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Also sauce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP3cyRRAfX0
Also interesting on the subject: http://gender.stanford.edu/news/2011/is-female-brain-innately-inferior
Also let's all do crazy science together.
Kaiwanichi
As a STEM ambassador it's surprisingly hard to find high schools girls that are interested in science. This explains it pretty well.
balescnhc
You don't have to be told you're bad at something, just given the impression that you should magically be good at it without work.
Smartzombie
That stat is BS. What about the rest of STEM? Physics? Chemistry? Biology? Math? Even higher tier business like Finance?
shadowex3
Majority female, along with every single other area of education at every single level.
MH136
Yeah I thought the same thing, especially with girls who want to work with animals.
pouflubbum
ORPHAN BLACK REFERENCE ANYONE
unresponsivenipples
YEP TOTALLY DID
thisnameistaken
I just did A level maths and in a class of 12 there was only 2 boys
thisnameistaken
Granted there was only 1 girl due to the 9 hermaphrodites
heterocera
first lol of the day
Extulen
66% OF GIRLS like science and maths, 18% OF ENGINEERING MAJORS are girls. These two stats have nothing to do with each other...
gummysharkies
Science/math can be anything! My love of science has nothing to do with engineering. I'm a student nurse. The human body is remarkable!!
MySockHurts
It's cause this ad is bullshit.
Corona688
The ad is a flanderized stereotype, exaggerated but not wrong.
MySockHurts
Exaggerated to the point where it's completely lost all logic and common sense.
Extulen
Compare it to the percentage of guys who like science and maths at the same age, and then we can come to conclusions
GenesisMachines
81.9% of Eng' mayors are male.
shadowex3
barely 1/3rd of college graduates overall are male. Suddenly the picture changes when you include the context.
canadiancoreeh
100% agree, I just read through the comments looking for this. very different stats
resipsaloquitor
I wanted to be a lawyer when I was a little girl. I'm a lawyer now, and a volunteer firefighter to boot. Girls can beat stereotypes with a
resipsaloquitor
good support system.
Jadedragon
I don't think "liking" science and math is equal to enjoying a field. I enjoy painting miniatures but I've no interest in majoring art.
unijaw
Same I love my instruments but the idea of making money or a life from it is foreign to me. People say make what you love your job. But-
unijaw
I'm not sure I would love it once it became my job. I've experienced this before with Programming.
KingSchultz1
I used to adore music at 5 years old. Because all it was was tapping a triangle. I grew out of it when I got older. So do many people.
azazyel
Also if they go into science that's a good way to meet a doctor! /sarcasm
shitfuckdamnit
in my career it's been implied that I was a stripper and that it was OK for me to ask dumb questions because I'm a girl #thestruggleisreal
heterocera
What is your career?
shitfuckdamnit
currently, PhD candidate in chemical engineering
TimothyTRiG
Teachers in Sweeden were convinced they treated both genders equally, until shown evidence from CCTV that they didn't.
TimothyTRiG
More likely to tell girls not to run, etc. It's subtle, and it's lots of little things rather than one big one, but it's real. And pervasive
shadowex3
Teachers in america are convinced they treat genders equally... then its proven they grade boys worse by default and discipline them harshly
seizeglory
Differing standards of gender is a double-edged sword. Everyone gets hurt, not just women.
shadowex3
Now tell feminists that.
seizeglory
They know that. Most feminists try to just vouch for equality for women under the assumption that it'll be enough but (1/2)
seizeglory
just trying to get more women into men's fields isn't enough either. We need to encourage it both ways. (2/2)
KalmiaKamui
To those saying this shit doesn't happen: it does. It absolutely does. My parents never discouraged me from becoming a scientist (1)
KalmiaKamui
but I grew up very aware that the career path I was choosing wasn't "for girls." Nothing overtly negative or discouraging (2)
KalmiaKamui
but it was there nonetheless. Subtle, but pervasive. (end)
Enthiasticdisinterest
Not to say the message of this isn't true, but I'm pretty sure you'd say all of these examples to boys too
rjman101
Or women have a smaller inferior-parietal lobule, which is basically in charge of math processes in the brain. Einstein had an enlarged IPL
pla303
No, but there's definitely a stereotype of "women can't do math and science" that's really discouraging
Jagger767
Again, the message is fine. Targeting parents of girls isn't wrong either. It's just something that could happen to either gender.
ReptilianOverlord
(1)The stats are also skewed. There are not a lot of women in engineering, but there are a lot of math/science majors other than engineering
ReptilianOverlord
(2) At my university, female students outnumber male students in the biology and pre-med programs, and mathematics is close to 50-50.
shadowex3
Women outnumber men everywhere except computer science and engineering, and computer science is about 10% of all degrees awarded.
DonaldTrumpsPubicCombover
I too understand the issue, they just didn't portray it correctly. Moms are like that with both genders. It's sort'v a mom thing, really.
Corona688
They exaggerated it to make it obvious but I don't think it's wrong. These biases do exist, even in mothers.
Kidiri
"Sammy sweetie, don't get your dress dirty."
theysaidtherewouldbecats
"Sammy don't use the glitter on your picture, here use crayons"
Baylin33
"I just bought you those pants and you tore them. You're grounded."
evillesbianfromthesnakehouse
well shit i'd rather have my children keep their clothes clean regardless of gender.
NCPBullet
Sam don't get your pants dirty.
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FaxCelestis
It's...exactly the same.
LikesCanadians
How? Nobody tells a guy to smile and look pretty, as though that's his best contribution.
DavidAmazing
I cant tell you how many times I was told not to do something science-y because its 'dangerous' and 'might burn down the house'
littleasianninja
But you're not a girl so clearly your parents were just being safe parents rather than sexist.
PunchTornado
I almost down-voted you, dangers of perfect sarcasm.
DavidAmazing
Sarcasm?
littleasianninja
Yep
DavidAmazing
oh thank god. My heart skipped a beat there. Dont mess with me when im tired and hungover. I just cant take it
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
My dad laughed when I said I wanted to be an archaeologist. Because I'd have to get my hands dirty. I work in IT. :(\
SailorVSays
I still want to be an archaeologist.
plainoldfool
Nice try, Nedry.
tarataqa
Your eMachine: IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
Actually, we have some really old computers on a shelf. One of them ate punch cards.
Acephalous
All that shit is great till you see what they pay.
TBKU
Server fans are dusty as shit, our hands get dirty too! Suck it dad! No wait.
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
OMG I cleaned our server room once. I went through an entire roll of paper towels. That shit was nasty.
Comet260
Why weren't the servers kept clean?
SihayaOfTheAllPowerfulMeh
Because I work with pigs
pookiesexbomb
I can see this being a path my daughter would want to take. She loves to dig, for worms mostly, but she's OBSESSED with dinosaurs!!
Anon4
Introduce her to paleontology, the study of fossils. I hope she gets to do whatever she wants! Still dreaming of archaeology too, in my 20s.
SailorVSays
Not to be the jerk, but that's actually paleontology.
pookiesexbomb
JERK!!! (As an avid fan of Friends I felt like I should've known this...)
PaintedSlate
Oh man, I wanted to be an archaeologist until I learned that what I actually wanted to be was a paleontologist. Ended up in social sciences.
discohaylie
I don't see why she can't be a girly girl AND love science. There are plenty of women who are equally feminine and smart.
PublicClassMiloImplementsPerson
Good point. Why should one exclude the other?
femgineer
As a female engineer who also enjoys looking my best, the "too" in the last line is a step in the right direction; well done Verizon.
SirCularity
I will never understand how posts like this and MRA horseshit both make the front page. I mean, I love this post, but I'm confused.
GaymerKyle
I remember my uncle said to my sisters to never let boys be mean - "kick 'em in the nuts and see how fast he calls you a bitch next time."
GaymerKyle
but then, this was on the rez and the boys were usually coke strong or too drunk lol
JMSinATL
That is brilliantly evil and wrong, but I love it.
NoImgurImgurian
relevance?.......
ThisCommentWasAutomaticallyGeneratedByImgurViralizer
Creating sociopaths, I see....
UnexpectedItemInBaggingArea
I have two boys and parents just don't let kids be themselves anymore. My toddler likes playing with dolls and in the mud. I let him do both
Renarde
My brother and I were raised the same. We both had dolls, my brother had his kitchen set and I always stole his legos.
ObviousCaptain
I've always thought it was a little weird when I saw boys playing with girls dolls and what not on here, 1/2
ObviousCaptain
But then one day my parents pulled out toy babies I used to play with when I was really little. 2/2
heterocera
My son loved dressing like a princess and play cooking when he was a toddler. I let him, no problem.
yarfyarf
True. I can't remember a time when my parents stopped me from mucking about and being a tomboy. Parents have to let their kids have freedom.
Jeskabell
After all, who's going to run the teenage mud wrestling in the future? ;)
falloutmonk
Anymore? You think fifty years ago the average father would tolerate his son playing with dolls?
blitherypoop
I was the same way. Dolls, teaparties, and house w girls. War, mud fights, and pirates w boys. My parents told me from the start that 1/2
blitherypoop
2/2 just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I have to only like girl stuff...or even like it at all.
Kaysmira
I remember a mom at the store acting shocked and upset that her daughter wanted a Batman coloring book, along with a Doc McStuffins book.
beckadoomsday
I bought my two year-old brother one of those play kitchens because he always plays with the ones in waiting areas. They want to explore.
NoWisdomWithoutRegret
If I had space, I would. I'm worried he's going to hurt himself one day because he tries to "cook" on/in my oven when it's off.
Flucksy
Parents these days!
gopms
Exactly. Let them be who they are. Most kids like a combination of things that are considered girly and boyish, who cares?
HoliBug
Mine likes baby blue color & gets much flak about it. 'You mean this blue?'& they bring all shades of dark blue. Boys MUST like dark colors?
itsbre
My friends little bro loves pink and purple, he plays with dolls and his fave Sesame Street character oils Abby, the flying fairy.
itsbre
But he also loves soccer, playing in mud, and Spider-Man.
Luvvie
My son likes fingernail polish, fairy wings, Spider Man, and How To train Your Dragon.
itsbre
The kid I babysit loves having his nails painted because he wants to be able to see his favourite colours all the time.
ashgreen2080
My boyfriend is 24 and still gets his nails painted when we get pedicures.
itsbre
With coloured polish or clear?
NoWisdomWithoutRegret
My boys like nail polish, too, but I think that's the messy factor. But it's part of how I taught them left and right. One color on each >>>
NoWisdomWithoutRegret
2) foot. Every time they put on shoes they had something to help them remember which foot was which.
Luvvie
I just let my son do my toenails and I'll do his, unless he insists on getting his fingers done.
umDustin
while i hugely sympathize, 90% of little boys want to be astronauts AND cowboys. most end up being neither.
YouCantLikeOwnAUsernameMan
Jokes on you, I became both!
UnfinishedUserna
I wanted to be Peter Pan : never grow up and always have fun. I grow up but still always try to have fun whatever i do !
UnfinishedUserna
I also wanted to be a ninja, but i'm too lazy to train, so i just continue to imagine it.
homeboymcjewerson
when i was a kid i wanted to be john lennon
votingisnexttogodliness
Look, this hat comes right off!
RenegadeLemonade
ahem, http://imgur.com/V4S52R4
nodend
Why aren't there more upvotes here? This is brilliant.
iDrinkDrano
He is the 1%
Broken27Arrow
Even fewer become both.
jRam90
Some people call me the space cowboy
littleasianninja
I wanted to be an X-men :(
Zrigney
I wanted to be Nightcrawler so bad...
blitherypoop
How many X-Men did you want to be?
littleasianninja
Gambit, Iceman, Cable, and Archangel (metal version)
LiterallyYourMom
Well, trans acceptance is more prevalent these days, so you can be an X-man if you want.
piggypiglet
Word.
Cravenmobile
I wanted to be a T-rex
AetherMcLoud
I always wanted to be a wizard.
LoveSays
I don't think that's the same as liking two school subjects...
evillesbianfromthesnakehouse
seriously. of course i liked math back then it was easy as shit. and Science seemed like it was entirely cool fizzy stuff, not labs.
krislee98
You don't hear little boys being told, "It's a girls job to be an astronaut and cowboys." You're correct but you're missing the context.
shadowex3
No, you just hear them being told every single thing about them is wrong and evil. That's why 90% of suicides are men, starting at age TEN.
Genini
To be fair girls can't physically be cowboys.
ilovededyoupiggy
They can have a little cowboy inside them, that's all that matters https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1380406499/793123.jpg
umDustin
approaching it more from a "they're told such things are beyond their scope" viewpoint than a "that's not for [sex]" one.
plainoldfool
While not quite as bad, boys (even grown men) are discouraged from entering the nursing field. Very few respected male nurses out there.
TastyBrainMeats
And that's exactly the same problem as this one. Sexism is bad for everyone.
theh8ed
Isn't that right, Focker?
SufferinSappho
Who are the 'respected' female nurses out there?
plainoldfool
Nurses in general have to deal with massive amounts of shit (source: my wife is an ER nurse). But males typically face comments such as (1)
plainoldfool
"aww, how cute", or "why? Why nursing", or "I'm not comfortable with you as my nurse". However, this is not as common in the ER. (2)
MassDebating
I've never heard "it's a boys job to be a scientist". I get what you're saying but no one puts it so harshly.
mariella
I have. My friend's neighbours were really surprised to find out that she would be studying chemistry in university: "But you're a girl?"
gopms
I have and I would bet most girls who like science have.
geab
Maybe 'cuz it's older, but I've been told multiple times in my career that women don't belong.
geab
eg. "You'll quit caring when you get married and have kids" "You're an exception. Women don't have the mind for this."
gopms
Also, I still hear all the time less harsh things like "your son is going to love this" when I buy a science toy for my daughter.
MassDebating
I only know of here, but girls are encouraged just as much (if not more so) than boys, in fact nearly all the science teachers are women
gopms
Yay for you (not sarcasm, I promise!) People are fine with her liking science but they assume she's a boy based on what I buy for her.
AndSoAdInfinitum
It's weird. The opposite stereotype exists in Ireland. Girls are better at math and shit in school, and boys (or morons) are meant to be>>
Corona688
Smart women here have been known to slowly give into the stereotype to smooth things over. Not all the pressure is from men, either.
AndSoAdInfinitum
Good at technical classes. Weird how shit differs place to place
Corona688
Technical as in what?
halfpint42
usually it's more subtle, but some people do say things along those lines. they don't always mean it to be harsh or demeaning, though.
Corona688
That's the worst kind of bias, the subconscious bias people do without noticing. That it's not meant to be demeaning doesn't mean its not.
halfpint42
I completely agree. but it's worth pointing out that people don't always realize what they're doing & what impact they're having.
krislee98
No but little girls are given the message, "Math is hard" & "Science is for boys" when classrooms involve privileging boys over girls.
theh8ed
In my math and science classes the girls almost always did better than the boys.
evillesbianfromthesnakehouse
to be fair math is hard. i wish someone had told me... i'm a girl and i see your point but Honors PreCalc/Calc was a mistake. big. mistake.
Corona688
To be fair, that's nothing to do with gender.
geab
No it ain't. Stick with it. Even if you major in art or history, it'll pay off to get through Calc now.
MassDebating
From my experience in school if anyone is privileged in a classroom it's girls.
SufferinSappho
And yet with your experience, the results produce male engineers overwhelmingly, so... maybe that's something to think about?
DodgeDuckDipDiveDodge
I like how you're being downvoted. Girls were the top in every math and science class I've ever taken.
Mickstack
I guess I was in the 10%. I wanted to be a cowboy ninja.
aryasnark
Read a study for a sociology class a while back that found that teachers actively discourage girls in math and science. Sad.
seriouslytired
I had a female science teacher that was a major bitch. she had 2 other girls in her class besides me and she was nasty to all of us.
callmeabitcrazy
Im interested to read this. Do you have a link?
aryasnark
I can't find it! I sold my textbook and I can't find it online with my sucky recollection of the title/authors. Post grad problems.
PaintedSlate
And it doesn't take a high percentage of teachers to do this to expose most people to this kind of influence.
robingal1
Me too!
SuchUsernameVeryImgurWow
You read that in a sociology class? That's funny, they never mentioned that in any of my math and science classes. -Man
aryasnark
Yeah, I tried bringing it up in my math and science classes but no one wanted to hear about it. -Woman.
aryasnark
Also, congrats on stalking me
beccaboob
In all of my education classes, the opposite is being taught. We are being told to make sure we don't encourage gender bias
aryasnark
Good! I think teachers did it mostly unconsciously so it's good that they're putting it out there to be aware of
ishouldbestyding
My father did this to me.I was raised as a lady,forced to change,to do things I never liked,and was forbidden everything I wanted.I lost
ishouldbestyding
4 years of my life trying to find myself,losing time for college and education,my health,sanity.Don't ever do this to your kids.Let them be.
99problemsbutsomepantsaintone
you is kind, you is smart, you is important
dogdogdogdogdog
oh god :'(
Goob64
The Help!!
JacksCompleteLackOfAUsername
I was about to upvote this but it's on 69 points and I just can't bring myself to do it.
HarryYourHandsAreFreezing
Samantha, remember not to read any posters.
sammy5585
sorry, i dont really anyways
3MTA3
It could be a Home Ec poster. But really...Women need to fill more traditionally manly roles.
Chickenlicker
Most women can't fill those roles, which was the point. They've been raised in a way that prevents the development of technical abilities.
TrexTime
Ummm okay? I like reading posters though...
UncleBuster
I laughed too hard at this
DRAMATICRUST
I don't understand.
captain5
Samantha, read the poster, become an engineering major, so I can ask you out.
TrexTime
Will biology count? I feel like I'm letting other Samanthas down )=
captain5
Yes it will. Im a biomedical engineer.
TrexTime
Oh I just want to cuddle with animals. And take pictures of them. Now I feel like a huge disappointment to Samanthas
TrexTime
I just want to cuddle with animals... And then take pictures of them. Then maybe save them (=
LurkMasterP
I wanted to be a dinosaur when I grew up. I was told that was impractical. Yet, happily, I'm slowly becoming one anyway.
purplepotatoes
good for you!
pantsaretheworst
You are my inspiration.
snowtree
http://imgur.com/LwPu0i5
denzelbossington
Props bro, it takes a lot of guts to admit you are a trannysaurus rex
ElekaNahmenNahmenAhTumAhTumElekaNahmen
I wanted to be the fattest woman on earth, and that kids would use me as a trampoline. Turns out it actually was impractical.. :(
TheRicM
I wanted to be a lion.
UH60Mechanic
My toenails are so long they click on the floor. I have achieved raptor status. Bonus, it somehow doesn't bother my boots.
TemporaryUzername
holy shit, i wanted to as well- low and behold, I'm an old bag of bones now!
MisterDerivative
Told kindergarten class I wanted to be a raptor when I grew up- they laughed at me then http://media.giphy.com/media/ozoOP54tX6jug/giphy.gif
timeywimeystarstuff
I always tell my mom I'll be digging up her fossils in the backyard one day.
Candymostdandy
How I picture you...http://img.joke.co.uk/images/products/jmw-v3/large/73551.png
LurkMasterP
If I had that I would wear it to work. I'm an adult, I can do that.
Candymostdandy
I wish there was a "Bring your dinosaur to work" day.
asbestohs
http://www.theonion.com/articles/5yearold-wants-to-be-a-tractor-when-she-grows-up,2481/
AntiDownVoteActivist
My nephew said "A boat"... Cats love him.
LurkMasterP
thep00ndestroyer
Never lose your t-Rex
BlobbyJr
You're living the dream. Are you becoming a t-rex? My favorite was always archaeopteryx :B
LurkMasterP
I wanted to be a triceratops!
bittenkitten813
DOWN WITH ORNITHISCHIANS! UP WITH SAURISCHIANS! (jk, be whatever kind of dino you want)
enchilado
Here's a short story you may like. http://www.flashfictiononline.com/f20090204-dinosaur-bruce-holland-rogers.html
LurkMasterP
You know, I liked that very much. Thank you.
Rheios
Extinct?
Rheios
Or a chicken?
LurkMasterP
RAWR, everyone. This turned out to be an amusing and capricious thread.
Luperion
As a wolf, follow your dreams, friend reptilian!
Zaranthan
Git offa mah lawn!
stevetehpirate
I wanted to be a firetruck. My teacher crushed those dreams... and laughed at me.
MeowRoar
Oeemmmgeee. Are you me?
triocon
You just have to open the door
yoooh
Reminds me of http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/1015368_o.gif
HughLaurie
My dad said, it's time to throw childish things aside, but he didn't really say that, he said "Stop being a fucking dinosaur and get a job"
shapalapa
why can't you have both? http://www.closedloopadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/Business-Dinosaur-Cropped.jpg
paynoattention
It's the fuckin' Catalina Wine Mixer.
HOHSISFoundationRepair
"POW!"
idontgetitwhatamisupposedtowritehere
I wanna make bank bro. I wanna drive a range rover.
Dutcher
Who says dinosaurs can't get a job. Seriously. EVERYBODY, DINOSAURS ARE PEOPLE TOO!
mishamigo
In preschool we were asked to go on stage during assembly one day and each shout out what we wanted to be. My turn, I announce I want to 1/2
mishamigo
be a whale. That was the day I learned that you can be whatever you want as long it's the same species. I am still embarrassed. 2/2
pangyre
I scrolled through the comments to see if anyone had already said this before I did.
Momof2needsabreak
Only time I tell my daughters to get out of the dirt or anything is when they have a special outfit on for pictures or a party.
officerjt
Save the clothes to put on them until you get to your destination! I don't mind kids getting dirty but my husband does, so I do their baths.
MySockHurts
Which I'm sure is what's going on in that second gif.
Eowyneb
Why!? Why do you want a normal serious picture!? Everyone has that it is so lame. Take a picture the way your family is not the way you want
Corona688
It's like wedding pictures. The wedding is for the cameras, not the groom and bride.
RisqueChilliScratch
Your username is very descriptive.
blitherypoop
Reminds me of my mom yelling after me to take off my tights before running into the woods.
pbbbtMeg
Those tights rip so easily. We go thru lots each year.
bittenkitten813
Haha, I got in trouble for wearing my ballet leotard into the ocean a few times
terbril
Well, of course. Swans live in lakes, not oceans.
UH60Mechanic
My mom got mad about my bodysuit for gymnastics until she realized I was pretending it was a wetsuit. Then it was awesome.
cavinggirlfightsninjasbuildsrobots
I tried to go hiking in my church shoes one time. Mom didn't stop me but I learned my lesson since those things had no traction >_<
pbbbtMeg
Samesies. Or if they can't get their shoes dirty/muddy. (When school is in, they only have one pair of school shoes)
Rookieragequit
If I tell them not to get dirt on their clothes, they accept the challenge. DIRT EVERYWHERE!
AsYouKnow
Special outfit for pictures or a party you say?
SamuraiFoxes
Which is, of course, when they want that dirt the most.
mosdefin
What's that mom? Jump in the mud pit in my brand new white dress? All right, if you say so.
Momof2needsabreak
Exactly, I just want 1 picture, then go tear it up, catch bugs, climb whatever.
ambermae513
Yep. That thinking was how I ended up with an oil covered white lace Easter dress when I was 3. Dad laughed, Mom turned red head to toe.
Corona688
Hah, how did that happen?
ambermae513
My dad was working on a car and I was nosy. He never heard me crawl under the car with him.
M00N3EAM
I want my girls clean for at least 10 minutes after a bath. Is that too much to ask?
Rookieragequit
As a fellow mother of girls: Yes.
M00N3EAM
lol I should have known. They immediately run outside as soon as they're clean. No white clothes and no dresses.
Rookieragequit
We have dresses. LOADS of them. We just make sure that they're machine washable! :D
M00N3EAM
i prefer jeans for outside play. less skinned knees that way. Of course while in house they're in tutus or whatever they dress themselves in
ResetButton
We're raising girls, darlin', not raising dresses.
ticoson88
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BearAttack
LOVE this.
ashgreen2080
I'm saving that. When I have children I'm going to put that in the nursery.
QueenMaria
My mother tried to force me to take engineering classes because she is one. I hated them. How about we just let everyone do what they want?
rjman101
Exactly. But some women won't rest until men and women are literally the exact same at everything.
Bassoonist
My dad really wanted me to be an engineer. I was encouraged to be one from day one, but I just never had any interest in it.
MySockHurts
I'm a male. I get told I'm handsome, and my parents told me not to get my clothes dirty, and local park rangers told me not to touch the (1)
RedroverRedrover
Ok, but that's totally different from being told that it's "for" the other gender. Women are discouraged from it because it's "for men". 1/2
RedroverRedrover
Also, being told you're handsome is very different from being constantly bombarded by messages that say that your appearance is THE most 2/3
RedroverRedrover
important thing about you. You're comparing apples and oranges. 3/3
MySockHurts
If that's the case, then the words spoken in the ad should have said "That's for boys only" or "That's not for girls" or other obviously (1)
MySockHurts
animals because they might be contaminated, and my parents would probably get angry if I started gluing shit to the ceiling, and, being (2)
MySockHurts
the younger sibling, my parents left the more dangerous work to my older brother. None of these made me think "Gee, I guess I don't like (3)
MySockHurts
science or math." This ad's reasoning is absolute bullshit it's hard to fathom it.
Corona688
People do give up. I've seen it happen. Not just parent pressure but peer pressure, too.
HypersonicHarpist
my sister is the same way, both of our parents are engineers, it wasn't easy for her but they eventually came around
Corona688
That's kind of the point, having the choice.
captainhowel
Right, which we do by not pushing them towards something.
warick
I don't want to discourage anyone that wants to be an engineer. But we do need a lot more women that want to step up and m=be mothers.
Corona688
That's kind of circular.
warick
Motherhood doesn't necessarily preclude seeking a degree.
Corona688
How would that help? It'd be one more child and mother, unless you're urging adoption instead.
warick
I'm not sure I get what you're saying. One more than what?
WhatzitTooya
I liked 4th grade math. Cant say the same thing about calculus...
Acephalous
Are you saying that multiplication tables aren't the same as tensor calculus? STOP LIMITING OUR CHILDREN!
PaintedSlate
I'd actually like to see the distribution of responses to that question for each gender throughout schooling.
evillesbianfromthesnakehouse
yeah that first image bothers me a bit. in fourth grade i liked the idea of science, not the meticulous reality.
Zodi
That's a big reason why the first image is bs, in 4th grade you're doing the simplest math and science is just experiments in class.
theysaidtherewouldbecats
Calculus is a puzzle that you really want to see the bigger picture on, but you just end up slamming pieces together to just finish it.
TrexTime
I wanted to be an ambassador to England in 4th grade. Awkward I ended up in Biology.
JimmyLive
Shhh, you're ruining everyone's chance to talk about how progressively thinking that they are!
Corona688
Meh. It's important they have the choice. Forcing them all to be engineers would be just as silly.
apparentlyiminsane
Can confirm. I was corralled into doing Mechanical Engineering, I hate it and am quitting. I wanted to study history...
FaxCelestis
Why is it bad to call your daughter your "pretty girl" but okay to call your son your "handsome boy"? I mean, that's practically the same.
BearAttack
Honestly, I can't remember much of what my parents told me about myself, but I do remember them constantly saying they were proud of me.
BearAttack
So, it never really mattered what I was - I knew they were proud of me no matter what, and that was enough.
Chickenlicker
It's because that's all girls are ever told. Boys are told they're smart, tough, they can figure it out. Girls don't get that, which is sad
MySockHurts
Really? All I've ever heard is the "girls are smart, boys are dumb"/"girls rule, boys drool" kind of thinking.
Corona688
It's the difference between the promotional poster and how the teacher actually treats you as a person.
caralily
Goodness knows. I was always called smart and never pretty and ended up an engineer, sure, but those teen years were real tough. I've (1/2)
caralily
been bitched out by parents, too, over calling their daughter pretty. There needs to be a mix or self-confidence gets all screwy. (2/2)
gummysharkies
Exactly! Encouraging a child in ALL areas of their lives is important for healthy self image. At work (daycare) I (1/2)
gummysharkies
remind the girls that they're beautiful as well as intelligent. Same for boys. I love seeing their smiles when they hear me say it.
elodinisadork
It's what's meant by it. "pretty" often goes together with "dainty, delicate, flowery, nice", while handsome goes with "strong, tough, etc"
FaxCelestis
I just have a hard time not telling my kids they're good looking, because they /are/.
ILikeTheFunnyNamesOnImgur
Do all the compliments! My daughters are smart and strong and pretty. And I let them know it. I just worry it'll go to their heads.
elodinisadork
That's great! It'll give them a big confidence boost. I was more talking about my environment and what handsome vs pretty means there.
heterocera
I feel the same way. I try really hard not to.
FaxCelestis
Well, I also tell them they're smart and they're funny all the time too. My little girl is a comedian. She's 3, so she's not very good, tho.
KingSchultz1
Because there are so many girls who would love to be told 'You look really strong and tough'.
auudreyyyy
Can't really tell if you're being sarcastic- but yes. Girls would love to be called strong, and they'd benefit from it.
theysaidtherewouldbecats
Well women have distorted the word "strong" to mean emotionally strong, which sounds just as flowery. And calling them tough offends most
KingSchultz1
I'm sorry I'm not sure if you understand. How many girls have you met that would like to be told 'you look strong'?
Corona688
Flip it around -- why *shouldn't* they like it? Did they feel this way from birth or learn it? Also, "pretty" isn't always a compliment.
auudreyyyy
Myself and all of my female friends, for starters. I'm Swedish though, and we're pretty far along when it comes to feminism and equality.