To aid those confused between England, Britain and the UK

Jun 17, 2016 4:25 PM

navidendi

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Recently I have noticed that many of our fellow imgurians seem to easily confuse Britain with the UK and England, so I hope to somewhat clarify these matters.

England

England (my country) was first unified as a country in around 927 AD and since then has had many wars (mainly with the French). It is made up of 48 counties which are a bit like states, as they all have their own unique culture.

Wales

Wales became independent in 1056 after many back and forth wars between England and itself. It has been into 8 counties. It also has in my opinion the coolest flag by far.

Scotland

Founded in 843 AD, the Scots also fought England a lot (due to them not liking us very much... and all the raping and pillaging) and went back and fourth between independence and English rule for a bit in the 13th century. It used to be split up into burghs but is now made up of 32 council areas.

Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland was formed in 1921 due to the split between Irish people wanting to join the United Kingdom or not ( It was a lot more complicated than this and there was loads of fighting due to them not really getting a choice in the matter.) It is made up of 6 counties.

The Republic of Ireland

The Republic of Ireland was formed in 1949 again due to not wanting to join the UK (again way more complicated and there was loads of fighting because basically us English were huge dicks to Ireland and gave them no choice) . There was (and still is in some places) between Ireland and Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland due to Catholic-Protestant divide (Catholics South and Protestants North) it has 32 counties.

Britain or Great Britain

This is where it gets confusing. Great Britain is just England, Scotland and Wales. It is the name of the ISLAND, and is not a country. The "great" comes from it being larger than Brittany in France, and first came about around the 12th century However in more historic, works such as "Almagest"by Ptolemy, Britain is called Great Britain and Ireland "Little Britain". However it turns out this is very out dated and it will really annoy the Irish if you call Ireland Little Britain.

The British Isles

Again still independent countries, the British isles is the name given to both Great Britain and Ireland and again only refers to the geographical Islands and not the countries within.

The United Kingdom

And of course the UK. This is a union of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, formed in 1707. UK actually stands for The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Although all the countries are all governed by the same parliament in Westminster , they each have their own regional Parliament to deal with local affairs. Although we often enter as one team into sporting events like the Olympics, we are still independent countries and get pretty butthurt when confused with one another.

(sorry for any errors, especially in the history , feel free to correct me in the comments - first post though so be kind)

*Edit* Thank you all for the feedback, Ireland has 32 counties total not 32 South and 6 North. I have corrected most of my horrendous spelling errors (sorry Ireland) and also took out some of the badly phrased parts and inadvertently offensive remarks. Finally I have been told about a video on this by CGP Grey so here is the sauce- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

*edit two*- Due to my post being a giant omnishambles, I have more errors to correct. Lesser Britain is Brittany in France and has absolutely nothing to do with Ireland. Also DON'T call Irish people British or they will be a little more than a tad miffed (and may or may not punch your bleeding lights out).

I think the history or northern and Southern Ireland is a little more than "they didn't want to join"....

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think the history or northern and Southern Ireland is a little more than "they didn't want to join"....

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The main difference: the Irish, Welsh and Scots are the ones you want in your country during football tournaments.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 5

LMAO! So true! Keep the English out!

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 9

@OP you literally got everything about Ireland wrong. Where the hell are you from?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I know I'm so sorry, I have tried to clean it up in edits but this post was a hit of a train wreck.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The Island of Ireland is not part of the geological british isles.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The Republic of Ireland has 26 counties. Northern Ireland has 6. Altogether, Ireland has 32. Just to be clear.

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

Thanks, I'll fix in the edit.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Also Great Britain is the Great one because its bigger than brittany in france. Nothing to do with ireland being lesser

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Also, people from the Republic of Ireland are not British

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

answer: plus not england

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There are only 26 counties in southern ireland and 6 in the north and 32 in north and south,

9 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 0

Also founded as the Irish Free State in 22 and split them from UK and the North. Republic was in all but semantics a rename.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Thanks I will correct that in an edit.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

No bother dude glad to help out. :D

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

But to be extra pedantic. Its the Republic of Ireland.. Or Eire. There's Northern Ireland, there isn't "Southern Ireland".

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

There was, very briefly, 'Southern Ireland' 1920-21. Not many people paid any attention to the Better Government of Ireland act though....

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Irish people are NOT known as british

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Ill clear that up in the edit, sorry.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The welsh Dragon needs to be put on the UK flag.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

As a welsh woman 1) where? and 2) never!

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

In the same position as it is on the welsh flag and why not?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ireland did not become a republic in '49 to avoid joining the UK. It left the UK as a free state in '21 and became a republic in '37.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Ill fix that sorry

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It left the the UK in 1922, but became a republic in 1949

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It became a republic with the 1937 constitution. The rest was just pedantics and vetsigal legislation to do with the commonwealth

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I don't think anyone from the Republic of Ireland would ever refer to themselves as British

9 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 1

Exactly, because they're not.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

nope not a hope in hell, we're irish, always have been and always will be

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

As an english person i certainly wouldn't expect or ask them to.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I have corrected that, sorry if I caused any offense.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Never.

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Never ever ever

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Oh we just decided we didn't want to be apart of Britain did we? Thanks for giving us the choice.. Oh wait you didn't.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yea I will fix that in the edit sorry.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, I mean the Irish did decide not to be part of Britain (arguably in/before 1798), the issue was more Britain repeatedly ignoring you.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Irish people are NOT known as british. If you get this confused, an Irish person WILL punch you for it. Be warned.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

I'll edit that in, sorry.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Quite a few people up here in Scotland would do the same.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

The difference being though; that the Scottish are British (living on the island of Britain), and the Irish aren't.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Upvoting for information I wasn't aware I needed.

9 years ago | Likes 100 Dislikes 0

It's mostly only half right in places

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I have tried to a dress most of the errors in edits, sorry for the poor quality.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Most of your edits have been amendments rather than full-on corrections. It's a very good post.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As a ½ Welsh, ½ English chap living in Scotland, I feel I'm qualified to say: each country has very good parts and very shitty parts.

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

Same for basically 95% of the countries on Earth.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yep, and of course where ever you happen to be from is always bragged about as being the worst.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I'm from Suffolk and I can confidently say that Essex is the worst.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"You're from Manchester? Pah, we Glaswegians knife people WAY more messily than you Mancs!"

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Though the people from the Republic of Ireland are known as Irish not British

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Yes. @OP got pretty much everything wrong about Ireland

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yes this post was a bit of a train wreck, but I have tried to fix what I can. Sorry.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thanks, ill put that in the edit.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Actually everyone on the island is Irish, some of them are of British ancestry and still call them self British but they are Irish now.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

FYI Lesser Britain is Brittany in France, not Ireland

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

The classical writer Claudius Ptolemy, referred to the larger island as great Britain (megale Bretannia) and to Ireland as little Britain.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah Im pretty sure that's not where the current terms come from

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Being sure in your own stupidity is definitely brave. My point was Britain has been called Britain for a long long time.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I'll fix it, Thank you

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So, in the num. plates why you guys wear GB instead of UK? (I think it's not official, btw, but I never saw a plate with UK letters)

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Because noone really cares about N.Ireland.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

A number of people are attempting to get the "Brittish Isles" to be referred to more commonly as the "Atlantic Archipelago".

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I utterly blew my Japanese boss' mind a while ago when I explained that. Didn't help the Japanese word for England and the UK are identical.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

The Japanese word? It's a name, is not just England?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

When talking about either England or the entire UK in Japanese, the commonly used word is the same - "igirisu".

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an American

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As clear as Scottish mud

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Lesser Britain never referred to Ireland, it was the name of Brittany in modern France.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Thanks ill edit that, sorry.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

5/6th century, the northwest of France became known as Brittania Minor when It was settled by a large number of Celts.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually, in the late Roman period it did, but it fell out of use when Ireland became culturally distinct. Then in the 1/

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I thought it was Hibernia?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was under the impression that Ireland was grouped into the Brittanniae, so a British Isle, but was called Hibernia not Britannia Minor

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not all people from the British Isles are British, a large number of Irish (roi) folks would get very angry being called British

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

I have tried to fix that in another edit, sorry.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Quite a few (Northern) Irish object as well

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Just call them lesser British ;) they'll love that

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9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Lesser Britain is Brittany, not Ireland. This dude needs to research a bit better

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

They teach this everywhere but in the U.S.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Cause if you try to teach me that I'll say 'who cares' just like everyone else here lol

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Oh wow so that's more than just a stereotype??

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm being facetious. But also kind of yes lol

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ha just noticed your username too...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wales "not as culturally unique" just goes to show how little England care about Wales. I have met people who think that Wales was 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

Sorry didn't mean to offend, just thought the counties were less distinct compared to England. I still love your country though.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I think OP means culturally distinct; Welsh countries are not as culturally distinct from each other as English counties are.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Not saying it's true, just trying to clarify.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The counties have changed lines too much, you have to view it from town to town or valley to valley.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/2 untouched by both the world wars, and when challenged as to why, they seem to think Wales is in it's own pocket dimension.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

3) And I have seen the dents in the family trees when towns and cities were flattened, the sunken towns, and that's just the recent history

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4) As far as ancient history goes, the old law books written in ancient Welsh still exist and give fascinating insight into how culturally

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

5) different Wales was back then. The inheritance and marriage laws were extremely different from England.

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6) And the phonetic and flowing nature of the Welsh language effects everyone that grew up there, even if they don't speak Welsh.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

We have our faults as much as anywhere else but I love being English. We have a beautiful country and some class accents.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

I'm less keen on it now

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Totally agree, always makes me laugh hearing my home town accent on tele or something, sounds so scummy hahaha

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Must be a scouser

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I'm Scouse and hate hearing our accent on telly. I like it otherwise

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'm not fond of hearing Irish accents on tv myself, I find it vaguely embarrassing

9 years ago | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Where you from?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Stoke on Trent

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sound place. Stayed down there and had a class time. North East here.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah it's ok, has its bad spots but so has everywhere. Good people though. Never been North East if I'm honest!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Class accents? You sound Norvern, mate. Do you pronounce it 'Klass' or 'klaarss' ?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am northern mate. Durham lad. You? Klass all the way

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Royal county of Baaaark-sheer. We don't even have gravy on our chips round here.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dinner of champs that lad!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dinner is served at 7.00pm right? Not at 1.00pm?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a fellow Englander I'm starting to feel uncomfortable in my own country. It seems to be suddenly inhabited by racist wankers.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 8

You have Wankers and we have Hosers eh!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've been around the world. This seems true of every country.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

This has got worse in the past few weeks due to the eu referuendum.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You think the UKIP is bad? At least you wankers don't have to deal with Trump.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

True. AT least UKIP is a relatively fringe party

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well if you don't vote him in, you won't have to deal with him. Plus if he does get to be President it's a temporary deal. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

He'll have a set term. This referendum is final. No second chances to reverse it later down the line.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Nah, he won't get voted in. I meant having to deal with his face in the news and his mouth-breathing supporters.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Hopefully he'll disappear back to his golf course with his ludicrous hair in tow.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Hopefully. And that's not hair; it's a Tribble undergoing daily violations of just about every part of the Geneva Conventions.

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