One thing that frustrated me was the alien's approach to destroying humanity. They just targeted landmarks for the most part.. If they instead formed a cohesive strategy to cripple infrastructure of air, sea and land. Destroying fuel lines, train tracks, runways and munitions factories. Things maybe would have turned out differently.
It looks like it was a still originally taken from a cinematic 16:9 aspect ratio, but then squished horizontally to fit a 4:3 ratio. It's not all that surprising of a series of events, as the film came out in 1996 - would've had a good theatrical run at the wider aspect ratio, then repackaged for home video back when most home TVs were CRTs at the 4:3 ratio. Of course, the more common solutions were either to add black bars at the top and bottom of the screen (so-called "letterboxing" in a >
> "widescreen" format) or to outright truncate the left and right sides of the movie (for the "fullscreen" format). Nowadays where CRT TVs are relics of the past and most screens are 16:9 or so these concerns seem antiquated, but at the time period of the original release they were very real.
Independence Day was filmed on film using Panavision Panaflex Platinum Camera. It was a specialized hybrid camera that recorded to film but used digital effects in camera. This camera records in a 16:10 or 16:9 aspect ratio. Rereleases of Independence Day are HD 16:9 because of this. Original release was a cropped (not deaspected) 4:3 image. The correct proportions are kept, you just see less of the frame.
The only thing that could make it more realistic is him also buying said stripper a car at 17% interest at the closest dealer to the base, with down payment money he got with a payday loan.
Mostly, but not entirely. I worked with a guy who had been a major in the Army had a ridiculous car loan he was still paying off from a Camaro he bought at a near base dealer.
Immediately across from the front gate for MCAS Cherry Point in Havelock, NC is one of those super shady, high-interest specialy-only car dealers. The kind that only carries mustangs and camaros. There is a payday loan place very close to there as well.
I’ve seen 24% actually advertised or on somebody’s paperwork before. I’ve heard of 28% a few times. I’m betting 32% has happened. (17.99, 23.99, 27.99, and 32ish are common credit card rates, which buy here pay here places often mimic)
(17 is the highest I’ve heard of at a branded new car dealership, not a buy here pay here lot, the latter typically being the places with the most insane rates)
The most unbelievable thing in that movie is they made people believe human could infect alien computers with human computer virus. That would mean that aliens uses binary systems.
Binary? Very likely. Same instruction set? Essentially impossible. Heck, even *human* computers of the time weren't all on the same page; chips of IBM-compatible computers used x86 while Apple products (like the ones used in the movie) used the PowerPC architecture, and they're entirely incompatible with each other.
I think basing automatic calculation machines on the concept of whether a measurable thing is on or off is universal. It's less realistic that they were able to figure out what binary instructions to write to destroy the fleet than that the aliens used binary computers.
They didn't really destroy thr fleet with those just turned off their connection to the mothership. I think the nuke was a bit more successful than planned, story-wise.
There was a deleted scene that didn't make it into the theater release where they made it explicit that most computer technology was actually seeded into Apple/IBM/etc directly from what was learned from the UFO, to explain why the computer would be able to connect with their systems.
I always just figured that earth comp sci was based on tech we got out of that ship. Therefore our operating systems were based on theirs and it was easy to modify a virus to work on their computers.
All general computers can be classified as Turing Complete and from that can be reverse engineered. Complicated but not much different in principle to breaking the Nazi Enigma code for example. But of course we still haven’t figured out dolphin language and they are pretty close to us ! (Mammals).
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
One thing that frustrated me was the alien's approach to destroying humanity. They just targeted landmarks for the most part.. If they instead formed a cohesive strategy to cripple infrastructure of air, sea and land. Destroying fuel lines, train tracks, runways and munitions factories. Things maybe would have turned out differently.
fukuiwontdowhatutellme
Did he also buy a 10-year-old Ford Mustang at 34% interest? I haven't seen the movie....
AtsaMattaForMe
exotic dancer
HannibalLectersCatMittens
As a former Marine, I... I did something similar.
harribobs
yeah i don't think I'd put in that kind of effort to save the world
ErniesWidow
I preferred Cowboys and Aliens
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Both are pretty good, in action scenes I think C&B wins a bit more. Though Independence Day wins out in campiness.
3Davideo
I seem to recall that the kid wasn't even his character's kid?
VInTheSkyWithElephants
It was his fiancé’s kid
Legomaniac91
Yes, but they had been together long enough that he considered himself the kid's dad anyway.
montresoristyping
I thought he was air force in that movie though…
Nanoxt
Why would anyone use this kind of aspect ratio?
betamaxforever
Administrative assistants in every office have the ability to make life so much easier on everyone but choose to ruin everyone's day.
betamaxforever
"join us after work at the brew pub!" ultratallbeerandhotdog.jpg
hotrodny
You know, some people don't have Photoshop and good eyesight.
dublet
That's actually how Will Smith looks naturally. They have to fix it in post for all his film and TV work. /s
3Davideo
It looks like it was a still originally taken from a cinematic 16:9 aspect ratio, but then squished horizontally to fit a 4:3 ratio. It's not all that surprising of a series of events, as the film came out in 1996 - would've had a good theatrical run at the wider aspect ratio, then repackaged for home video back when most home TVs were CRTs at the 4:3 ratio. Of course, the more common solutions were either to add black bars at the top and bottom of the screen (so-called "letterboxing" in a >
3Davideo
> "widescreen" format) or to outright truncate the left and right sides of the movie (for the "fullscreen" format). Nowadays where CRT TVs are relics of the past and most screens are 16:9 or so these concerns seem antiquated, but at the time period of the original release they were very real.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Even corrected with a horizontal scaling factor of 1.3333 this image is still squashed:
echoawoo
Independence Day was filmed on film using Panavision Panaflex Platinum Camera. It was a specialized hybrid camera that recorded to film but used digital effects in camera. This camera records in a 16:10 or 16:9 aspect ratio. Rereleases of Independence Day are HD 16:9 because of this. Original release was a cropped (not deaspected) 4:3 image. The correct proportions are kept, you just see less of the frame.
3Davideo
See other half of my comment.
echoawoo
See reading comprehension. Dickhole.
stillnotawake
Welcome to Earff.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Keep mah strippers name out ya fuckin mouff!
Sullivanish
He did NOT say "Earff." I'll die on this hill.
lddiaz
TomBrokaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfPWpEKhgfk
Perkunas687
He do say Earth. Tap tap, case ended.
tomatoboy
The only thing that could make it more realistic is him also buying said stripper a car at 17% interest at the closest dealer to the base, with down payment money he got with a payday loan.
Poopoopeepeevagina
Jesus Christ settle down Halloween is over
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
That is so true.
Putitinyomama
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Goddamn
stonebreaker6
You’re getting 17%? Man, way to dunk on us poors, Rockefeller.
meauho
It's because they have the payday loan down payment. Most just get the car loan at 29% with no down payment
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
isn't this mostly a rookie thing?
tomatoboy
Mostly, but not entirely. I worked with a guy who had been a major in the Army had a ridiculous car loan he was still paying off from a Camaro he bought at a near base dealer.
scatmanCrothers
Murica!
Tomadzo
relsky
Immediately across from the front gate for MCAS Cherry Point in Havelock, NC is one of those super shady, high-interest specialy-only car dealers. The kind that only carries mustangs and camaros. There is a payday loan place very close to there as well.
Mitchera
I know in the navy you're basically issued a charger at 20% whats the air force like a miata or something?
Kingstonboy
Same car, when Navy defaults on them, Base Plugs buy them.
somnif
Here in Tucson its mostly Chargers, Challenger, stupidly huge Trucks, or motorcycles that I see with base parking stickers.
QueLinda1205
Also in Tucson, can confirm.
Sullivanish
This guy Jacksonvilles.
InsertUnimaginativeUsernameHere
https://imgur.com/Bo354Ur.gifv
goboltz
Or, the Used car lots on Mayport Road, Go NAVY !
tomatoboy
Oh that’s universal in base towns. 17% is actually being generous, I’ve heard of higher.
Unclescam
I distinctly remember several "training" sessions covering exactly that and people still did it.
Iamnotacreativeman
I've seen 24% APR
tomatoboy
I’ve seen 24% actually advertised or on somebody’s paperwork before. I’ve heard of 28% a few times. I’m betting 32% has happened. (17.99, 23.99, 27.99, and 32ish are common credit card rates, which buy here pay here places often mimic)
Hoaxme70
Old military beat here, seen guys brag about getting a 28 when the dealer had it at 32
Sullivanish
Do we just not have usury laws any more?
tomatoboy
(17 is the highest I’ve heard of at a branded new car dealership, not a buy here pay here lot, the latter typically being the places with the most insane rates)
goboltz
Got get that Mustang bro !
goboltz
Jody needs a Sweet ride to take her out in right ?!
Asadsadsadclown
Dodge charger. Every time.
goboltz
They hadn't re-made that yet when I was in the Navy. (90's)
FentuckyCriedKhicken
The most unbelievable thing in that movie is they made people believe human could infect alien computers with human computer virus. That would mean that aliens uses binary systems.
oldguyexlurker
I don't think they ALL come from binary systems. (oh.... ) /s
Anarchduke
The fact it uses binary isn't surprising though. On/Off is pretty obvious as a starting point for computing.
PanNonOpticon
Aliens using binary system isn't that far fetched. Now making a virus for it, without documentation about memory space, apis, network addresses etc...
camjay14
Maybe they do though. You ever asked an alien what kinda software they run? I haven't had the chance yet..one day maybe
3Davideo
Binary? Very likely. Same instruction set? Essentially impossible. Heck, even *human* computers of the time weren't all on the same page; chips of IBM-compatible computers used x86 while Apple products (like the ones used in the movie) used the PowerPC architecture, and they're entirely incompatible with each other.
MeowWoof
I think basing automatic calculation machines on the concept of whether a measurable thing is on or off is universal. It's less realistic that they were able to figure out what binary instructions to write to destroy the fleet than that the aliens used binary computers.
KingXizor
They didn't really destroy thr fleet with those just turned off their connection to the mothership. I think the nuke was a bit more successful than planned, story-wise.
Tairu8
I always thought the reason it worked is that we based a lot of our technology on what was reverse engineered from the crashed ship they already had
GWJYonder
There was a deleted scene that didn't make it into the theater release where they made it explicit that most computer technology was actually seeded into Apple/IBM/etc directly from what was learned from the UFO, to explain why the computer would be able to connect with their systems.
KilliK69
they actually explain it in a deleted scene. they used the crashed UFO's software to create the virus.
Sumdumguy42
They had the Roswell UFO. They knew what they used. Maybe the timeframe was a little short, but it’s a movie, not a documentary.
wodensday
This dumb guy doesn’t think the ID4 event actually happened. Get a loada this. Wake up, sheeple.
CraftyGiant
Nope, they couldn't even power on that OS till the mothership arrived.
DoYouWannaKnowMySecretIdentity
I always just figured that earth comp sci was based on tech we got out of that ship. Therefore our operating systems were based on theirs and it was easy to modify a virus to work on their computers.
Lianthrelle
Specifically the Mac operating system was of alien origin if I recall correctly
TheVampireDante
People forget the aliens hacked into Earth's satellites to broadcast, so there must've been a translation factor available to reverse jack.
dbbbbs
All general computers can be classified as Turing Complete and from that can be reverse engineered. Complicated but not much different in principle to breaking the Nazi Enigma code for example. But of course we still haven’t figured out dolphin language and they are pretty close to us ! (Mammals).
MileysVirus
Kinda like that whale that couldn't find a mate because he had a mutation that made him communicate in the wrong frequency.
dbbbbs
That’s interesting. Do you have a source?
MileysVirus
https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/inside-the-nail-biting-quest-to-find-the-loneliest-whale/
ThatQuietlySmirking
There was a deleted scene that explained how our computers came from all the work done with the original captured ship.
IconicM
Cool, now go use a DOS computer to write a virus that brings down an entire modern network.
ThatQuietlySmirking
Gimme a gallon of coffee and 8-ball of cocaine.
eugene51
Alan Turing is spinning in his grave.
T3NM1DG3TS
Oh man, I didn’t even think about that. What a fucked up thing to do
wodensday
and making a loud clacking noise
Selerox
It's one of those infuriating "Scenes that should absolutely have been in the fucking movie".
VodkaReindeer
Today? Sure. In 1995 the moviegoers didn't know about computer viruses anyways.
Kbantar
It was obvious to me back then, and I'm a moron.
Shpielers
Wait...that movie came out almost 30 years ago?¿¡¿!?!