warned against D:.
PietroAretino
Yeah thats a nice fairy tale. So was Cinderella.
sgtstiletto
As a man who sang about having no possessions, Lennon was probably one of the more materialistic ones in the Beatles...grain of salt
keikikahuna
Hey, man, he just said to IMAGINE it. He didn't say you have to run out and do it. He was known to complain about people who liked the song.
openlor
Ignorance is a bliss
wickedsmahtspacegirl
If it's an ideal world like this, I don't see the point in specifying no religion..religion is fine when it doesn't cause those other things
[deleted]
Actually, historically, money (think: oil, gold) is the easiest way to go to war.
PhailRaptor
The problem is that, historically, religion has frequently and repeatedly caused the other things
flamedragon822
They may be differentiating between faith and religion. It may mean religion in the same way it means countries, a group and nothing more
Yeah, alright, I can accept that
observationalist
Because as long as there is more than one religion, shit even ONE religion, there will be conflict over it
DVSBSTrD
Except religion has ALWAYS caused those things. What part of "nothing to kill or die for" did you not understand?
meikachew
Correction to your title, "let's not forget this"
I will but can't do it with the mobile version. Thank you for pointing.
Or "let us not forget this"
Macmhartain
He wrote it as a communist manifesto and told a reporter that people would love anything if it was sugar coated
I don't need sugar coating to love the communist manifesto.
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
Nah, humans are garbage, we'll find something to fight over
OrgasmicOreos448
If you didn't sing that while you read it is don't believe you
Of course I did.
trevasauruswrecks
I sang it in the key of Maynard. Didn't match the pictures.
MemeDissector
I didn't, because I don't know what song it is
Wookieoo7
Its Dreamer by John Lennon. Personally I hate the song because it says 2me we should care about nothing and anarchy, for others its paradise
My bad, Imaging is the song, it loaded halfway through my scroll so I didn't see the name @ the top. Too distracted by OPs piss poor english
ChloePrice
I do, but I usually hear the Maynard version.
apercent
I would of if it wasn't for the two line breaks at the beginning
PotassiumLover
Well I'm going to get downvoted for this but whatever *ahem* "This is a song?"
upvotehypnotoad
Great song, even if you're not a hippy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVg2EJvvlF8
SeeUNextTues
"This is a song?" KILL YOURSELF
Valarauko
If there's no more religion, why's the woman still wearing her hijab? At least the priest and mullah take off their headdresses, briefly.
Molvanian
I love when people try to blame all the worlds problems on religion, then use famous religious pacifists as the ideal.
I HATE this song. I HONESTLY HATE this song, and I'm a Beatles fan. Some of the strongest unifying factors in human civilization,
and some things that have in their very definition teachings exactly in line with what this song is about, are demonized. It misses
the point, and it misses it hard. It's popular, because it goes for easy targets, but it's wrong. I should have made this a puffin.
You're not alone, I argued with an entire year level that this song is about Anarchy & lack of empathy in highschool. There are heaps of us
Sadly, the pretty message makes it easy for people to ignore the reality of the situations. Which is really the entire problem to begin with
whyareyoumad
It was nice how he could say that while driving a 1 million dollar car and living in the most expensive place in nyc
ISupportYourViews
The song isn't about living simply, it's about doing away with false dividers, such as religion and national borders.
"imagine no possessions"
Thx m8
Sorry friend, I just saw that in another post and was looking for somewhere to use it.
Don't be sorry, it made me laugh.
GammerNoob
FUCKING HIPPIE*throws tomato at op*
Thank you
GasBandit
PersonaAuGratin
I literally said that in my head, looked down, and saw your comment.
Gambappe
multimillionaire "hippie", and you are not imagining.
SendMrBrightsideMemes
Is the tomato gmo free
*non-GMO
00110001001001111010000110110110011
And is it gluten free?
qussow
Is it also whole grain?
B0bTh3BuiIder
This will literally never happen because people will always want more. until free will is lost, there will be violence
5P4RK4
Wetiko
playstation360
I'm not so sure. Once we move to a post scarcity world, there will be very little reason to commit violence.
askinghonestquestions
Do you really need much of a reason?
Once? We are (could be) post-scarcity today. We just have artificial scarcity under neoliberalism.
Not so. We only have enough because of scarcity. If everyone who works to survive stopped, we would quickly run out of resources.
Why would people stop working? Would you stop? I'd get bored. People really dont need that many resources to not die.
And when you consider we could double the net worth of the bottom 50% of the planet by redistributing the wealth of EIGHT PEOPLE...
Wifwolf
Even rich people murder. There is always a reason, and it doesn't matter if there isn't a reason in the end, some people will always murder
Yes, but there will be a lot fewer reasons for it. The rate would plummet, but remain non zero. BTW, love your username.
Thank you (your username is an abomination ;) ), and most likely yes. But we might be violent just for the thrill. Like domesticated cats.
Yeah, abomination is exactly what I was aiming for. We have outlets for thrill based violence like boxing, MMA, videogames, etc.
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
I love the idea, but I feel like conflict is just part of the human contrition. It's easy to blame politics and religion, but we just find
Mimsey
Some humans' conditions. Not everyone's. Obviously we just need to genocide the bad ones.
This was actually really witty if you were being sarcastic.
patrickbeaty
Honestly, guys, deathbyfarts is right. Take away politics and religion and just have your miserable selves to blame.
Carefuler
People imply we
Hundreds of mutant fire hydrants living underneath the surface plotting their revenge
People imply we're falling short of what we should be, but I'm amazed at what we're managing to achieve.
digiorno88
"I'm the grayest and the blobiest"
Yep. Land, resources, control - shit people are already fighting over
g011um
You're not Canadian are you?
Nope, American, why do you ask?
I think it's a difference in culture. As a Canadian, I don't see why we couldn't live in Lennon's utopian dream society.
p75369
Agreed. Tribalism does seem to be inherant in most, Us vs Them. With no actual tribes, we invent more abstract ones. Race, sex, politics...
Our, and all other animals, natural state is in competition, not cooperation. It's all about advancing Your particular DNA!
leperoutcastunclean
An awful lot of what is wrong with the world is people trying to force the human animal into a mold it cannot accept instead of 1/2
accepting that you can't override ~60,000 years of behavioral modernity overnight, and some things you shouldn't even try to undo. 2/2
new reasons to isolate and despise each other. Nationalism and spiritualism could be wiped out tomorrow and we would start killing each
I other over eating habits.
PhiIIipJFry
Know this time child, I shall crush your skull like a clam on my tummy.
PirateRubberDuck
Well yeah but we are becoming more peaceful over time. It is a slow process.
That's really a matter of perspective
kawwmoi
Well seeing as how I got in an argument with a coworker the other day because he was eating pizza with a knife and fork I can't deny it.
Weentit
Ok death by farts
ForSomeAbstractReason
I just don't know why you use tables when you have a perfectly good tummy!!
I would fuckin' kill a bitch for tummy eating >:(
I disagree to a point: We don't need to avoid conflict but continue building ways to solve them constructively.
Or, at the very least, nonviolently.
StrykingWarlock
Gahdamned commie!
AVANCEHERCULE
Its okay to beat women when you sing about peace and love...lol.
YeahLinguisticsBitch
R/im14andthisisdeep, r/edgy, r/atheism, r/justneckbeard things, did I miss any?
TheFastpaws
HAHAHAHAHA~ Oh.. that is a good one. People don't like each other just for being overweight. Removing these wouldn't change a thing.
Icantthinkofausernamesothisiswhatimdoingforit
Almost all of the historical figures there claim some religion..
vauhtihirmu
And the Tibetan flag is present after the no countries part...
JohnnyGossamer
"Imagine no possessions" sang the man with a separate room in his mansion for his fur coats.
Genini
Pfft poor. Get a separate mansion for your fur coats or whats the point.
SpencerTheBlank
That sound petty lame
MrDeadsr
Like when Lennon hit his wife?
AndPromisTomorrow
Even if there was no religion, there would still be the same amount of violence and anger
ehhokay
Religion and capitalist greed have caused a majority of the wars.
IAmTheBadW01f
So they play soccer? Have you seen the riots that follow big soccer games?
Ireallyhopethisnamewillfitohmygoditdid
I get that I'm uncultured or something, but who's that Anna woman? And the rainbow "milk" guy?
thespottedbunny
milk is harvey milk, a gay SF board of supervisors member who was assassinated. no idea who anna is supposed to be.
BritishBatman
sure, yeah, but also, no way in fucking hell, not having religion wouldn't do any of this shit, people would still fight and kill.
BritishBatman
this is both egotistical and naive as shit.
BritishBatman
*this post
GadenKerensky
Bah, typical Capitalistic propaganda. Kalashnikov Russian strength! Kalashnikov no break comrade!
madetheaccountjustforyou
"Imagine human beings aren't human beings, then we won't have the problems associated with human beings!"
LocketheAuthentic
"Guys! I've got it! Lets just solve all the problems! Why didn't we think of this sooner!?"
theworstpersonontheinternet
And then Stalin comes in and starts killing everyone who doesn't do what he says. No on expects surprise Stalin.
HousePest
Lenin expected him. Lenin warned against him. Stalin got the better of him anyways, then he turned lenin into an ikon for the state lenin
HousePest
warned against D:.
PietroAretino
Yeah thats a nice fairy tale. So was Cinderella.
sgtstiletto
As a man who sang about having no possessions, Lennon was probably one of the more materialistic ones in the Beatles...grain of salt
keikikahuna
Hey, man, he just said to IMAGINE it. He didn't say you have to run out and do it. He was known to complain about people who liked the song.
openlor
Ignorance is a bliss
wickedsmahtspacegirl
If it's an ideal world like this, I don't see the point in specifying no religion..religion is fine when it doesn't cause those other things
[deleted]
[deleted]
wickedsmahtspacegirl
Actually, historically, money (think: oil, gold) is the easiest way to go to war.
PhailRaptor
The problem is that, historically, religion has frequently and repeatedly caused the other things
flamedragon822
They may be differentiating between faith and religion. It may mean religion in the same way it means countries, a group and nothing more
wickedsmahtspacegirl
Yeah, alright, I can accept that
observationalist
Because as long as there is more than one religion, shit even ONE religion, there will be conflict over it
DVSBSTrD
Except religion has ALWAYS caused those things. What part of "nothing to kill or die for" did you not understand?
meikachew
Correction to your title, "let's not forget this"
MrAlienZ
I will but can't do it with the mobile version. Thank you for pointing.
meikachew
Or "let us not forget this"
Macmhartain
He wrote it as a communist manifesto and told a reporter that people would love anything if it was sugar coated
HousePest
I don't need sugar coating to love the communist manifesto.
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
Nah, humans are garbage, we'll find something to fight over
OrgasmicOreos448
If you didn't sing that while you read it is don't believe you
MrAlienZ
Of course I did.
trevasauruswrecks
I sang it in the key of Maynard. Didn't match the pictures.
MemeDissector
I didn't, because I don't know what song it is
Wookieoo7
Its Dreamer by John Lennon. Personally I hate the song because it says 2me we should care about nothing and anarchy, for others its paradise
Wookieoo7
My bad, Imaging is the song, it loaded halfway through my scroll so I didn't see the name @ the top. Too distracted by OPs piss poor english
ChloePrice
I do, but I usually hear the Maynard version.
apercent
I would of if it wasn't for the two line breaks at the beginning
PotassiumLover
Well I'm going to get downvoted for this but whatever *ahem* "This is a song?"
upvotehypnotoad
Great song, even if you're not a hippy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVg2EJvvlF8
SeeUNextTues
"This is a song?" KILL YOURSELF
Valarauko
If there's no more religion, why's the woman still wearing her hijab? At least the priest and mullah take off their headdresses, briefly.
Molvanian
I love when people try to blame all the worlds problems on religion, then use famous religious pacifists as the ideal.
Molvanian
I HATE this song. I HONESTLY HATE this song, and I'm a Beatles fan. Some of the strongest unifying factors in human civilization,
Molvanian
and some things that have in their very definition teachings exactly in line with what this song is about, are demonized. It misses
Molvanian
the point, and it misses it hard. It's popular, because it goes for easy targets, but it's wrong. I should have made this a puffin.
Wookieoo7
You're not alone, I argued with an entire year level that this song is about Anarchy & lack of empathy in highschool. There are heaps of us
Molvanian
Sadly, the pretty message makes it easy for people to ignore the reality of the situations. Which is really the entire problem to begin with
whyareyoumad
It was nice how he could say that while driving a 1 million dollar car and living in the most expensive place in nyc
ISupportYourViews
The song isn't about living simply, it's about doing away with false dividers, such as religion and national borders.
whyareyoumad
"imagine no possessions"
HousePest
MrAlienZ
Thx m8
HousePest
Sorry friend, I just saw that in another post and was looking for somewhere to use it.
MrAlienZ
Don't be sorry, it made me laugh.
GammerNoob
FUCKING HIPPIE*throws tomato at op*
[deleted]
[deleted]
MrAlienZ
Thank you
GasBandit
PersonaAuGratin
I literally said that in my head, looked down, and saw your comment.
Gambappe
multimillionaire "hippie", and you are not imagining.
SendMrBrightsideMemes
Is the tomato gmo free
SeeUNextTues
*non-GMO
00110001001001111010000110110110011
And is it gluten free?
qussow
Is it also whole grain?
B0bTh3BuiIder
This will literally never happen because people will always want more. until free will is lost, there will be violence
5P4RK4
Wetiko
playstation360
I'm not so sure. Once we move to a post scarcity world, there will be very little reason to commit violence.
askinghonestquestions
Do you really need much of a reason?
5P4RK4
Once? We are (could be) post-scarcity today. We just have artificial scarcity under neoliberalism.
playstation360
Not so. We only have enough because of scarcity. If everyone who works to survive stopped, we would quickly run out of resources.
5P4RK4
Why would people stop working? Would you stop? I'd get bored. People really dont need that many resources to not die.
5P4RK4
And when you consider we could double the net worth of the bottom 50% of the planet by redistributing the wealth of EIGHT PEOPLE...
Wifwolf
Even rich people murder. There is always a reason, and it doesn't matter if there isn't a reason in the end, some people will always murder
playstation360
Yes, but there will be a lot fewer reasons for it. The rate would plummet, but remain non zero. BTW, love your username.
Wifwolf
Thank you (your username is an abomination ;) ), and most likely yes. But we might be violent just for the thrill. Like domesticated cats.
playstation360
Yeah, abomination is exactly what I was aiming for. We have outlets for thrill based violence like boxing, MMA, videogames, etc.
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
I love the idea, but I feel like conflict is just part of the human contrition. It's easy to blame politics and religion, but we just find
Mimsey
Some humans' conditions. Not everyone's. Obviously we just need to genocide the bad ones.
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
This was actually really witty if you were being sarcastic.
patrickbeaty
Honestly, guys, deathbyfarts is right. Take away politics and religion and just have your miserable selves to blame.
Carefuler
People imply we
PotassiumLover
Hundreds of mutant fire hydrants living underneath the surface plotting their revenge
Carefuler
People imply we're falling short of what we should be, but I'm amazed at what we're managing to achieve.
digiorno88
"I'm the grayest and the blobiest"
upvotehypnotoad
Yep. Land, resources, control - shit people are already fighting over
g011um
You're not Canadian are you?
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
Nope, American, why do you ask?
g011um
I think it's a difference in culture. As a Canadian, I don't see why we couldn't live in Lennon's utopian dream society.
p75369
Agreed. Tribalism does seem to be inherant in most, Us vs Them. With no actual tribes, we invent more abstract ones. Race, sex, politics...
Carefuler
Our, and all other animals, natural state is in competition, not cooperation. It's all about advancing Your particular DNA!
leperoutcastunclean
An awful lot of what is wrong with the world is people trying to force the human animal into a mold it cannot accept instead of 1/2
leperoutcastunclean
accepting that you can't override ~60,000 years of behavioral modernity overnight, and some things you shouldn't even try to undo. 2/2
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
new reasons to isolate and despise each other. Nationalism and spiritualism could be wiped out tomorrow and we would start killing each
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
I other over eating habits.
PhiIIipJFry
Know this time child, I shall crush your skull like a clam on my tummy.
PirateRubberDuck
Well yeah but we are becoming more peaceful over time. It is a slow process.
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
That's really a matter of perspective
kawwmoi
Well seeing as how I got in an argument with a coworker the other day because he was eating pizza with a knife and fork I can't deny it.
Weentit
Ok death by farts
ForSomeAbstractReason
I just don't know why you use tables when you have a perfectly good tummy!!
xxxDeathByFartsxxx
I would fuckin' kill a bitch for tummy eating >:(
vauhtihirmu
I disagree to a point: We don't need to avoid conflict but continue building ways to solve them constructively.
vauhtihirmu
Or, at the very least, nonviolently.