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itsameglassologybyt
could use A LOT more nature, to look good. Reminds me of Wall-E... instead of piles of cubes, it's piles of crumbling structure.
BadAsprin
I dont even want to fly over it
Kerpwangitang
I think I can see myself having a meltdown in traffic on the harlem River drive
badmojo42
Would never live there but damn is it fun to go. Late night pizza. Bars open until 4am. Little Italy. Meet people from all over the world
restingduckface
What you've got there is an infestation
Vortex153
Looks more like an infestation
chapitaine
Does it?
immunity
I'll take a peaceful green suburb any day. Give me a neighborhood like something out of Better Living Through Chemistry.
TheEliteInvaderZim
I've lived there. It's not bad. Better than florida.
Sausageneek
People thought I was crazy when I told them it stank after travelling from Newark to JFK on a layover.
DanielTheCanadian
somewhere in that picture. 30 homeless people are taking poops on the street
ihavethisusernameinparticular
That’s a lot of mould on the sandwich.
vladrichdemaclant
I can't see much nature there. So, no, doesn't look good to me.
jabubub
I hate it. I can already feel the aggressions from everyone making their way through those streets.
Joeefx
Right now every crime known to man is happening there. lol
Liquidspine69
Looks like cancer!
Jaqdakloun
Doesn't look very inviting.
URNSHOW
Everything looks good from a distance. Cities, cars,.... women....
Chaffedgazell
I took my kid to collage and had to go south and see new york, I will remember that trip for life. Great city.
Was there on trash day too. Thousands of bag of garbage but no smell and I didnt see rats at all. You want rats Chicago owns the crown.
Pizza sucks. Shock to me that the pizza sucked.
meencontreconunarusaquesabiaquenataliaoreiroerauruguaya
That looks good for you???
ididthisforthedogs
WTF is everyone shitting on NYC for?? Your title should read it is one of the most diverse cities on the planet, with the best food and
music. Imgur jumping on the hate bandwagon when most people haven't lived here SMH. Do you live here OP?
tomatoboy
It is trendy in certain circles to mock NYC, LA, SF, etc... at the moment.
Imalwaysready
So you've never made fun of Texas or Florida without living there, then?
No, I don't shit on cities or states like that. Especially when I know these areas encompass millions of people.
Definitely not saying I'm a saint. I'm just way more specific when it comes to trashing a person or place
As a Texan, that's a shame because we are ripe for parody, satire, insult, and shame. You're missing out.
notyetadaddy
NYC isn’t for everyone. Not everyone is cut out for life here. But many of us who live here absolutely love it, myself included.
Can’t imagine living anywhere else.
Legpoker
As most third world countries do.
FourLegsGood
I think it's metaphor.
lordfwahfnah
brusilov
Oooh, buurnnn. Wait, plz don't burn... it's been through enough, ohh the humanity
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
KleptoKea
Third world countries are doing better than this shithole called USA.
fotopoulosgeorge124
Are you French ?
No?
RidingDragonsWithoutALicense
BahamutBBob
TIL the US was not part of the Cold War group containing the US and allies.
SergeiBoobtitsky
icounttopotato
With a GDP of $1.5 trillion, NYC is in the top 20 economies in the world. Problem is very poor leadership in the city. Not that bad though.
causamortis1
There are countries smaller than NYC. IT needs to be a larger governing body. The whole metro area has more people than 150 other countries
broverdose
Nah you couldn't pay me to live in the states lol
LakeOfPeace
1 trillion of that is split between 30ish people.
cwbyboots
GDP?
The city i mean, the leaders are that bad. Even worse actually. De Blasio is the worst joke ever, no punch line except for his face.
CommodusLeitdorf
Not like he could do much with the Governor having Veto over it, and we all know how fucked he is.
flavivsaetivs
Looks like Andrew Yang might win the mayoral race, I'm not saying he'll succeed, but at least he actually gives a fuck.
texasfoodman
Is there a mayor you would ever be happy with?
Yes, at this point I'd settle for almost anyone but De Blasio. What a catastrophe.
I’m for hire. I’d start by demolishing half the buildings to put trees up. Sound good? I can start next Tuesday.
Markamanic
Now extrapolate that issue throughout the entirety of the US government and you get... Well, the US.
GoodGuyGonzo
Switzerland is a third world country by definition
DropDeadFread
By old definition, not colloquial.
Bigbolgnasandwich
He means cause we're a shithole.
Cutwail
Wearing a gucci belt.
scpredmage
While term "third world countries" was coined in the Cold War to refer to non-aligned countries... 1/2
itrynottocommentbutyoumakemecringe
Yes. We know. Thanks.
If someone is calling Switzerland a third world country "by definition" when there's a post-Cold War official definition...
...and accompanying official list of third world countries that doesn't include it, then clearly "we" don't know.
...since the end of the Cold War it has come to mean "developing" nations, which Switzerland is decidedly NOT. 2/2
Abfallkonto
Fun fact for me is that this implies the existence of second world countries, which is a term we need to resurrect
I mean, “implies”. In fact there are defined second world countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
ObliqueRay
And has Spiderman, don't forget Spiderman.
JasonThorn
LloydBergenson
Anyone who thinks New York is more charming by air has never walked its streets or 150+ historic districts.
Murmull
I mean everyone has their own taste in aesthetics. But damn to me that looks like a nightmare.
Same to me. The grid-like layout is so depressing, as is the lack of greenery. Plus, it's that shithole country USA, so fuck that anyway.
IWasACatAllAlong
That isn't a shot from bladerunner 2077, or whatever the fuck number they put on it?
PleasantPeasantPheasant
It looks like a 3D render of a statistics map.
CrossEyedPigeonToed
Coruscant?
It's just so many goddamned people.
barnwolf
The big ass park in the middle is kinda cool.
TablesBobbyTables
For me, that looks like a dream come true.
kikichunt
It's pretty WOW from the ground. And so many great songs, too . . .
ShadeEmberi
why do you think aliens keep trying to blow it up !
HandoB4Javert
akom
I enjoy visiting big cities but I'd never live in one by choice. They just seem so chaotic to me.
Airwolfen
Went to Tokyo in 2019. Impressive place for a vacation. But no way I would want to live there for years on end.
Trustmeimadogtor
Same. Cool to visit, but I would never want to live in a huge city.
YOURFRIEND2010
People like you and me built that thing. Stone by stone, over a hundred years. Staggering to think about. Ineffably beautiful
Bigemedic
They just kept building up. And up. And up. Amazing.
LateNightBunnyParty
Right? Same here. I had to live in a town once. Had neighbors' houses like 25' from my own. No thank you, I'll stick to rural.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
We have too many billions for that to work for everyone. It's not ideal.
Nobody said it had to work for everyone. But I personally like rural life.
That's nice for you. I'm just saying that society has to look at -this- and try to improve on it. That's the future.
Mmmkay, well that is a whole different conversation that nobody was even having. So.
vman2000
1st house I owned was a townhouse. Could hear music through the walls. Cars parked in front of my house. Now I have 3+ acres and silence.
Nice. It's good to have acreage, isn't it? I wake up to the sounds of roosters and wild birds.
SirGalahadKnight
Same I was a country girl who thought the city looked fascinating, moved to a city & was disturbed how unnaturally crowded & gross it was.
HaloArchitect
I grew up in a small city (250K->500K in about 20 years). I get crazy paranoid walking along 5th Ave in NYC the odd time I visit.
I grew up in a place 50 population with men women and children all counted. My school was 20 kids teachers and staff together.my class was3
I almost fainted when I saw my first skyscraper, cried in the glass elevator all the way to the top. Didn’t understand the stop lights.
Was 3kids but we were all taught in one room.
OmegaKamidake
My closest neighbors for most my life were at least 1 minute walks through the woods. Now living in an apartment complex in the city...
My grandparents lived next door when I was a kid, but everyone else was miles away.
And by "next door," I mean "a few minutes' walk."
Im from rural Iceland whenever im in a city its like my spideysense starts tingling and i just want to GTFO.
HeyQueef
Wretched hive of scum and villainy
MargarineMeadows21
Blades in the Dark?
Mostly lower Manhattan tho, they reside in the tall buildings.
FrolickingFrolicking
That part is called Wall Street
rangerryda
The same could be said for Florida.
docneel
Stinks.rats.horrible roads.traffic.AND jazz, theatre, music, restaurants, good and bad people, central park , Life ..loads of it.
railgap
...at any hour of the day
NinjaIsAwesome
Always attacked by aliens.
BlackCatSerenade99900
Not gonna lie, I miss the hell out of it. Especially the fooooooood. BX represent!!!
stolie
People are leaving NYC in droves
Lol why the DVs? It's just a fact.
SwampWampa
Too expensive. A friend had a 350sqft apt for $1600. Bad area, smelled, roaches, loud af, and everything was in bad repair and really old.
ChristopherDeConcini
Sounds like most of the "apartments" in my rural/suburban town
Why live there when you can telework and afford a nice house for that payment.
I concur.
parabolic000
Stinks, rats, and traffic...You probably wouldn't enjoy Paris.
notabadlyphotoshoppedimageofyourmom
Paris is probably the worst place i've ever been to.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
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I wouldn't go that far. Better Paris than really any third-world-country city. It's definitely not as glamorous as made out to be, but...
it's been a while since I've been, and I'd like to give it another go. Even if just for the food.
The food was one of the worst parts! Hella expensive and not that great imo.
TheVampireDante
I like Paris when I get to visit, but the drivers can go fuck themselves.
You ever taken a cab in Chennai or Cairo? Ffffuck. Donkey-pulled carts on the raised expressway. Ragpickers in piles in the gutters...
bogie41
I just found were moving there for wife's work in 18 months. Help me get excited!
evilcarp
Tell her its you or the job. There are other women out there who you don't have to follow to hell.
Shamorza
Very friendly governor.
AlfakaGordonShumway
RUN! DON'T STOP!
cyrusjoneslivedforever
Museums. Central Park Zoo. Pizza, hot dogs, gyros. Arthur Ave. Broadway. People watching in the streets.
entercleverusernamehereplease
Hope you weren't too attached to her. You don't have to go.
lujotu
New York really is as lot of fun. Every time ive gone (easily 50 times over the past 20 years) I stumble into a hilariously good time
Also, the food is fantastic and endlessly varied. Even shitty little bodegas make fantastic sandwiches, and of course the pizza, the bagels.
langri
You can get nearly any food you could possibly want at any time of the day, easy.
Yes!
Drakhma
there are loads of ROUS
Spiked
Since no one has mentioned it yet. The people are actually a plus. You can find nearly any niche. Explore some new groups
poilk91
One of the best ways to enjoy a sunny day is get on the ferry on the east river have some beers and soak in the view get off downtown to eat
Zonino
Broadway!
Yes! Tou che!
DecentGatsby
Its an amazing place. I think everyone should live in NYC at least for a short time. You can truly be anyone you want to be there
rando84
One random advantage is automatically having a geographic frame of reference for the 50% of movies/tv shows set in NYC.
SirBillington
As a masshole,
Haha Im a Masshole born & raised too
Just ask the Gov of NY!
The governor lives in Albany.
You don’t need to live in Manhattan if you don’t want to. The outer boroughs & commuter rail lines range from dense urban to semi-rural (1
this is great advice, you can ride a train or subway into downtown/midtown in 30 minutes from all over
small towns. The amenities are pretty great (bars, restaurants, theaters, museums, etc.) & you can fly anywhere cheap. (2
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
never been to ny, ny. is it really that bad?
I've been to nicer shit holes in third world nations. There are some sites to see but overall it sucks for more than a few days visit.
so more of a place to visit rather than stay, right?
Byrhtnoth
No. It's a huge metropolitan city that's been around for a couple centuries, so some places are more in need of repair than others, but 1/2
There's more beauty there than decay. And I mean that in terms of people as well as buildings and streets - some of the strangest and 2/3
Most wonderful folks I've met in all of my travels I've met in NY, NY. 3/3
DonkeySauceBukkake
I’ve been once, it was cool but not my cup of tea. I’m southern we smile at each other. No one in New York smiles.
badgerbadgerbadgermushroommushroom
It was like visiting a mud puddle at the end of a sidewalk
lol
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
I lived in Manhattan twice for 6 months, once in 2012 & again in 2018. Noticably worse the 2nd time. Angrier, more congested. I blame Uber.
what's with Uber?
yeahIbreedtreelizards
It was great after guliani cleaned it up before going crazy. It's a mess now. It has everything though. And the best food.
newb question... NY, NY is just a city in NY right? i mean NY is bigger?
NY city is the largest city in NY, the state.
MacDaddySmitt
Manhattan is just saturated with a urine smell. No trees anywhere. "Veterans" buggin you for money any time you stop moving
why are veterans asking for money? arent they taken care of after their service?
wiltsjunk
It's got amazing energy. So much to do there. In my 20s, I loved visiting Manhattan. But I would never want to live there
DoesItThough
Been to the airport once, with a 8hrs layover... They asked if we wanted the lights off in our little corner so we could sleep!
TheStonedCrafter
As someone born here... I don't even feel like I can afford to live by myself.. everything is stupid expensive. I won't be able to stay here
most well known places are like this i think. not sure if the term is "gentrified"?
Yup. That's it exactly. Anyone that was born here has been priced out by everyone else who wants to come. It's fucking bullshit.
Depends. Are you a minority?
yepitspuck
It's amazing, it truly is. Visit if you get the chance. And don't eat anywhere you recognize the name.
hopefully i get to travel soon. plan to bring my bike and ride all over the N.Am continent.
JerryTheBold
Yes it is, and it's going to get worse now that tax revenue plummeted. Bridges are past their lifespan, as are the subway tracks. The (1/2)
MTA mismanaged itself into bankruptcy. The wealth gap is the highest in the country and NYPD basically invented racism. Food is good tho.
"racism" <- is it a good place for travelers? or better be careful for now?
Ecastillo
nah, it's not that bad. It is terribly expensive though.
as in prohibitively and unfairly expensive?
carrera9988
which city do you recommend visiting? I am from South America and I plan to visit the north
persianwrangler
If you like cities it is awesome. Most vibrant culture in the US. Lived in the Bronx for 5 years, miss it like crazy.
anitabieror6
ive never been but 2 different friends, told me it smells like pee. another friend lives in Bushwick and she loves it
Evergrey
I quite liked it.
a sibling went there for some event. he said he liked it too. never been to US though so no idea lol.
It has everything. Even beautiful forest with waterfalls, in central park.
AmericansAreHilarious
It's a big city in the US. what do you expect? First world standards?
Also the best city in the US thats why none of us can afford to
But you have guns and can shoot each other, and that's something nice, right?
LAMovieDesign
NYC is a great city.
bochikiniki
Fun to visit, but not to live in.
kd7uns
If it were that bad then the rent wouldn't be so crazy high, because people would leave...
MorningMahogany
In Summer all you smell is fermenting homeless piss
yikes. does it stick to your clothes? anything done to help the homeless not be homeless anymore?
DeguRatface
Visited it for my first trip to America years ago. 1/10, kinda shit.
anything noteworthy that cemented a 1/10 stars?
It was cold, a tiny bit of grit got in my eye and i got the worst infection, rude people, scam artists and badly ignored homeless >
people freezing to death on the streets... plus ridiculous prices (though i expect that with most big cities anyway), generally. HOWEVER...
It is worth noting that i am an introvert so part of that may have been on me.
camvani
no
HAVEANOTHERONEOKp
I rather visit Yosemite, too each their own.
how far is it from NY?
peeps from NY like to complain about NY as much as people who arent but its mostly tongue and cheek, but there is def stinky places and rats
Superchief86
I had 7 nights there ten years ago. It was a great time. The Aussie dollar was worth more than the USD at the time too, so that was a bonus.
no drop bears in NY, huh?
yourcreepyunclefriendly
Pretty much all cities stink, have terrible roads, traffic, and lots of rats. Way she goes
PieAndPunch
New York is almost like its own world. Nowhere else in the country is like it
tcdriver
Aint that the truth....I love NY....I HATE NY....I MISS NY....
gonzar09
Live in LI and son of a Bronxman. Some sections are better than others, but it's a helluva place to visit every now and then.
Lambast
NY smells more like piss than any other city I've been too, and I've been to Paris.
manamongstyou
Nah. It's not everyone's cupatea but if you like big cities it's awesome.
AriBoBari
Wouldn’t live anywhere else. I love it here.
cryptonat
Worth a visit once. Typical tourist distractions. Never ever live there. Its a trap that you'll probably never escape. So expensive.
If its too expensive doesn't that make it hard to stay and easy to leave
How can you leave if you can't save up the money due to being trapped by high living costs?
??? The same way you leave any city, the real problem is all cities are expensive but thats where the jobs are
GriffinMann41
We've visited a couple times, and IMO it's treated kinda harshly. At least, from our experience. Nice people, nice food, but expensive.
PimpinKen
I loved it
upthehillandtotheright
No
danke
Imherefortheanimalpics
NYC has a different energy. All of old history, cultures, present times, grime and success mixed together. Mever know what's behind a corner
and the best egg bacon cheese bagels in the country
Im not part taking in this debate! All bagels are good!
haha true, every city has the best bagels for the people who live there
remarks61693
I'm from NYC originally. I feel like it's harder for transplants and visitors because the appeal of NYC is being from there
There's a certain hometown pride that makes it liveable. For me, being there during 9/11 is a big part of it.
oh didn't realize it... 9/11 was in NY!
Grahamalam
Born and raised. No it's not.
PooPculture
It's all of that and so much more. It's everything at once. Nowhere else in the world is quite like it, both the good and bad.
ezzmann
ahnicemarmot
No, it's not that bad.
Sugarbritches21
I went for a weekend trip there. It smells like trash and piss, ungodly amount of homeless people, solicitors trying to sell you mix tapes
z0MgIrt3hSt0N3CRv5h3rFr0mt3x4S
I went for the first time 2 years ago and one thing you don't get in the movies is the smell. Combine urine with exhaust fumes and weed.
sightlab
The only think I loved more than living there was moving away from there. It’s a fun city though.
TheKingRamen
mrbitterness
It’s the best city in the world.
Kuuppajumi
Why?
It's a hard question to answer, it's a special place. My #1 answer would be access. Access to cultures, food, airports, beaches, mountains,
Fair enough, thanks. A lot of cities around the world do have same things though. Reason for me asking is that I really didn't like the..
..place, but I really like some old continent cities (Rome, Paris, London) and also enjoyed Toronto.. but NY for some reason isn't for me.
jobs, education, languages, entertainment. There's nothing you can't access here by train. How cool is that?
Gonz15
The trash on the street is what really shocked me. They really don’t have alleys. So that’s where the trash goes to get picked up.
ohhh so something like wrong city planning? are we talking about mountains of trash?
I mean they are pretty big piles. Trash gets picked up constantly. You are always side stepping it and it’s just always there
No. It's one of the oldest, most historic cities in the US with incredibly charming neighborhoods, parks, restaurants, museums, etc.
TIL about being one of the oldest!
Founded in 1624, so older than Boston! We have Dutch farmhouses dating back to the 1650s!
CrazyCatLad
Expensive, loud, smelly, horrible to drive in. Would never want to live there or any city. But it still is worth visiting for a day.
is it a walk-friendly place?
Eh, depends how far you're going. Everytime I go some sidewalks are closed so you'll have to reroute to the other side or something.
Icantbelieveitsnotbutlers
Only if you're some kind of bumpkin
ComcastLover
Trash in the street
DemSumBigAssRidges
It depends on your definition of bad. If traffic is your definition, every major city sucks. But, imo, NYC is up its own ass.
josebornedumont1
Beats Vegas!!! That's for sure with the quality food and people!
Brience
Love living here. Been my home for five years.
what was the hardest and easiest adjustments you had to make?
TheDanWithNoName
I've lived here for 20yrs and I love it.Also lived in 4 countries in 10 cities (lived in, not visited) & I cant imagine being anywhere else.
that is nice. the place grew on you.
bendistraw
Strikes and gutters. Way better than it was. The people, art, and opportunities are amazing!!
strikes? as in people going on strike?
Strikes and gutters as in “good and bad”.
tjinme
No, it's worse. Most dysfunctional city I've ever known.
Kartoffelpatata
Moved here 5 years ago. Every city has parts that suck and parts that are great. NY has both in abundance.
Yes! Lot's of beauty though lived here for 6 years. Just renegotiated my rent down 17% because of the pandemic.
gratz!
DarkHollowDulcimers
The view from the corner at Bleeker & LaGuardia.
2plus2is5
Hey neighbor...
Spooner & I were just visiting to install a kitchen.
parkerh17
Most big cities smell, Vegas is terrible outside the hotels.
EnergyFiend
I think it's a great place to live for a few years while you're young, but the pace takes its toll. All I miss is the food.
RadonGaming
No it's not. Vegas on the other hand... Cesspool
never been to vegas... for some reason vegas brings up images of desert and tanks.
No dude, not bad at all. Some of the best food and music in the world. I have been living all over the city the past 6 years. With a pop
of over 8million you will have good and bad instances. It' inevitable.
StarTrekandGin
Nice to visit. Would never live there. Infrastructure is terrible.
What do you mean? Where is it better, I live here because its the only US city I dont need a damn car
textilelover
You don't need one in Boston. It's much better to not have one in Boston. I'd rather drive in NYC than Boston any day of the week.
My brother lives in boston, its nice its a small city so its easy to get around but its subway coverage isn't as good
I was really surprised by the subway. For a very very rich city, it didn’t reflect the life above.
is there a US city that is bike friendly?
a few smaller cities. I get everywhere on my bike in NYC but only certain neighborhoods are particularly bike friendly
RamenWithExtraNoodles
Smells like piss but it has nice things. Worth visiting at least once
DarkRedCape
Went to the US some years ago. JFK airport looks like a police station from a run down neighbourhood in a poor quality 80s TV show.
haitamimama
Nearly every airport looks like that. Except Denver. Middle of prairie with a cursed horse statue. Weird but a nice state
llgghh17
No one is defending our airports... :-) But, it's a major infrastructure project right now. Visit in 24 months.
My connecting flight was actually at Newark airport, and that place was amazing. Such a nice, clean and modern place. Relaxing too.
elmonosabio
No. It’s not that bad.
I’ve lived here 10 years and couldn’t imagine living anywhere else.
nightrodrider
It's not as bad as they make it, it's different for sure, but access and convinience is amazing, living in the boroughs is best of both....
Worlds.
It can get expensive though, especially to live nicely,so either you have a well paying career or your a young student who is flexible
StorytellingSalem
No. Some ppl have a sick fetish with talking shit about things and finding joy in that. Dont worry about those cunts. Ny is beautiful; go v
Visit* when the rona shuts down.
It seems like it doesn’t have a great tree to building ratio to me.
Go to a great tree to building area then if thats what youre looking for. But dont compare fish to mountains then complain about the mountai
Mountain’s lack of ability to swim
Some folk who don't live here love to romanticize it after watching Sex in the City, but it's nothing like that. Please visit though!
yah. hopefully this pandemic disappears soon :( i want to travel.
DeltaLaw
I love NYC, couldn't get enough of it while I was in NJ. But I didn't live there, can't speak to that.
Ratufa
No. If you’re going as a tourist, you’d be an idiot to drive there. Subway, taxis, & walking are all options, depending on your location.
ThickTomato
worth a visit, especially for the museums, get a slice of pizza and hot dog while there, look at central park, and then you can go home
man if thats what you did you really missed out
I'm not far, what should I do next time
I like to get on the east river ferry on the upper east side and ride it downtown with some beer then get lunch on stone street
I love villages, Going into smaller theaters to see shows or small clubs for jazz. Go chill in Brooklyn and astoria for great food
I did ride the subway on my own. Saw the freedom tower
TheHorseDivorce
I had a job freestyle rapping for a bus tour on 8th ave. A man who was day drinking took my mic and yelled at the bus. It was 2Chainz
sorry... 2chainz?
I don't know if this is cool or good or bad but it's kind of what makes new york's special
CowardTheCouragelyCat
That's a great story actually
justarocknroller
It gives me a headache after a few days, but it's a super cool town
how come? too busy?
It’s sensory overload. Very loud. Bright lights at night. Lots of motion. Lots of smells (ranging from good to wretched).
I have the same problem. I can only tolerate big cities like NYC for maybe 24-72 hours.
SteveO
The smell, the noise. It's crowded
The5lacker
The rats seem to like it
I thought the rat moved to Florida?
LetsShall
Every time I visited I was honestly horrified by how much trash was on the streets and how dirty the subway stations were.
must have been in the 80"s
Same. I work in Chicago and visiting clients would always comment how clean the city was. I didn’t really understand that until I visited NY
been reading about trash... is the place really full of trash?
rawlingtonnn
Moved to NYC from west palm beach Florida 5 years ago. It’s an amazing place to live.
That tells me you're well off or are ignoring the awfulness around you. Please sign up here to volunteer: www.newyorkcares.org
LeakyBunghole
Be less of a cunt
I did that same move after college too! Best thing ever, but the pace wore me down after 8 yrs. Moved to CA, now I think I'm home.
PowayMermaid
Congrats on escaping Florida!! ?
eldooterino
Every major city is that bad. This one just happens to have Broadway, the Met, Lincoln Center, MoMA, etc.
FnordGallop
Nah, most major cities have working infrastructure and decent public sanitation. Even in the US this is standard. Chicago dealt with
its downtown traffic by jacking all the buildings up two stories and having additional layers of infrastructure for city services.
what's with the steam anyway? NY brings up image of a Steam City to me :/
And the Cloisters!
Tforme22
And the library!!
Literally anything you could want, somewhere in the city, available 24 hours a day.
chuckles11
How could you leave out the AMNH you uncultured swine
Lack of coffee. And the AMNH is the only one I have a membership for, out of the lot
nicolaisheen
Shame on the 2 of you for ignoring the Whitney
It’s a big city, with all that entails. If you’re the sort of person who likes cities, you’ll probably love NYC. For me personally...
"with all that entails" <- i guess this is it. it's a mix of different colors and a broad brush wouldn't really do it justice.
...I love to visit, but it’s too chaotic for me in larger doses. A lot of the complaints people make about NYC are overblown, while...
maybe NY is not for me... i get overwhelmed really fast esp i spend days outdoors doing outdoorsy stuff.
...similarly some of the romantic idealization is also overblown. It’s a cool place with a lot of good food, interesting stuff to do...
...and sort of a patina of being lived in some more recently developed big cities lack, populated by interesting if a bit brusque people.
Is it dirtier than say, Singapore or Toronto? Hell yeah. Are the subway stations funky as hell? Yes, but they work in spite of it.
AeonQuasars
Decent enough to visit. I could never live there though.
weirdisgood
Thats what i say about PA, decent to visit, but could never live there. home depot is 40 minutes away (rural)
same thing i say about zurich. great place but a bit too sleepy for me.
TwentyEightCharacterUsername
Depends where. Either it’s an okay place to live but absurdly expensive, or a shit place to live and still pretty fuckin expensive.
MackinawPeach
Told myself that all my life being from a small town. Moved up 5 years ago and love it. Pre-rona of course.
Agreed- Came from Kansas/Oklahoma in 2009. Lived in Brooklyn since (Can see my place in this photo!) I love NYC.
thanks. my only knowledge of it is that there are lots of pokemons in central park (?) back when PoGo was still a thing.
NotNotDeadpool
Watch Dimension 20's Unsleeping City. Pretty much all you need to know.
StormSaxon
PoGo is definitely still a thing :)
TIL. missed snagging tropius last time i went to italy. :(
Whatsthepawssword
Laat time i went there (2017) i saw 2 giant rats having a fist fight. They were bigger than cats
raticates?
youreathing
If you like big cities it's fine. I live in one. You just get used to the bad, while appreciating the good.
got it. i think it's an YMMV thing, huh?
Compared to other big cities NY is pretty gross though. Especially the way they handle trash.
boywiththebeanz
So you take the good with the bad
Khornight
Yeah this, coming from another big city, the rats and smells aren’t that bad, and Americans idea of traffic is laughable.
semioticmadness
Excellent answer. The rats don’t bother you, the garbage is only bad in the summer. The food is outstanding and the people are polite. YMMV.
Yeah. Close to everything, choices for days, always something to do. But then there's the noise, prices, commotion etc... It's a balance.
fuzzeenavel
Never heard anyone call New Yorkers polite before. They have a reputation of being rude
YouCheckedTheUsernameHaveACookie
They are if you're being an asshole
aprique
Not rude. Busy. Tourists tend to walk/talk/react slowly, and nyc-ers can't slow down.
FukcTedCruz
More like genuine. If ur a cunt they will call u out. Idk if thats rude but i loved the people when i visited but i wasnt acting like a cunt
I mean you’re allowed to prefer NY culture but they’re way more cold and confrontational than Midwest and LA folks
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
No, it’s a lovely city. Has a patina of just the right amount of neglect.
MikeRoedick
StayClassyImgurV2
I live in new York and this is 100% accurate
the way you worded your description is nice.
HillCountryRambler
"Patina" is a good euphemism for grime covered.
GergsJohnson
So eloquent. It's got enough grittiness to make it interesting and exciting. So many great places to walk as well.
"grittiness" brings up an image of sitting on a curb and gargling whisky while smoking cig stubs you found on the road.
WhyCantIHaveADog
That’s how I describe New Orleans. Held together by mold and hope.
That’s...yeah, that’s how I’d describe it. If NYC is “the city” in your mind, some of the more recently developed cities feel almost...
...like walking around in a newly built house. Nobody has lived there yet. NYC doesn’t have the history of London or Rome, but it feels...
...like it’s been lived in, and lived in hard. It’s like a used minivan, it smells a little funky, there’s something sticky over there...
...but it gets the job done and the fact that it’s running at all tells you somebody, once, loved it.
Leeloothedog
I think you suffer from Stockholm syndrome. only time I have ever had culter shock was flying into NYC. rats in vending machines. subway 1/
culture
That's ab ig asumption. People can behold the exact same thing and still have a wildly differing experience.
ate my money. junkies scamming people. bus coming to get us broke down. homeless eating food out of a trash can. all this from the 2/
airport to the bus terminal. 3/3
itsameglassologybyt
could use A LOT more nature, to look good. Reminds me of Wall-E... instead of piles of cubes, it's piles of crumbling structure.
BadAsprin
I dont even want to fly over it
Kerpwangitang
I think I can see myself having a meltdown in traffic on the harlem River drive
badmojo42
Would never live there but damn is it fun to go. Late night pizza. Bars open until 4am. Little Italy. Meet people from all over the world
restingduckface
What you've got there is an infestation
Vortex153
Looks more like an infestation
chapitaine
Does it?
immunity
I'll take a peaceful green suburb any day. Give me a neighborhood like something out of Better Living Through Chemistry.
TheEliteInvaderZim
I've lived there. It's not bad. Better than florida.
Sausageneek
People thought I was crazy when I told them it stank after travelling from Newark to JFK on a layover.
DanielTheCanadian
somewhere in that picture. 30 homeless people are taking poops on the street
ihavethisusernameinparticular
That’s a lot of mould on the sandwich.
vladrichdemaclant
I can't see much nature there. So, no, doesn't look good to me.
jabubub
I hate it. I can already feel the aggressions from everyone making their way through those streets.
Joeefx
Right now every crime known to man is happening there. lol
Liquidspine69
Looks like cancer!
Jaqdakloun
Doesn't look very inviting.
URNSHOW
Everything looks good from a distance. Cities, cars,.... women....
Chaffedgazell
I took my kid to collage and had to go south and see new york, I will remember that trip for life. Great city.
Chaffedgazell
Was there on trash day too. Thousands of bag of garbage but no smell and I didnt see rats at all. You want rats Chicago owns the crown.
Chaffedgazell
Pizza sucks. Shock to me that the pizza sucked.
meencontreconunarusaquesabiaquenataliaoreiroerauruguaya
That looks good for you???
ididthisforthedogs
WTF is everyone shitting on NYC for?? Your title should read it is one of the most diverse cities on the planet, with the best food and
ididthisforthedogs
music. Imgur jumping on the hate bandwagon when most people haven't lived here SMH. Do you live here OP?
tomatoboy
It is trendy in certain circles to mock NYC, LA, SF, etc... at the moment.
Imalwaysready
So you've never made fun of Texas or Florida without living there, then?
ididthisforthedogs
No, I don't shit on cities or states like that. Especially when I know these areas encompass millions of people.
ididthisforthedogs
Definitely not saying I'm a saint. I'm just way more specific when it comes to trashing a person or place
Imalwaysready
As a Texan, that's a shame because we are ripe for parody, satire, insult, and shame. You're missing out.
notyetadaddy
NYC isn’t for everyone. Not everyone is cut out for life here. But many of us who live here absolutely love it, myself included.
notyetadaddy
Can’t imagine living anywhere else.
Legpoker
As most third world countries do.
FourLegsGood
I think it's metaphor.
lordfwahfnah
brusilov
Oooh, buurnnn. Wait, plz don't burn... it's been through enough, ohh the humanity
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
KleptoKea
Third world countries are doing better than this shithole called USA.
fotopoulosgeorge124
Are you French ?
KleptoKea
No?
RidingDragonsWithoutALicense
BahamutBBob
TIL the US was not part of the Cold War group containing the US and allies.
SergeiBoobtitsky
icounttopotato
With a GDP of $1.5 trillion, NYC is in the top 20 economies in the world. Problem is very poor leadership in the city. Not that bad though.
causamortis1
There are countries smaller than NYC. IT needs to be a larger governing body. The whole metro area has more people than 150 other countries
broverdose
Nah you couldn't pay me to live in the states lol
LakeOfPeace
1 trillion of that is split between 30ish people.
cwbyboots
GDP?
icounttopotato
The city i mean, the leaders are that bad. Even worse actually. De Blasio is the worst joke ever, no punch line except for his face.
CommodusLeitdorf
Not like he could do much with the Governor having Veto over it, and we all know how fucked he is.
flavivsaetivs
Looks like Andrew Yang might win the mayoral race, I'm not saying he'll succeed, but at least he actually gives a fuck.
texasfoodman
Is there a mayor you would ever be happy with?
icounttopotato
Yes, at this point I'd settle for almost anyone but De Blasio. What a catastrophe.
texasfoodman
I’m for hire. I’d start by demolishing half the buildings to put trees up. Sound good? I can start next Tuesday.
Markamanic
Now extrapolate that issue throughout the entirety of the US government and you get... Well, the US.
GoodGuyGonzo
Switzerland is a third world country by definition
DropDeadFread
By old definition, not colloquial.
Bigbolgnasandwich
He means cause we're a shithole.
Cutwail
Wearing a gucci belt.
scpredmage
While term "third world countries" was coined in the Cold War to refer to non-aligned countries... 1/2
itrynottocommentbutyoumakemecringe
Yes. We know. Thanks.
scpredmage
If someone is calling Switzerland a third world country "by definition" when there's a post-Cold War official definition...
scpredmage
...and accompanying official list of third world countries that doesn't include it, then clearly "we" don't know.
scpredmage
...since the end of the Cold War it has come to mean "developing" nations, which Switzerland is decidedly NOT. 2/2
Abfallkonto
Fun fact for me is that this implies the existence of second world countries, which is a term we need to resurrect
Abfallkonto
I mean, “implies”. In fact there are defined second world countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
ObliqueRay
And has Spiderman, don't forget Spiderman.
JasonThorn
LloydBergenson
Anyone who thinks New York is more charming by air has never walked its streets or 150+ historic districts.
Murmull
I mean everyone has their own taste in aesthetics. But damn to me that looks like a nightmare.
KleptoKea
Same to me. The grid-like layout is so depressing, as is the lack of greenery. Plus, it's that shithole country USA, so fuck that anyway.
IWasACatAllAlong
That isn't a shot from bladerunner 2077, or whatever the fuck number they put on it?
PleasantPeasantPheasant
It looks like a 3D render of a statistics map.
CrossEyedPigeonToed
Coruscant?
Markamanic
It's just so many goddamned people.
barnwolf
The big ass park in the middle is kinda cool.
TablesBobbyTables
For me, that looks like a dream come true.
kikichunt
It's pretty WOW from the ground. And so many great songs, too . . .
ShadeEmberi
why do you think aliens keep trying to blow it up !
HandoB4Javert
akom
I enjoy visiting big cities but I'd never live in one by choice. They just seem so chaotic to me.
Airwolfen
Went to Tokyo in 2019. Impressive place for a vacation. But no way I would want to live there for years on end.
Trustmeimadogtor
Same. Cool to visit, but I would never want to live in a huge city.
YOURFRIEND2010
People like you and me built that thing. Stone by stone, over a hundred years. Staggering to think about. Ineffably beautiful
Bigemedic
They just kept building up. And up. And up. Amazing.
LateNightBunnyParty
Right? Same here. I had to live in a town once. Had neighbors' houses like 25' from my own. No thank you, I'll stick to rural.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
We have too many billions for that to work for everyone. It's not ideal.
LateNightBunnyParty
Nobody said it had to work for everyone. But I personally like rural life.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
That's nice for you. I'm just saying that society has to look at -this- and try to improve on it. That's the future.
LateNightBunnyParty
Mmmkay, well that is a whole different conversation that nobody was even having. So.
vman2000
1st house I owned was a townhouse. Could hear music through the walls. Cars parked in front of my house. Now I have 3+ acres and silence.
LateNightBunnyParty
Nice. It's good to have acreage, isn't it? I wake up to the sounds of roosters and wild birds.
SirGalahadKnight
Same I was a country girl who thought the city looked fascinating, moved to a city & was disturbed how unnaturally crowded & gross it was.
HaloArchitect
I grew up in a small city (250K->500K in about 20 years). I get crazy paranoid walking along 5th Ave in NYC the odd time I visit.
SirGalahadKnight
I grew up in a place 50 population with men women and children all counted. My school was 20 kids teachers and staff together.my class was3
SirGalahadKnight
I almost fainted when I saw my first skyscraper, cried in the glass elevator all the way to the top. Didn’t understand the stop lights.
SirGalahadKnight
Was 3kids but we were all taught in one room.
OmegaKamidake
My closest neighbors for most my life were at least 1 minute walks through the woods. Now living in an apartment complex in the city...
LateNightBunnyParty
My grandparents lived next door when I was a kid, but everyone else was miles away.
LateNightBunnyParty
And by "next door," I mean "a few minutes' walk."
Murmull
Im from rural Iceland whenever im in a city its like my spideysense starts tingling and i just want to GTFO.
HeyQueef
Wretched hive of scum and villainy
MargarineMeadows21
Blades in the Dark?
Murmull
Mostly lower Manhattan tho, they reside in the tall buildings.
FrolickingFrolicking
That part is called Wall Street
rangerryda
The same could be said for Florida.
docneel
Stinks.rats.horrible roads.traffic.AND jazz, theatre, music, restaurants, good and bad people, central park , Life ..loads of it.
railgap
...at any hour of the day
NinjaIsAwesome
Always attacked by aliens.
ididthisforthedogs
BlackCatSerenade99900
Not gonna lie, I miss the hell out of it. Especially the fooooooood. BX represent!!!
stolie
People are leaving NYC in droves
stolie
Lol why the DVs? It's just a fact.
SwampWampa
Too expensive. A friend had a 350sqft apt for $1600. Bad area, smelled, roaches, loud af, and everything was in bad repair and really old.
ChristopherDeConcini
Sounds like most of the "apartments" in my rural/suburban town
SwampWampa
Why live there when you can telework and afford a nice house for that payment.
stolie
I concur.
parabolic000
Stinks, rats, and traffic...You probably wouldn't enjoy Paris.
notabadlyphotoshoppedimageofyourmom
Paris is probably the worst place i've ever been to.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
parabolic000
I wouldn't go that far. Better Paris than really any third-world-country city. It's definitely not as glamorous as made out to be, but...
parabolic000
it's been a while since I've been, and I'd like to give it another go. Even if just for the food.
notabadlyphotoshoppedimageofyourmom
The food was one of the worst parts! Hella expensive and not that great imo.
TheVampireDante
I like Paris when I get to visit, but the drivers can go fuck themselves.
parabolic000
You ever taken a cab in Chennai or Cairo? Ffffuck. Donkey-pulled carts on the raised expressway. Ragpickers in piles in the gutters...
bogie41
I just found were moving there for wife's work in 18 months. Help me get excited!
evilcarp
Tell her its you or the job. There are other women out there who you don't have to follow to hell.
Shamorza
Very friendly governor.
AlfakaGordonShumway
RUN! DON'T STOP!
cyrusjoneslivedforever
Museums. Central Park Zoo. Pizza, hot dogs, gyros. Arthur Ave. Broadway. People watching in the streets.
entercleverusernamehereplease
Hope you weren't too attached to her. You don't have to go.
lujotu
New York really is as lot of fun. Every time ive gone (easily 50 times over the past 20 years) I stumble into a hilariously good time
lujotu
Also, the food is fantastic and endlessly varied. Even shitty little bodegas make fantastic sandwiches, and of course the pizza, the bagels.
langri
You can get nearly any food you could possibly want at any time of the day, easy.
bogie41
Yes!
Drakhma
there are loads of ROUS
Spiked
Since no one has mentioned it yet. The people are actually a plus. You can find nearly any niche. Explore some new groups
poilk91
One of the best ways to enjoy a sunny day is get on the ferry on the east river have some beers and soak in the view get off downtown to eat
Zonino
Broadway!
bogie41
Yes! Tou che!
DecentGatsby
Its an amazing place. I think everyone should live in NYC at least for a short time. You can truly be anyone you want to be there
rando84
One random advantage is automatically having a geographic frame of reference for the 50% of movies/tv shows set in NYC.
SirBillington
As a masshole,
DecentGatsby
Haha Im a Masshole born & raised too
evilcarp
Just ask the Gov of NY!
rando84
The governor lives in Albany.
rando84
You don’t need to live in Manhattan if you don’t want to. The outer boroughs & commuter rail lines range from dense urban to semi-rural (1
poilk91
this is great advice, you can ride a train or subway into downtown/midtown in 30 minutes from all over
rando84
small towns. The amenities are pretty great (bars, restaurants, theaters, museums, etc.) & you can fly anywhere cheap. (2
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
never been to ny, ny. is it really that bad?
evilcarp
I've been to nicer shit holes in third world nations. There are some sites to see but overall it sucks for more than a few days visit.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
so more of a place to visit rather than stay, right?
Byrhtnoth
No. It's a huge metropolitan city that's been around for a couple centuries, so some places are more in need of repair than others, but 1/2
Byrhtnoth
There's more beauty there than decay. And I mean that in terms of people as well as buildings and streets - some of the strangest and 2/3
Byrhtnoth
Most wonderful folks I've met in all of my travels I've met in NY, NY. 3/3
DonkeySauceBukkake
I’ve been once, it was cool but not my cup of tea. I’m southern we smile at each other. No one in New York smiles.
badgerbadgerbadgermushroommushroom
It was like visiting a mud puddle at the end of a sidewalk
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
lol
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
I lived in Manhattan twice for 6 months, once in 2012 & again in 2018. Noticably worse the 2nd time. Angrier, more congested. I blame Uber.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
what's with Uber?
yeahIbreedtreelizards
It was great after guliani cleaned it up before going crazy. It's a mess now. It has everything though. And the best food.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
newb question... NY, NY is just a city in NY right? i mean NY is bigger?
yeahIbreedtreelizards
NY city is the largest city in NY, the state.
MacDaddySmitt
Manhattan is just saturated with a urine smell. No trees anywhere. "Veterans" buggin you for money any time you stop moving
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
why are veterans asking for money? arent they taken care of after their service?
wiltsjunk
It's got amazing energy. So much to do there. In my 20s, I loved visiting Manhattan. But I would never want to live there
DoesItThough
Been to the airport once, with a 8hrs layover... They asked if we wanted the lights off in our little corner so we could sleep!
TheStonedCrafter
As someone born here... I don't even feel like I can afford to live by myself.. everything is stupid expensive. I won't be able to stay here
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
most well known places are like this i think. not sure if the term is "gentrified"?
TheStonedCrafter
Yup. That's it exactly. Anyone that was born here has been priced out by everyone else who wants to come. It's fucking bullshit.
Imalwaysready
Depends. Are you a minority?
yepitspuck
It's amazing, it truly is. Visit if you get the chance. And don't eat anywhere you recognize the name.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
hopefully i get to travel soon. plan to bring my bike and ride all over the N.Am continent.
JerryTheBold
Yes it is, and it's going to get worse now that tax revenue plummeted. Bridges are past their lifespan, as are the subway tracks. The (1/2)
JerryTheBold
MTA mismanaged itself into bankruptcy. The wealth gap is the highest in the country and NYPD basically invented racism. Food is good tho.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
"racism" <- is it a good place for travelers? or better be careful for now?
Ecastillo
nah, it's not that bad. It is terribly expensive though.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
as in prohibitively and unfairly expensive?
carrera9988
which city do you recommend visiting? I am from South America and I plan to visit the north
persianwrangler
If you like cities it is awesome. Most vibrant culture in the US. Lived in the Bronx for 5 years, miss it like crazy.
anitabieror6
ive never been but 2 different friends, told me it smells like pee. another friend lives in Bushwick and she loves it
Evergrey
I quite liked it.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
a sibling went there for some event. he said he liked it too. never been to US though so no idea lol.
Evergrey
It has everything. Even beautiful forest with waterfalls, in central park.
AmericansAreHilarious
It's a big city in the US. what do you expect? First world standards?
poilk91
Also the best city in the US thats why none of us can afford to
AmericansAreHilarious
But you have guns and can shoot each other, and that's something nice, right?
LAMovieDesign
NYC is a great city.
bochikiniki
Fun to visit, but not to live in.
kd7uns
If it were that bad then the rent wouldn't be so crazy high, because people would leave...
MorningMahogany
In Summer all you smell is fermenting homeless piss
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
yikes. does it stick to your clothes? anything done to help the homeless not be homeless anymore?
DeguRatface
Visited it for my first trip to America years ago. 1/10, kinda shit.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
anything noteworthy that cemented a 1/10 stars?
DeguRatface
It was cold, a tiny bit of grit got in my eye and i got the worst infection, rude people, scam artists and badly ignored homeless >
DeguRatface
people freezing to death on the streets... plus ridiculous prices (though i expect that with most big cities anyway), generally. HOWEVER...
DeguRatface
It is worth noting that i am an introvert so part of that may have been on me.
camvani
no
HAVEANOTHERONEOKp
I rather visit Yosemite, too each their own.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
how far is it from NY?
poilk91
peeps from NY like to complain about NY as much as people who arent but its mostly tongue and cheek, but there is def stinky places and rats
Superchief86
I had 7 nights there ten years ago. It was a great time. The Aussie dollar was worth more than the USD at the time too, so that was a bonus.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
no drop bears in NY, huh?
yourcreepyunclefriendly
Pretty much all cities stink, have terrible roads, traffic, and lots of rats. Way she goes
PieAndPunch
New York is almost like its own world. Nowhere else in the country is like it
tcdriver
Aint that the truth....I love NY....I HATE NY....I MISS NY....
gonzar09
Live in LI and son of a Bronxman. Some sections are better than others, but it's a helluva place to visit every now and then.
Lambast
NY smells more like piss than any other city I've been too, and I've been to Paris.
manamongstyou
Nah. It's not everyone's cupatea but if you like big cities it's awesome.
AriBoBari
Wouldn’t live anywhere else. I love it here.
cryptonat
Worth a visit once. Typical tourist distractions. Never ever live there. Its a trap that you'll probably never escape. So expensive.
poilk91
If its too expensive doesn't that make it hard to stay and easy to leave
cryptonat
How can you leave if you can't save up the money due to being trapped by high living costs?
poilk91
??? The same way you leave any city, the real problem is all cities are expensive but thats where the jobs are
GriffinMann41
We've visited a couple times, and IMO it's treated kinda harshly. At least, from our experience. Nice people, nice food, but expensive.
PimpinKen
I loved it
upthehillandtotheright
No
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
danke
Imherefortheanimalpics
NYC has a different energy. All of old history, cultures, present times, grime and success mixed together. Mever know what's behind a corner
poilk91
and the best egg bacon cheese bagels in the country
Imherefortheanimalpics
Im not part taking in this debate! All bagels are good!
poilk91
haha true, every city has the best bagels for the people who live there
remarks61693
I'm from NYC originally. I feel like it's harder for transplants and visitors because the appeal of NYC is being from there
remarks61693
There's a certain hometown pride that makes it liveable. For me, being there during 9/11 is a big part of it.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
oh didn't realize it... 9/11 was in NY!
Grahamalam
Born and raised. No it's not.
PooPculture
It's all of that and so much more. It's everything at once. Nowhere else in the world is quite like it, both the good and bad.
ezzmann
No
ahnicemarmot
No, it's not that bad.
Sugarbritches21
I went for a weekend trip there. It smells like trash and piss, ungodly amount of homeless people, solicitors trying to sell you mix tapes
z0MgIrt3hSt0N3CRv5h3rFr0mt3x4S
I went for the first time 2 years ago and one thing you don't get in the movies is the smell. Combine urine with exhaust fumes and weed.
sightlab
The only think I loved more than living there was moving away from there. It’s a fun city though.
TheKingRamen
No
mrbitterness
It’s the best city in the world.
Kuuppajumi
Why?
mrbitterness
It's a hard question to answer, it's a special place. My #1 answer would be access. Access to cultures, food, airports, beaches, mountains,
Kuuppajumi
Fair enough, thanks. A lot of cities around the world do have same things though. Reason for me asking is that I really didn't like the..
Kuuppajumi
..place, but I really like some old continent cities (Rome, Paris, London) and also enjoyed Toronto.. but NY for some reason isn't for me.
mrbitterness
jobs, education, languages, entertainment. There's nothing you can't access here by train. How cool is that?
Gonz15
The trash on the street is what really shocked me. They really don’t have alleys. So that’s where the trash goes to get picked up.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
ohhh so something like wrong city planning? are we talking about mountains of trash?
Gonz15
I mean they are pretty big piles. Trash gets picked up constantly. You are always side stepping it and it’s just always there
LloydBergenson
No. It's one of the oldest, most historic cities in the US with incredibly charming neighborhoods, parks, restaurants, museums, etc.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
TIL about being one of the oldest!
LloydBergenson
Founded in 1624, so older than Boston! We have Dutch farmhouses dating back to the 1650s!
CrazyCatLad
Expensive, loud, smelly, horrible to drive in. Would never want to live there or any city. But it still is worth visiting for a day.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
is it a walk-friendly place?
CrazyCatLad
Eh, depends how far you're going. Everytime I go some sidewalks are closed so you'll have to reroute to the other side or something.
Icantbelieveitsnotbutlers
Only if you're some kind of bumpkin
ComcastLover
Trash in the street
DemSumBigAssRidges
It depends on your definition of bad. If traffic is your definition, every major city sucks. But, imo, NYC is up its own ass.
josebornedumont1
Beats Vegas!!! That's for sure with the quality food and people!
Brience
Love living here. Been my home for five years.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
what was the hardest and easiest adjustments you had to make?
TheDanWithNoName
I've lived here for 20yrs and I love it.Also lived in 4 countries in 10 cities (lived in, not visited) & I cant imagine being anywhere else.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
that is nice. the place grew on you.
bendistraw
Strikes and gutters. Way better than it was. The people, art, and opportunities are amazing!!
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
strikes? as in people going on strike?
bendistraw
Strikes and gutters as in “good and bad”.
tjinme
No, it's worse. Most dysfunctional city I've ever known.
Kartoffelpatata
Moved here 5 years ago. Every city has parts that suck and parts that are great. NY has both in abundance.
ididthisforthedogs
Yes! Lot's of beauty though lived here for 6 years. Just renegotiated my rent down 17% because of the pandemic.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
gratz!
DarkHollowDulcimers
2plus2is5
Hey neighbor...
DarkHollowDulcimers
parkerh17
Most big cities smell, Vegas is terrible outside the hotels.
EnergyFiend
I think it's a great place to live for a few years while you're young, but the pace takes its toll. All I miss is the food.
RadonGaming
No it's not. Vegas on the other hand... Cesspool
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
never been to vegas... for some reason vegas brings up images of desert and tanks.
ididthisforthedogs
No dude, not bad at all. Some of the best food and music in the world. I have been living all over the city the past 6 years. With a pop
ididthisforthedogs
of over 8million you will have good and bad instances. It' inevitable.
StarTrekandGin
Nice to visit. Would never live there. Infrastructure is terrible.
poilk91
What do you mean? Where is it better, I live here because its the only US city I dont need a damn car
textilelover
You don't need one in Boston. It's much better to not have one in Boston. I'd rather drive in NYC than Boston any day of the week.
poilk91
My brother lives in boston, its nice its a small city so its easy to get around but its subway coverage isn't as good
StarTrekandGin
I was really surprised by the subway. For a very very rich city, it didn’t reflect the life above.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
is there a US city that is bike friendly?
poilk91
a few smaller cities. I get everywhere on my bike in NYC but only certain neighborhoods are particularly bike friendly
RamenWithExtraNoodles
Smells like piss but it has nice things. Worth visiting at least once
DarkRedCape
Went to the US some years ago. JFK airport looks like a police station from a run down neighbourhood in a poor quality 80s TV show.
haitamimama
Nearly every airport looks like that. Except Denver. Middle of prairie with a cursed horse statue. Weird but a nice state
llgghh17
No one is defending our airports... :-) But, it's a major infrastructure project right now. Visit in 24 months.
DarkRedCape
My connecting flight was actually at Newark airport, and that place was amazing. Such a nice, clean and modern place. Relaxing too.
elmonosabio
No. It’s not that bad.
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danke
mrbitterness
I’ve lived here 10 years and couldn’t imagine living anywhere else.
nightrodrider
It's not as bad as they make it, it's different for sure, but access and convinience is amazing, living in the boroughs is best of both....
nightrodrider
Worlds.
nightrodrider
It can get expensive though, especially to live nicely,so either you have a well paying career or your a young student who is flexible
StorytellingSalem
No. Some ppl have a sick fetish with talking shit about things and finding joy in that. Dont worry about those cunts. Ny is beautiful; go v
StorytellingSalem
Visit* when the rona shuts down.
texasfoodman
It seems like it doesn’t have a great tree to building ratio to me.
StorytellingSalem
Go to a great tree to building area then if thats what youre looking for. But dont compare fish to mountains then complain about the mountai
StorytellingSalem
Mountain’s lack of ability to swim
JerryTheBold
Some folk who don't live here love to romanticize it after watching Sex in the City, but it's nothing like that. Please visit though!
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
yah. hopefully this pandemic disappears soon :( i want to travel.
DeltaLaw
I love NYC, couldn't get enough of it while I was in NJ. But I didn't live there, can't speak to that.
Ratufa
No. If you’re going as a tourist, you’d be an idiot to drive there. Subway, taxis, & walking are all options, depending on your location.
ThickTomato
worth a visit, especially for the museums, get a slice of pizza and hot dog while there, look at central park, and then you can go home
poilk91
man if thats what you did you really missed out
ThickTomato
I'm not far, what should I do next time
poilk91
I like to get on the east river ferry on the upper east side and ride it downtown with some beer then get lunch on stone street
poilk91
I love villages, Going into smaller theaters to see shows or small clubs for jazz. Go chill in Brooklyn and astoria for great food
ThickTomato
I did ride the subway on my own. Saw the freedom tower
TheHorseDivorce
I had a job freestyle rapping for a bus tour on 8th ave. A man who was day drinking took my mic and yelled at the bus. It was 2Chainz
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sorry... 2chainz?
TheHorseDivorce
I don't know if this is cool or good or bad but it's kind of what makes new york's special
CowardTheCouragelyCat
That's a great story actually
justarocknroller
It gives me a headache after a few days, but it's a super cool town
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
how come? too busy?
tomatoboy
It’s sensory overload. Very loud. Bright lights at night. Lots of motion. Lots of smells (ranging from good to wretched).
tomatoboy
I have the same problem. I can only tolerate big cities like NYC for maybe 24-72 hours.
SteveO
The smell, the noise. It's crowded
The5lacker
The rats seem to like it
evilcarp
I thought the rat moved to Florida?
LetsShall
Every time I visited I was honestly horrified by how much trash was on the streets and how dirty the subway stations were.
camvani
must have been in the 80"s
Gonz15
Same. I work in Chicago and visiting clients would always comment how clean the city was. I didn’t really understand that until I visited NY
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
been reading about trash... is the place really full of trash?
rawlingtonnn
Moved to NYC from west palm beach Florida 5 years ago. It’s an amazing place to live.
JerryTheBold
That tells me you're well off or are ignoring the awfulness around you. Please sign up here to volunteer: www.newyorkcares.org
LeakyBunghole
Be less of a cunt
EnergyFiend
I did that same move after college too! Best thing ever, but the pace wore me down after 8 yrs. Moved to CA, now I think I'm home.
PowayMermaid
Congrats on escaping Florida!! ?
eldooterino
Every major city is that bad. This one just happens to have Broadway, the Met, Lincoln Center, MoMA, etc.
FnordGallop
Nah, most major cities have working infrastructure and decent public sanitation. Even in the US this is standard. Chicago dealt with
FnordGallop
its downtown traffic by jacking all the buildings up two stories and having additional layers of infrastructure for city services.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
what's with the steam anyway? NY brings up image of a Steam City to me :/
yepitspuck
And the Cloisters!
Tforme22
And the library!!
llgghh17
Literally anything you could want, somewhere in the city, available 24 hours a day.
chuckles11
How could you leave out the AMNH you uncultured swine
eldooterino
Lack of coffee. And the AMNH is the only one I have a membership for, out of the lot
nicolaisheen
Shame on the 2 of you for ignoring the Whitney
tomatoboy
It’s a big city, with all that entails. If you’re the sort of person who likes cities, you’ll probably love NYC. For me personally...
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"with all that entails" <- i guess this is it. it's a mix of different colors and a broad brush wouldn't really do it justice.
tomatoboy
...I love to visit, but it’s too chaotic for me in larger doses. A lot of the complaints people make about NYC are overblown, while...
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maybe NY is not for me... i get overwhelmed really fast esp i spend days outdoors doing outdoorsy stuff.
tomatoboy
...similarly some of the romantic idealization is also overblown. It’s a cool place with a lot of good food, interesting stuff to do...
tomatoboy
...and sort of a patina of being lived in some more recently developed big cities lack, populated by interesting if a bit brusque people.
tomatoboy
Is it dirtier than say, Singapore or Toronto? Hell yeah. Are the subway stations funky as hell? Yes, but they work in spite of it.
AeonQuasars
Decent enough to visit. I could never live there though.
weirdisgood
Thats what i say about PA, decent to visit, but could never live there. home depot is 40 minutes away (rural)
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same thing i say about zurich. great place but a bit too sleepy for me.
TwentyEightCharacterUsername
Depends where. Either it’s an okay place to live but absurdly expensive, or a shit place to live and still pretty fuckin expensive.
MackinawPeach
Told myself that all my life being from a small town. Moved up 5 years ago and love it. Pre-rona of course.
llgghh17
Agreed- Came from Kansas/Oklahoma in 2009. Lived in Brooklyn since (Can see my place in this photo!) I love NYC.
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thanks. my only knowledge of it is that there are lots of pokemons in central park (?) back when PoGo was still a thing.
NotNotDeadpool
Watch Dimension 20's Unsleeping City. Pretty much all you need to know.
StormSaxon
PoGo is definitely still a thing :)
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
TIL. missed snagging tropius last time i went to italy. :(
Whatsthepawssword
Laat time i went there (2017) i saw 2 giant rats having a fist fight. They were bigger than cats
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raticates?
youreathing
If you like big cities it's fine. I live in one. You just get used to the bad, while appreciating the good.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
got it. i think it's an YMMV thing, huh?
ComcastLover
Compared to other big cities NY is pretty gross though. Especially the way they handle trash.
boywiththebeanz
So you take the good with the bad
Khornight
Yeah this, coming from another big city, the rats and smells aren’t that bad, and Americans idea of traffic is laughable.
semioticmadness
Excellent answer. The rats don’t bother you, the garbage is only bad in the summer. The food is outstanding and the people are polite. YMMV.
youreathing
Yeah. Close to everything, choices for days, always something to do. But then there's the noise, prices, commotion etc... It's a balance.
fuzzeenavel
Never heard anyone call New Yorkers polite before. They have a reputation of being rude
YouCheckedTheUsernameHaveACookie
They are if you're being an asshole
aprique
Not rude. Busy. Tourists tend to walk/talk/react slowly, and nyc-ers can't slow down.
FukcTedCruz
More like genuine. If ur a cunt they will call u out. Idk if thats rude but i loved the people when i visited but i wasnt acting like a cunt
fuzzeenavel
I mean you’re allowed to prefer NY culture but they’re way more cold and confrontational than Midwest and LA folks
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
No, it’s a lovely city. Has a patina of just the right amount of neglect.
MikeRoedick
StayClassyImgurV2
I live in new York and this is 100% accurate
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
the way you worded your description is nice.
HillCountryRambler
"Patina" is a good euphemism for grime covered.
GergsJohnson
So eloquent. It's got enough grittiness to make it interesting and exciting. So many great places to walk as well.
5GFPLaqZ4nAy2QwrqOEI
"grittiness" brings up an image of sitting on a curb and gargling whisky while smoking cig stubs you found on the road.
WhyCantIHaveADog
That’s how I describe New Orleans. Held together by mold and hope.
tomatoboy
That’s...yeah, that’s how I’d describe it. If NYC is “the city” in your mind, some of the more recently developed cities feel almost...
tomatoboy
...like walking around in a newly built house. Nobody has lived there yet. NYC doesn’t have the history of London or Rome, but it feels...
tomatoboy
...like it’s been lived in, and lived in hard. It’s like a used minivan, it smells a little funky, there’s something sticky over there...
tomatoboy
...but it gets the job done and the fact that it’s running at all tells you somebody, once, loved it.
Leeloothedog
I think you suffer from Stockholm syndrome. only time I have ever had culter shock was flying into NYC. rats in vending machines. subway 1/
Leeloothedog
culture
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
That's ab ig asumption. People can behold the exact same thing and still have a wildly differing experience.
Leeloothedog
ate my money. junkies scamming people. bus coming to get us broke down. homeless eating food out of a trash can. all this from the 2/
Leeloothedog
airport to the bus terminal. 3/3