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JadawinUK
PIANU REEVES!
Stalkedpython
SpecialMrQtip
I'm gay and as soon as they added the Q+ I was lost, if you really care if your letter is up there you are a sensitive baby who needs help
ChrisTallant
But it looks like someone tried to spell LGBTQ and then had a sudden bowling ball drop on their keyboard. Or genitals. Or both.
OddOod
LGBTetc. has always been a favorite of mine
bmulcahy
You mean LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ?
You forgot the +. You leave out tens of people when you leave out the +.
36roentgen
Lemon, Gum, Butt, Tutu, Tits, Quitter, Quidditch, Peeing, Individual, Anamorphic, Nuance, Union, Plus
When I was young I went through a peeing phase, but as an adult I've been pretty much tits.
Ah, a fellow LGBTTQQPIANU+
RoovyRoo
OMGWTFBBQ
MrPeebles
You forgot the GRASS
Rosie2003
Oh man, that takes me back
ErinFromTheOffice
LGBTQRSTFU
lHaveAConfession
I think all the new sexualities and genders are hurting this generation.
itsjustjake
Please don't let those lunatics fuck it up for the rest of us.
copingcabana
Reminds me of a town in Arizona: Tlaquepaque.
purplevolta
1/2 as a bisexual person who believes in equal rights for all.Fuckin' liberal oversensitive-bullfuckin'-social-justice-victim-complex-having
2/2 You're the most insidious bastards I've ever seen, everything you stand for is a spit in the face of those who fought for queer rights!
VeiweroftheVoid
What is that? A cheat code to a video game?
DisgruntledFerret
I enjoy a good BLGT sandwich, but people say it's a waste of good guac.
Yojoo
I understand the desire to not be mislabeled, but at a certain point you're just undermining the movement's ability to be taken seriously.
Spankywylde
I believe this would count as a from of Feature Creep.
Kittynomnoms
For a group that originally hated being forced into boxes and labeled, they sure are making a lot of tiny boxes to force themselves into.
JessicaRabbitWhoCollectsBadHabits
Well put.
griffonsgalore
I agree. I never really felt a part of the community anyways - I don't fit their "stereotype" and am rather embarrassed at the extremists.
whatsbuttsandcoconuts
I guess a Gay Barbecue would be a LGBBBQ
Amartini89
Also known as Brunch
iamthisguy247
And a gay sandwich might be a LGBBLT.
MeAndJulio
ThatWhichRemains
LOLOMGWTGDAIRYQUEEN, LOLLGBBtheQ
Stuebydoo
BYOBB
slugworth70
SBBQ
Eclaircissement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m6Blqs0IgY
FlockOfSeagulls25
Oh hi Mike Pence
whitter86
LGBTSSSBBQ = Lesbian gay bi trans super sexual sex bbq
DaierMune
Why not just call it the Human Sexuality Spectrum, or something?
playingdead2022
there just making shit up now
prepareyourbutt
Always seemed weird to me that a group which stood for sexual freedom would be so anal about individual labeling
TheyCallMeCaptain
Well, I don't think all of them like anal.
rikkipatterson
It doesn't matter to anyone anymore.
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
It's a typo. Meant to be LGBTQ&PIANO+. I support it. Pianos are tragically misrepresented.
VoxOfVoice
it's actually supposed to be LGABCDEFHIJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ
Drhoges
Odonpiano
eclect0
I'm transposed.
Exactually
Sometimes they're out of tune and need a specialist
CorgiCircus
OatieG
Piano lives matter
alpinej0e
LGBTQPIANO, PIANO, PIANO. LGBTQPIANO, PIA-PIANO. I AM THE MUSIC MAAAAAAN.
Da3n
Did you just assume my instrument?
bismarcksd
i self identify as a piano. don't offend me
MysteriousCreeper
The gays don't get the piano all to themselves. They already have the rainbow....
Agreed. This strikes an important key.
Hummingbirdbandit
Liberace did some good advocating work for a while. Elton's still helping out.
Monkofthepast
Don't worry, what he fucks up Tim Motherfucking Minchin is fixin.
jakefromreddit
Just because I have a pianist doesn't mean I'm a piano. Check your privilege asshole.
Schmeckle
Don't forget about Piano Stevens and the Cha Cha Boys
acertainjenesaisquoi
I can understand LBGTQ. Anything further than that is just being an attention seeking lil' bitch.
vowofloudness
A few years ago that was the popular opinion of LGBTQ. Not saying you're wrong, but it's neat to see normal shift over time.
Ohgodtheyrealltaken
There's a couple others with sexuality and romance. Not quite minorities, but demisexual, asexual and similar things are legitimate.
MistressMadScientist1001
It looks like a cheat code you need to put in before you can change your sex.
thesameasyours
Just make sure you donate to the human fund
Cashbasket
NotSoIndependentGamer
You better have a damn good reason why you gave me a fake Christmas present.
The701
"Huh....human funding. I like it."
cvnk
I would but boy did we really take it on the chin last year
SereneLloydBraun
Is this from a show or something?
TheGodsMustBeCrazy
It's from Seinfeld. It's a totally fake charity that George makes up to get people to give him money on Christmas.
Do people ever use random references from the show to make their usernames?
Oh I'm sure they do. "Serenity now!" is a popular one.
How can I get on their list?
I find this offensive.
snowmMoonBaron
Well how do you like these apples
Chpgmr
you got her number?
KainWhisper
I'm stuck on how fucking ridiculous it is the LGBT group has to recognize 'people of color' in their community, like race matters for LGBT.
LGBT was meant to identify a community of preferences, not qualify you by your skin color. Identifying 'people of color' leaves out others.
the12thletter
b-but muh intersectionalism!
Dispari
Wait, we do? First I'm hearing of it. Also sounds dumb.
HamboneHFY
The new rainbow flag has black and brown at the top for that exact reason.
That's not "the new rainbow flag". It's the "race fetish" flag for people who want to be angry at other people because of their skin color
EClaire1073
Neither of those colors are in a rainbow.
Looked it up. "The new flag" is just a thing some peeps did in Philly. Looks like people forgot about it after a week, no new discussions.
Good to hear. Though I feel certain I've seen it since and elsewhere. Hopefully you're right though.
Doesn't look like anyone's talked about it after June 25th, so I doubt it's going anywhere. Other variants exist that people don't use.
justanothermonkeylookin4lub
Why exactly do we need to label a catagorize mankind into definable terms when mankind changes continually?
DanTheStanMan
For the same reason Christian fundamentalists need to quantify sin.
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
That's an interesting comparison, considering we've had the same measure of sin forever, while the weirdos come up with new shit daily.
bringbakfirefly
So we can have stupid shit like this.
Kitastrophe
Remember back in the 90s when kids were taught to treat everyone equally? Now everyone has to be treated differently & labels tell you how.
I graduated in 93 so yes I seem to recall those years fondly
Mistruths
Because labels are the evolutionary answer to a very difficult problem: how do we learn and know things.
1 label. This is a human. It should be treated like a human Equal to every other human Don't be mean to it Try to help it not die if you can
It's not quite that easy. Is the human part of our group—and should be guarded, helped—or not, and should be attacked?
Is this human a part of our group? Yes. It is human and all humans are part of the same group - Humans.
Saddly people need to label one another so they can arbitrarily place them in or out of their "tribe" several years ago we called this silly
Because it makes weak minded people feel like they are a part of something even if it is a complete fabrication.
If you must pigeonhole yourself my favourite acronym is QUILTBAG - Queer, Undecided, Intersex, Lesbian, Transgender, Bisexual, Asexual, Gay.
Retromorphic
Ah finally a term I can get behind... no pun intended.
Personally, I worry that this search for the specific letter that matches you is a case of failing to see the forest for the trees.
Just seek to be yourself and be happy in your own skin. That's all that matters.
argetbrisingr
I prefer GOLBAT.
cussfire
I'm gay and have absolutely no clue as to this nonsense. Died that mean I have to return my toaster oven?
BeelzeBoobs
Wait...do gays get a toaster oven when they come out?
We do, yes.
Yes. Turn in your rainbow-painted toaster.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
No it means a bunch of new-age teens/young adults are going to claim their made up sexuality has experienced just as much abuse as yours.
Yep.
Labels..Meh. I'm many things including gay. Gay can be and is a variety of traits and lifestyles. I'm me. That's enough most days.
UmbertoBench
It's not nonsense, it helps people. People really do identify by those labels and they are helped by knowing they're not alone.
And so we give them a more cumbersome label?
They're saying the acronym is cumbersome. Doesn't work anymore. Maybe we need to just go by an umbrella term like 'universal human equality'
Fair, but the periodic table is also cumbersome. This sort of acronym is mostly used in gender studies not meant for everyday life.
Gender studies is leaking these days.
I've seen it used outside of the classroom, but even by academic standards it's problematic. A field's jargon can limit its adopters
Lesbian,Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, 2-Spirit, Queer, Questioning, Pansexual, Intersex, Asexual, Non-Binary, Unlabelled, and more. AND MORE.
thanzanier
Lol "unlabeled"
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radiradi
Exactly trans and queer are both huge umbrella terms
thesauceisboss
audrawer
v
As an LGBT person,
AdmiralButtStuff
So basically LGBT has evolved into this thing that includes everyone now.
YaFavBoiChris
Well they decided they weren't special enough and needed more names for themselves because why not...
LosPer
Don't you guys get it? INTERSECTIONALITY is all the rage! Nobody is accepted until we're ALL accepted!
insayshabohle
I think Gay, Trans, Asexual, Non Binary, and Intersex most importantly are the only labels we need.
ThePunneryOfficer
There's no such thing as two spirit, or even one spirit for that matter
Jeroz
a lot of them are just repeating the same idea over and over.
FuckingInflatableFuckingCrown
*Billy Mays bursts in* BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!
In other words, mentally incapable of adapting to traditional archetypes within the human species.
Sparkydoodaa
I thought the + stood for Trans, Queer etc
fitnessjen1992
You lost me at 2-spirit
oo0ORB0oo
Where does attack helicopter fit in?
WilhelmSturmer
Hooey
OmNachoMama
Too complicated. I'll just stick with "I support all humans and their right to love whomever however they choose." With the caveat
Of it being consensual and of legal age to consent, etc.
Frohan007
Wtf lol
srm12722
What in the fuck
iamamitten
Or, you know, you could use MOGAI. OR EVEN BETTER, JUST USE LGBT AND STOP FUCKING ADDING LETTERS TO IT EVERY FEW WEEKS.
WereStillFlying
LGBT+, my friend
grammastvtrays
Sooo.....everyone then?
I just call people HUMANS much easier to remember. I guess unlabelled people don't like it so that's even better.
LoopyMind
How is "questioning" a type of sexuality anyway
The I is actually for Imaginary.
Uffen90
And before we know it, it will be so long that we just end up back where we started, we'll end up calling them "those kind of people" again.
Sqwuid
Holy fuck dude. And the ones not in that fucking garbled nonsense are gonna flipppppp
emguhraeb
1/2 as a gay dude, things are getting way out of control. militant gays and all this LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ crap is doing no favors for those of us
idontneednostinkingpuffin
Isn't this like the anti-gay argument about slippery slopes and whatnot?
2/2 that want plain old equality not this overly dramatic special snowflake crap.
NeatTricks
What the fuck is 2 spirit?
Yes it is
RatKingV
Native American term for non-straight people. Theres more that goes into it, I think - But thats the basic gist.
That's dumb.
Illuminutty
You're supposed to take the anti psychotics with food Ann! WITH FOOD!
tuxedobob
At that point, just type out the entire alphabet in a random order.
nipplepanties
Nope. Nooope. 4 or 5 tops. Gay straight bi, trans, asexual. These fit everyone.
napoleonsghost
Have fun separating gender from sexuality now, fuckers.
Talmorean
Can we just say Not-Straight?
Cheomesh
So, "Queers".
Ice0weasel
But wait there's more
DarthReznor
The department of redundancy department
Ewanator
Why can't we have "E"? Just "Everyone"?
tomriddle91
Why can't we have E? Everyone's sexy with e
Because that implies that noone is special
When everyone's super...
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
I honestly can't wait for that day. When the reaction to "Did you hear [INSERT NAME] is gay?" is "Cool" or "And?" like its nothing (1/2)
and people stop being cunts to LGBT people, the world will be a far better place. (2/2)
Skizzlesnap
I stopped at LGBT. And I am all for gay rights, even have a gay brother but it's getting ridiculous and it cheapens it IMO.
Telkesh
It does! And they are segregating themselves.
THANK YOU. Voluntary segregation is still segregation! It makes the movement weak
As a queer person, I'm glad to hear this sentiment echoed. It makes the movement look like a joke.
Isnt the whole point of queer for everyone who doesnt fit under the other LGBT labels?
Yup. That's why this crazy acronym bullshit is so frustrating.
akiba22
I mean hell if you must just do LGBT+ cause it takes too long otherwise
Smartest thing, imo. It covers everyonr
*everyone
jumpehjumpeh
Its pronounced "delusional"
Donttouchthatwithoutgloves
Pretty damn surprised you didn't get downvoted here.
spcmgmt
Sometimes common sense does prevail.
Flonaise
"plus"
byohzzrd
People who are each unique, looking to be included under the same label. How's about "human"? Shit, forgot the attack helicopters...
Well, goodlord! I prefer ass-pirate myself!
griffin4cats
I use GSRM. Gender, sexual, and romantic minorities.
AmSpecialSnowflake
That's... That's wise. I think I'll use that too
Covers all bases, won't get changed. I use it as often as I can and inform people of it's meaning. I didn't make it but hope it'll catch on.
Oooohhhh can I steal this? This is beautiful.
Sure! I didn't come up with it but I'm glad people like using it!
It's so smart. I'm sending it to my ace writer friend - she'll love it
homoerection
This is getting a bit ridiculous. As a gay man, I just want to have brunch and then go home and sleep off the champagne. Asking too much?
Not asking enough. If you eat brunch, you're cheating yourself out of 2 meals (breakfast and lunch) for 1, and that's a terrible deal.
Damnit, I knew I was getting fucked, just didn't know how hard.
Rheios
Where do you go to brunch and get enough champagne to require sleeping off without putting yourself in debt?
jurassicparksandrec
Some restaurants offer bottomless mimosas during brunch...
Honestly, 2 mimosas and I need a nap. Must be a light weight.
Eh. I'm just an intermittently heavy drinker in a long line.My mom is like 5'4''-5'6'', thin, and used to one-night drink handles of whiskey
GenerousThief
If it's just naming off sexuality and genders, why aren't straight and "cisgendered" (a term I hate) on there?
UsuallySpecial
It’s not just naming all, it’s naming the minority forms.
lionsilverwolf
Because they're not ~oppressed~
DickDastardly404
I sort of feel like "LGBT+" already made allowances for all that. Doesn't the "plus" already denote anyone who didn't feel they fit into 1/2
"LGBT"? Simply in terms of practicality and fairness, you would either have to go with every letter, acronym and symbol for every 1.5/2
self nomination of every person who wanted to identify with your group, OR put a sensible character limit on your acronym. There's no 1.75/2
point having a ludicrously long acronym if you're going to stick a "+" on the end, because surely the reason you added them to the 1.875/2
characters BEFORE the plus was because you didn't want anyone to feel excluded by not being specifically represented in the acronym 1.975/2
MORE.
alpacinointhedevilsadvocate
Mote
Br0doSwaggins
ralphonso
MOAR
svirr
Why not just call them non-heterosexual and get it over with?
Commandershepard13
Because then they couldn't be pretentious about it.
iwillshitonyourvalues
RespostIt7
So where does Demisexual come in?
czme
At what point do they just start typing the whole alphabet? I feel like they've got to be getting close.
whatcaniwriteinhere
But there's 2 Qs already so it would be the alphabet twice
CongratsYouAreHereNow
They should add an H for homophobes
bitemark
Helicopters
Thatllbuffrightout
You forgot one:
XyoLikesDinosaurs
m'pache
Deadbau5andy
TheMightyElk
Lbtqwuppawuppa
EyeTri
Vaanhalen
The Best one of all
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED2
I wonder what the last thing that goes through their victims head is, other than a 30mm round.
and mayonnaise too!
Ringshadow
I use "Quiltbag". Some people don't like it. Those people can stuff it. Quiltbag is pronounceable.
QLTBG? I like it
QUeer, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bi, Ace(Aro/Agen), Gay
kirbyvictorious
That is genius.
bucketfullofotters
The u, I, and a also refer to something. So the full term is "QUILTBAG"
Oh! Didnt even think about that. That's fkn cool, dude
As a member of the LGBT community, I usually just say LGBT. Sometimes people "correct" me, but every correction is different, so I decline.
Usually it's when I refer to others, but there's no acronym that would satisfy everyone, so I don't really try.
Why are we different communities? I don't understand. can't we just all be weird together? also away from me sometimes.
Iunno. Some people hate us for it, so there's that.
If you're not practicing "intersectionality", you're not doing it right...and then YOU become part of the problem...
Wat.
Maybe you guys need to have more sex with the intersections of lines and planes or something?
I'm not really out yet so I get corrected all the time and I'm just like *sighhhh* yeah sure I'm a homophobe all right
One time I got yelled at for putting a space between "trans woman" because they "didn't like how the words interacted" with a space. ???
That is craziness
LeonQuin87
What about straight?
Straight!? Fuck you! You don't matter!
mynamesbryson
Pedo, there are people in the community wanting to normalize pedophilia and incest.
yerd
I'm more against demonizing people with various conditions.
sbristol
You can remove the irrelevant "in the community" and it will still be just as true, you know. Not an lgbtblah problem, a sick fuck problem.
Zreen
Normalise means to standardise something. I think you mean vindicate.
Anotherunsuspectingvictim
Realistically. I think the age of consent should be raised in a lot of countries and lowered in a few. 16-17 Is pretty resonable to me.
I'm for, as creepy as it makes me sound, a universal age of consent of 14 with restrictions for many different cases. I.e. Germany's Law.
Freaknik48
Nah needs to be higher, same with military age and alcohol drinking age, 18's aren't more intelligent than a 25Y/O, I just don't know why1/2
We send kids whose brain hasn't stop developing out into the world, especially when we don't teach them what they need to know. 2/2
trikucian
Pedophilia should be recognized as a mental illness because there are people who feel that way but don't act on it b/c they know it's wrong.
I'd say it can be caused by mental illness and is often the result of childhood abuse but I wouldn't classify it as a mental illness
Child sexual predators have a variety of different causes and natures so it is hard to classify the whole thing as a single illness
For many it is not even attraction to children, they are simply acting out past abuse as is common of abuse victims
Cataleast
Could we do something like... "non-straight" or "non-cis" or something? Does everything need a specific label?
rizion
Because like before tumblr people were hating labels and post people label every single aspect and choose to define themselves by...
The tiniest part of what makes a person/individual. So they try to form this whole person out of a fraction of identity
Maybeee... umm... "non-standard"? Would that be incredibly offensive somehow?
oumajgad
It sounds better than "insane".
I mean. Non-heteronormative is the actual term. Dunno why that fell out of style.
It's a bit of a mouthful, but it gets the job done at least.
SuperSassySauce
Isn't gay and queer the same?
illegalacorn
yes and no
WardSharlow
Depends on who you ask. For a lot of people, everything can fall under "queer" though.
Oirilia
I 'think' it means someone who doesn't fit societal norms for their gender. Like a feminine guy or tomboy. So they could still be straight.
rivaar
Why does that require a label? I'm probably just ignorant but 90% of this shit just seems like attention seeking. LGBTQ+ at most.
dormantmutant
[INTERNALIZED OPPRESSION]
MATTER OF LAW
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
Sutashi
My gay friends hate the term queer. They consider it a major insult. So when they see LGBTQ they call it questioning.
lotsapfun
I've heard Queer also includes those with non-traditional sexual desires/fetishes. Like BDSM and other things. But idk for sure
cuzitsthere
Well that's about every-fucking-body.
Queer is likely closer to "don't quite know but it's something". I could be wrong
IHaveTheWorstGaydar
I use queer to refer to anyone who is in a sexual or gender minority. I'm queer myself and I enjoy the inclusivity of the term.
lirikappa
I though it was the person with the ball that everyone tries to tackle.
This is precisely how I've always used it
Oh ok. I guess I could be under a point of view but in another point of view I wouldn't ... I'm not really making sense am I
The term includes tom-boys and men with loving friendships… all people are queer in some way which is why 'gay rights' benefit everyone.
Queer is a blanket term. Trans? You're queer. Gay? You're queer. Intersex? You're queer. Easier than using the ridiculous acronym.
So, instead of the LGBTQPIANO, why not just say queer?
If you wanna discuss this in mote than 140 chrs, feel free to message me! I'd love to talk more - I like your questions a lot!
I don't think you want to have a convo with me. I believe that if it's not a choice and it's not genetic, while it is a biological...
Excellent question -Because the word queer has been used as a slur for centuries. Many people hate the word because it has negative 1/?
connotations. However, the term is slowly being reclaimed, just like other slurs (dyke for example). I prefer the term queer cuz it's 2/?
Nautas
What the fuck is 2-spirit.
Personally I think society is literally creating all of this bullshit into young people's minds. It never existed before.
HiddenSanity
It... definitely existed before? Wut? Do you ever ancient Greece?
I'm talking about all the other made up nonsense in that 17 letter acronym, bro.
SilverWingsofMorning
aboriginal gay/transgender type
fuzzymcbutterball
This is 2 spirit. 2 spirit too smooth.
romicra88
Mental issues
RepostSadistic
Someone who needs two glasses of alcohol before they can fuck
TheMightiestRiver
'More delusional / indulgent bullshit' is perhaps the most accurate answer.
Jollyphoenix
Headmates maybe? Google it then weep for the future that will never come to pass.
insaneillegalzombie
2S: Two Spirit. The traditional gender variation in First People communities who often served as the community’s visionaries and healers
nopost
It smells like teen spirit
scaredshirtless
2Spirit4Me
hitman35007
Beat me too it asshole
Nothing
Username is perfect.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
I thought that was trans folk.
Molotor
Jedi
Degorth
Someone really really bad at Dark Souls
Awesomesauce935
Xenos
Soujaofmisfortune
What many Native tribes called LGBQT people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit
TheMightyPootis
It's someone who's using bullshit to explain a split personality, I reckon.
itzmersh
I think they use to call it mental illness.
A traditional name for an American Indian gender. Someone who was not male or female.
MurrToTheMurr
Its like 1-spirit, but with one more spirit of course :)
Arock77
You could say twice the spirit
GilderoyPopDropNLockart
Seems pretty self explanatory
NotoriousPNG
Like a vodka martini?
lucky13kenny
A mental disorder
Yup!
TinyqueenB1212
I hope it's not that Otherkin shit. Because that is fucking stupid.
TheSublimelyMagnificentJechtUsernameMarkIII
Now that IS a mental illness
Igottiredofmyusernamesoichangedit
today's mental illness is tomorrows legitimate lifestyle.
1)Two spirit isn't Otherkin, no. Otherkin; actual delusion/illness/attentionwhoring/15yearolds-being-15. Two-spirited: a 'third gender'
Good to know thanks.
2) term used in several NA aboriginal cultures, believing that the persons spirit had a mix of male and female aspects. Sometimes revered
3) and were considered a good choice for Shaman(Having insights most others didn't) Also led to the occasional chief-with-boobs in a
4) male-dominated tribe.
5) intersex or children with ambiguous genitalia were often considered two-spirited, for example.
lordski
Can someone explain to me what exactly an "Otherkin" is?
Displaza
People believing they're an animal. Surprisingly there are cases of this being documented as a mental disorder (look up clinical lycanthropy
VadFanRickard
https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/wiki/dictionary
OrangePanic
That was a good read + 1.
DTJames
Otherkin is someone who think they're horse instead of human. Not like furry. Like actual horse. For example.
lonewolf658
To my knowledge it's people who believe they're not entirely human. Like they have like squirrel ancestors or some bullshit
DrClaww
*walks away sad and mentally challenged*
Someone that acts like they think they're suppose to be an animal or whatever.
Kairamek
They believe they have the soul of another creature. I say creature because it doesn't have to be an actual animal.
thefrenchiestoffries
it doesn't have to be an actual animal tho. there's shit like dragonkin or mermaid kin or angelkin....
Just....how?
Awesoman66theCactusLord
I have heard of such a thing from the Native Americans, but I have no fuckin clue
rainbowblow
It's the native American way of saying bi sexual
TrixiHobbitz
trans not bisexual
Actually just googled it to be sure. Gay. Not bi or trans. In which case where are they getting 'two' from?
It's a term used to describe gender nonbinary people in a spiritual context rather than a physical or sexual one
ideologist
wat
in many native cultures, trans people were seen as special on a spiritual level. they had a deeper connection with the spirit world because
carrot1sie
Well, also, you can't lump all native American tribe beliefs together
Like I said, I have no fuckin clue
TheGreatGreens
Nah native americans dont believe in 2 spirits per being, just 2 forms a physical and spiritual (ex a lake exists but also has a spirit etc)
not necessarily. many native cultures, including native Hawaiian believe that trans people had a deeper connection to the spirits because
they saw the world "through the eyes of both men and women" many mtf trans were honored as caretakers and teachers and ftm were shamans
insecureturdcaptain
Sauce.
I know its a day late but AMH 2010 US history through 1877 in college. Book is The American Promise: A Consise History 6th edition
In some NA Aboriginal traditions, Two-spirit was a 'third gender' of sorts. It varied in use some from tribe-to-tribe; often shaman.
TheosophicBlues
There wasn't a taboo against homosexuals and gender non-conformity in the Americas. Two spirit could be men living as women or women as men.
anunadulteratedmadman
This is flat false. Berdache or equivalent terms overwhelming applied solely to gay men. Many tribes held such people in contempt or scorn.
The concept of third genders is found in many cultures but like homosexuality and paganism, it was rooted out by Christian empires.
No, it is not. Also, most manifestations of the extremely-limited concept of a 3rd gender are just another word for gay men, i.e., Samoa.
/2 Bonus round, tribe words like Wergern only applied to gay men. Like the vast majority of false "3rd gender" classifications.
Weird that so many live as female instead of just being a guy fucking other guys. Its almost like there is a cultural role they are filling.
They were pretty well respected too. And a few chiefs were two-spirit. Christians changed that (the Spanish had them torn apart by dogs).
Are you pretending homosexuals/'2-spirits' were well respected across the americas? Lol?
Were they not? Everything I've read says they were.
/2 'Berdache', the precursor to the 1990s "2spirit", meant Gay Man in every single tribe but the Cheyennes. Who are you f'n kidding.
Weird that they would use a European word prior to the arrival of Christians.
flamingflamingo
The native American people were victims yes but I hesitate to paint them as enlightened. 2spirit were jyst gays.
When did I say "enlightened"? And again, a taboo against homosexuality (like, people murdering you for it) was spread by Abrahamic religion
But 2 Spirit were more. Women became warriors and took women as wives, ect. There was a cultural aspect too.
JadawinUK
PIANU REEVES!
Stalkedpython
SpecialMrQtip
I'm gay and as soon as they added the Q+ I was lost, if you really care if your letter is up there you are a sensitive baby who needs help
ChrisTallant
But it looks like someone tried to spell LGBTQ and then had a sudden bowling ball drop on their keyboard. Or genitals. Or both.
OddOod
LGBTetc. has always been a favorite of mine
bmulcahy
You mean LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ?
whysosingle
You forgot the +. You leave out tens of people when you leave out the +.
36roentgen
Lemon, Gum, Butt, Tutu, Tits, Quitter, Quidditch, Peeing, Individual, Anamorphic, Nuance, Union, Plus
whysosingle
When I was young I went through a peeing phase, but as an adult I've been pretty much tits.
36roentgen
Ah, a fellow LGBTTQQPIANU+
RoovyRoo
OMGWTFBBQ
MrPeebles
You forgot the GRASS
Rosie2003
Oh man, that takes me back
ErinFromTheOffice
LGBTQRSTFU
lHaveAConfession
I think all the new sexualities and genders are hurting this generation.
itsjustjake
Please don't let those lunatics fuck it up for the rest of us.
copingcabana
Reminds me of a town in Arizona: Tlaquepaque.
purplevolta
1/2 as a bisexual person who believes in equal rights for all.Fuckin' liberal oversensitive-bullfuckin'-social-justice-victim-complex-having
purplevolta
2/2 You're the most insidious bastards I've ever seen, everything you stand for is a spit in the face of those who fought for queer rights!
VeiweroftheVoid
What is that? A cheat code to a video game?
DisgruntledFerret
I enjoy a good BLGT sandwich, but people say it's a waste of good guac.
Yojoo
I understand the desire to not be mislabeled, but at a certain point you're just undermining the movement's ability to be taken seriously.
Spankywylde
I believe this would count as a from of Feature Creep.
Kittynomnoms
For a group that originally hated being forced into boxes and labeled, they sure are making a lot of tiny boxes to force themselves into.
JessicaRabbitWhoCollectsBadHabits
Well put.
griffonsgalore
I agree. I never really felt a part of the community anyways - I don't fit their "stereotype" and am rather embarrassed at the extremists.
whatsbuttsandcoconuts
I guess a Gay Barbecue would be a LGBBBQ
Amartini89
Also known as Brunch
iamthisguy247
And a gay sandwich might be a LGBBLT.
MeAndJulio
OMGWTFBBQ
ThatWhichRemains
LOLOMGWTGDAIRYQUEEN, LOLLGBBtheQ
Stuebydoo
BYOBB
slugworth70
SBBQ
Eclaircissement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m6Blqs0IgY
FlockOfSeagulls25
Oh hi Mike Pence
whitter86
LGBTSSSBBQ = Lesbian gay bi trans super sexual sex bbq
DaierMune
Why not just call it the Human Sexuality Spectrum, or something?
playingdead2022
there just making shit up now
prepareyourbutt
Always seemed weird to me that a group which stood for sexual freedom would be so anal about individual labeling
TheyCallMeCaptain
Well, I don't think all of them like anal.
rikkipatterson
It doesn't matter to anyone anymore.
AbsoluteFuckingWaffle
It's a typo. Meant to be LGBTQ&PIANO+. I support it. Pianos are tragically misrepresented.
VoxOfVoice
it's actually supposed to be LGABCDEFHIJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ
Drhoges
Odonpiano
eclect0
I'm transposed.
Exactually
Sometimes they're out of tune and need a specialist
CorgiCircus
OatieG
Piano lives matter
alpinej0e
LGBTQPIANO, PIANO, PIANO. LGBTQPIANO, PIA-PIANO. I AM THE MUSIC MAAAAAAN.
Da3n
Did you just assume my instrument?
bismarcksd
i self identify as a piano. don't offend me
MysteriousCreeper
The gays don't get the piano all to themselves. They already have the rainbow....
iamthisguy247
Agreed. This strikes an important key.
Hummingbirdbandit
whysosingle
Liberace did some good advocating work for a while. Elton's still helping out.
Monkofthepast
Don't worry, what he fucks up Tim Motherfucking Minchin is fixin.
jakefromreddit
Just because I have a pianist doesn't mean I'm a piano. Check your privilege asshole.
Schmeckle
Don't forget about Piano Stevens and the Cha Cha Boys
acertainjenesaisquoi
I can understand LBGTQ. Anything further than that is just being an attention seeking lil' bitch.
vowofloudness
A few years ago that was the popular opinion of LGBTQ. Not saying you're wrong, but it's neat to see normal shift over time.
Ohgodtheyrealltaken
There's a couple others with sexuality and romance. Not quite minorities, but demisexual, asexual and similar things are legitimate.
MistressMadScientist1001
It looks like a cheat code you need to put in before you can change your sex.
thesameasyours
Just make sure you donate to the human fund
Cashbasket
NotSoIndependentGamer
You better have a damn good reason why you gave me a fake Christmas present.
The701
"Huh....human funding. I like it."
cvnk
I would but boy did we really take it on the chin last year
SereneLloydBraun
Is this from a show or something?
TheGodsMustBeCrazy
It's from Seinfeld. It's a totally fake charity that George makes up to get people to give him money on Christmas.
SereneLloydBraun
Do people ever use random references from the show to make their usernames?
TheGodsMustBeCrazy
Oh I'm sure they do. "Serenity now!" is a popular one.
Rosie2003
How can I get on their list?
36roentgen
I find this offensive.
snowmMoonBaron
Well how do you like these apples
Chpgmr
you got her number?
KainWhisper
I'm stuck on how fucking ridiculous it is the LGBT group has to recognize 'people of color' in their community, like race matters for LGBT.
KainWhisper
LGBT was meant to identify a community of preferences, not qualify you by your skin color. Identifying 'people of color' leaves out others.
the12thletter
b-but muh intersectionalism!
Dispari
Wait, we do? First I'm hearing of it. Also sounds dumb.
HamboneHFY
The new rainbow flag has black and brown at the top for that exact reason.
itsjustjake
That's not "the new rainbow flag". It's the "race fetish" flag for people who want to be angry at other people because of their skin color
EClaire1073
Neither of those colors are in a rainbow.
Dispari
Looked it up. "The new flag" is just a thing some peeps did in Philly. Looks like people forgot about it after a week, no new discussions.
HamboneHFY
Good to hear. Though I feel certain I've seen it since and elsewhere. Hopefully you're right though.
Dispari
Doesn't look like anyone's talked about it after June 25th, so I doubt it's going anywhere. Other variants exist that people don't use.
justanothermonkeylookin4lub
Why exactly do we need to label a catagorize mankind into definable terms when mankind changes continually?
DanTheStanMan
For the same reason Christian fundamentalists need to quantify sin.
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
That's an interesting comparison, considering we've had the same measure of sin forever, while the weirdos come up with new shit daily.
bringbakfirefly
So we can have stupid shit like this.
Kitastrophe
Remember back in the 90s when kids were taught to treat everyone equally? Now everyone has to be treated differently & labels tell you how.
justanothermonkeylookin4lub
I graduated in 93 so yes I seem to recall those years fondly
Mistruths
Because labels are the evolutionary answer to a very difficult problem: how do we learn and know things.
Kitastrophe
1 label. This is a human. It should be treated like a human Equal to every other human Don't be mean to it Try to help it not die if you can
Mistruths
It's not quite that easy. Is the human part of our group—and should be guarded, helped—or not, and should be attacked?
Kitastrophe
Is this human a part of our group? Yes. It is human and all humans are part of the same group - Humans.
justanothermonkeylookin4lub
Saddly people need to label one another so they can arbitrarily place them in or out of their "tribe" several years ago we called this silly
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
Because it makes weak minded people feel like they are a part of something even if it is a complete fabrication.
HamboneHFY
If you must pigeonhole yourself my favourite acronym is QUILTBAG - Queer, Undecided, Intersex, Lesbian, Transgender, Bisexual, Asexual, Gay.
Retromorphic
Ah finally a term I can get behind... no pun intended.
HamboneHFY
Personally, I worry that this search for the specific letter that matches you is a case of failing to see the forest for the trees.
HamboneHFY
Just seek to be yourself and be happy in your own skin. That's all that matters.
argetbrisingr
I prefer GOLBAT.
cussfire
I'm gay and have absolutely no clue as to this nonsense. Died that mean I have to return my toaster oven?
BeelzeBoobs
Wait...do gays get a toaster oven when they come out?
itsjustjake
We do, yes.
DanTheStanMan
Yes. Turn in your rainbow-painted toaster.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
No it means a bunch of new-age teens/young adults are going to claim their made up sexuality has experienced just as much abuse as yours.
griffonsgalore
Yep.
cussfire
Labels..Meh. I'm many things including gay. Gay can be and is a variety of traits and lifestyles. I'm me. That's enough most days.
UmbertoBench
It's not nonsense, it helps people. People really do identify by those labels and they are helped by knowing they're not alone.
itsjustjake
And so we give them a more cumbersome label?
Kitastrophe
They're saying the acronym is cumbersome. Doesn't work anymore. Maybe we need to just go by an umbrella term like 'universal human equality'
UmbertoBench
Fair, but the periodic table is also cumbersome. This sort of acronym is mostly used in gender studies not meant for everyday life.
itsjustjake
Gender studies is leaking these days.
Kitastrophe
I've seen it used outside of the classroom, but even by academic standards it's problematic. A field's jargon can limit its adopters
whysosingle
Lesbian,Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, 2-Spirit, Queer, Questioning, Pansexual, Intersex, Asexual, Non-Binary, Unlabelled, and more. AND MORE.
thanzanier
Lol "unlabeled"
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radiradi
Exactly trans and queer are both huge umbrella terms
thesauceisboss
36roentgen
audrawer
EClaire1073
As an LGBT person,
AdmiralButtStuff
So basically LGBT has evolved into this thing that includes everyone now.
YaFavBoiChris
Well they decided they weren't special enough and needed more names for themselves because why not...
LosPer
Don't you guys get it? INTERSECTIONALITY is all the rage! Nobody is accepted until we're ALL accepted!
insayshabohle
I think Gay, Trans, Asexual, Non Binary, and Intersex most importantly are the only labels we need.
ThePunneryOfficer
There's no such thing as two spirit, or even one spirit for that matter
Jeroz
a lot of them are just repeating the same idea over and over.
FuckingInflatableFuckingCrown
*Billy Mays bursts in* BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
In other words, mentally incapable of adapting to traditional archetypes within the human species.
Sparkydoodaa
I thought the + stood for Trans, Queer etc
fitnessjen1992
You lost me at 2-spirit
oo0ORB0oo
Where does attack helicopter fit in?
WilhelmSturmer
Hooey
OmNachoMama
Too complicated. I'll just stick with "I support all humans and their right to love whomever however they choose." With the caveat
OmNachoMama
Of it being consensual and of legal age to consent, etc.
Frohan007
Wtf lol
srm12722
What in the fuck
iamamitten
Or, you know, you could use MOGAI. OR EVEN BETTER, JUST USE LGBT AND STOP FUCKING ADDING LETTERS TO IT EVERY FEW WEEKS.
WereStillFlying
LGBT+, my friend
grammastvtrays
Sooo.....everyone then?
Retromorphic
I just call people HUMANS much easier to remember. I guess unlabelled people don't like it so that's even better.
LoopyMind
How is "questioning" a type of sexuality anyway
OatieG
The I is actually for Imaginary.
Uffen90
And before we know it, it will be so long that we just end up back where we started, we'll end up calling them "those kind of people" again.
Sqwuid
Holy fuck dude. And the ones not in that fucking garbled nonsense are gonna flipppppp
emguhraeb
1/2 as a gay dude, things are getting way out of control. militant gays and all this LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ crap is doing no favors for those of us
idontneednostinkingpuffin
Isn't this like the anti-gay argument about slippery slopes and whatnot?
emguhraeb
2/2 that want plain old equality not this overly dramatic special snowflake crap.
NeatTricks
What the fuck is 2 spirit?
Retromorphic
Yes it is
RatKingV
Native American term for non-straight people. Theres more that goes into it, I think - But thats the basic gist.
EClaire1073
That's dumb.
Illuminutty
You're supposed to take the anti psychotics with food Ann! WITH FOOD!
tuxedobob
At that point, just type out the entire alphabet in a random order.
nipplepanties
Nope. Nooope. 4 or 5 tops. Gay straight bi, trans, asexual. These fit everyone.
napoleonsghost
Have fun separating gender from sexuality now, fuckers.
Talmorean
Can we just say Not-Straight?
Cheomesh
So, "Queers".
Ice0weasel
But wait there's more
DarthReznor
The department of redundancy department
Ewanator
Why can't we have "E"? Just "Everyone"?
tomriddle91
Why can't we have E? Everyone's sexy with e
Retromorphic
Because that implies that noone is special
Ewanator
When everyone's super...
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
I honestly can't wait for that day. When the reaction to "Did you hear [INSERT NAME] is gay?" is "Cool" or "And?" like its nothing (1/2)
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
and people stop being cunts to LGBT people, the world will be a far better place. (2/2)
Skizzlesnap
I stopped at LGBT. And I am all for gay rights, even have a gay brother but it's getting ridiculous and it cheapens it IMO.
Telkesh
It does! And they are segregating themselves.
Hummingbirdbandit
THANK YOU. Voluntary segregation is still segregation! It makes the movement weak
Hummingbirdbandit
As a queer person, I'm glad to hear this sentiment echoed. It makes the movement look like a joke.
argetbrisingr
Isnt the whole point of queer for everyone who doesnt fit under the other LGBT labels?
Hummingbirdbandit
Yup. That's why this crazy acronym bullshit is so frustrating.
akiba22
I mean hell if you must just do LGBT+ cause it takes too long otherwise
Hummingbirdbandit
Smartest thing, imo. It covers everyonr
Hummingbirdbandit
*everyone
jumpehjumpeh
Its pronounced "delusional"
Donttouchthatwithoutgloves
Pretty damn surprised you didn't get downvoted here.
spcmgmt
Sometimes common sense does prevail.
Flonaise
"plus"
byohzzrd
People who are each unique, looking to be included under the same label. How's about "human"? Shit, forgot the attack helicopters...
cussfire
Well, goodlord! I prefer ass-pirate myself!
griffin4cats
I use GSRM. Gender, sexual, and romantic minorities.
AmSpecialSnowflake
That's... That's wise. I think I'll use that too
griffin4cats
Covers all bases, won't get changed. I use it as often as I can and inform people of it's meaning. I didn't make it but hope it'll catch on.
Hummingbirdbandit
Oooohhhh can I steal this? This is beautiful.
griffin4cats
Sure! I didn't come up with it but I'm glad people like using it!
Hummingbirdbandit
It's so smart. I'm sending it to my ace writer friend - she'll love it
homoerection
This is getting a bit ridiculous. As a gay man, I just want to have brunch and then go home and sleep off the champagne. Asking too much?
EClaire1073
Not asking enough. If you eat brunch, you're cheating yourself out of 2 meals (breakfast and lunch) for 1, and that's a terrible deal.
homoerection
Damnit, I knew I was getting fucked, just didn't know how hard.
Rheios
Where do you go to brunch and get enough champagne to require sleeping off without putting yourself in debt?
jurassicparksandrec
Some restaurants offer bottomless mimosas during brunch...
homoerection
Honestly, 2 mimosas and I need a nap. Must be a light weight.
Rheios
Eh. I'm just an intermittently heavy drinker in a long line.My mom is like 5'4''-5'6'', thin, and used to one-night drink handles of whiskey
GenerousThief
If it's just naming off sexuality and genders, why aren't straight and "cisgendered" (a term I hate) on there?
UsuallySpecial
It’s not just naming all, it’s naming the minority forms.
lionsilverwolf
Because they're not ~oppressed~
DickDastardly404
I sort of feel like "LGBT+" already made allowances for all that. Doesn't the "plus" already denote anyone who didn't feel they fit into 1/2
DickDastardly404
"LGBT"? Simply in terms of practicality and fairness, you would either have to go with every letter, acronym and symbol for every 1.5/2
DickDastardly404
self nomination of every person who wanted to identify with your group, OR put a sensible character limit on your acronym. There's no 1.75/2
DickDastardly404
point having a ludicrously long acronym if you're going to stick a "+" on the end, because surely the reason you added them to the 1.875/2
DickDastardly404
characters BEFORE the plus was because you didn't want anyone to feel excluded by not being specifically represented in the acronym 1.975/2
whysosingle
MORE.
alpacinointhedevilsadvocate
Mote
Br0doSwaggins
ralphonso
MOAR
svirr
Why not just call them non-heterosexual and get it over with?
Commandershepard13
Because then they couldn't be pretentious about it.
iwillshitonyourvalues
RespostIt7
So where does Demisexual come in?
czme
At what point do they just start typing the whole alphabet? I feel like they've got to be getting close.
whatcaniwriteinhere
But there's 2 Qs already so it would be the alphabet twice
CongratsYouAreHereNow
They should add an H for homophobes
bitemark
Helicopters
Thatllbuffrightout
You forgot one:
XyoLikesDinosaurs
m'pache
Deadbau5andy
TheMightyElk
Lbtqwuppawuppa
EyeTri
Vaanhalen
The Best one of all
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED2
I wonder what the last thing that goes through their victims head is, other than a 30mm round.
emguhraeb
and mayonnaise too!
Ringshadow
I use "Quiltbag". Some people don't like it. Those people can stuff it. Quiltbag is pronounceable.
Hummingbirdbandit
QLTBG? I like it
Ringshadow
QUeer, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bi, Ace(Aro/Agen), Gay
kirbyvictorious
That is genius.
bucketfullofotters
The u, I, and a also refer to something. So the full term is "QUILTBAG"
Hummingbirdbandit
Oh! Didnt even think about that. That's fkn cool, dude
Dispari
As a member of the LGBT community, I usually just say LGBT. Sometimes people "correct" me, but every correction is different, so I decline.
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Dispari
Usually it's when I refer to others, but there's no acronym that would satisfy everyone, so I don't really try.
Retromorphic
Why are we different communities? I don't understand. can't we just all be weird together? also away from me sometimes.
Dispari
Iunno. Some people hate us for it, so there's that.
LosPer
If you're not practicing "intersectionality", you're not doing it right...and then YOU become part of the problem...
Dispari
Wat.
Rheios
Maybe you guys need to have more sex with the intersections of lines and planes or something?
kirbyvictorious
I'm not really out yet so I get corrected all the time and I'm just like *sighhhh* yeah sure I'm a homophobe all right
Dispari
One time I got yelled at for putting a space between "trans woman" because they "didn't like how the words interacted" with a space. ???
kirbyvictorious
That is craziness
LeonQuin87
What about straight?
idontneednostinkingpuffin
Straight!? Fuck you! You don't matter!
mynamesbryson
Pedo, there are people in the community wanting to normalize pedophilia and incest.
yerd
I'm more against demonizing people with various conditions.
sbristol
You can remove the irrelevant "in the community" and it will still be just as true, you know. Not an lgbtblah problem, a sick fuck problem.
Zreen
Retromorphic
Normalise means to standardise something. I think you mean vindicate.
Anotherunsuspectingvictim
Realistically. I think the age of consent should be raised in a lot of countries and lowered in a few. 16-17 Is pretty resonable to me.
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
I'm for, as creepy as it makes me sound, a universal age of consent of 14 with restrictions for many different cases. I.e. Germany's Law.
Freaknik48
Nah needs to be higher, same with military age and alcohol drinking age, 18's aren't more intelligent than a 25Y/O, I just don't know why1/2
Freaknik48
We send kids whose brain hasn't stop developing out into the world, especially when we don't teach them what they need to know. 2/2
trikucian
Pedophilia should be recognized as a mental illness because there are people who feel that way but don't act on it b/c they know it's wrong.
radiradi
I'd say it can be caused by mental illness and is often the result of childhood abuse but I wouldn't classify it as a mental illness
radiradi
Child sexual predators have a variety of different causes and natures so it is hard to classify the whole thing as a single illness
radiradi
For many it is not even attraction to children, they are simply acting out past abuse as is common of abuse victims
Cataleast
Could we do something like... "non-straight" or "non-cis" or something? Does everything need a specific label?
rizion
Because like before tumblr people were hating labels and post people label every single aspect and choose to define themselves by...
rizion
The tiniest part of what makes a person/individual. So they try to form this whole person out of a fraction of identity
Cataleast
Maybeee... umm... "non-standard"? Would that be incredibly offensive somehow?
oumajgad
It sounds better than "insane".
Hummingbirdbandit
I mean. Non-heteronormative is the actual term. Dunno why that fell out of style.
Cataleast
It's a bit of a mouthful, but it gets the job done at least.
SuperSassySauce
Isn't gay and queer the same?
illegalacorn
yes and no
WardSharlow
Depends on who you ask. For a lot of people, everything can fall under "queer" though.
Oirilia
I 'think' it means someone who doesn't fit societal norms for their gender. Like a feminine guy or tomboy. So they could still be straight.
rivaar
Why does that require a label? I'm probably just ignorant but 90% of this shit just seems like attention seeking. LGBTQ+ at most.
dormantmutant
EClaire1073
[INTERNALIZED OPPRESSION]
dormantmutant
MATTER OF LAW
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
Sutashi
My gay friends hate the term queer. They consider it a major insult. So when they see LGBTQ they call it questioning.
lotsapfun
I've heard Queer also includes those with non-traditional sexual desires/fetishes. Like BDSM and other things. But idk for sure
cuzitsthere
Well that's about every-fucking-body.
Zreen
Queer is likely closer to "don't quite know but it's something". I could be wrong
IHaveTheWorstGaydar
I use queer to refer to anyone who is in a sexual or gender minority. I'm queer myself and I enjoy the inclusivity of the term.
lirikappa
I though it was the person with the ball that everyone tries to tackle.
Hummingbirdbandit
This is precisely how I've always used it
Zreen
Oh ok. I guess I could be under a point of view but in another point of view I wouldn't ... I'm not really making sense am I
IHaveTheWorstGaydar
The term includes tom-boys and men with loving friendships… all people are queer in some way which is why 'gay rights' benefit everyone.
Hummingbirdbandit
Queer is a blanket term. Trans? You're queer. Gay? You're queer. Intersex? You're queer. Easier than using the ridiculous acronym.
idontneednostinkingpuffin
So, instead of the LGBTQPIANO, why not just say queer?
Hummingbirdbandit
If you wanna discuss this in mote than 140 chrs, feel free to message me! I'd love to talk more - I like your questions a lot!
idontneednostinkingpuffin
I don't think you want to have a convo with me. I believe that if it's not a choice and it's not genetic, while it is a biological...
Hummingbirdbandit
Excellent question -Because the word queer has been used as a slur for centuries. Many people hate the word because it has negative 1/?
Hummingbirdbandit
connotations. However, the term is slowly being reclaimed, just like other slurs (dyke for example). I prefer the term queer cuz it's 2/?
Nautas
What the fuck is 2-spirit.
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ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
Personally I think society is literally creating all of this bullshit into young people's minds. It never existed before.
HiddenSanity
It... definitely existed before? Wut? Do you ever ancient Greece?
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
I'm talking about all the other made up nonsense in that 17 letter acronym, bro.
SilverWingsofMorning
aboriginal gay/transgender type
fuzzymcbutterball
This is 2 spirit. 2 spirit too smooth.
romicra88
Mental issues
RepostSadistic
Someone who needs two glasses of alcohol before they can fuck
TheMightiestRiver
'More delusional / indulgent bullshit' is perhaps the most accurate answer.
Jollyphoenix
Headmates maybe? Google it then weep for the future that will never come to pass.
insaneillegalzombie
2S: Two Spirit. The traditional gender variation in First People communities who often served as the community’s visionaries and healers
nopost
It smells like teen spirit
scaredshirtless
2Spirit4Me
hitman35007
Beat me too it asshole
ImSorryThatIWasBornIdentifyingAsTheSexThatIActuallyAm
Nothing
YaFavBoiChris
Username is perfect.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
I thought that was trans folk.
Molotor
Jedi
Degorth
Someone really really bad at Dark Souls
Awesomesauce935
Xenos
Soujaofmisfortune
What many Native tribes called LGBQT people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit
TheMightyPootis
It's someone who's using bullshit to explain a split personality, I reckon.
itzmersh
I think they use to call it mental illness.
radiradi
A traditional name for an American Indian gender. Someone who was not male or female.
MurrToTheMurr
Its like 1-spirit, but with one more spirit of course :)
Arock77
You could say twice the spirit
GilderoyPopDropNLockart
Seems pretty self explanatory
NotoriousPNG
Like a vodka martini?
lucky13kenny
A mental disorder
idontneednostinkingpuffin
Yup!
TinyqueenB1212
I hope it's not that Otherkin shit. Because that is fucking stupid.
TheSublimelyMagnificentJechtUsernameMarkIII
Now that IS a mental illness
Igottiredofmyusernamesoichangedit
today's mental illness is tomorrows legitimate lifestyle.
HiddenSanity
1)Two spirit isn't Otherkin, no. Otherkin; actual delusion/illness/attentionwhoring/15yearolds-being-15. Two-spirited: a 'third gender'
TinyqueenB1212
Good to know thanks.
HiddenSanity
2) term used in several NA aboriginal cultures, believing that the persons spirit had a mix of male and female aspects. Sometimes revered
HiddenSanity
3) and were considered a good choice for Shaman(Having insights most others didn't) Also led to the occasional chief-with-boobs in a
HiddenSanity
4) male-dominated tribe.
HiddenSanity
5) intersex or children with ambiguous genitalia were often considered two-spirited, for example.
lordski
Can someone explain to me what exactly an "Otherkin" is?
Displaza
People believing they're an animal. Surprisingly there are cases of this being documented as a mental disorder (look up clinical lycanthropy
VadFanRickard
https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/wiki/dictionary
OrangePanic
That was a good read + 1.
DTJames
Otherkin is someone who think they're horse instead of human. Not like furry. Like actual horse. For example.
lonewolf658
To my knowledge it's people who believe they're not entirely human. Like they have like squirrel ancestors or some bullshit
DrClaww
*walks away sad and mentally challenged*
romicra88
Someone that acts like they think they're suppose to be an animal or whatever.
Br0doSwaggins
Kairamek
They believe they have the soul of another creature. I say creature because it doesn't have to be an actual animal.
thefrenchiestoffries
it doesn't have to be an actual animal tho. there's shit like dragonkin or mermaid kin or angelkin....
lordski
Just....how?
Awesoman66theCactusLord
I have heard of such a thing from the Native Americans, but I have no fuckin clue
rainbowblow
It's the native American way of saying bi sexual
TrixiHobbitz
trans not bisexual
rainbowblow
Actually just googled it to be sure. Gay. Not bi or trans. In which case where are they getting 'two' from?
TrixiHobbitz
It's a term used to describe gender nonbinary people in a spiritual context rather than a physical or sexual one
ideologist
wat
TrixiHobbitz
in many native cultures, trans people were seen as special on a spiritual level. they had a deeper connection with the spirit world because
carrot1sie
Well, also, you can't lump all native American tribe beliefs together
Awesoman66theCactusLord
Like I said, I have no fuckin clue
TheGreatGreens
Nah native americans dont believe in 2 spirits per being, just 2 forms a physical and spiritual (ex a lake exists but also has a spirit etc)
TrixiHobbitz
not necessarily. many native cultures, including native Hawaiian believe that trans people had a deeper connection to the spirits because
TrixiHobbitz
they saw the world "through the eyes of both men and women" many mtf trans were honored as caretakers and teachers and ftm were shamans
insecureturdcaptain
Sauce.
TheGreatGreens
I know its a day late but AMH 2010 US history through 1877 in college. Book is The American Promise: A Consise History 6th edition
HiddenSanity
In some NA Aboriginal traditions, Two-spirit was a 'third gender' of sorts. It varied in use some from tribe-to-tribe; often shaman.
TheosophicBlues
There wasn't a taboo against homosexuals and gender non-conformity in the Americas. Two spirit could be men living as women or women as men.
anunadulteratedmadman
This is flat false. Berdache or equivalent terms overwhelming applied solely to gay men. Many tribes held such people in contempt or scorn.
TheosophicBlues
The concept of third genders is found in many cultures but like homosexuality and paganism, it was rooted out by Christian empires.
anunadulteratedmadman
No, it is not. Also, most manifestations of the extremely-limited concept of a 3rd gender are just another word for gay men, i.e., Samoa.
anunadulteratedmadman
/2 Bonus round, tribe words like Wergern only applied to gay men. Like the vast majority of false "3rd gender" classifications.
TheosophicBlues
Weird that so many live as female instead of just being a guy fucking other guys. Its almost like there is a cultural role they are filling.
TheosophicBlues
They were pretty well respected too. And a few chiefs were two-spirit. Christians changed that (the Spanish had them torn apart by dogs).
anunadulteratedmadman
Are you pretending homosexuals/'2-spirits' were well respected across the americas? Lol?
TheosophicBlues
Were they not? Everything I've read says they were.
anunadulteratedmadman
/2 'Berdache', the precursor to the 1990s "2spirit", meant Gay Man in every single tribe but the Cheyennes. Who are you f'n kidding.
TheosophicBlues
Weird that they would use a European word prior to the arrival of Christians.
flamingflamingo
The native American people were victims yes but I hesitate to paint them as enlightened. 2spirit were jyst gays.
TheosophicBlues
When did I say "enlightened"? And again, a taboo against homosexuality (like, people murdering you for it) was spread by Abrahamic religion
TheosophicBlues
But 2 Spirit were more. Women became warriors and took women as wives, ect. There was a cultural aspect too.