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Dede Ricks is the second Black trans woman killed in Detroit in a month - LGBTQ Nation
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/09/dede-ricks-second-black-trans-woman-killed-detroit-month/
circlebreaker
"A motive has not been revealed." I wonder what the motive could possibly be...
trippingthelightfantastic
QueefMalone
I will never understand the fear and hatred in some people's hearts.
jaggcomputing5
Yep, this is the kind of tyranny the Second Amendment was coined for.
MapleSyrupMafia
One of the solution is simple... ANY politician that incite violence against citizens should be arrested... starting with one of the >
MapleSyrupMafia
biggest pos constantly smearing LGBT... Perjurty Traitor Grease.
brianBugCat
Sounds like Detroit to me.
JamproGamer
Why did this get ? voted? Detroit is above the national average for crime in various categories!
ObliqueRay
Ok, I'd like to hear the motive first though.
Whoduhfuqcares
Why is this down voted? It's asking for motive... Wtf? Echo Chamber?
Therealunsane
How is that "second degree"?
kristProblemLord
In 2016 I went to a transgender remembrance event. I was shocked at how frequently they are murdered. It's insane. The only demographic I
kristProblemLord
could find in the US that experiences a higher murder rate was native women.
MoonQueenie
Yeah trans people, mainly trans women are 4x more likely to be SA'ed and or met by violence and murdered.
AroAce
Sadly these graphs also do not include many that get misgendered or are just not out.
aslum
at least they fuckin' arrested the guy.
Freakydarling93
We, as queer people, stand on the shoulders of trans women of colour.
FeifonGitz
♡
WisconsinHome
There’s two murders, damn. Was sort of hoping they hadn’t gotten the killer already. God this pisses me off
Imadethisaccounttopost
WTF Detroit & Michigan!
Arsikere
yeah well sorry but considering the homicide rate in that city i wouldn't say this is anything targeted. it's ust Detroit
TheMrrigan
Even based on Detroit's homicide rate, two trans women being killed in a month is disproportionate, statistically
dortmunder
Statistically, it could also be a coincidence. If it were 2 each month then maybe not.
Kevinbfree
That's horrible.
Munchman347
There are Chuds who become enraged when they find the woman they lusted after used to be male. They feel they were 'tricked into being Gay'.
Snooj
"A motive has not been revealed." Yeah, but we can guess with pretty good accuracy.
legacyweekly
*~*fragile masculinity*~*
Whoduhfuqcares
But that isn't a good thing to do. Guess and assume breeds fear and hate. Stick to facts
silakkasimo
So it's better to be black trans woman and you're less likely to be killed in Detroit, if it's only two this month so far?
DidItForScience
I bet it's pretty high if you compared it to the population of black trans women in Detroit.
MmmmmSoup
Why are Americans so afraid of people who are different
PreciousPotato
Why do people even care and hate so much? They are just people…
5hortBu5
In 33 states, including MI, the "trans panic" defense is legal, viable, and effective. Call your legislators.
5hortBu5
Bizarkly
Perhaps -- after the MI Supreme Court's recent holding that Elliot-Larsen *does* protect gender orientation -- it *really should not be*...
Xenarion
Why the hell does this have a transparent background?
PicassoCT
Fragile masculinity: When you hit on her, find out and are afraid "to life that down"
FarceMajeure
Time to start throwing bricks
FrankensteinsMonstersSweatyBallBag
Michigan is pretty progressive but we got a few million fucksticks dragging us backwards
LaffertyDanie1
I've been to Detroit many times but ventured upstate for the first time last year and it might as well be Mississippi
Alavar
Michigan. The more North you go the more South you get lol
SomeDetroitGuy
Petoskey is rather liberal, too.
LostScientist
Just went through there and that was my impression of it. I did really like the scenery though.
MajorasFlipFlops
Truuuuuue. I do love the UP though. Just because of the scenery.
sauronater
Marquette is a solid place. I didn't see any trump stuff in the UP, but a fair bit in northern Michigan
Bizarkly
Or you could just step over the border *cough* Indiana *cough* and get there *a lot* faster...
ButtonsAreForPushing
Yup. I moved up north because of the beauty. I’m moving farther north to get away from the people.
m4uboy
i have a feeling the killers are from downriver or fuckin sterling hgts or some shit.
sauronater
Yeah, and the GOP governor nominee is fucking crazy
b0Bm3h
Hoping her audio clips of no exception really kills the race for her.
Bizarkly
Good ol' 'Two-door' Dixon -- and nobody gets to use the *front* door...
MajorasFlipFlops
Vote to keep big Gretchen!
joshshello
Doing the best she can to help the morons of our state. Despite death threats and attempted kidnapping
MajorasFlipFlops
I think she has done a fantastic job.
joshshello
I will vote for her and anyone she endorses
skapanda616
coothlesscthulhu
GiveYourBallsATug69
Feels like that reads a little too much like "good guy with a gun".
coothlesscthulhu
That's def a fair conclusion. I think it's more "civil war hunting people down" type scene instead of bubba sheepdog concealing a revolver.
ForkForkFork
The neat thing is you don’t have to be trans to heed this call!
CheeseBakedCrouton
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. The queers can’t be harmed if the leftists are armed.
coothlesscthulhu
SeeShark
That only works if we're going to go to civil war. On a day-to-day basis, guns make the people carrying them MORE at risk of death.
GiveYourBallsATug69
ELI5 the logic on this. You're that armed leftist walking on the street, you hear bangs, turn around and see a transwoman got shot. >
GiveYourBallsATug69
> How do you use your gun to un-shoot her exactly? Adding more guns to this shit equation will not have a positive outcome.
CheeseBakedCrouton
You can’t undo bullet wounds but you can prevent the body count from increasing. It’s not about what happened. It’s about what will.
butthurtnevergetsbetter
Just trying to understand how senseless it is that a group with so many lost to suicide is also a target for bigoted murder.
Whoduhfuqcares
This was not a targeted killing.... Be at peace
TheMouseOfMadness
It's almost like harassing people, assaulting them, killing them, openly bragging that you want to hunt them for sport causes suicide
lostpasswordforaccountsentaticketishouldbebacksoononmymainsoon
i am a transwoman and i am terrified. and my heart hurts thinking of my fallen fellow sisters
Whoduhfuqcares
You shouldn't be terrified. You are not targeted. If you feel targeted, that is targeted bullshit you are seeing. Don't fret
irislovesneko
Same girl. It’s rough. Anytime I go on vacation I’m anxious that being in a different area, enjoyable to cis peeps might kill me :(
freckledkink
I'm terrified for all of you, too. The laws, the citizens.... I sent my daughter some non-lethal protection when I found out she was walking
freckledkink
Home in the middle of the night from work. I don't care if it's 15 minutes and a "safe" area. It just takes one asshole.
b0Bm3h
Talked to a lady from a dating site and she wanted to be a nurse, but is so afraid she would never be accepted.
b0Bm3h
It always saddens me to know how much the hate is keep great people down and out of making us all better <3
PreciousPotato
My aunt is a transwoman as well. I can’t stand her, she’s sooo easily offended, it’s hard to have a conversation with her. But nobody /1
acuteavocado7
it can be hard to not be offended by things when uve spent most of ur life being constantly abused, insulted, and demeaned for being queer
PreciousPotato
ever said that all homosexuals and transpeople are wise and kind and lovely. They’re just people, dammit! No matter what’s your gender or /2
PreciousPotato
sexual orientation, you’re allowed to be annoying arseholes as anyone else. Definitely not a reason you should be scared for your life. /3
PreciousPotato
I wish you all the best. ?
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TheMayorOfTittyCity
Was she killed because she was Trans, or because she lived in Detroit? I think that distinction is important when discussing solutions.
JamproGamer
Confused. If a trans person was killed in Chihuahua Mexico it's always going to be because their trans versus where they were.
awesomecat42
If she was the second black trans woman killed in Detroit this month by chance, then holy shit the murder rate must be insane.
doyouevenrobot
IIRC Detroit is still pretty bad in the murder department.
criticalma55
It’s Detroit. One murder per day is a slow day for them….
TheMayorOfTittyCity
It is
ztygs
It is pretty damn bad in Detroit if the stats are true.
mowware
Detroit averages about 1 murder per day
TheMayorOfTittyCity
In data there is an adage that Two doesnt make a pattern. Lots of random things happen twice. With a murder a day it doesnt seem unlikely
TheMayorOfTittyCity
If there were two guys named Greg killed in a month, you probably wouldnt think anything of it. Just coincidence and lots of murders.
awesomecat42
People named greg are way more common than black trans women. Either it's an anomaly, they were targeted, or murder to WAY too common.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Maybe, id have to see the stats. I work with one Greg and 2 black Trans women. The point remains.
SankariSuomi
It is: https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/murder-rate-by-city
Hyzenthlay021
Damn, only 3rd? Where's that American competitive spirit ?
SankariSuomi
Rookie numbers! :P
criticalma55
You ever been to St. Louis or Baltimore? Detroit may have massive scary abandoned areas, but those cities are just gauntlets all around….
Hyzenthlay021
All three as a truck driver. all bad, but Detroit scares me way more.
CaptProfDrMrTaycoJrSrEsqTheThird
To be fair they haven't released a motive and allota people get shot in detroit it may not have been targeted
AlpacaFarms
It's not reassuring even if this murder isn't related to her being trans though, the murder rate of trans vs cis women is disturbing.
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Karilyn
Detroit pop 672k. Murder rate 40.4/100k. About 272 murders/year, 5 per week. So the 2 out of 15. So very disproportionately high.
ZoidbergIsGreat
Certainly not impossible. Doesn't change the fact that this is a marginalized group and it very well might have been
WarKittyKat
There's also systemic issues making it more likely for trans people to need to live in dangerous areas.
ZoidbergIsGreat
This is also a very good point. And systems like the police also can carry inherent bias against bipoc and LGBTQ communities
Dimension09
And 77% of Detroit is black. They lump as many titles as they can together for a headline as they can to make it stand out
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
But only 0,4 % of peoole are trans. So it may be on accident but I don't believe so. The Aggression against trans people is soaring high. :(
TheMrrigan
While entirely possible, let's do some napkin math to see why this might be troubling. Murder rate in Detroit is a bit less than one a day.
TheMrrigan
This is based on 328 murders in 2020. Trans people are about 1% of the total pop by most accepted stats. So we should expect, statistically,
TheMrrigan
One in every hundred murder victims to be trans. 2 trans people murdered in a month is >6x that rate. That's rough math and not super
TheMrrigan
Accurate to how statistics work, and it could still be by chance. However, there has been a virulent wave of anti-trans rhetoric recently
TheMrrigan
And trans people provably face higher chances of being the victims of violent crime than the average person.
Hyzenthlay021
Upvoted for doing the math, but do you have sources on that 1%?
ArchMagos
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ this source says around 1.4% with about 1 in 5 under 17
TheMrrigan
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ according to this it's actually <1%, tho I'm dubious since
TheMrrigan
My impression is that trans people may be statistically undercounted due to survey methodology and other factors
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
Source I found says more they're about 0,4 % of population. Making a probably hate crime more likely. +
Hyzenthlay021
< .5%. Changes the math a lot. But not the human cost. Interesting study. Raises some questions for me. Thanks for posting.