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Jun 23, 2020 2:43 PM

Stop using "murder" when incompetence or even negligence will suffice.

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

It’s true. the single most important thing to stop police violence &corruption is to have serious consequences for bad behaviour. It’

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm sure she'd be happy they named a law after her. You know, if she wasn't dead and nobody had faced repercussions for it.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm still surrounded by people crying "if she'd just obeyed the law". You dense mutherfuker, she was in her apartment, SLEEPING! WTF!

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Retroactively making things illegal is perhaps the only worse thing.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Legally it’s more than likely manslaughter. What happened was a failure at every level. The judge who violated Supreme Court ruling should/

5 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

/2 needs to be impeached, how the officers went about getting the warrant was bad faith and they need to be tried for that too.

5 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Ok but that's not how laws work.

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You know what we're not allowed to do? Implement Ex Post Facto laws. Everyone in that horrible situation acted in accordance with their >

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rights at the time. And the result was horrific but even if you did bring it to trial wouldn't result in a conviction The no-knock was >

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

issued and shots were fired, the whole thing's what we call a SNAFU and banning no-knocks is the best result to prevent a repetition.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Stop with that reality and truth shit.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Police had warrant to enter, occupant has right to stand ground, police has right to return fire. The issue is no knock and no body cams.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

they should be arrested but the logic of this post is beyond ignorant. You cannot arrest someone for something that was legal at the time

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The only problem is you can't arrest someone based on a law that didn't exist at the time of the crime.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I agree they need to be in prison, but legally it may be hard to get them there.

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The problem with sending cops to prison is how to keep then alive once in there. that's some of the reason for protecting bad cops

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is why we just need a capitalistic monarchy. Then you wouldn’t have to wait.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There is exactly 0 chance that cop who were shot at first go to jail for anything. This is terrible but they didnt murder her. Murder has1/2

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Legal requirements and this doesnt meet them. You dont want the law to give in to the mob, or you wont like it when it turns on you

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

then release their names and addresses to the public. let the problem solve itself.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

You are absolute scum to encourage that.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yes I am.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's difficult to retroactively apply the law in these situations, and probably not a precedent you want to set.

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That's okay. The system was designed for precisely situations like this. If they have immunity, appeal up until SCOTUS rules that the law >

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The bigger issue is US law is set around a principle that you have to try people under the laws that applied at that time. Most places are

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's unfortunate but I'm sure you could imagine the repercussions of allowing people to be tried under laws retroactively

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No one is suggesting retroactive. Ex: 1A covers free speech, someone shouts 'Fire', court rules 1A wasn't meant for that.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

was never meant to be interpreted that way, and the protection is unconstitutional.

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SCOTUS is the ones that established QI in the first place. People are always judged under the most light version of the law that was current

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I don't know the story. But I assumed the law was put in place because it would have been the only way to charge them. But no option.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

These things are always "in honor" so it doesn't happen again. Any liberal country doesn't allow laws to be retroactive

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So this new law cannot apply to them

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I don't think anyone is suggesting charging them under the new law.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Then go to SCOTUS and ask for a new ruling.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

SCOTUS doesmt do that very often. Maybe 100 years after

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

you can't apply laws retroactively.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who was the actual target of the missing warrant and what was their crime and where are they now?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Cops too busy handing out speeding tickets.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is it just me who perceives this murder as crooked cops robbing who they thought was a drug dealer?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We could just lock them up ourselves. In this case we know they are guilty. So it would be justice.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Wow. That sounds positively......republican.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Oh lookie! Another law for cops to break with zero consequences! Yay!!!

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Thing is you can't retroactively apply a new law. Just like if weed was legal federally tomorrow, people will still go to jail today.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah! More useless laws!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can't arrest/prosecute on a law that does not yet, or previously exist. Sucks balls, but that is way the system works.

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Here are some things we can do: Disbar the judge who signed this warrant. Fire these cops (doesn't need a court case, chief can just fire).>

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Charge them for whichever degree of homicide you like, appeal the failure until a high enough court can say that whatever protection they >

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have has been wrongfully used. If one court says "It's not murder bc..." SCOTUS can say "fuck that, you're wrong".

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Breonna's law would have prevented the "no-knock" warrant the cops were using. Of course, it was already a crime to kill someone.

5 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

"Not murdering people" has been a law for a long time.

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The only way to get to 3rd degree murder is if they didn't identify themselves as cops. Wrongful death suit is a better pursuit.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And there are lots of murderers roaming free ... from witnesses not speaking up to buying a verdict, the system is pretty fucked up

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yeah the law has to apply equally to everyone. If we don't want them to make up laws to prosecute us after the fact, we can't do the same.

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Unfortunately the system sucks and it is fly by night and hope it works. Unfortunately it's full of loopholes.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The two things are totally different, though. You can prosecute for murder even though you can't prosecute for kicking the door.

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Devils advocate, If it wasn't a law before they cant be tried, say a law were passed making something you did in the past illegal, it 1/2

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 5

Wouldn't be fair or just to be prosecuted on something that is now illegal that wasn't when you did that thing 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Does it work in reverse, though? Like, it was a crime when you were arrested but isn't a crime by time you go to trial?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That would be an ex post facto law, and those are prohibited under Article I of the US Constitution. So, yeah, unfair, but also illegal.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Devil's advocate here, "Not murdering people" has been a law for a long time.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

thats laws never applied to cops though. They get an exception from most laws.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You guys needed to make a NEW law against murder?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The law bans no-knock warrants. The murder part was already illegal.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry that you have to live like this.

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Recognize what they are doing by shutting down polling places. You can't vote if you can't get to a voting box

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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5 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

When he's at is best, there's nobody better.

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

The woman who got it wrong was a cop. Lmao

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

"This is a rap lyric?" kills me every time

5 years ago | Likes 92 Dislikes 0

“Hangin’ in a jury!”

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Chappell so real. Voting is wrong answer, damn. Doesn’t hold back at all. Love his stand ups on Netflix.

5 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 2

Yeah, voting is important, but you can only vote for the options on the ballot if you're not doing anything else.

5 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Republicans wouldn't be working so hard to stop black people from voting if it didn't work.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

While humorous, voting is important, get your votwr registration checked at vote.org

5 years ago | Likes 239 Dislikes 1

Honestly, I think that's the best part of this joke. It's sarcasm. "What? Voting? Of course that can't help anything! /s"

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

It's not sarcasm. There's a chasm between helping and actually solving a problem. Yes, you should vote. No, that's not enough to fix it.

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5 years ago (deleted Jun 24, 2020 6:32 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

hope you mean this in a positive way. If the other white guy in his 70s is elected, then at least it's possible that the next pres is not 1/

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/ an older white guy.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

THE ? VOTING ? MACINES ? ARE ? RIGGED.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

Also voting is rigged...

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Highly vulnerable to tampering, likely all compromised in some way, and not independently verified before use, but probably not built rigged

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

... Why the bananas?

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Cuz monkey business.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For scale?

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Potassium is important for maintaining anger? Or it's to draw more attention to the post

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Did you read the one about prisoners counting toward electoral votes but not being allowed to vote? Or the mail in mess going on now.

5 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 1

Sounds like they’ll soon count as 3/5ths of a person soon

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I requested a mail in ballot in the beginning of May and never received it. Primary is today, mail ins are due this week. Fucking bullshit

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's amazing how they were unable to prepare for something this predictable

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Aye it is bullshit, but dont let it stop you, fight through the bullshit and remember to vote in your local elections.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh aye, ive hated gerrymandering since I learned about it in middle school, disassembling the electoral college and FPTP style elections is

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Important, start from the ground up, vote for your mayor, DA, and any elected positions in your local area as well as country-wide votes

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ranked choice baby! You can show support for other parties and still count towards the behemoth party of your choice!

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Prisoners should be allowed to vote and required to participate. Reform and make them part of the community, not isolate and disenfranchise.

5 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

Prisoners should not be allowed to vote while in prison, but once released have all rights fully and automatically restored.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also, prison populations should not count towards the population of the district where the prison is located.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A-fuckin-men, cutting someone off from participating in ones community means they don't have buy-in and the easier path for them is recidivi

5 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Recidivism, like spend a bit of extra money on their first time through the system to give someone a skill (college or trades) and then

5 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

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If what I read is true, cops had reason to *contact* Breonna or *watch* , not by busting in at 4am guns blazing.

5 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 0

Let's ask the real Cosgrove what he thinks about these cops.

5 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Should publish where they sleep at night as well.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wait I'm confused. Why do we want to ignore school shooters and terrorists, but remember these cops? Different motives?

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Very these cops dont want the "fame" like terrorist and school shooters

5 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

School shooters and terrorists do it for the attention, not the case here so the perps names can be used without giving them what they want.

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Not ignore! I meant not focusing on their names and their back stories.

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The difference is school shooters and terrorists get arrested or killed.

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When you can't even reach that minimum threshold, as with police officers who commit crimes without prosecution, the situation is different.

5 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Can we stop downvoting people to oblivion for asking legitimate questions?

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 6

I kinda answered my question while I was asking, but just wanted to make sure. Wasn't trying to be snarky. Some people have a lot of anger.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

I’m concerned that the anger is clouding judgement, and this cause is important. It’s completely acceptable to ask questions and seek answer

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Yolo

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why are people down voting? Could have just responded succinctly as these fine people did!

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 12

Fine, I changed my downvote. I think people are so cynical they assume trolling. Re-read it and it’s a fair question.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Much appreciated. I wasn't trying to be snarky, I just wanted to confirm what the game plan here is and fully understand.

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Because presumably people who shoot up schools or whatever want to be known to spread a message, cops don't want to be known as bad.

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Yes. The cops don’t want attention drawn to what they did while terrorists/school shooters often want the fame

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Yes. Mass shooters often want recognition of themselves & their “cause”. Police who abuse their position want anonymity to avoid backlash.

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Also most the time a mass shooter/terrorist actually faces prison time.

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Or dies for their actions.

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The only dude to even have been fired was a guy with multiple sexual assault allegations. No arrest for them, either.

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What the fuck

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I'd still bet good money the dude had a dick fueled grudge against her.

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What do you plan on charging them with?

5 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 99

Wanton Murder, KRS § 507.020(1)(b).

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Manslaughter/second degree murder, obstruction of justice, perjury, filing a false police report, conspiracy, felony murder. I could go on.

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(1) you can't prove malice, so murder is out. A self defense argument gets them out of manslaughter charges, what are you using as evidence

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 20

Some states have "depraved heart" murder classifications, which this would fit in

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(2) for the report, perjury, and conspiracy charges? If you can prove they lied on the warrant, you might have something on one of them, but

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 11

(3) Even that would be difficult to make stick. In the eyes of the law, this is a tragic accident, not a crime committed

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 12

Again, lying on the report and warrant would be perjury. Covering would be obstruction of justice, and conspiracy re: same.

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They, and any other citizen, are responsible for every bullet that comes out of their firearm.

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(1) A great rule for citizens and one disproven as applying to officers for criminal charges by decades of case law. Though the reason

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

This. ^

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Former prosecutor here. 2nd degree does not require malice aforethought, thats 1st degree. Who shot first is a question of fact for a jury.

5 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Meaning, accounts on who shot first differ, and should be given to a jury to determine the truth after explored by experts.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Despite reputation, juries aren't stupid. Shooting an unarmed citizen eight times, falsifying reports, & claiming self defense: hard sell

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Murder?

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Obstruction of Justice, 1st degree manslaughter, filing a false police report, perjury, and conspiracy.

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(1) You can prove the officers acted with malice? Something required to get even a 3rd degree murder charge in Kentucky? Assuming the

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 84

Does that mean you can’t convict a vigilante of murder in Kentucky?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What did the vigilante do?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

She was shot eight times, bud. Gonna have a hard time saying that's not malicious intent.

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(1) Easy to claim, hard to prove. It was also how many cops? 8 rounds may sounds like a lot, but it's not like the standard is to only shoot

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 38

Shooting an unarmed woman in her own home with no warranty against her while not announcing you are police...

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(1) The woman might have been unarmed, but the woman's boyfriend who was shooting at the cops (maybe justifiably) certainly was not. As far

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 30

Sounds malicious to me. Could even charge for him/them with voluntary manslaughter if can't prove a murder charge.

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(2) officer's defense attorney isn't a complete idiot, the absolute best you could do is a manslaughter charge, and even that is almost

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(3) unchargeable, to say nothing of convictable, because her BF shot first. "The officer was under fire and shot in self defense" is almost

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 26

Wanton Murder would absolutely apply to someone blindly firing a weapon into a dark home he knows people are in.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

KRS § 507.020(1)(b), commonly called Wanton Murder doesn't require malice. It only requires:

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By firing blindly into a dark home he knew to be occupied and striking and killing Breonna Taylor (facts that are not in dispute), it meets

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3) and thereby causes the death of another person.

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1) circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life

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2) he wantonly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to another person

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Her "death" happened during normal "operational procedures." We classify as a "workplace incident;" she was not "murdered" @op

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You at correct she was not murdered, but negligent homicide is still a very punishable crime and if they weren’t cops they’re in jail for 25

5 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 3

I was being satirical nonetheless. Her death was a needless tragedy and was wantonly negligent

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I guess ppl didn't pick up on my excessive use of quotations

5 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

The quotation marks around “death” threw me. The others I got as sarcasm/satire, but I think calling it her death is fine

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That one was to overtly emphasize that something wasn't to be taken seriously with my comment

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I got you

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That is some serious bullshit right there. The police fired blindly into the wrong apartment at innocent people. That's murder, period.

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(1) The Police had a warrant. While executing the warrant they entered the apartment and were fired upon. They returned fire. This was a

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

(2) textbook case of why no-knock warrants should only be used in extreme circumstances, but this wasn't murder nor is your summary accurate

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

No knock warrants should never be used no matter how extreme the circumstances. They should illegal period.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

(1) You are aware of a group of KKK members with plans to shoot up a BLM protest. Your plan is to make the officers knock politely on the

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My sister, who is far more left leaning and thorough than I am, believes that the officers should not be arrested. Which I am stumped about.

5 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

What’s her reasoning

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As she understands it - Officers had a lead where a witness/druggie listed Taylor's address as a pickup. Officers were in the right to (1/3)

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

That's exactly how it works, she's right. It's pretty easy to understand. If it was a white guy we wouldn't even be talking about it.

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approach and enter the house under the no-knock warrant. Officers were fired upon - and hit - therefore in the right to return fire. (2/3)

5 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

See, that's where I disagree strongly with her. You can't have a legal situation where BOTH parties are in the right to use deadly force.

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

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5 years ago (deleted Jun 26, 2020 6:45 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

She doesn't fault the officers, but rather the purpose and execution of the warrant. She's glad no-knocks are now prohibited. (3/3)

5 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

Huh. I think her reasoning is faulty but I agree they shouldn't be arrested now. Ex post facto laws and double jeopardy are still bad.

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Neighbors dispute their claim that they clearly announced themselves as police though. It's not enough to whisper 'police' while the 1/

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

2/ occupants are sleeping, then bust in. Plus, supposedly she was hit multiple times by a cop shooting from outside the window. That sounds

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Serious question: doesn't that mean her murder was somehow legal if a law was passed to prevent similar things?

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

If cops followed procedure and their conduct was never exactly ruled illegal/unconstitutional: it's cool. Basically, think "Air Bud" rules.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Apparently if a cop "accidentally" kills someone, then it's fine

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Cops have qualified immunity.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Which is absolutely bullshit.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not really but you hold on to that real tight.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Love that mute button go maga idiot! Go!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

7 downvoters think arresting murderers is a bad idea. Good job guys

5 years ago | Likes 546 Dislikes 90

Well... 56 for you.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

67 and rising

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Holy shit 72!!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Some people GLORIFY cops like they're not regular people in a profession that's utterly broken and easy to get into and abuse.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

It is now at 80

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Sorry 114

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Some people just see anything from Twitter and Instantly downvote without reading. I can't really blame them considering what Drumpf spews

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You say downvoters. I say racists.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Probably cops.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

116 now. Idiots

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

I think arresting murderers is a good idea. I also downvote any post where the OP can’t be bothered to write a title.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No some of us just know what the term Ex Post Facto means.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So far, 19 people don’t agree with you saying this either.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 9

And, we're upto 28 at this time!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

That sounded like I'm happy...I'm not, to be clear. 28 idiots.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Maaaan stop doing that. Not everyone downvoting have to be made the enemy. Some just get tired of american politics. (heads up i voted up)

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

There are still people that think Hitler was a great guy. Morons gonna moron.

5 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 19

What do you mean? Hitler KILLED Hitler. That's quite the feat if you ask me.

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I’ve pointed it out before. >15,000 views, if only 50-something accidentally hit a button before moving on, that’s about right.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

Probably not the case, im guessing.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Or 7 downvoters that accidentally pushed the downvote button. Or 7 that think imgur should be used exclusively for funny pictures. Or 7 that

5 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

argue that you can't punish people for laws that didn't exist yet. Getting upset over such a tiny margin is completely unreasonable.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I get what you are saying, but the legal system is a tricky, sticky, imperfect thing. It's what allowed those cops to do what they did in 1/

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

in the first place. Should the be charged? absolutely. Legally? I'm not a lawyer, but depending on the laws, it does set a dangerous 2/

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precedent to charge someone based on a law that didn't exist when they committed the crime, even if the deserve it. Someone committing a 3/

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or they just don't like politics. It's never a good idea to go "You don't like this? Fuck you, you're on the opposite side, you're a bad guy

5 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

I'm just stating my opinion is all. If they truly don't like politics they won't bother scrolling to my comment anyway

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Yeah but it just annoys me every time I see people concerned that the front page post with thousands of upvotes and a hundred thousand 1/

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

2/ views, has god forbid, 10 downvotes.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I had no idea this was going to blow up, at the time the upvote/ downvote ratio was 50:50

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Wrongly guessing what is in the mind of others is what leads to hate and discord. Be kind to each other. That is where lasting change starts

5 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 10

I for one am all for their arrests, and upvoted the post, but there are reasons not tied to personal beliefs to downvote

5 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 2

No. But if you don't have the laws in place to punish in certain crime you shouldn't be allowed to. In Germany we got a specific

5 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 10

I mean murder is fucking illegal here, but I’m sure the DA and the Policemen’s union struck a dirty deal.

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

i mean, it's illegal to murder people.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

Paragraph in our constitution that forbids sentencing someone if the corresponding law wasn't in place before the crime was committed.

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It was unlawful search and seizure, because their suspect was already in custody. So they should be arrested, because they did break the law

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

And that was a law before the crime was committed

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

According to Wikipedia the suspect was arrested 2 hours after the shooting. https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/05/12/breonna-tay

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I know it sucks in this case. But you don't want your goverment to be able to make up new laws and punish you for the past.

5 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 8

Still... The murders...

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 9

Yes. And still humans with certain rights that can't be taken away.

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

I am not an expert in American law, but I am reasonably confident that murder has been a crime for some time

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

We have that in America too. This new law specifically outlaws no knock warrants. Blindly and recklessly firing a weapon was already a crime

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

This wasn't murder so they can be arrested for murder. See how that works? U cant make crimes appear because you r mad. Not a system u want

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not even a trial? Not even a satisfactory police report? No video evidence? How do you know it wasn't murder?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They likely didnt even know she was there, so how did they plan beforehand to kill her? What evidence would you present to convince a jury>

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That these officers wante/planed to kill her? That they sprayed bullets all over as a cover and breonna was the real target?

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It was a botched operation. There was obstruction of justice via the "police report". They were obviously shooting in her direction.

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It was her house!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So? Also they returned fire, didnt go in guns blazing. The fact that they shot almost everything in the house indicates that they had no >

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's a shocking number of 8chan rejects in usersub

5 years ago | Likes 203 Dislikes 34

What is this 8 Chan?

5 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

Is the depraved brother of 4chan.... Let that sink

5 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

What's the sink doing outside?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But 4chan is already a depraved version...

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That's my point

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Its twice as bad as 4chan.

5 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 1

A website that censors nothing in the name of "freedom" but is basically just an outlet for depraved people to say and post horrible things.

5 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 4

There's multiple chan websites???

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

I know of 2, 4, and 8. The are others

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yup.

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

So, so, so many. Dozens upon dozens. Though last I checked was probably a decade ago.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Arresting murderers is great! Creating a law and then going back and prosecuting based on it post-facto is 100% illegal.

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They broke into her home without a warrant and murdered her in cold blood. If that isn't already illegal then what the fuck

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

they had a warrent. not that it makes it any better. if anything it makes it much worse.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

warrant

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Murder was already illegal.

5 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

Then why is there a new law based off her name?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

See your username. The new law regulates no-knock warrants, not murder.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

What are no-knock warrants?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

You speak the truth and they hate you for it. Sadly, what the officers did wasn't illegal when they did it, hence the need for the law.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

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No I think he is just responding to the post that alleges we should be arresting the officers. I dont think anybody is arguing that Breonna>

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

deserved to die, or defending her death in any way. But hes right in saying that we can't prosecute officers for committing a crime that >

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Murder was illegal.

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Yea but because they were entering the home legally and were fired upon, their returning fire was considered self defense.

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If they did nothing wrong, why are they getting fired?

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