"Kinzinger said that past GOP speakers had remarkable legislative skills, but still struggled to round up votes on several key issues even with larger caucus sizes."

Nov 20, 2022 3:37 AM

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He said that Kevin McCarthy has been the biggest disappointment of his life.
He said MTG only supports him because he promised something to her.
"Why is Matt Gaetz against Marjorie Taylor Greene? Because probably Kevin McCarthy has yet to promise him anything, and secondarily, he wants to be more famous than Marjorie Taylor Greene."
"Kinzinger then blasted the ultraconservative Freedom Caucus as the `Freedom Club,' and said for many of their members, their ideology has `never been principle-based,' but rooted in gaining fame."
"It's a totally nonfunctional majority because — I've lived this" He explained that with so many congress critters with different ideologies that in order to convince the last one or two they effectively have the power of a senator,"
"[John] Boehner was one of the best at cutting deals. He struggled. Paul Ryan knew policy. He was a moderate, good guy. He struggled," the congressman said. "Kevin McCarthy is going to have trouble.
https://www.businessinsider.com/kinzinger-house-republicans-nonfunctional-majority-mccarthy-freedom-caucus-democrats-2022-11

Sorry to see you go Adam.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Totally nonfunctional" is their goal, though...

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's almost as if there's a negative side to making a deal with the devil

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They are going to literally spend two years investigating, stalling and obstructing.

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Love or hate her, Pelosi was a powerhouse because she could raise money & whip votes. McCarthy has never managed either well

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I want them to eat each other alive...and I don't mean figuratively.

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3 years ago | Likes 130 Dislikes 0

Makes sense. Seems like the main GOP platform has been "Let's be batshit crazy" since 2016.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Meanwhile, middle class families are selling their blood to eat.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I freaking love this guy. Seriously. The only sane Republican.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

There are no sane republicans. Every last one needs to go.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

To appease MTG, McCarthy promised to start an investigation into Nancy Pelosi. What for doesn’t matter, they’ll just make something up

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ideologies? More like different kinds of lies and versions of idiocracy. It really has become just intellect vs idiocracy at this point.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years of nonsense impeachments and investigations

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They don't control the Senate, so will anything get anywhere?

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Nope what I mentioned are practically the only things they can do. Both of those are great for staging outrage soundbites

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This guy needs to get a profiles in courage award. How is he going to fit his steel balls thru the door when he leaves. Legend.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Professional celebrities have ruined so much, and I blame OJ Simpson for all of it.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Paul Ryan" and "Good Guy" are incompatible terms. Paul Ryan is a fucking monster with a plastic smile and a gym-bro veneer.

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Cudnt agree more. Every republican mentioned in that article helped degrade democracy in america to get em to this possibly terminal phase.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

The comparison between what Pelosi and McCarthy are able to achieve with a slim house majority is going to be staggering!

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I'd enjoy the demise and self implosion way more if this wasn't an actual group of lawmakers and leaders of the country.

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I still hope THE GOP is ruined, but uuuggghhhh it's our freaking government. It's so horrible

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Democrats:

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Can McCarthy be the dog who got hit be a car instead?

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I don't know that he would be my top pick for a car target, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Republicans are fear mongering obstructionists and they will continue to be for years to come.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For the end of time, or the next election, whichever comes first.

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I remember hating Boehner, but that pales in comparison to republicans in recent years

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

The Weeper!

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Ahhh fuck that's right lol

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Kev's only hope is that his opposite number isn't Nancy Pelosi (though she'll still be there to advise whoever it is).

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I believe Nancy and her number two have stepped down from Democratic leadership. They'll still bet here, but they're making room for others

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

to gain experience when the Dems retake the House.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The role of Speaker of the House is not structurally tied to the 'majority party'. That's just been convention due to members voting for >

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

>their party's nominee. Would be interesting if there was a large enough number of GOP members who would vote for a 3rd candidate.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Speaker determines (to a point) what gets voted on. There's no way Republicans or Democrats would outsource that kind of leverage.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yay nothing gets done for 2 years. Then they'll say it's Democrats fault, win the election and, then hold power.

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That may be how they gained a few seats, but their red wave never made it to the shore.

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and will be less likely to happen again if they cant point to any substantial shit, and continue to have nothing but culture war trumpism

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What a delightful euphemism. ?

3 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 0

I used it once when the sister of a good friend gave me her phone #

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I hadn't heard it.

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Isn’t that part of the plan? Just to fuck things up and later blame all their fuck-ups of democrats a couple years later?

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Dems better be prepared this time. I have doubts

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I doubt republicans wait to blame democrats after voting down bills that would have helped.

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Yes they do. They've already done that. They did it with the Veteran Assistance bill. They did it with the gas price reduction bill. They

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know that they can lie to their base and no matter how obvious or easily disproven, they'll eat it up.

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They waited to blame democrats?

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Not like it matters. Republicans don't try to pass anything anyway. They're literally just obstructionists.

3 years ago | Likes 549 Dislikes 1

On Twitter Republicans are already freaking out that they won't pass anything and are blaming rinos. They may actually need to do something.

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They're not *just* obstructionists. They pass plenty of horribly racist/sexist/anti-trans legislation. #progressive /s

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oh they pass shit buddy https://freedomforallamericans.org/legislative-tracker/

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They are more into the business of gutting things like welfare and corporate regulation. And granting bailouts for fuck-up friends.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They are promising a few (fucking crazy) things now though. We'll see how it goes.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

They block progress and hate other human beings. What a miserable fucking life that must be.

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With the customer judges and state legislature, they will make significant headway towards fascism. Talk with friends and neighbors now!!!

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Only thing they actually pass are tax breaks for themselves.

3 years ago | Likes 101 Dislikes 0

Dont forget pay raises

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Not true. You're forgetting about the laws intended to prevent easy access to voting.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Now Republicans can send bills to the senate to die.

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Anything they pass that is not of direct benefit to them will be explicitly to harm a marginalized group

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Obstruction is the root of conservatism.

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If you're not here for the progression of humanity then u are a conservative and your ideology is killing humanity.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

*killed

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Fuck off. You knew what I meant

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I think He’s right, and I love the idea of a gridlocked Republican Congress.

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That's fucking stupid.

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I think he's right, and hope beyond all hope that there are at least a few sane Republicans that will vote with Democrats to pass actual law

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Just imagine it, even being a republican, but looking out for your constituents!?

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"Paul Ryan was a moderate, good guy" well... I dont think kinzinger is right about THAT at least.

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That's what they want, though.

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They’ll point to democrats and say “they didn’t let us do anything!” Which will likely be true, in the same way parents don’t let kids 1/

3 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Play with matches

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

You love that idea? Why.

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It Shows a lack of actual governance. If all they wanna do is in peach people and invite, no one’s gonna vote for them in two years.

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It’s like passing a basketball to a kid in a wheelchair and telling him to dunk.

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don't know their answer, but mine is because it encourages people to vote Democrat when 24 rolls around.

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Worked great after they stopped anything from happening in the Obama admin. That's why we voted Dem in 2016. OH FUCKING WAIT

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But wouldn't Republicans just say "Biden didn't pass anything" end blame it on the Dem president?

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*Republican House* Dems hold Senate with 50 seats plus VP tiebreaker. Potentially 51 seats for actual majority, pending Georgia's runoff.

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I think they’re talking about the house, not Senate

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They said Congress, which is made up of both the Senate and House of Reps. Which is probably why they pointed that out

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Probably meant house but congress is both house and senate

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Ever heard a senator called a “congressman”? It weird that unqualified, “congress” just means the house, like its really both

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If you have a split Congress, it's deadlocked for most purposes. The modern Senate is almost always mostly deadlocked for that matter.

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I don't. It'll be two years of political theater, w/ occasional breaks where they try to use the debt ceiling to blackmail Dems into making

3 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 0

I say let the Republicans be the ones to shut the government down. Never looks good when they force it on the Dems

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They'll try very hard to make it look like it's the Dems refusing to compromise that causes it. They may have trouble holding the line to do

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

it... but OTOH, CNN has taken a serious turn to the right in the last year so they'll have an easier time controlling the media narrative...

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

cuts to SS and Medicare that they could have under Trump but didn't b/c they don't want to be blamed & want to pin them on a Dem president.

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I'm optimistic that the Dems can get the 10 extra votes out of the 120 Republicans may have. There is not enough holding them together now

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Doesn't matter if Kevin McCarthy won't let it move in the House.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Trump was not what held the GQP into a unified block of bullshit. It's the behind-the-scene conservative think tanks that have been-

3 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

-methodically undermining our country for 50+ years. The Slow-Coup is still damn near achieved. It will take just as long of keeping-

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