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newsguycraigevans
Everything seen here is an example of how the American Republican party is currently conducting business.
GenocidalViper
Still a recipe for success, considering the result of the Italian vote today.
porcubot
Where are the other four
elmonosabio
Interestingly, these rules are often true at the micro level for individual psychopathology.
arfysdad
It's a good book. I highly recommend it.
easyoneundone
DrankTooMuchMead
I would add that cult rule. "Any outside information must be quickly stomped out or dismissed. Even if it is from friends or family."
CaptainADHD
For anyone who really wants to study the underpinnings of fascism, I recommend Umberto Eco's Ur-Fascism.
Bunnies007
In the unlikely event that confirmation is needed, please visit Breitbart comments boards. That is all.
michaelfire
War is Peace, Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, 1984.
sgnight13
Great book btw
LexaLotus
Also a great description of the UK government since Brexit.
youbetchamom
I hate to point this out, but MAGAsses say all this is about Dems. Just ask my family.
FunkyMonkeyRumJunky
Welp, we tick all the boxes. VOTE.
Abraxaz777
Trump works hard at stealing money.
ionlyregisteredtosavelinks
Holy shit, was #9 a thing also in the 20s & 30s? As in _exactly_ how it's used by the right today?
Cheomesh
Yes, and even older (hence the literally biblical reference)
Fuckweasel
Fucking hell that's so apropos to today, terrifying.
TrickyPockets
That author wrote another one called 'How Propaganda Works' that's also really good. And relevant, unfortunately.
tinyCabbage
Labour Party, 1,2,6,7,8,9,10
roflipop
Arbeit macht frei. That one hit home. Almost a century on and we’re absolutely nowhere as a species.
arek314
Fits Putin's Russia pretty great. They are light on praising work ethic but go into max victimhood.
Immgoohr
Check the protests in Iran. USA could learn from them and will probably need that in the future.
pastaholic74
Yowch that last one hits deep
navyjeff
PatThaiCM
Tasteless. That’s never gonna be funny
NomDeImguerre
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/ So, what Umberto Eco said.
Rodltwo
MuffinProof
Rodltwo
Deal
Violaquin
So, you’re saying the US is already there? Checks out. This country is exhausting.
Mayfly10
The US isn't lost, yet, but it's not looking good. Vote, always.
The701
REALLY not looking good. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/9/26/23343192 If the Federalist-Society-owned Supreme Court isn't
The701
reigned in, the coup will be wholly successful.
Tumescentpie
We are a plutocracy that just went hard on the christofascism via roe being overturned. We are a police state with private prisons that
Tumescentpie
Function as slave camps. The racism is so inherent in our systems that when you critize them people think you hate America. We are fucked up
Violaquin
This person gets it, but I fucking wish this were wrong.
Arsikere
#3 this very much IS true it just depends on whether you see it as bad or not. the same thing happened in pre-revolutionary china and russia
Cheomesh
It's never good.
Corona688
#9 explain to me how a new york city slicker ex-democrat convinced people he was one of them.
sparky2212
Money and bigotry.
sevendragonsandababy
See points 2 and 4
likeumreal
Racism is a hell of a drug.
sturmhauke
Short answer: they're stupid. Longer answer: they're uneducated, hateful, bigoted, vengeful, and also really fucking stupid.
Cheomesh
The South has a long and proud history of being swindled by Yankee Carpetbaggers. Source: Am southerner.
Syrpynt
Psychopaths with Charisma used "Rallying cry", Nat 20.
MikeKeyser
mark my words, Liz Cheney, an obvious Republican by deed, will run as a Democrat in the future.
lxix
That doesn't change her overly republican views. Either way, the republican party wins in the end.
MikeKeyser
Yeah I can't see people who vote democrat wanting to vote for her just because she's in exile from the R party for not towing the line.
bolbis
Simple: He regurgitated their BS spewed anonymously in Fox News' comment section on a daily basis out loud. Permission to hate was granted.
TK421isAFK
Same way an Austrian guy with brown hair and eyes can convince blonde/blue-eyed German people that he's one of them.
Chupacabrabreath
Not all Germans are or were Blue eyed blondes.
TK421isAFK
It took you 4 months to miss the point?
Chupacabrabreath
Why Bless your little heart!
RollToSaveAgainst
He hates what they hate and he helps enable their hatred, which is usually a scape goat for their actual problems and personal failings
jayman0123
But the key difference, he hates them too
RollToSaveAgainst
They passionately hate themselves too but don't realize it because, "well when we do it, it's different!"
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Not just enable, but glorify, lionize. He tells them they're good people for hating what they already hate and violently lashing out.
OutlawGerman
BabababaBINGO!
RollToSaveAgainst
Trump should be listed as a form of cancer of society, he really does embody the worst of humanity
StewedTomaters
People forget that back in the 80s and 90s rappers were name-dropping him in their lyrics. He was a household name - men envied him. Then
StewedTomaters
the scales started to fall from all of our eyes. And yeah fucking right "he was a Democrat." He shrewdly voted and supported
StewedTomaters
Democrats because they ran the political/social circles in NYC where he was building his empire. He'd have voted for/donated to the Islamic
StewedTomaters
State if they were winning elections in his home town.
shepahrdjhon
No, he was hated back then too. A bunch of rich bad guys in movies were made after him, especially Big from Back to the Future >>
shepahrdjhon
>> there is even a movie where he literally plays himself as a villian and Anthony Quinn plays a ghost.
Hyzenthlay021
Pretty spot on. Noticed several lists of banned books included 1984. I can understand why GOP wouldn't want anyone reading that.
oliharris19697
Fascism and Narcissism are a pathological mental and societal illness.
ArcaneConjecture
I remember when the GOP loved "1984" because it's anti-communist. Now they hate it because it's also anti-authoritarian.
could
Pretty sure they still love it.
Sinmiedo1931
Fantastic audiobook version on YouTube. Just Google the title +audiobook. I listen to it regularly.
drbloodbathmc
Which channel? Multiple pop up.
Sinmiedo1931
Here ya go : https://youtu.be/CBPNrVQwqeo
drbloodbathmc
Thank you!
Shakes20
I wonder if their voter base would even be able to see the parallels? Seems like defunding education worked really well.
orangebunnies
That's the point of DoubleThink I suppose, you're vocabulary is so distorted by censorship that you can read the words but don't understand.
dirtcreature
Cuts both ways tho. There's a lot of this coming from both sides...
Malak224
If you could source books that democrats are banning or burning, I’d love to read it.
WhichNameDoIChoose
And your comments are the reason we're in this mess. Right now it isn't from both sides so your point only dilutes the truth. Stop it.
ChuckTingleBattlesTheAssGoblinsofAuschwitz
Ah yes, both sides: anti-fascist and fascist. Though imperfect I will chose anti-fascist
dirtcreature
The far left antifa are driving the far right. Us in the middle are getting fucked by these two sociopathic entities.
Alvexias
Username relevant
TheDutchestofmen
The right is pretty shitty at the moment, but they don't do nearly as much damage as the people that go "bOtH sIdEs".
dirtcreature
They do. The far left is the target of the far right and vice versa. That is the actual problem. Both have cans of gasoline.
orangebunnies
Who is making it harder to vote? Who is gas-lighting refuges? Who is supporting laws that take rights away from women when they get raped?
heroesblood
No there isn't.
HavelTh3Rock
No, there isn't, and to insinuate otherwise is playing into their fucking hands. The left is far from perfect, but I'll take that (1/2)
HavelTh3Rock
over literal, flesh and blood Nazis. (2/2)
walterPPK
You should read 1984. Then read one of Trump’s speeches. Big yikes from me.
TigersOnAcid
or animal farm
orangebunnies
Read both. Animal Farm is about work, class and capital. 1984 is more relevant to book bans given the parallels to DoubleThink and NewSpeak.
Madv1lla1n
It's like The Man In The High Castle, but like the Allies did win, and the Axis starts to creep back in...
jayman0123
No there's not. Shut the fuck up
commentsbadcomments
They’re talking bad about me killing people, I think we’ve both created this mess. Next serial killer defense.
TheRealArclight
OutlawGerman
Hey look. A nazi bootlicker everyone. We all know what to do with them right....
dirtcreature
You proved my point. Good job.
Hyzenthlay021
Isn't there always :( People forget all these things are tactics. At the moment it's coming from the right, but the left is not w/o sin.
orangebunnies
Yes all politicians lie, it is rare to find one that doesn't but that's the game of politics, it's the intention behind the lie that matters
aclarko
The trends suggest otherwise. Pro-tip: anecdotes and a single article here or there about the same thing don't prove shit.
UncleTwistyFresh
Criticism should be saved for when we aren't in the potential fascist takeover of the USA ngl
dirtcreature
No. The flames are fanned on both sides and us in the middle are fucked because of it.
UncleTwistyFresh
One side wants to devolve into authoritarianism and the other thinks that by virtue of working you should be able to live. Not the same.
TheobromineAddict
#9 That "rural heartland, backbone of the nation" crap is a rewind of the "noble savage" ideal.
andrathor
Well ironically when fascism was birthed they ibky campaigned in Italian cities, rural was a waste of time. The thing about fascism in Italy
andrathor
Only** -- was it's ability to change stances and retain the support if it's followers.
ArcaneConjecture
True. But American politicians also must pander to rural areas because of their over-representation in the Senate and Electoral College.
hoozyerdatty
don't forget "salt of the earth", "real or true (insert country name here)", etc
Bigemedic
And yet, most right-wing thought leaders are wealthy, live in cities and despise the unwashed prols.
crazyspelling
That's when the movement escapes their control: when the kool-aid drinkers become powerful enough to take over from the hypocrite old guard.
Cheomesh
Because Ruritania sucks. Source: Live in a rural zone.
Yacobs21
Yup. It's easy to reverse propaganda since none of it really matters. Take the HBC and Australia both using a one drop rule 1/?
Yacobs21
if you have laws to 'help' the natives just say being any part non-native rules you out. If your laws are strictly anti-native then say 2/3
Yacobs21
being one part native rules you out. 3/3
leechdemon
Never thought of it that way. 1800's, Midwest: "These heathens need society", 2000's, Midwest: "Those heathens need less society". Dolts.
Gaiashining
We’re stuck between civilisation and sedentism which brings taxes and disease. And hunter gatherer style subsistence living which doesn’t
Gaiashining
bring technological advances. There’s pros and cons for both and people should be free to live according to their preference. But <
Gaiashining
capitalism demands we all be civilised and is actively taking all choice away.
Cheomesh
Rome had a bit of that going on as well; basically all business was done in the cities but the wealthy would retire to country manors to 1/
Cheomesh
play at being the virtuous farmer of old. Not actually toiling in the soil much, mind, but virtuous none the less. 2/2
Arsikere
too bad we get all our food from them
Cheomesh
Needs mitigated for sure
Allusernamesaretakensoichoosethis
Most of my food comes from other countries.
dposton70
Most of my food comes from California. Not really "heartland".
TheobromineAddict
Here in Southern California, a LARGE amount of fruits and vegetables come from Mexico and Chile.
Arsikere
i live in CA. that food comes from the red areas, which are quite rural
K1d1caru5
That area is mildly red and becoming increasingly light blue and dark blue.Wouldn’t call Central Valley a red stronghold. Pockets sure
Arsikere
well yeah, i this is true
Gaiashining
This is the problem….any group can be “othered” and history shows it’s mostly indigenous peoples who work on the land that are the victims<
Gaiashining
> British farmers are currently experiencing this from the Tories. The plan is to “reclaim” farmland for “investment “ and put all family <
Gaiashining
> owned farms out of business. The Masai are currently being “relocated “ from their lands by WWF in the name of conservation, but they’re<
Gaiashining
> building expensive tourist resorts on that land. Old style colonialism wrapped up in 21st century jargon.