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malbec
But we don’t fetishize blowing the fucking head of a duck because it gave you a legally justifiable reason to do so.
krunchybssehku
Well now it just sounds like we’re promoting hunting people for sport.
RideTheStimutacs
"And while I'm on the subject, fuck that smug laughing dog."
zHurk777
The Limit Is So That Ducks Wont Get Wiped Out !!! - magas.
morninggloryshade777
Way past time to get the fascists, haters, intolerants, ignorant & whackjobs OUT OF POLITICS!
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
It’s already illegal to take guns to school! Maybe we should be asking, “what’s wrong with US schools that kids want to shoot everyone?”
ghettogladiator1
Nice point. I’m afraid that it may be lost on some people
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
The limit is only if you're hunting ducks. The legal magazine size limit for hunting people is 0. Don't let that stop the outrage, tho
industrylife
Gone need some sauce
LightStriker
But ducks ain't people.
Columbus43219
But see, the reason they want to protect the ducks is so that more people get to kill one.
feren
It became more profitable to the corporate machine to exploit the congress-critters than it was to exploit the ducks, that's all.
LlamaCheese1
I for one wish there were more ducks in congress
Mercurybird
There should be more ducks in schools
TeleportingDonkeys
Hunting humans is already illegal, hunting ducks isnt
Gandzialfman
it's absolutely legal and it's called war
O i meant for the people for whom the laws apply, I didnt mean the government
JNazey
I would have thought hunting humans was already illegal.- I guess limit it to three at a time?
ishovethingsupmyass
No offense, but fuck politics on Imgur. Sick and tired of of looking at human feces while I'm trying to find something to enjoy.
SergeyPrkl
I agree. Also, I'm sick and tired of American freedom humbug.
TerriblePokemon
Hahahaha welcome to the front page
AutoFox
There is no reason to have over a 10-round magazine in anything other than a machinegun. Especially if it's detachable.
Kottok
Some sauce: https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/legal-use-of-firearms-and-archery-tackle/
It's a DWR law, which usually has the animals best interest in mind. Funny how people laws don't do the same.
Cedr3000
kraquepype
Whatever you do, don't shoot the dog!
Mxlespxles
Ayo fuck that snickering asshole
"is that doom music?" - ducks, maybe.
kaneinencanto
That's more in this one's lane - https://youtu.be/16U394NZSTk
I want
DoseOfScience
... No, the magazine limit was designed to decrease hunting rates. Also, they still make plenty of shottys, they just fine you if you use1
one that can handle more than three rounds at once.
tounushi
would they offer a grace period to buy a part that caps the magazine? I'm sure there are tube caps that have a rod that makes it so.
I got hit with a fine because I took mine out hunting without checking (base mag was 5 rounds) and he just gave me a ticket. You don't have1
to get special guns or declare them for anything to my knowledge. You can get a shotty that handles fifteen rounds or has a detachable mag.
tlamstrike
My Mossberg 500 just had a wooden rod in the tube to limit it to 3 rounds. I used it for home defense so I just popped it out.
quietwalker
On the other hand, the world would be a better place with more ducks. More people ... eh.... *makes weighing gesture with hands*
sadurdaynight
You have to think like a sociopathic business person. We don't give a shit about people, b/c raising a kid costs tons of $$$. If we 1/
can get kids killed, and force women to crank out more, then we've forced the population to increase (so labor loses its wage negotiation 2/
power), and we've forced a lot of people to come up with a ton of $ to pay for kids, which increases profits for a lot of businesses. And 3/
we've got a lot of wage slave population we can abuse in the near-future. It's a win-win-win for big business./
skipweasel
Humans are harder to hit - they can hide in classrooms and stuff.
SithElephant
Republicans: Fine, you can have three rounds magazines if we have an eight month season on poor people.
wingineer
Ridiculous, the GOP would never offer to shorten the 12-month season on poor people!
They wouldn't have to yell 'he's coming right for us' beforehand, so maybe.
Hm! I’m still not sure it’ll work, but it’s your kind of creative thinking that leads to new vistas in diplomacy.
MySushi
But, duck meat is delicious though
RickRollable
So is human meat
Sorry, I mean so I'm told
It wouldn't taste much different from pork, only a bit drier, less marbling and no earthy or gamey flavours in city people, at least 1/2
Most people are lazy, so the meat would also be stiff, wash too much and have very boring diets. The flavours come from variety, I think
InfocalypseRising
Magazine size is such an obvious misdirect anyway. Like oh it’s ok if only a certain number of kids die? Just ban the fucking guns.
Ah just like we did with drugs and alcohol!
Subsound
Be what you want to see in the world. Get out there to organize, reach people, and get it done.
Attaroo
We are so far from revoking the 2nd amendment it's hard to understand this POV.
I mean, do I think it’s gonna happen? No. But pretending that limiting mag size is any kind of real solution is braindead
anglarite
There is a law against killing people, whoever decides to break that one would not care of magazine limits to be honest.
Kommadore
That's why the supply of high-capacity magazines should be curtailed. Who realistically needs them?
Advocating for shooting the unarmed? If they are shooting back you're not likely to get more than a few anyway.
Imgur is great. If you post "punch a Nazi" they cheer you, if you post "shoot a Klansman" they'll tell you resistance is futile.
I'm not saying you shoot the racists who want to lynch you by yourself at a parade.
SleventyEleventy
They're not armed NOW, they're in uniform, and the instant they get a gun they won't hesitate to shoot the unarmed.
csullivan
derklempner
Ah yes, the "children" that include people all the way up to 19 years old.
..what point are you making??
That gun control groups fudge the numbers to create moral panics. Its like with the recent push against "ghost guns", the post ATF trace①
data showing there are so many untraceable guns because of the increase in 80% lowers and 3D printed guns when in the actual data the②
number of those equals the number of untraceable guns that were because they were originally police purchases with no Form 4473, and the③
idownvoteyourpuppy
Well ducks can't use guns so the normal solution of putting guns in the hands of good ducks doesn't work.
litelbrown
Molvanian
That's quitter talk!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Got it. So we need to adapt guns to be used by ducks.
lncorrectGrammerNazi
You joke, but that sounds like an excuse that republicans would come up with, and it sucks that I have to kinda take that comment seriously.
vegivamp
Yes, that was exactly the joke. Sadly enough.
Ohyesireallydidthat
Maybe hire someone with guns to protect the ducks from 3+ rounds?
HasteTheFool
I disagree, plenty of quackers with guns.
Buddha7
The solution is obvious: mass government subsidies for the genetic modification of ducks to give them opposable thumbs (but NO healthcare)
We must arm the ducks so that we may arm the ducks and remove the shotgun magazine limit: shotguns can read as many magazines as they want
NuclearMonk
Already attempted, but we ended up with Canadian Geese instead.
narniasreal
Only thing that can stop a bad hunter with a gun is a good duck with a gun.
Batmannequin
Don't - I repeat, DON'T - give these fuckers ideas.
Corrodias
Datsinginguy
Have you you seen Daffy Duck? Tell me he's not armed!
KalmaWallu
They are all good ducks, Bront.
ShiftingPattern
Looks like someone is blissfully unaware of the rapey behavior and evolutionary arm's race that led to the corkscrew/labyrinth dynamic...
Like, I'm sorry, but when scientists talk about "defensive vaginal features" evolved in direct response to persistent rape, they're not good
In the absence of objective good and evil, even having sex can be seen as a part of being what a duck is supposed to be.
Guess it's a good thing there is no absence of objective good and evil then. Let me help you out: Rape is evil.
Whole that's nice and edgy as well as philosophical, the truth of the matter is that most species - even insects - have a concept of consent
dohcohv
Magazine limits aren't the issue. 90% of firearm deaths are from handguns, many only carry 7 or 8 rounds.
lordlunge
Ban everything but single shot flint lock.
ParaBellumOutfitters
and the Gutenberg press!
Ainoskedoyu
That's conflating two entirely different statements
papanickles
Double stacked handgun clips hold around 12-17
*magazines, and yes, but a 1911 can still kill very easily and mag changes don't take long.
GodoWar77
First off, try your mag swaps under duress, with an elevated heart rate and perspiration. Then tell me again how easy and fast they are.
You're argument as a whole is BS. Don't create rules because someone might get good or find a hack around it. SMH
DianNaoChong
But generally the guns in mass shootings don't
basiccricket8444
I support 6 shooters only. Must wear bandolier, spurs and say "this school ain't big enough fer the two of us" before they gun down children
SarcasticComment
they are an issue in mass shootings which is a uniquely American issue that requited civil protections.
If it's uniquely American and other countries can have rifles....
they have drastically better laws at all steps of the process.
And a government that somewhat cares about its citizens.
I honestly find it annoying how quickly the optics of "not wanting guns with large magazines used in shootings" gets muddied.
I just don't like wasting resources on fringe cases when actual good could be done instead. It's like how Canada banned the H&K G11 by name
Despite H&K only making a couple of prototypes and none were ever sold to the public. Bunch of wasted time and money.
ucandcantunc
Nothing is perfect, need to start somewhere
alaest0r
Background checks, DV bans, and closing private/show loopholes would be FAR more effective than banning X sort of gun or a limit to N rounds
atropos81018
Yeahhhh, if we could start with effective application of the existing gun control laws, that'd be greeeattttt.. but, like, for real though.
Start with the most deadly, the one used in 90% of killings. Don't go for the one used in 5%. Shotguns kill about as many people as rifles.
~6,000/yr for pistols, 550/yr for rifles and 450/yr for shotguns.
AltruisticMoron
The argument of "bad guys will find a way" applies to most pistol killings. But there isn't another way to committ mass murders, limit mags
Youhavinagiraffe
As with any suggestion for firearms "this regulation won't fix everything on its own" is a straw man. Many different regulation reforms...
...are needed and can contribute in part to reducing the high prevelance of suicide, murder and mass shootings in the US. No law on its...
...own will be a (pardon the expression) magic bullet. Literally any regulation is better than the almost nothing that exists now
Nothing will fix everything on its own, but targeting the least used weapons won't really save anyone. 10x as many people are murdered with
You realise that 1 in 10 firearms murders in the US is still about 2000 every year. Debating over what the top priority should be is less...
...important than doing literally anything to make a dent anywhere... at all... ever
Handguns than rifles.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Calling the weapon used in every recent mass shooting "the least used weapon" is incredibly disingenuous.
It's not used in every recent mass shooting, only the ones that the media reports on. The ones with pistols get bypassed because they dont
Because they don't result in dozens of dead children, yes. The number of victims is typically around 3.That's exactly why "least used" is BS
Generate the rage clicks that the rifle ones do. Handguns are used in more mass shootings than rifles, they are used in more murders.
You know full well which kind of mass shooting I'm talking about & that these events are vastly deadlier than the "3 shot with handgun" kind
INeverWaitForIt
Magazine limits *help*. Nothing is going to solve the problem at this point, the best we can hope for at this point is limiting the damage
Tooltimedave
California has 10 round limit. Guy still had 30 round magazines to do a mass murder. Laws don't stop criminals.
unclefisty
The Vtech shooter used 10rnd mags. didnt seem to help.
CakeShapedPie
Remove the reasons for people to become desperate and all crime/murder will plumit. A UBI and universal healthcare would go a long way
And the odds are that are zero for at least forty years. If it didn't happen after Sandy Hook, it's not going to happen for generations.
Kitehammer
Massive societal restructuring will help. Social mobility, financial stability, and career opportunities help. Not this waste of time.
takedown751
Reading books would help and they're free
I agree, but what's more likely to happen--massive societal restructuring, or adopting a law like in CA that limits magazine sizes?
Of course we're more likely to get meaningless symbolic victories. Doesn't make actual progress unworthy of pursuit.
of mass shootings. Also, half of all firearm deaths are suicide, so magazine limitations shouldn't be used in those statistics.
Trunkmonkay
Mass shootings account for less than 1% of gun deaths. Universal basic income would be significantly more effective than a ban of any kind.
"...more than cancer, more than car accidents, and...you don't give a flying fuck."
Those kids aren't dying in mass shootings, they're dying in gang shoot outs, infanticide, and accidents. Again, UBI would do more to solve
Ok, 90% of murders are committed with handguns. The original national firearms regulation, the NFA, was to ban pistols completely but it was
Pulled at the last second, which is why we still have the short barreled rifle rules, a minimum length for a firearm, which is pointless if
Pistols are legal. Very few people rob, murder or kill with rifles. It's easy to spot someone carrying one and pistols are much cheaper.
stonetemplefox05
I own one gun, it's for home defense and if I ever need to use it I don't need to be hobbled with 3 rounds against people it doesn't effect.
Use a shotgun; more effective, don't have to be as accurate, easier to operate, 3 rounds of 12ga is enough.
It's next on my list, but honestly moving that thing around corners is kind of a liability.
LarvaLamp
I once heard the most effective thing about a shotgun against home invaders is the "chk-chk" loading sound. You rarely have to shoot after>
Minor compared to the advantages, it also doesn't over penetrate like pistol rounds.
ClutterMonkey
And about half of those deaths only used one bullet.
yes. and home many are used in shootings of 2 or more deaths? magazine limits are meant to further prevent mass shootings, not suicides
80% of mass shooting deaths are by pistols.
so regulate those as well. crazy to think we should be 100% done with this shit as a society.
RootMeanSqr
So they work as designed.
The implication is half of gun deaths in America are self deletion.
TomahawkJackson
I'm sure Congress will find a way to blame Millennials for that, too.
Millennials are killing the breathing industry?
Mostlydeadpool
malbec
But we don’t fetishize blowing the fucking head of a duck because it gave you a legally justifiable reason to do so.
krunchybssehku
Well now it just sounds like we’re promoting hunting people for sport.
RideTheStimutacs
"And while I'm on the subject, fuck that smug laughing dog."
zHurk777
The Limit Is So That Ducks Wont Get Wiped Out !!! - magas.
morninggloryshade777
Way past time to get the fascists, haters, intolerants, ignorant & whackjobs OUT OF POLITICS!
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
It’s already illegal to take guns to school! Maybe we should be asking, “what’s wrong with US schools that kids want to shoot everyone?”
ghettogladiator1
Nice point. I’m afraid that it may be lost on some people
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
The limit is only if you're hunting ducks. The legal magazine size limit for hunting people is 0. Don't let that stop the outrage, tho
industrylife
Gone need some sauce
LightStriker
But ducks ain't people.
Columbus43219
But see, the reason they want to protect the ducks is so that more people get to kill one.
feren
It became more profitable to the corporate machine to exploit the congress-critters than it was to exploit the ducks, that's all.
LlamaCheese1
I for one wish there were more ducks in congress
Mercurybird
There should be more ducks in schools
TeleportingDonkeys
Hunting humans is already illegal, hunting ducks isnt
Gandzialfman
it's absolutely legal and it's called war
TeleportingDonkeys
O i meant for the people for whom the laws apply, I didnt mean the government
JNazey
I would have thought hunting humans was already illegal.- I guess limit it to three at a time?
ishovethingsupmyass
No offense, but fuck politics on Imgur. Sick and tired of of looking at human feces while I'm trying to find something to enjoy.
SergeyPrkl
I agree. Also, I'm sick and tired of American freedom humbug.
TerriblePokemon
Hahahaha welcome to the front page
AutoFox
There is no reason to have over a 10-round magazine in anything other than a machinegun. Especially if it's detachable.
Kottok
Some sauce: https://dwr.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/legal-use-of-firearms-and-archery-tackle/
Kottok
It's a DWR law, which usually has the animals best interest in mind. Funny how people laws don't do the same.
Cedr3000
kraquepype
Whatever you do, don't shoot the dog!
Mxlespxles
Ayo fuck that snickering asshole
Mostlydeadpool
"is that doom music?" - ducks, maybe.
kaneinencanto
That's more in this one's lane - https://youtu.be/16U394NZSTk
Mxlespxles
I want
DoseOfScience
... No, the magazine limit was designed to decrease hunting rates. Also, they still make plenty of shottys, they just fine you if you use1
DoseOfScience
one that can handle more than three rounds at once.
tounushi
would they offer a grace period to buy a part that caps the magazine? I'm sure there are tube caps that have a rod that makes it so.
DoseOfScience
I got hit with a fine because I took mine out hunting without checking (base mag was 5 rounds) and he just gave me a ticket. You don't have1
DoseOfScience
to get special guns or declare them for anything to my knowledge. You can get a shotty that handles fifteen rounds or has a detachable mag.
tlamstrike
My Mossberg 500 just had a wooden rod in the tube to limit it to 3 rounds. I used it for home defense so I just popped it out.
quietwalker
On the other hand, the world would be a better place with more ducks. More people ... eh.... *makes weighing gesture with hands*
sadurdaynight
You have to think like a sociopathic business person. We don't give a shit about people, b/c raising a kid costs tons of $$$. If we 1/
sadurdaynight
can get kids killed, and force women to crank out more, then we've forced the population to increase (so labor loses its wage negotiation 2/
sadurdaynight
power), and we've forced a lot of people to come up with a ton of $ to pay for kids, which increases profits for a lot of businesses. And 3/
sadurdaynight
we've got a lot of wage slave population we can abuse in the near-future. It's a win-win-win for big business./
skipweasel
Humans are harder to hit - they can hide in classrooms and stuff.
SithElephant
Republicans: Fine, you can have three rounds magazines if we have an eight month season on poor people.
wingineer
Ridiculous, the GOP would never offer to shorten the 12-month season on poor people!
SithElephant
They wouldn't have to yell 'he's coming right for us' beforehand, so maybe.
wingineer
Hm! I’m still not sure it’ll work, but it’s your kind of creative thinking that leads to new vistas in diplomacy.
MySushi
But, duck meat is delicious though
RickRollable
So is human meat
RickRollable
Sorry, I mean so I'm told
MySushi
It wouldn't taste much different from pork, only a bit drier, less marbling and no earthy or gamey flavours in city people, at least 1/2
MySushi
Most people are lazy, so the meat would also be stiff, wash too much and have very boring diets. The flavours come from variety, I think
InfocalypseRising
Magazine size is such an obvious misdirect anyway. Like oh it’s ok if only a certain number of kids die? Just ban the fucking guns.
tlamstrike
Ah just like we did with drugs and alcohol!
Subsound
Be what you want to see in the world. Get out there to organize, reach people, and get it done.
Attaroo
We are so far from revoking the 2nd amendment it's hard to understand this POV.
InfocalypseRising
I mean, do I think it’s gonna happen? No. But pretending that limiting mag size is any kind of real solution is braindead
anglarite
There is a law against killing people, whoever decides to break that one would not care of magazine limits to be honest.
Kommadore
That's why the supply of high-capacity magazines should be curtailed. Who realistically needs them?
tlamstrike
Kommadore
Advocating for shooting the unarmed? If they are shooting back you're not likely to get more than a few anyway.
tlamstrike
Imgur is great. If you post "punch a Nazi" they cheer you, if you post "shoot a Klansman" they'll tell you resistance is futile.
tlamstrike
I'm not saying you shoot the racists who want to lynch you by yourself at a parade.
SleventyEleventy
They're not armed NOW, they're in uniform, and the instant they get a gun they won't hesitate to shoot the unarmed.
csullivan
derklempner
Ah yes, the "children" that include people all the way up to 19 years old.
csullivan
..what point are you making??
tlamstrike
That gun control groups fudge the numbers to create moral panics. Its like with the recent push against "ghost guns", the post ATF trace①
tlamstrike
data showing there are so many untraceable guns because of the increase in 80% lowers and 3D printed guns when in the actual data the②
tlamstrike
number of those equals the number of untraceable guns that were because they were originally police purchases with no Form 4473, and the③
idownvoteyourpuppy
Well ducks can't use guns so the normal solution of putting guns in the hands of good ducks doesn't work.
litelbrown
Molvanian
That's quitter talk!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Got it. So we need to adapt guns to be used by ducks.
lncorrectGrammerNazi
You joke, but that sounds like an excuse that republicans would come up with, and it sucks that I have to kinda take that comment seriously.
vegivamp
Yes, that was exactly the joke. Sadly enough.
Ohyesireallydidthat
Maybe hire someone with guns to protect the ducks from 3+ rounds?
HasteTheFool
I disagree, plenty of quackers with guns.
Buddha7
The solution is obvious: mass government subsidies for the genetic modification of ducks to give them opposable thumbs (but NO healthcare)
Buddha7
We must arm the ducks so that we may arm the ducks and remove the shotgun magazine limit: shotguns can read as many magazines as they want
NuclearMonk
Already attempted, but we ended up with Canadian Geese instead.
narniasreal
Only thing that can stop a bad hunter with a gun is a good duck with a gun.
Batmannequin
Don't - I repeat, DON'T - give these fuckers ideas.
Corrodias
Datsinginguy
Have you you seen Daffy Duck? Tell me he's not armed!
KalmaWallu
They are all good ducks, Bront.
ShiftingPattern
Looks like someone is blissfully unaware of the rapey behavior and evolutionary arm's race that led to the corkscrew/labyrinth dynamic...
ShiftingPattern
Like, I'm sorry, but when scientists talk about "defensive vaginal features" evolved in direct response to persistent rape, they're not good
KalmaWallu
In the absence of objective good and evil, even having sex can be seen as a part of being what a duck is supposed to be.
ShiftingPattern
Guess it's a good thing there is no absence of objective good and evil then. Let me help you out: Rape is evil.
vegivamp
Whole that's nice and edgy as well as philosophical, the truth of the matter is that most species - even insects - have a concept of consent
dohcohv
Magazine limits aren't the issue. 90% of firearm deaths are from handguns, many only carry 7 or 8 rounds.
lordlunge
Ban everything but single shot flint lock.
ParaBellumOutfitters
and the Gutenberg press!
Ainoskedoyu
That's conflating two entirely different statements
papanickles
Double stacked handgun clips hold around 12-17
dohcohv
*magazines, and yes, but a 1911 can still kill very easily and mag changes don't take long.
GodoWar77
First off, try your mag swaps under duress, with an elevated heart rate and perspiration. Then tell me again how easy and fast they are.
GodoWar77
You're argument as a whole is BS. Don't create rules because someone might get good or find a hack around it. SMH
DianNaoChong
But generally the guns in mass shootings don't
basiccricket8444
I support 6 shooters only. Must wear bandolier, spurs and say "this school ain't big enough fer the two of us" before they gun down children
SarcasticComment
they are an issue in mass shootings which is a uniquely American issue that requited civil protections.
dohcohv
If it's uniquely American and other countries can have rifles....
SarcasticComment
they have drastically better laws at all steps of the process.
dohcohv
And a government that somewhat cares about its citizens.
SarcasticComment
I honestly find it annoying how quickly the optics of "not wanting guns with large magazines used in shootings" gets muddied.
dohcohv
I just don't like wasting resources on fringe cases when actual good could be done instead. It's like how Canada banned the H&K G11 by name
dohcohv
Despite H&K only making a couple of prototypes and none were ever sold to the public. Bunch of wasted time and money.
ucandcantunc
Nothing is perfect, need to start somewhere
alaest0r
Background checks, DV bans, and closing private/show loopholes would be FAR more effective than banning X sort of gun or a limit to N rounds
atropos81018
Yeahhhh, if we could start with effective application of the existing gun control laws, that'd be greeeattttt.. but, like, for real though.
dohcohv
Start with the most deadly, the one used in 90% of killings. Don't go for the one used in 5%. Shotguns kill about as many people as rifles.
dohcohv
~6,000/yr for pistols, 550/yr for rifles and 450/yr for shotguns.
AltruisticMoron
The argument of "bad guys will find a way" applies to most pistol killings. But there isn't another way to committ mass murders, limit mags
Youhavinagiraffe
As with any suggestion for firearms "this regulation won't fix everything on its own" is a straw man. Many different regulation reforms...
Youhavinagiraffe
...are needed and can contribute in part to reducing the high prevelance of suicide, murder and mass shootings in the US. No law on its...
Youhavinagiraffe
...own will be a (pardon the expression) magic bullet. Literally any regulation is better than the almost nothing that exists now
dohcohv
Nothing will fix everything on its own, but targeting the least used weapons won't really save anyone. 10x as many people are murdered with
Youhavinagiraffe
You realise that 1 in 10 firearms murders in the US is still about 2000 every year. Debating over what the top priority should be is less...
Youhavinagiraffe
...important than doing literally anything to make a dent anywhere... at all... ever
dohcohv
Handguns than rifles.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Calling the weapon used in every recent mass shooting "the least used weapon" is incredibly disingenuous.
dohcohv
It's not used in every recent mass shooting, only the ones that the media reports on. The ones with pistols get bypassed because they dont
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Because they don't result in dozens of dead children, yes. The number of victims is typically around 3.That's exactly why "least used" is BS
dohcohv
Generate the rage clicks that the rifle ones do. Handguns are used in more mass shootings than rifles, they are used in more murders.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
You know full well which kind of mass shooting I'm talking about & that these events are vastly deadlier than the "3 shot with handgun" kind
INeverWaitForIt
Magazine limits *help*. Nothing is going to solve the problem at this point, the best we can hope for at this point is limiting the damage
Tooltimedave
California has 10 round limit. Guy still had 30 round magazines to do a mass murder. Laws don't stop criminals.
unclefisty
The Vtech shooter used 10rnd mags. didnt seem to help.
CakeShapedPie
Remove the reasons for people to become desperate and all crime/murder will plumit. A UBI and universal healthcare would go a long way
INeverWaitForIt
And the odds are that are zero for at least forty years. If it didn't happen after Sandy Hook, it's not going to happen for generations.
Kitehammer
Massive societal restructuring will help. Social mobility, financial stability, and career opportunities help. Not this waste of time.
takedown751
Reading books would help and they're free
INeverWaitForIt
I agree, but what's more likely to happen--massive societal restructuring, or adopting a law like in CA that limits magazine sizes?
Kitehammer
Of course we're more likely to get meaningless symbolic victories. Doesn't make actual progress unworthy of pursuit.
INeverWaitForIt
of mass shootings. Also, half of all firearm deaths are suicide, so magazine limitations shouldn't be used in those statistics.
Trunkmonkay
Mass shootings account for less than 1% of gun deaths. Universal basic income would be significantly more effective than a ban of any kind.
INeverWaitForIt
"...more than cancer, more than car accidents, and...you don't give a flying fuck."
Trunkmonkay
Those kids aren't dying in mass shootings, they're dying in gang shoot outs, infanticide, and accidents. Again, UBI would do more to solve
dohcohv
Ok, 90% of murders are committed with handguns. The original national firearms regulation, the NFA, was to ban pistols completely but it was
dohcohv
Pulled at the last second, which is why we still have the short barreled rifle rules, a minimum length for a firearm, which is pointless if
dohcohv
Pistols are legal. Very few people rob, murder or kill with rifles. It's easy to spot someone carrying one and pistols are much cheaper.
stonetemplefox05
I own one gun, it's for home defense and if I ever need to use it I don't need to be hobbled with 3 rounds against people it doesn't effect.
dohcohv
Use a shotgun; more effective, don't have to be as accurate, easier to operate, 3 rounds of 12ga is enough.
stonetemplefox05
It's next on my list, but honestly moving that thing around corners is kind of a liability.
LarvaLamp
I once heard the most effective thing about a shotgun against home invaders is the "chk-chk" loading sound. You rarely have to shoot after>
dohcohv
Minor compared to the advantages, it also doesn't over penetrate like pistol rounds.
ClutterMonkey
And about half of those deaths only used one bullet.
SarcasticComment
yes. and home many are used in shootings of 2 or more deaths? magazine limits are meant to further prevent mass shootings, not suicides
dohcohv
80% of mass shooting deaths are by pistols.
SarcasticComment
so regulate those as well. crazy to think we should be 100% done with this shit as a society.
RootMeanSqr
So they work as designed.
ClutterMonkey
The implication is half of gun deaths in America are self deletion.
TomahawkJackson
I'm sure Congress will find a way to blame Millennials for that, too.
basiccricket8444
Millennials are killing the breathing industry?