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DoctorEleven
Onlyhereforthelaughs
walnutbreath
The secession thing is distracting you from all the other awful things in their platform.
dealinwifscum
Texas fascists showed it all. Don’t focus on the shiny object (texit) look at the real goal. Repeal of the voting rights Act.
fartsandwitches
Link to tweet to share https://twitter.com/Unimportitis/status/1539047615538528259?s=20&t=StISs0mCXNsUfGsXcI0p5Q
siflandollysiflandollyshowROCK
Let em go
talomox14
I feel like the border towns would immediately be overran by the Mexican cartels if Texas did that, as they'd have no means of defense.
Cheomesh
National Guard and Yehawdi militias
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Why would they invade something they practically control already lol. The cartels won against their own gov, let alone the gravy seals.
flarflarf
dont tell them all this, just let them go.
flarflarf
I 100% earnestly and unironically support the drive for Texan secession. Please let me know how I can help.
Rips4w
As long as the government facilitates relocation for people that want to remain US citizens, sure.
shyriath
Relocate the sane people out, maybe encourage our wingnuts to emigrate and take their place...
HariboHeadhunter
Cool thing is I bet at first you'll have no trouble convincing them to move , GQP isn't bright. They'll settle firmy B4 the mistake sets in
AHundredBillionBottles
Texas seems to have a non-Hispanic white, minority-rule, vote suppressing apartheid government. And it shows.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
It only seems that way because it is actually that way.
AHundredBillionBottles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hImdCUOBm04
sarkonas
So USA will get guaranteed Dem victory *and* gets rid of Texas and the Wall money sink? Fuck, I want Texas to secede now
AxelBeingCivil
Honestly, at this point, dissolving the US and starting from first principles would be great if not for China and Russia.
eetsumkaus
err...DID we learn from Reconstruction tho?
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Well, at least some of us did. We have numerous authors from a variety of fields who agree that letting literal open traitors become 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
The states leaders AFTER they rebelled certainly wasn't good. Which we did because of panic after lincolns assassination. 2/2
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
endfreq
I'm sending this to my Republican family in Texas!
davidlynchmob
Please let me know how that goes for you. I’m genuinely interested in their reaction. ?
Ubernaut1
TX succeeded once before. It did not go well, people died from starvation among other reasons. If they taught that in school, 1/2
Ubernaut1
This post most likely wouldn't exist. Smh
AFelineMassofEyes
Thanks for reminding me, seceded TX would no longer have any say in textbook contents for the rest of the nation
historycat
Ok, well, it is going to happen. The GQP has show they do not have the guts to eject the most crazy and destructive. TX primary winners /1
historycat
Will win by supporting these crazy ideas. And in TX because of undemocratic election laws, the GQP is guaranteed /2
historycat
To win general elections. They bent the knee to Trump, now they will bow to these crazies in the party. Willingly or not, this will happen.
historycat
The only way to stop it is democrats winning in Tx and all of congress.
bububub2
This is because it is a misdirect to make you pay attention to something else while they strip voting rights.
GreatOdinsTaint
This is purely performative but they keep doing it because it plays well with the base.
Fishkeeper
Ah, that would make sense.
asmasm
I don't think the sports league thing is necessarily a given. NBA MLB and NHL all have teams in Canada. NFL has Jacksonville.
eetsumkaus
it will be true temporarily at least. National leagues don't want to deal with the headache of a new country's financial systems and laws
Frozenspokes
Jacksonville is a nice touch on this comment.
Callynd
Canada's not an antagonistic nation, Texas would be in this scenario. It's different.
annonymouse211
Anyone recall how many billions in federal aid money Texas gets? I can't remember but think it's like 3 or 4. I bet they'd miss that too!
RenaissanceFaireMan
https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/resources/funding.php
annonymouse211
FORTY BILLION
DukeDarkwood
Eh, it's not like they NEED it, right? They're a strong, independent state who don't need nobody! Or something.
streetcatz
I think that i actually want that to happen
TheFastpaws
It is a distraction from the fact they are trying to undo the voting rights again.
Fishkeeper
Would make more sense than most other things.
ButtersTheCat
Would I get to be considered a political refugee, or am I fucked here, if they do this?
hovelhopper
Everyone in Texas is an American citizen. A stipend wouldn't be enough to finance a move, but they won't lock you out.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
It would turn into a regular refugee crisis literally immediately... because Texas can't support itself despite idiots claiming they can.
KinetoPlay
Wouldn't be surprised if Texas made a "nobody can leave the country for five years" law to try and keep some people around.
amb1021
Not a refugee, you'd remain a citizen and just move here. Some right-wing nut from Idaho or wherever would be thrilled to buy your house.
Maboroshi1994
practically speaking you'd probably keep your US citizenship, especially if you leave before it actually happened
StarscreamAndHutch
Gov abbott, LtG patrick and AG paxton are all up at midterm. Vote these worthless fucks out with me 11/8/22, Texans. #morebluein22
romagnolimike27
Dunno about the other two, but Abbott is guaranteed re-election. Beto is a stupid candidate, and unelectable.
WrathOfJigglypuff
Jesus Christ, what must Beto be like if Gillead-aspiring Abbot is considered a sure bet?
romagnolimike27
Beto was fine until he murdered his political career by saying not only does he want to ban guns, but that the government would....
romagnolimike27
...be coming to forcibly take the current ones away from their owners. (you may want gun control, but this was immensely stupid to say.)
WrathOfJigglypuff
How much did his opponent pay him to say this?
StarscreamAndHutch
Beto was a poor choice because of 2a and i wish he hadnt stepped into the election. An unknown would have been better for the middle votes.
Devilmask0
I love living in texas, lots of nice people. I'm tired of the racism and our appointed leaders. I vote often but it falls on deaf ears
farflung1
You gotta vote with your feet bro
nesurame
Ah, the Red Foreman method.
Dannyalcatraz
PREACH!
RoamingEast
that's cause 'all those nice people' are voting for racism and misogyny. The niceness is a façade
Fishkeeper
There's some great people here! Also some terrible weather. I'd like to have a word with whichever of my ancestors decided to move here.
Fynndango
I just spent a week in Texas and the people are super nice. Come stay with me in Michigan.
Fishkeeper
Ah, the opposite kind of terrible weather!
Fynndango
MikeWay
It’s why I stayed since 16 years ago, friendly even if bad govt leaders. Lately tho, at least in Austin, more vanity and rushing around
Devilmask0
There's a place for everyone in texas. Austin isn't my cup of tea, but that's ok. Plenty of people like it so it's a good fit for them.
klaatubarada
The racism isn't a deal-breaker, and you "love" it there?
Dannyalcatraz
If you think racism isn’t an issue- a very SERIOUS issue- everywhere in the USA, this black dude has a news flash for you.
klaatubarada
When did I say that?
Dannyalcatraz
You implied that racism in Texas should be a deal-breaker. I’m black, and have lived in multiple states. If racism were a deal-breaker,
Dannyalcatraz
there’s no place in the USA for me to stay.
Rectalexam
The one thing not listed would be the brain drain of medical professionals, lawyers, professors, engineers, etc
amb1021
Yeah, that'd be hilarious to watch.
spicepoet
Already happening? Locally (north blue state) has opened 2 new Life Sciences and one Pharma campus. Lot of people from Houston relocating.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I think the US would be ok with that.
WrathOfJigglypuff
Between the science denial and pre-historic abortion demands, I bet a lot of those professionals are fleeing anyway.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
What brain drain? Texas is literally one of the most hostile states to be an educated professional in, especially docs. They had to get 1/2
oreosandonions
I might have misread the comment, but I think @Rectalexam meant Texas would lose those professions.
Rectalexam
Yes. That's what I meant
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Armed guards to protect the medical staff who didn't buy into "covid is fake!" Shit. I highly doubt they'd stay, as they would be #1 on 2/3
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Texas' kill list. As the educated are being threatened when they aren't a single party dictatorship, you think anyone with a brain stays?3/3
AkaStarLord
Depends on the area. Houston has the largest medical center in the world and is a great place for healthcare professionals.
AkaStarLord
But overall, yes texas is pretty shit.
graehall
Great read which demonstrates how little practical thought the GOP put into shit but instead are driven by vile selfish ideology.
Fynndango
They know it's not a viable option, but honestly, as much as it will hurt people there, just let them go. We don't need Texas.
billpod
But do we really want a shithole country on our southern border?
TsubakiTragic
I disagree. They are driven by sound bites for their supporters... has nothing to do with reality/ability/economics/god.
GRaffted
But they are doing et in da nem of FrEeDumb.
Legomaniac91
When your only motivation is "fuck the libs", long term planning gets kicked out the window.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
"Practical thought? What's that?!" - GOP
TK421isAFK
The only thing I disagree with is the sports teams - we have Canadian teams in the NHL, NBA, and MLB. Doesn't mean TX teams won't move, tho.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Yeah Canada is a functioning country that has always been on good terms with the USA. None of those things are true for a seceded TX
TK421isAFK
None of that is true for Texas and the rest of the US right now.
StarSpangledAwesome
I mean there was that one time when the hosers came down and had a bonfire at the White House, but let bygones be bygones, Canada, we cool!
TK421isAFK
Hell, they were just going after Andrew Jackson anyway. Kinda sad they missed.
Kingdomonsterdeath
The sports team would leave very quickly. No profit to be made in a failing sovereign state of that size.
TK421isAFK
Agreed. I assume they would move very quickly, as would most companies that no longer have US protections, nor authorization to build 1/2
TK421isAFK
anything that gets sold or used by the US gov't or military. 2/2
apostlepk
It would take a LOT for those sports teams to leave established fanbases. That one is a stretch. NHL has teams in Canada.
MajorasTerribleFate
The teams make money from ticket sales, merch, etc. A lot of that depends on free movement, and needing a passport to go to Texas? Not great
MajorasTerribleFate
Plus, the merch being subject to whatever tariffs the state need to levy to offset their likely low general tax rate. Or the taxes are high.
apostlepk
That implies laws will be implemented to impede money to billionaires. What world you living in where that happens?
MajorasTerribleFate
My point is that it would be harder for out of state fans to attend games in TX, and vice versa. Would TX ever get to host the Super Bowl?
NightHouseAssociation
Republican voters are dumb as fuck
KamikazeGerbil101
Cilvaa
The GOP is the party of and for stupid people.
ongoglabogian
Double the stupidity for Texas Republican voters..
7hatsBollocks
And the deepest layer of stupidity. Black and gay Texan Republicans. It's like Jews for Hitler at this point. Lol good luck!
tentacularfleshscape
To the down voters, if there's nine nazis at a table and you sit down with them, there's ten Nazis now. Don't like it, start your own party
datphone777365
yep.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
I don't really like that analogy that merely sitting down with them makes you one. You're probably right in most cases but there are cases1)
tentacularfleshscape
Appologize for the imprecision of my statement, context applies to those who conveniently overlook nature of others in their chosen group
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
well it seems it made perfect sense to everyone else and im just stupid so no worries
tentacularfleshscape
Nah all good man I assumed a common cultural lexicon of which this element escaped you
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
2)like Daryl Davis, a black man brave enough to sit down with KKK members, and convinced many of them, including leaders, to quit.
Mustakraken
He didn't join them, he confronted them and challenged their assumptions. This example doesn't apply.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
The comment I responded too said "sit down with" which is exactly what he did and why I didn't like the analogy.
datphone777365
this.
uponstrangeshores
They meant Britain and the EU. Not UK.
WrathOfJigglypuff
To be fair, Ireland and Scotland are now openly discussing leaving the Union after the Brexit shenanigans, so there is that.
Youhavinagiraffe
*Northern Ireland. And those discussions started a LONG time before Brexit in both countries although it could well be the tipping point...
Youhavinagiraffe
...for both of them since Scotland may now have a majority in favour of independence and most people in NI expect Irish reunification to...
Youhavinagiraffe
...happen within the next 25 years even though the majority probably wouldn't vote for it happening now
palmo
They also seemed to suggest that Texas is the only state with a border to Mexico. It is one of 4.
springmom
They have by FAR the longest border with Mexico, over 1200 miles of it, and they'd have to pony up that money themselves.
HiddenSanity
It means that Texas will not have the USAs help/funding to secure their border.
Youhavinagiraffe
I think in context it clearly means THEIR border with Mexico is entirely their responsibility
BrotherEstapol
Britain leaving the UK would just leave Northern Ireland as the UK right?
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
Kingdom of Ireland* The UK is 3 Kingdoms (England, Scotland, Ireland) and 1 Principality (Wales)
blcollier
Wales is not a principality.
DewiMorgan
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/un-report-causes-stir-wales-1906214 Yup. HRH Charles has no role in running the country.
drosophilamelanogaster
No. The United Kingdom refers to the union of the Scottish and English crowns/kingdoms.
DameDePiques
I'm sorry, but you are wrong.
SimonGruberr
The UK made up of four nations. Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England.
drosophilamelanogaster
I know what my own country is made up of. The 'United Kingdom' part refers only to the union of Scotland and England.
uponstrangeshores
Yeah. And possibly all those overseas territories.
nangke
I was curious to see if anyone else noticed that
llamprey
Scotland isn't crazy about Brexit. And Ireland aint' part of it.
isetliseth
Scotland is part Britain and the UK, Ireland isn't a part of either
FoamingToad
Northern Ireland, not Eire.
DukeDarkwood
NI is, though, which has caused them some consternation since they now share a land border with a foreign country.
Chereazi
Don't tell them why it's a bad idea, just agree that they should do it. It's better for everyone!
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JusticePhrall
That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Dump those whiny seditionists.
Jewdakris
For real, like when your friend has a dumb idea and you just wanna see it blow up in his face.
RideTheStimutacs
I want to see how fast any secession movement plans to live without California & New York's economies raking in billions.
RideTheStimutacs
Suddenly no major film, tech, or finance industry? Cool, enjoy your oil.
januarylover
I would love it to actually happen but it's all just bluster. Like everything GQP.
llamprey
Let them make Texas into the third world country they aspire to.
WrongUn
EXACTLY what I thought. Let them fuck off and they can deal with the fallout afterwards!
recury
No it isn’t, Texas is gerrymandered to hell and half its populace held prisoner by GOP idiots
llamprey
The populace allowed this to happen. Or they helped make it happen. No sympathy. AT ALL.
Chereazi
Well, this'll get em to act. Otherwise it'll just stay in the current state for decades, a net positive!
casbott
Austin can be like Berlin was in East Germany, and carved out as an exception.
datphone777365
they can help split the state in half then. blue state texas vs red christofacist texas.
Fishkeeper
All the non-shitty people in Texas would disagree with you on that.
benderfreak
Both?
WrongUn
Well those 11 people shall be allowed to relocate then
Fishkeeper
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/state/texas/party-affiliation/ Slightly more than 11 people.
Fishkeeper
And not everyone has the money or ability to move.
WrongUn
Omfg its a joke, chill Winston!
MyDogIsBiggerThanABanana
Better yet, reverse psychology; tell them they can't... they'll sprint face first into the wall proving they can.
Stefnos
wont they have to build that wall first thoe?
Chereazi
Ohhhh, let's tell them they can't do it because it's racist and hurts minorities disproportionately... They're gone by tomorrow!
dmjalund
Also it will own the libs
Lun4ticH1gh
I'll simplify this even further. Greg Abbot, you have been ORDERED by democrat Joe Biden NOT to secede from the Union. You are NOT ALLOWED.
FritztheChef
As a left leaning Texan who's actually smart enough to understand this, I'm down for this. Just let me leave first.
MikeyA15
Same. LET ME OUT FIRST
amb1021
There would definitely be a period of free movement, in both directions. A lot of nuts would move to Republic of Texas. Win-win!
Jimthebutler
And then we nuke it
Tynford
It’s the only way to be sure
timmaybanks
Build a better idiot trap I see
Voojagig
But what will really happen is nothing. They've been threatening this for years and never get past the bitching stage.
Filanwizard
In part because TX cannot legally leave the USA.
361WoodStudio
Texas reserved the right to secede in the state constitution.
seregsarn
They can't do it unilaterally; the theory that they can is based on nonsense with no legal bearing, and the current understanding in the >
seregsarn
Constitutional law space is that the civil war established firmly that no state, not even Texas, can secede without a negotiation involved.
levelor
It's in the published Texas GOP platform. Among other things.
VitaminBeaPositive
The GOP is all bullshit. 100% certified bullshit, and anyone who believes their bullshit is a naive fool.
MagnorCriol
It’s because, for the reasons in this thread plus many many MANY others, it’s a completely ludicrous and untenable notion.
vickyblr
I'd always thought Quebec would seceded from Canada before Texas would secede from the US.
Spudd86
Quebec can afford it even less than Texas.
DukePhelan
That's because conservatives are 'All hat and no cattle' as the saying is down there. They talk shit but won't do a damn thing.
Photeus
Always liked that saying. Sums up the situation well.
abidikgubidik
Hey, if that's how we get rid of Ted Cruz, I'm all for it!!!
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
It’s just to change the narrative, that’s all
ShadyEsperanto
Let's help them. I think if you proposed a constitutional amendment to let texas secede, at least 80% of the US population would sign it.
Apothecarius
Can we trade Texas for Puerto Rico and still have 50 states? I vote for that.
PTMdragon
PR has been choosing not to be a sate for a while now afaik
ShadyEsperanto
Are you good with 51? Because I was hoping we could ask D.C. to officially join the party too.
celestedrake
I am.
weathercow
52, Guam needs to finally have a voice. 53 if you lump in the VI, which, why not?
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
I saw a report on this a while ago. There is basically no popular support for this idea. Not that the GOP would care about that, but still.
nangke
If I were a white male, I'd go to any gathering (political or not) and just chant "TEXIT" until the notion memefies. Could be all it takes
CerisCinderwolf
But what if... just.. what if. It's such a beautiful thing to imagine.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
To keep the Brexit analogy: they're like the Tories who loved to bitch about the EU, but didn't want to leave because it was way more (1)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
beneficial to the UK than they liked to admit and also it made a great scapegoat. (2)
DukeDarkwood
The problem was, they eventually got their wish, and I really don't think they planned on it.
ElviraQueenOfDarkness
Ever read the newsstories if old english people living in the costa. Who are bitching because they have to do the immigration exam!
ElviraQueenOfDarkness
In Spanish! Why do I have to learn spanish.
celestedrake
Unfortunately.
Snooj
How about we start a "Give Texas what it wants and kick it out of the Union" movement? For the 50th state I nominate Puerto Rico.
N8dork2020
PR, Guam, DC
dandanthedrywallman
As a DC native, we have more people than Wyoming. And we’re solid blue. Pick us!
Penguinsandbroadswords
I pick you first, I'd like PR to have the right to choose, and let Hawaii decide if it wants to go on friendlier terms than Texas as well.
PTMdragon
Hawaii is a major naval strategic point. They will be rendered non-civilian before given the option to leave sadly.
RedXer
I believe PR does have the right to choose and prefers to stay a territory.
stickywiggit
They go back and forth. There's pretty much no easy decision - pros and cons for both
StarscreamAndHutch
Theres *always* legislation for this every session. Been there for years. Its dumb and only there to keep the dumbs riled up about not being
YourPalCthulhu
Texas has its own special brand of nationalism. Everything is not "bigger" in Texas. Only heads and parking lots.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Don't forget egos. Oh also its only the upper head, the lower one is shriveled like mitch McConnells neck.
StarscreamAndHutch
Told what to do by the Washington elites.
Ronelyn
It's a biiiit different when they literally have a plank in the state GOP platform that says "Trump won 2020." :(
CaptSheffield
They can take that asswhole and good riddance.
StarscreamAndHutch
Thats a different issue, same results. Dumbs get all worked up over it to stick it to the Washington libs or whatever. Legally someone/
StarscreamAndHutch
Should get fucked, but we all know nothing will come of it fast enough to matter. Its all posture preparing for 11/8/22.
TheFunionKnight
Yeah we thought that about brexit all it takes career politicians looking to save their own cash and kick backs
zstorm6
They're using it as cover while they promote repealing the civil rights act
archimboldi
It is crisis manufacturing
heroesblood
These stupid fucks never read a single Texas History book. They DRILLED IT IN that secession failed, and would fail every time. Idiots.
NomDeImguerre
That's what they said about Brexit. Talk about a stupid idea long enough, and people start to take it seriously.
bacross
See Quebec…
mirria
Quebec actually came close - twice, and they actually have a reason beside a political pissing match. It's no longer popular though.
bacross
Like 49% last time.
CosmicGastropod
Exactly, as a blue texan, they just rattle this sabre everytime they are pissy. 95% dont really want this. It would be a disaster.
vegivamp
We thought that about the UK as well. All it took was one idiot willing to run the referendum, and a few willing to enact it.
DukeDarkwood
It's a bluff because they literally know most to all of the above points. It's also a show, for the rubes to think "Yeah, we're Texas, we
DukeDarkwood
don't need anybody!" Just keep waving the idea in front of them without acting on it.
TheCommentWoman
Thank fuck for that, if you ask me.