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HonestCommentFarmer
Love the controller use. Malcom over there is treating it like it's the first vagina he's seen while Reese is holding it wrong.
BuildShitGetBitches
Now I have They Might Be Giants stuck in my head
klikklik1236
"CNN has done to our parents what they told us violent video games and rap music would do to us." - Some Dude on Twitter
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
you spend all this time on a gif and 'your welcome' is all i remember
BruteHoleForce
grundig79
...where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees
Tinomony
You're
mds308
You're not the boss of me now...
Fistouille
Its3amAndImFeelingSaucy
shinyRK9
Life is unfaaaasiiirr...
pyrrhlis
Hell I’d murder the bitch that just strolls up and turns off my session.
Zeldadog
Yes no, maybe, I don't know, can you repeat the QUESTION!
GayPepeFrog666
YOUR welcome. -_-
JustACloud
You're*
darthbiscuit
Y’know what makes me violent? The fact that Malcolm is holding the N64 controller correctly and Reese is not.
Midgarmerc
Video games being played on TV make me violent. They're both holding the controllers differently, Malcolm keeps smashing buttons after death
theMostUsernameOfAll
not if its coop
Bethem909
Pills here.
Zaranthan
OMG, WTF are you doing? We need to go this way!
theMostUsernameOfAll
FU ur not ma mom! AAAAAHHH
Andalite
It's almost like having an outlet for things allows people to not express violent feelings against each other
LoganFine
atacobyanyothernameisaburrito
Upped for TMBG
LetsGetThisOverWith
I would too but none of their versions are used in that scene, only the boring original version.
Bunsen
Their theme song plays every damn time. They can let the original guy have this one.
atacobyanyothernameisaburrito
Yes but the johns don't like that song
FrankGorshen
You’re*
AndanteXVII
Often, I think of all the wars and violence before the advent of video games, and wonder how people explain THAT expanse of human garbage.
callmethelizardqueen
It was all Elvis' hips.
eadanke
The list of scapegoat behaviors is long, but alcohol use, pool halls, gambling and everything else guys do for fun make most of the list.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
For real. My counter argument is that the Spanish Inquisition and Crusades are proof that the Bible encourages violent behavior also.
SullenMoon
Actually, John + John eventually learned the truth: The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.
Arcanum3000
That's not nearly as catchy to sing, though.
SullenMoon
I first heard it at a concert, but here's a video anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA
SullenMoon
Here's the video, you decide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA
EmporerDragon
I can't help but notice how one is using the controller with a Center/Right grip while the other is using a Left/Right.
zebil
First thing I noticed
iamthemachine
Malcolm played the game irl. Reese has not. lol but i guess it depends which game theyre playing..but Reese is a heathen!
narcolapser
Yea, the one with the center grip is right. AND ANYONE WHO THINKS OTHER WISE PLAYED THE CRAP GAMES. O__O
Kronzor
Sounds like they're playing a fighting game though. D-pad is not too bad for those.
hetnkik999
Yead, d-pad was needed for Mortal Kombat 4 on N64.
DinkyDamn
Big handed guy here. Screw you!
thlaylirah
Jesus Christ it's you're welcome.
Murrdogg
my what?
kkanne20
thank you. hurts my eyes to read the captions in the gif
ScientistHere
FrogDelay
Calm down its fine. Your overreacting.
EveryoneGetsAFreeCat2
shiftingillusion
*sobs grammatically*
FrankLake
CotterPyke
i wish they'd repeat this show on some channel, i'd watch em all, just to see Walter white and lois again...DRAT
MuyMachoGato
YO-HO, IT'S HOT, THE SUN IS NOT A PLACE WHERE WE COULD LIVE!
wolfebane42
But here on earth there'd be no life without the light it giiiiiiiiiiives
ChimeraOfFury
We need its heat, we need its light, we need its energyyyyyy
Bunsen
Without the Sun, without a doubt, there'd be no you and meeeee.
actualseal
Ya'll da real MVP's <3
aworkoffiction
Devils advocate: or do video games foster violent thoughts and provide a false sense of gratification without consequence causing a need/1
HonestCommentFarmer
Violence saturation across all of our media does have an effect on how we approach the world. But to say it makes us violent is too simple.
ANUS2K14
The issue isn't the violence but people developing improper coping mechanisms, it's easy to scream and rage at a game with no one to 1/2
ANUS2K14
correct your improper behavior, so unfortunately, videogames, typically online ones can be really bad for kids' anger management. 2/2
ANUS2K14
Hence the need to immediately correct your child's behavior if he's raging at a game.
callmethelizardqueen
No. The thrill isn't actually from the violence in the game its from completing the task in the game. Someone doesn't turn off Madden &
callmethelizardqueen
have to run outside and throw a ball. Video games do not tap into reality in our brains, now VR games could change that, but ATM playing
callmethelizardqueen
on a screen does not cause the brain to enjoy the activity shown.
aworkoffiction
To continuously receive dopamine through violence. And once the video game is turned off the source changes to the nearest person.
TheyCallMeMrPigeonCuzImJustSoCoo
No.
PresidentProTempore
As a long time gamer whose friends are mostly gamers, no. Going on a rampage in GTA gives very little desire to do it in real life, 1/2
PresidentProTempore
Though I do think some people who already had violent tendencies could be very into video games. 2/2
whatsisname
Hypothesis has been tested and shown to be false.
Anonwuzhere
More people are exposed to games, movies and porn today, yet violent crime has been going down
aworkoffiction
Its a fair point and i was trying to get more replies like this. on the other hand children in my family are lashing out at anyone nearby/1
aworkoffiction
Once the game is shut off. and they get increasingly more agitated when you mention anything about the negative behavior associated with it.
Vevrain
Could it be addictive behavior?
Anonwuzhere
That seems more like a problem with discipline. I notice that parents nowadays are much less involved with their children’s lives
Anonwuzhere
And they use YouTube and video games as a babysitter.
Steamarrow
Maybe they're just violent people, and the games are just something they like? I don't know, but I think this has outside factors.
aworkoffiction
Absolutely it does. there is very little that can be deciphered from a global view point that can be applied at the individual level.
MustardTiger1337
DoublevBomb
Some say he's still pumped about it to this day. He does. Because he still is and is proud of being this meme.
ObliqueRay
While you were wasting your money on consoles I studied the PC.
Ploonet
palest1na
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKEL4cUTOI4
The701
@SexPenguinPopeCuntFuckXIVVaginaFuckYou @LoonyChild
zmonkey333
Solid username
atnair
so many happy memories of playing super mario 64 under a warm blanket in the winter
slack3r9
He never said "Thank you"
hobosliveinboxs
THANK YOU SANTA
C137MrMeeseeksLookAtMe
I too went through this ridiculously happy moment, and what game? Zelda Ocarina of Time. Needless to say... great memories
freiman
Ocarina of time and for some reason Mario tennis.still play Mario tennis to this day
typeets
Loved Ocarina. Loved the last good wrestling game, WWF No Mercy. Loved Perfect Dark. Twas a simpler time
Kronzor
WCW vs. NWO was the superior wrestling game in my opinion. Also Goldeneye over PD. Some great times were had with that system and 3 friends!
typeets
In my opinion, WCW vs NWO is a VERY close second. Same with Goldeneye!
Zephyr86
*sigh* Perfect Dark. Have you tried replaying it? It did not age too well....
Ryebread91
Was no mercy the n64 one where you could go too all different areas and just be covered in blood?
typeets
Yes it was!
Ryebread91
I think that was the best wrestling game I ever played even compared to 360.
breakin247365
Neglectful/abusive parenting is a major factor in violent children.
smashasaurus
And murderers
tammyfromthelibrary
Good thing you need to do a background check before bring a human into the world.
Dionysus187
Parents are voters and consumers, thus they are rarely blamed for anything to do with their children.
catapulter
i wonder how much of this is just genetic predisposition.
ensensu
It's almost like parents should have licenses to have kids and should apply for a permit for familial expansion when they want more.
NothingButGoodVibes
I think banning guns would make children less violent /sarcasm
raspyberry
Did you know that guns cause gun violence?
Lambdafish1
I think we should have more guns around kids, especially in schools /s
Shigbeard
Can confirm. Backstory: I only recognize my father's voice when he screams abuse. 4 years ago my father blamed me for my brothers behaviour
Shigbeard
I step out of their lives for 3 years, come back and turns out my brother has only gotten worse, perfectly emulating my father. Shocking...
OtherErinFromTheOffice
Thanks for the serious comment in an otherwise lighthearted post. #imgur
kcgoalie31
wggur
that's an awful gif and it should not be used
Cernunnos94
TKBarbus
That fukin hand
HellaMozzarella
Yeah but Hal and Lois were the freakin best
Kodaxmax
They were designed to be comically terrible at everything, you must think homer simpson is father of the year.
macdaddy961
I mean, Homer is a pretty great dad
Kodaxmax
alcoholic, violent, neglectful and envious are not good things..
CassandraCat
I mean they tried, but the best...
Alavar
They really weren't.
Tak231
They did the best they could with what they had, but yea... they weren't very good parents. Stress led to Lois unintentionally being-
carrot1sie
They should have stopped having kids after the 2nd or 3rd. When you don't have the money or time for all of your children it's time to stop
Tak231
Exactly. But its not like they were actively trying after Reese.
Tak231
psychologically abusive. Hal worked a LOT and pretty much every episode where he had the day off it was him trying to NOT have anything to-
Tak231
do with his family. Francis and Malcolm both drew attention to how psychologically abusive their mother was multiple times.
Camoose
Shit parents never take responsibility for being shit parents.
Noob3rts
It's not just parenting. It's life experiences too.
theraininspainfallsmainlyontheplain
Life experiences like beatings.
Noob3rts
..with jumper cables.
margaretolson
...dad?
Noob3rts
Silence, don't make me get those cables again boy.
breakin247365
Yeah, falling in with a bad crowd damages young people as well
ImAfraidYoureAllPsychosSoIMadeThisAccount
What's interesting is when the only people who are decent to you are the ones in the 'bad crowd'. Hated going to school. Constant bullying.
breakin247365
I was bullied too. It sucks. I was friends with some of the “bad kids” too. They knew i had it rough too
ImAfraidYoureAllPsychosSoIMadeThisAccount
Yup, and now, I have a teenage daughter of my own, who is getting straight A's, and so far the bullying hasn't been so bad. Fingers crossed.
DahPrincess
My little brother was 5th in a single parent household. He regularly bite kids at daycare till he drew blood. Like an insecure dog with >
MyPseudoIsAlduinSkyrimStoleItFromMe
Normal behavior which gives daycare people lots of headache.
callmethelizardqueen
What??! 2 kids= neither bit beyond 6 mths old.
DahPrincess
I've never met other babies who bite that much. Once or twice but not daily or every other day
DahPrincess
-nervous leadership. He never bite family, just the kids he saw at day care daily. Mostly this one baby girl around his age. I love my fam
Gingeringeri
My cousin used to bite me everytime she got mad. She had no boundaries at home.
breakin247365
Biting kids gets peoples attention...even if it’s bad it makes people notice him...
DahPrincess
That actually would explain why his main victim was the daughter of the owner.
kittykat25909
that's..uhm.. well thats not okay. maybe like.. fix that before he gets shot for being a zombie?
DahPrincess
That was years ago. He out grew it around 2, he's 8now and is pretty normal
ObliqueRay
duhisitnotobvious
Why doesn't this have more points?
SoapyWandKenobi
This is one I really hope it's true
Piloerection69
Me too
SirBumpaous
Violent video games reduce violence because it’s an outlet. Instead of taking anger out on people, take your anger out on a video game. ????
SirBumpaous
Lol! Question marks for emoji. xD
mechanicalchaos
i honestly always took this as an example of the boys being occupied/entertained versus bored/under stimulated.
NeynasGhost
My mom once asked my brother if violent games made him want to be violent. He said they made want to sit on his butt playing games more.
GuciGucci
And GTA hookers.
Snooj
I'd argue that for the vast majority of us it has no effect. I doubt I'd have killed someone by this point if my life without them.
Kodaxmax
its not that simple at all. we barely even understand emotions, mental dissabilties and such atm. an animals brain is super complex
dumbinsults
I actually wondered the same thing about child porn, but I'm to afraid of what happens to my search history if I look for studies.
IJustLikeToArgue
But what about when I keep losing because I got the bad controller? Happens to me every time.
rgzdev
Then it's justified killing.
StringVariable
I thought competitive games make people more aggressive regardless of the violence contents of those games.
Noremakm
http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-45445-001
nightdweIIer
My psychology course AND textbook say the exact same thing. Thank you for sharing this, another external proof never hurts!
PreciousPotato
That's why metalheads are often big cuddlebears.
SirBumpaous
Holy shit, I started an image thread. Lol!
Arcturis
And controllers/keyboards
smellsmiketeenspirit
!!!!
Keairan
While there is a correlation between less murders and video games, the thought is that it's because people leave the house less.
DichotomusPrime
The theory of catharsis (the release of anger as tension) as reducing violent tendencies has actually been disproven.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
That's far from conclusive. http://www.christopherjferguson.com/hitman.pdf found that violent games reduce hostile feelings & depression.
ragekritz
It's pretty much actually going to raise aggression if you're that kind of person but it's not going to cause you to be violent
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Aggression remains unchanged, but players become less hostile & depressed according to http://www.christopherjferguson.com/hitman.pdf
ragekritz
I meant temporarily raised aggression. I know this cause It happens when people are losing just like losing a sporting event.
DichotomusPrime
I love video games and think that they "make kids violent" is silly, but this particular argument doesn't hold water.
samsonguy920
I put water on the mentioned comment and can confirm, it didn't hold water. Anybody got a sponge?
ArbitUH
Yes, but "common sense" tells me otherwise, and I refuse to study the evidence-based theories. [so goes every political discussion]
Mahanos
Thank you for clarifying that. That's one of the most pervasive psychological myths, I hear.
Sparrrow5102
I love the VSauce video on it
itstara333
Sauce
Rin007
Bobo doll experiment was also helpful in disproving this, if I remember correctly. Psychology.
DichotomusPrime
journals.sage pub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167202289002
DichotomusPrime
Just one study, but numerous have reached similar cconclusions
quietwalker
Came here to say that.
Vaanhalen
They do the study bassackwards. All theyve done is prove the priming effect. And priming always wears off.
GeekyWhiteBoy
but catharsis isn't just release of anger, it's any deep emotion that something (usually an art) brings out of a person, releases good chems
brassknucklenerd
He's talking about catharsis theory, which is its own specific thing (was popular in the 70's I think, as a potential basis for solving >>
brassknucklenerd
<< issues from inappropriate sexual urges to violent tendencies. Didn't pan out.
Noremakm
No he is actually right, all of the research shows that catharsis doesnt reduce violent tendencies
Vaanhalen
Yes thats the official position but read the methodology on the experiments. Always lazy. They're just proving a short term priming effect.
GeekyWhiteBoy
I didn't disagree with his statement, merely expanded his definition of catharsis. my apologies sir
PaintedSlate
Yeah. In fact, acting out of anger reinforces anger, which isn't usually what is done in video games anyway. Where people get confused is
PaintedSlate
that silently seething or imagining what you'd say to them both count as acting out of anger. Bottling up is active, not passive.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
That's not what is typically done in v. games. V. games are environments that offer a player a high degree of control, which reduces stress.
PaintedSlate
That's exactly one kind of potential environment created in video games, yes. But I was also saying violence-catharsis is irrelevant anyway.
PaintedSlate
Video games (now mostly VR) are used in modern therapies, and that control aspect is important there.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
All video games allow the player to succeed in a world that is much simpler & more predictable than the real world. And there is evidence...
rgzdev
Even if catharsis is ineffective (in the long run) violence in media simply doesn'
DichotomusPrime
I dunno who you're arguing with because I never championed that argument. But you like you're on a roll, so you do you, champ.
rgzdev
Change the propensity to violence of consumers.
GetAssista
When I play online I get the impression that everybody else is taking anger out on my mom, not the game
dauberjagermonster
You mom gay
Zaranthan
That's all for show. We've already fucked your mom, now it's game time.
FirstWorldAnarchist
Hate to break it to you, fam, that ain't steam she's blowing off.
eadanke
Did you just name my penis "Anger"? Herbert Winkleton likes the nick name, but I won't stand for it.
Srektom1
.
SalsaCat
Or if you play overwatch then it's the symetra main.
meatcave
To be fair, fuck the Symmetra main
RedPandasandDepression
Symmetra* sorry/not sorry.
SalsaCat
Found the symmetra main. >:(
RedPandasandDepression
Windowlicker actually :)
Freakingdoomguy
I play Mercy, the price of helping your team is you paint a Target on yourself, but Damm is it satisfying
whatspaulplayingtoday
When you get that sneaky res up on your tank while the rest of your team is fighting for your life. It's incredibly satisfying.
sgtcoffman
*All Genji mains heard in unison* I NEED HEALING
LaughingLlamas
we appreciate you
ImproperHomosexualBehavior
I always do my best on trying to protect the healers, except for Moira. She can protect the whole team and get her damn POTG single handed.
Freakingdoomguy
Yet then I try to play her I can't do Jack shit
nightdweIIer
Psychologist here: your thinking is technically correct but there's been experiments about this. Long story short, video games do not ->
Vaanhalen
Heres my deal. The methodologies arent great. The "omg violent videogame" research usually just proves the priming effect. If they explored
Vaanhalen
Videogames as a deescalation device, I think they'd find something efficacious
nightdweIIer
I noticed this answer only now. They tried and found absolutely nothing, sorry to tell you.
midgetsaw
mind making an imgur post covering the main theories & experiments?
nightdweIIer
I actually tought of making a post about this so i think i may actually do it. I sure hope Imgur does not mind that the textbook i will ->
nightdweIIer
be using for reference and proof is written in italian. I'll tag you and everybody who is interested when/if i will create the post.
ksparbtacus
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MyHouseOnMars
I am interested!
LoquaciousDude
Please tag me too :D
lissara
Very cool. I want in on the knowledge sharing.
mechanicalchaos
Tag me, I love solid psychology stuff.
nightdweIIer
lower your "violence level" but do not increase it either. The two things are totally unrelated. Feel free to ask more if you want.
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nightdweIIer
Desensibilization (not sure about the proper word in english) does not fully apply to this because of a simple reason: everyone is ->
nightdweIIer
nowadays desensibilized because of many factors: media, movies, comics, books, videogames, you name it. VG help, but even people who ->
kofjfsfsf
It's almost like humand are able to differentiate between fiction and reality :O
nightdweIIer
Incredible, isn't it? It does not work with movies and thing you see tho. VG is the exception, not the rule.
BaronessCephia
Is there any overall psychological benefit or consequence to playing violent video games either socially or intellectually?
nightdweIIer
This is a bit tricky to answer since it's not really my area of expertise. Overall i would say a mixture of yes and no ->
nightdweIIer
Video games can help you achieve lower reaction times and allow you to keep track of more things at once (multitasking not fully included)->
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
I feel that making a conscious acknowledgement "violence is bad" and "games are just fantasy" and "beware the happy chemicals my brain is...
BarryInTheStreetsOliverInTheSheets
releasing; face to face human interaction is better in the long run than video games" is a good way to enjoy games but not get addicted
nightdweIIer
That's pretty much correct, smart thinking. We were talking about violence but adding this will not harm anyone, +1
ThatTransformersDude
Very true, but right now I'm going to play killer instinct, GTA5, and Sonic Mania and imagine everyone is my idiotic co-worker
nightdweIIer
Smack those bitches to the ground with the added knowledge that it will not make you more aggressive. Won't calm you down either tho: ->
nightdweIIer
discharging anger does not work, it actually makes you become a tad bit more aggressive in the near future but as long as you see the ->
ThisGuyHere
If a person played violent games constantly and thought themselves "good at it" would this give them confidence to act on violent thoughts?
nightdweIIer
Not outside video games, but there's an important thing in this: If that person is choosing specifically violent games over and over ->
nightdweIIer
chances are that this person may be violent outside too. This is direct causation: (s)he plays violent games because (s)he is violent ->
Muffyns
But what about dark souls?
Crystos
... I play Dark Souls to Relax.
nightdweIIer
I play bullet hell games on max difficulty to relax. Everyone else gets extremely frustrated when they play so it depends on you ^^
Avatar720
Dark Souls is not a video game, it is a way of life.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Psychologists probably aren't accounting for violence against controllers/keyboards/mice/monitors.
nightdweIIer
It's frustration, not violence. Social psychologists focused more on aggression than violence in particular tbh.
nightdweIIer
That stimulates your git gud level, not the violence level.
Rcb58
Even when you throw your keyboard or controller at the wall?
Greyfox1623
Playing COD and doing gun challenges, taught me to "git gud" using any weapon but also a life lesson about progression/versatility.
Haidere1988
I so hope that's a technical term in a few years
pyrrhlis
Completely different stats
Sapotaattori
this.