Japanese joinery

Oct 24, 2016 1:39 AM

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvDbuOvpWE

Well every engineeer learns basic carpentary still this thing is nuts compared to the course

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First: soak in wood

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Your gif timing is all over the place...

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

There's a village called Ai no Kura with thatched rooves and beautiful woodwork, not a single nail keeping it together

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Life's a joinery, not a destination.

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Punderrated comment of the day!

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This is one of those rare cases where I would have preferred individual gifs

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I debated doing that.

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My kitchen extension in Japan was built like this, amazing to watch the carpenters in action. Upvote for craftsmanship.

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Can't stop binging it.

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Designers....

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#1 wouldn't those pieces smash into the sunk part below? they are shown sliding down into the slit, and then inside/below the main shaft, ?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This post is snug.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

A nightmare for woodwork class

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

n̶a̶i̶l̶e̶d̶ joined it!

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I felt so dirty watching these gifs.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

#2 is proof this is japans work. Always with the penises

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Joinery Porn

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Watch or read, watch or read...aghhh

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

Read, then watch

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

A couple of these must be depicted incorrectly ... as shown, they are impossible.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The joins work, but the order of the animation is definitely wrong. At least two would have parts magically passing through other objects.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He shall *join* together the 4 nations in peace.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ironically, there was no "wood" nation/tribe/whatever. Only the 4 classic elements + blood + lightning.

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there's a blood nation? the fuck? Avatar got hardcore.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sorry, I wrote that wrong. There was no wood or lightning *nation*, but some individual mages or small schools.

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But yeh, it makes sense with no wood nation. Since the other nations are the metaphorical wood to be joined together by the one joiner

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OK got you, wood is the UN of elements. Who wood have thought that.

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It'a called mortise-tenon joinery. And it was actually originated from China before it got to Japan. --wikipedia

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

This gives me wood.

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Wood here, can confirm

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Mqybe you should dock with someone in the post's honor

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

log soaked wood?

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

3D printer, boom done

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Soak me daddy

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SOAK LOGS IN WOOD

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I don't have any logs, butttt...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

soaks logs in liquid wood?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Are you trying to get upvotes from puns? I'll join you for that.

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I'm confused as to what this can be applied to.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wood.

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On a more serious note though they built houses and boats with these joints. They last forever.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wow, that's pretty cool! I guess they replace the need for nails?

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Correct, you wouldn't need nails or screws. The other practical benefit of that is that you don't have to worry about rust or stripped holes

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Dang, going to keep this one in mind. Thanks.

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I wanna see the machines that cut all these angles

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

This needs sexy music in the background.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Honestly my brain just started playing the Stranger Things soundtrack to this and it fit pretty well.

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Same

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Same

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Same

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Same

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Different

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Same

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Somewhere out there an IKEA designer is having a happy accident in the trousers.

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Screws/bolts/nails/glue work better and are generally faster and simpler to construct with machinery.

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"Pantccident"

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This is underated

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A lot of these seem unnecessarily complicated.

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Most of them are completely impractical IRL. Even traditional Japanese woodworkers wouldn't use most of these methods.

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It's pretty natural that woodworking was an important craft, and when you advance enough, some people turn it into art.

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japan relied on these techniques during its development due to the lack of iron in the country to make nails

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also because these joinery techniques have more give to them than nails, it makes them an early form of earthquake proofing.

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Yet somehow they NAILED IT!

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limitations foster creativity #paradoxofchoice

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Or its easy to disassemble,like ikea from east.

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Why can't I use this technique then, in Civ? I don't wanna trade 30g a turn for iron!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think I heard this also had a nickname of "dove taling"

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Nah, they had iron bro. But nails were incredibly expensive in most places until the industrial revolution.

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But why male models?

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Are you serious? I just...

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China and Korea used these techniques as well. They didn't lack iron though, it was just the way to build their structures.

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not just japan. Scandinavian countries have long traditions of building without the use of nails or screws. Just using sturdy wood joints1/2

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There are old ass cool looking norwegian churches that were built with no use of nails or screws at all either. 2/2

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Joints in woodwork are held together with glue. The nails just give a more immediate join so the glue can dry.

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In cabinetry, sure, but not when you're building the wood frame of a structure.

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Hate it when I don't have any iron near my capital

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Go for the cultural victory then.

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(Laughs as Russia)

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Well, I think they nailed it.

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Ugh, no they didn't. Didn't you read the post?

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*woosh*

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Ironically, you may have missed the joke.

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also why basically, the only metal things in their warfare until contact with the "western world" were the swords.

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Maybe they importing iron from china and korea,then make it with into sword.

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Well they could simply import nail from china too but maybe if you use wood its easy to disassemble.

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Holy shit I never thought of it like that

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Also why despite common belief Samurai were actually bow experts more so than sword experts

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Well, there were bows, spears and swords.

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And eventually Aquabussiers

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*Arquebusiers, aqua means water, an arquebus is the precursor to the musket.

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Maybe he means water guns?

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There needs to be a Super Soaker by this name.

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There needs to be a Super Soaker by this name.

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There is also a common belief that Samurai were honorable, and Ninja were dishonorable. Spoiler: It was the other way around.

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Don't know a lot of the actual history, but wouldn't that depend on the particular definition of "honorable"?

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see Extra History's Sengoku Jidai series

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Ninjas fought oppressive lords or worked for hire. One version is honorable. Samurai had military codes of honor. Very subjective.

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Samurai worked for whoever could pay them the most, betrayals weren't uncommon. Ninja for the most part protected their lords honor bound.

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And the armour. Because they had metal armour too.

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"Full Plate" armor was really rare, at best you had a plate cuirass. Most of the armor was lamellor, series of small plates tied together.

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Not every warrior had a big late-era daimyo-style museum piece. Gotcha. But head, chest, shoulder, & thigh armour were present, and iron.

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Yes, the Lamellar style used was very good because it served to prevent the metal, if it used that, from rusting by resin layers covering it

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I don't believe most of their armor was made of metal.

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That is an interesting belief. It isn't really supportable, at least by Sengoku Jidai. The ashigaru "commoners" might have used leather, 1/2

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2/2 but the samurai used metal. There was iron and there was trade with the mainland for more. Iron was low grade, it wasn't "the new gold."

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And the reason they spent so long making a complicated blade is because they had really crappy iron to work with.

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While their iron did come from sand, didn't they refine it to a high purity?

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You could snap a diamond rod with your bare hands.

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Purity doesn't explicitly mean sturdiness. High purity iron is hard, not tough. Hardness and toughness have a bell curve relation really.

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Sure. Just didn't think that the iron was as crappy assnuggler suggested

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they spent so long to turn that crappy iron into less crappy iron japanese swords are not made of shit metal beacuse they de shitted it

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they did the best they could but the steel was still much weaker than European swords of the time

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might have been a little bit but not by much they did some really good work in de shitting the metal to get some good shit

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Whereas Europeans simply hammered the nearest rock into a better quality sword.

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I mean, for cutting apart a peasant I'd rather have a Japanese sword. European swords were more like metal clubs because of plate armor.

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Common misconception! Swords were not commonly brought against plate armor, but rather maces, picks, and hammers. European swords were 1/2

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The tolerance between joints also allow structures to handle earthquakes effectively unlike metal beams, which would bend and collapse.

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Wow! So they're making all their skyscrapers out of wood with these joints and not metal beams? That's amazing!

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Most buildings in japan are earthquake-proof but im not an engineer and i don't know how they do this

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https://imgur.com/ODoQpnS giant pendulum to counter the swaying from earthquakes

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That doesn't look like it's made of wood. Are these joints used in steel also?

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And if they ever did fall apart it was easy to replace or rebuild

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It is even a tradition to take down the Ise Jingu shrine every 20 years and rebuild it.

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Just metal nails would be far weaker in case of an earthquake compared to these joints.

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But can they resist jet fuel ha!? I know for a fact that steel beams do. (Very interesting btw)

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LIES!

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So that's why that fucking arch thing survived an atomic bomb

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The downside being that Japanese cities were EXTREMELY susceptible to fire.

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And nukes

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See my comment to @notleftshark

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And atoms be ripped apart, that one's a real doozy.

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The firebombing of Tokyo caused more destruction than either of the atomic bombs.

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Even before the industrial revolution, the capital burned twice. Street vendors weren't allowed to use fire and sushi became popular.

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No shit. Sauce for curiosity?

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Oooh naisaaa

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_sushi The early history section writes about an earthquake of the Edo period, but doesnt go (1)

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That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about Japanese-wood-bringer-togethery to dispute it.

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Think of it like this: wood is flexible like jello. Iron is rigid like a house of cards. Which one collapses when you shake the table? :P

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(1) The key difference is that the cards are not joined together, while the jello is -- sort of. Use some glue, and the cards survive, too.

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(2) Also, the cards have quite low inertia, which helps, too if you join them well. Wood is lighter than metal/concrete, so low inertia too.

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It was an exaggerated metaphor to describe the difference in flexibility in building materials, I do hope you didn't think I meant the /1

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metaphor in a literal way. It's just a description to help people wrap their heads around that difference, nothing more. :) /2

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I got a b in wood shop in high school

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I broke my arm and couldn't do the work so my teacher did mine while I watched, he forgot he did the work and graded me. Gave me a B for it.

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Watched a girl pass out in wood shop she was on drugs and it was my first week at a new school...I knew nobody lol

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Soo basically the teacher gave himself a B for his own Work?

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Someone stole my woodshop project, teacher knew but because there was no proof gave me a 5 anyway and downmarked the theifs.

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I was out for 2 weeks with swine flu. Came back at the end of the semester and asked if I could work after school or during lunch to...

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Finish. He said no, then failed me because I never finished the project. Asshole.

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Kid I knew was making a race car body with a bandsaw, pushing it from behind with his thumb. Pushed too hard, boop, half his thumb gone.

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Ohh man I've seen that shit happening. Girl in my class got her hand caught in the belt sander once and forgot there was an emergency brake

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ouchee

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damn, hard to think when shit hits the fan

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Way back in middle school a girl was on one of the saws and she wasn't looking where she was going. One less hand than she had before.

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I saw a girl get her hair wrapped around a drill press while it was on a high speed. Scalp injuries are messy af.

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That's why my teachers insisted on hair being tied back. Just common sense at that point really.

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