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gobbin
Please vote people, you need to get these assholes out of office ASAP.
imsomewhatofaboobmyself
Depends on where you live. https://ballotpedia.org/State_by_State_Provisional_Ballot_Laws If voting worked we wouldn't have these problems.
bla703
This, postal service, delay. I have to say, these are concerns one would expect from a 3rd world dictatorship.
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
CharlesPerrault1987
Trump will lie, cheat and do whatever he needs to win. If he loses he's guaranteed to face jail time. Vote. V">e.org">Vote.org or vote.gov
thatonetimefrombandcamp
jebascho
You don't have to yell it though and you don't have to be rude. "May I please vote with a provisional ballot?" is all it takes.
jebascho
In my county, we never denied someone a ballot and would proactively offer a provisional ballot, and also offer to help them with the form.
SleepyFourEyes
VOTE.ORG">VOTE.ORG">VOTE.ORG VOTE.ORG VOTE.ORG ?????????????
SleepyFourEyes
FUCK TRUMP WITH A RUSTY COATHANGER IN HIS DICKLEES PEEHOLE
uberm3
EpilatorAlligatorBothReduceGrowth
How is this even a subject that needs to be discussed in USA? It’s so clear that the country is not something to strive to be anymore.
lenomdeplume
Pro Tip: in some states, there are databases, which poll workers can immediately access, that list your current polling location.
lenomdeplume
States frequently change the boundaries of polling districts to cope with shifts in population. Avoids super large, unmanageable polls.
lenomdeplume
At any rate, check your polling location NOW. Provisional ballots aren’t counted until after all returns are in AND only if it’s tight race.
CAPTnobody
Mr. Takei is a goddamn treasure. I absolutely love this man and everything he stands for. +1, sir!
4EverZw
S. King's Dark Tower series used a powerful mantra involving 'forgetting the face of your father.' Remember they face of your forefathers!
JoSTL15
Or, I don’t want either..
jery007
When did it get so hard to vote. I just walk over to my kid's school on voting day with a paper I am mailed or a valid ID. put an X and go
The701
Some places in the US can have hours-long waits, and some places are purging voter rolls, which has a habit of un-registering living, active
The701
voters without informing them.
jery007
Seems like a lot of older systems need to be re thought
zooumberg8
My grandmother born 1907 she would walk through a blizzard to vote. Even when she was in her 80's. She knew the importance of voting
zooumberg8
She always told me her vote was one of the most precious things as her mother didn't have the right.
cabalin
Related question. If you request a mail in ballot, must you use it or can you change your mind and vote at your polling place?
thepicklebucket
Why not both? oh, wait
bripi
Why don't you ask your local voter registrar? This is their job! If you don't know who that is, vote.org can help!!
cabalin
Thanks, I will consult with them as the election draws near
bripi
They are terrific, so get on that as soon as possible. Get your registration squared away and then put the GOP back where they belong.
quarkandcharm
This is dependent on state, do not rely on this! do the legwork.
MadameDex
Didn't it come out last election that provisionals are only tallied in event of a recount or something?
WellAckchually
It depends on the state. Generally speaking, no, every ballot is always counted. The press just doesn't wait that long to announce a winner
WellAckchually
For example in some places a voter has until that Friday to "cure" some kinds of provisionals. A winner will have been announced already.
WellAckchually
Or even the Monday after. Election results aren't real for typically about a month after election day.
AnonOmis1000
I've never voted in person. Do I have to go to a specific location?
gadlen
(in California) No but at any location besides "your" polling place, it's a "provisional" vote and has to be processed by hand, very slowly.
clubracer
Yes, you should have gotten the polling place’s information when you registered to vote.
Fleecie
You can check where to go at vote.org to find your location.
The701
https://www.usa.gov/confirm-voter-registration#item-214522 Go through the registration-check prompts. Hopefully you state's website will
The701
find your info and tell you your polling location.
CadeGreenbottle
59 Trumpsters don't want their master dragged out of his office come November.
morphis
59 imgurians tired of the same shitposting every day as if people don't know who the the U.S. president is.
Magsnificent
*January. Regardless of which way the election goes he stays in office until January 20th.
SneakyEmu2
If you're here illegally, you don't have a right to vote
atomicsockmonkey
What does that have to do with this?
SneakyEmu2
Wow you aren't even aware of a central issue to this?
atomicsockmonkey
Wow back. Do you think hordes of illegals voting is an actual thing and not made up bullshit?
SneakyEmu2
It's not up for debate anymore. California census counted illegals and is getting more representation at the federal level because of it.
atomicsockmonkey
Did counting them give them the right to vote?
cabalin
Yes! We need be prepared to deal with Republican fuckery, not just hope for the best. They’re counting on you not knowing your rights.
JoSTL15
As if this doesn’t happen in every election? It’s not partisan
cabalin
Tell me, when was the last time a Democrat was calling for an election to be postponed for maybe years like Trump is now?
JoSTL15
Your broad statement was ‘Republican fuckery’ regarding elections. I’m saying it’s not just one side.
Neogear
Point to where he says years. When was the last time a politician tampered with mail in ballots, oh ya this year and a number were democrats
TinyToez
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/25/politics/new-jersey-attorney-general-announces-voting-fraud-charges/index.html
cabalin
Doesn’t even come remotely close. Can you try again or is this the best you’ve got?
Tjitso
How can you not be on the register? Seriously asking.
theBonyEaredAssfish
(1/2) Serious answer: if you're somewhere other than the polling place for your address, you initially won't show up in the search.
theBonyEaredAssfish
(2/2) Literally if your polling place is the room next door, you have to widen the search. If it searched the entire US it would crash.
KRicci
If you fail to register in time, you're not automatically registered
Magsnificent
I got caught up in this last time. Some areas where there is a lot of people coming and going purge the rolls every so often 1/2
Magsnificent
So you could find yourself not listed in their registry. I got a provisional ballot and did that. Had lived there 10+ years same address.
Tjitso
In the Netherlands you need to register if you want to vote outside your hometown. If you fail to do that in time, you can't.
Magsnificent
I was voting where I lived and had lived for over a decade.
Magsnificent
Not sure why I was downvoted, it happened. Tunica County, MS. They purged their roles before the last Presidential election.
TheObstinateOne
"Ridin' with Biden" ... Am I the only one? Could they have chosen a worse slogan?
Evacipate628
How about "MAGA"?...
JHawke
Sure, how about "bed-in with biden"?
Redcatcher
Just want to see him try to stay coherent for three ninety minutes debates without commercial interruption. Must see TV
imaBme
Yes
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
If Biden gets elected and everything goes to shit, as I predict it will, maybe change it to "Hidin' with Biden."
zuken
Could be worse, the tangerine could stay in office. At last with Biden DeVos would be out. Already an improvement.
Orion371
Along with all the other Lackeys that Trump appointed.
whatspaulplayingtoday
Yeah. You're definitely not the only one. It's awful.
blackhalo
Bobeez
This is one election where literally any slogan would be fine, as long as the wannabe dictator is gone.
seedye
At this point, “Biden gives you herpes” would probably be a winning slogan
Zokalwe
Careful, thinking "Trump is so, so obviously awful that our candidate is guaranteed to win" has a bad track record...
seedye
True. Vote, bitches, vote! That said, lots of people were projecting on Trump based on his lack of record. Lots of tech bros I work with 1/
seedye
Saying, “Yeah, he’s lying about X to get the vote. Meanwhile, Y is what he stands for [despite him not saying anything about it].” 2/
seedye
They JUST KNEW. At least my co-workers figured out they’d been had after Spicer’s , “Inauguration major success! MILLIONS! PERIOD!” 3/3
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
Let me amend my past statements. Vote your conscience of you want libertarian. Vote Biden if you want to get rid of the Bully in Chief.
maxstout808
Vote Bully In Chief 2.0!
ADegenFromUpcountry
Yes I too wish to vote Libertarian so I can pay no tax and privatize the schools, roads, police and fire departments. Said nobody ever.
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
That’s not exactly how it works but you do you friend.
ADegenFromUpcountry
Please explain the finer points of Libertarianism, my friend. And don’t say “look it up yourself” - you’re asking us to vote a certain way..
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
libertarians endorse strong rights to individual liberty and private property; endorse drug decriminalization, open borders, etc
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
Look I’m not looking for a fight. Vote for who you want. Libertarian is a good third part vote.
DeitiesFeces
name one libertarian that doesn't suck of the prez. I'm not saying there isn't one I just doubt there is one.
StreaksOnTheChinaNeverMatteredBefore
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/libertarianism/
TagYourCatPosts
Depends on where you live. Just register! https://ballotpedia.org/State_by_State_Provisional_Ballot_Laws
lisichanchan
Agreed! Register and vote absentee ballot if you don’t want to go in person. Provisional ballots are not always counted FYI.
spittytrinkles
So if you vote outside of the state you are registered in, it doesn't count?
WellAckchually
Typically you won't be allowed to vote if you're outside your state. Some states allow you to register at a new address on election day
WellAckchually
And presidential elections are special. There are some circumstances where you can end up "in-between" states. If that happens you can get
WellAckchually
a ballot with just the presidential race on it.
spittytrinkles
honestly, Not American or Russian, I can't vote. Just trying to work out how it works.
spittytrinkles
I am Australian, we vote for the Party. Then the Party decides on the Leader. A different system, not all of our PMs get the popular vote.
TagYourCatPosts
To my knowledge, you can not. You would need to cast an absentee ballot by mail to your precinct.
Deafguy8
They’ll just make you wait 12 hours to get to the front, then another few hours while the 2 elderly election officials try and find 1/2
Deafguy8
The one Provo ballot they were issued. Democracy! 2/2
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
Let's start a movement of people to volunteer to work the polls. It's a paying job in a lot of states
Deafguy8
It’s a great idea but the deployment of poll workers is up to the ruling party of the state. This is largely why you see lines in cities.
Deafguy8
Look up Georgia and Wisconsin in the 2016 election. Total shit show on purpose.
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
Either way we will need poll workers. There will be a shortage due to most of them being elderly and high risk.
Deafguy8
You right Champ, you right.
middleburgh
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DankFiend
yea but the professional ballot wont count
tolatetocomment
I didn't realise there were professional ballots, I guess I'm an amateur voter.
MofongoBalls
Former BOE employee. Thats not true
middleburgh
provisional*
Thelrishlnquistion
The only thing I’m worried about is that fat orange bastard sabotaging the postal service.
Redcatcher
USPS loses over a Trillion a year. not a well run organization.
bripi
That is 100% GARBAGE and your bullshit is not welcome.
JustaDick
You mean like defunding and trying to privatise it? That doesn't sound like.. oh, he did that last year.
blackhalo
Kinda hard for him to do, when congress runs the post office.
marshmallow5452
It was kinda already done in 2006 with Congress mandating they prefund 75 years of retiree health benefits in a span of 10 years
Thelrishlnquistion
...Republicans?
marshmallow5452
Yes, it was a lame-duck session Republican controlled Congress
HulkHoganWeComingForYouNiiiigaaaaa
nfamouskingsley
Didn’t even read comment your username has me dying lol
CaptainThePirate
Every time I see that clip I die laughing. Sherri is the best she grabs his arm like “oh I know buddy, you just die right there I got you”.
Huhwhatcrazy
14 days each way not round trip with that calculation
Cotcan
So it gives you 14 days to look up and learn about the candidates you don't know to be able to vote for the person you most agree with?
azgrak
Do it sooner just in case. As a cost savings measure no overtime is currently allowed for PO workers.
DrunkSnowWhite
I remember tons of my classmates posting selfies of themselves mailing their absentee ballots last election...on the day of the election...
DrunkSnowWhite
Im sure they were all picked up, processed, and delivered to the appropriate polling stations before the election ended the next morning
AShartInTheWind
Even better, just fill it out and put it in the mail as soon as you receive it. Then you don't have to worry about it.
gablestout
NOT TRUE. It has to be POSTMARKED by election day, not rec'd by election day. We've been doing this in Washington State for over a decade
Snoopy101x
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mail-in-ballot-deadline/
sykoticflaw
And even then, the Trump donor now head of the USPS is fucking with the system, which will cause even further delays to the ballots
AFistfulOfDollHairs
It’s gonna be longer than that thanks to trump fortune.com/2020/07/24/usps-mail-delivery-postmaster-general-louis-dejoy-us-postal-service
sykoticflaw
And once again, we will see no repercussions and nothing happen to him, but "very strong words and condemnations." Fuck this country.
AFistfulOfDollHairs
It’s lacking in something to keep people like him in check, without being able to exploit his position.
sykoticflaw
Our country is based on the honor system, and it took one asshole saying "don't wanna you can't make me" to bring it crashing down.
AxelBeingCivil
It wasn't just one. There's a whole party of them. Trump would not be possible without his party's support.
AFistfulOfDollHairs
Well then, better honour the founding fathers by ending some tyrannical despot by passing him around the crowd and everyone gets a piece.
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
MandaTori
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TheyCallMeMrPigeonCuzImJustSoCoo
Didn't Kentucky lose the majority of their voting stations? Who doesnt have an excuse?
meebit
Kentucky changed it, anyone can, now.
gorima
map needs to be updated, Louisiana now allows COVID-19 as an excuse.
parkerh17
Shocked I get to just vote by mail in GA
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
Don't expect that shithead governor of yours to tell you that. Not that I can say much, we've got a major shithead governor here in Missouri
OmniverseDayDreamer
Considering so many new England states are blue, I'm surprised they want an excuse in comparison to red states...
arussell0027
Unless something has changed since the primary last month Kentucky has mail in ballots with no excuse. The town I live in encouraged it.
Beezlebubble
Not true in MA. They just sent out applications in the mail to all registered voters asking if they would like mail in ballots sent to them
Beezlebubble
This election. Source: MA resident and got one two weeks ago
drbloodbathmc
Same. I need to send mine in
Lethous
Oh look; the south is most of the hold outs.
FloridaMansNeighbor
It's kinda surprising that Floridians bed no excuse. Then again, Florida Man needs no reason for his actions. :P
FloridaMansNeighbor
*need
kalvious
I registered to vote by mail California when I turned 18. I am glad I check my registration though. It had me living in SoCal even though1/2
kalvious
I moved and change my registration to my new address 3 years ago. People please double check your registration to vote.
LordofSandvich
I guess Illinois ain't all bad.
Cranbananarama
What's with the handful needing excuses and why are excuses even needed?
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
Why else? Because a certain party (I'll let you guess which one) thrives on low voter turnout.
akahata
„An excuse is required?“ What authoritarian state rule is that again?!
meganical
Aha! You live in a weird state
ohyouknowthatoneguy
I live in Indiana and I can tell you how I've done vote by mail for years. "I'm going to be out of town." Boom. No questions. Just an ok.
ohyouknowthatoneguy
Not saying it's right but it's literally easier than it sounds.
Cilvaa
zigbigidorlu
Man, fuck Texas. We've gotten the worst of everything.
meganical
Your home taxes and mortgages are cheaper than many other states. So, not EVERYTHING
zigbigidorlu
Yes, but as a Millennial, I rent. And rent is higher than mortgage.
gaybro
Except wind energy
TacoBellBody
You can leave ya know. I did and ill never go back. ever.
yskah
Partner and I have talked about it, decided to stay. If everyone leaves it will definitely never change. Might as well fight for better.
zigbigidorlu
I did leave. I tried my best to get away from this place, but after I moved and got things unpacked, I fell asleep only to wake up /
zigbigidorlu
/ with my hands bound on somewhere I've never been. There was a guy across from me who noticed I was waking up, and he told me, /
zigbigidorlu
/ "Hey you, you're finally awake."
Soggybathroomsock
How is New York not vote by mail? They were hit the hardest of all states, they should know the potential consequences.
MaladaptedMedic
It’s a LOT better here now, thank god. It’s going up by .1% or so a day now in the city. Have to see how it’ll look in a few months
aleapafartandawhistle
Cuomo is playing it by ear. Primaries he passed an exec order that didn’t need an excuse:
aleapafartandawhistle
Sorry forgot the link: https://www.elections.ny.gov/VotingAbsentee.html Presumably a general election decision can still be made...
bortlp
Were... CA, FL, & TX have surpassed them in total cases
ABillionDucks
We also tested a lot of people...not per capita but you know
Soggybathroomsock
You're right, but still. It's kind of strange that a liberal state like NY wouldn't allow mail-in voting.
NutellaElephant
Lol not liberal at all. NYC is not NY. Just like CA is not LA, SF, and Silicon Valley.
Kylecornsfinger
Per capita new york is over double california and almost double texas. Florida is pretty close tho
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
They did vote by mail for the primary, then it took forever for them to give the results. Given that they usually call the election before..
TechnicolorCheeseWedge
.. the polls even close where I live, do you think the nation would be capable of waiting on results for more than a few hours?
Soggybathroomsock
I think people will wait as long as they have to. Maybe cable news will be a bit sad about it, but honestly, I couldn't care less about them
FreeThinkingGuy
And cough up your ID.
Tommytooturnt
Just don't cough on it.
1Plebian
But requiring an ID to vote is voter suppression.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
No one says that. Restricting the list of IDs so that it's difficult for specific demographics to vote is voter suppression. Look at /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Canada's voter ID rules. You can even show up with a neighbour to vouch for you if you have no ID at all. Link: /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e
FabulousBadass
You forgot the /s
YurgenGrimwood
Comments full of people angry because they thought you were and weren't sarcastic.
1Plebian
Yea, I kinda meant that though. Super predictable.
ADegenFromUpcountry
No it isn’t.
RoboCoonie
It historically was when certain groups of people could not get an ID.
ADegenFromUpcountry
1/2 Historically? I’m talking about right now. These are accepted as ID in most states: utility bill, paycheck, government check, birth...
RoboCoonie
If you don't acknowledge the impact of history, we're doomed to repeat it.
ADegenFromUpcountry
2/2 ... certificate, college ID, government document which shows your name and address"...
1Plebian
@InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde Your the third person from the cultural left today who has commented then muted. Funny how you have to do that.
1Plebian
There is no way to be demographic specific with ID. You're just worried you camp doesn't care enough. 8-12 dollars is in no way preventative
1Plebian
and 3-4 people are literally calling it suppression in this thread not to mention everywhere else. Every other verification process that
1Plebian
cares about specific identity, not just general qualification, has an ID, with photo, verification.
1Plebian
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/918/does-it-cost-25-to-obtain-a-free-voter-id-in-any-state
1Plebian
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search
1Plebian
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/20/calif_begins_removing_5_million_inactive_voters_on_its_rolls__140602.html
UltraBooster
I love how dems always talk “common sense gun laws” but think something as common sense as asking for ID to vote is outrageous
ADegenFromUpcountry
One thing has nothing to do with the other. 2/10 for effort.
UltraBooster
Dems want one thing, reps want another. Both are insured by the constitution, both have staunch supporters and opposition. Fair comparison
ADegenFromUpcountry
Dumb comparison because you can’t reduce things like gun laws or voter ID requirements to partisan themes. Unless you’re stupid, that is...
RoboCoonie
Why does it have to be the dems?
UltraBooster
Last i checked, it wasnt the republicans who thought minorities were too incompetent and poor to go to a DMV
AxelBeingCivil
Not incompetent; underserviced. DMVs are not in every community, and the hours of those that are may not be conducive to people working (1)
UncleTopher
Again, the main issue being that it typically requires some form of money to get a valid ID. Some states do allow free IDs, but not all.
1Plebian
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/918/does-it-cost-25-to-obtain-a-free-voter-id-in-any-state
ZachariasWolfe
The actual argument is that it should be free to vote. If the ID isn't free, voting isn't free. Most people equate ID with drivers license >
ZachariasWolfe
which requires paying for classes and testing. The fact that you can get just a state ID card is something not everyone knows, and even >
ZachariasWolfe
those aren't ENTIRELY free, though cheap. Michigan for example is $10. (Honestly don't know why it's not entirely paid for with taxes) >
FlyWithTheChris
Not trolling or anything, but how would you make sure people don’t vote twice if not with ID? Genuinely curious.
EuroCakes
Your suppose to only have to show your voters registration card. Paid ID’s keep lower income people from voting.
MissChickle
When I vote in MA, I give them my address/name and they cross it off the list
Eldibs
With the information you used to register to vote and something to verify, like a bill in your name at your registered address and your SSN.
AlkeneThiol
1) Just have a spreadsheet with everyone who can vote at a poll location. If they have ID proof, no prob. No ID, provis ballot. If no one
AlkeneThiol
2) else tries to vote using the same name by end of election day, ballot is good. If someone does, and they don't have ID to prove they
AlkeneThiol
3) are real. Another provis ballot. Address must be given for provis ballot. If two provis ballots for same name, if there is a recount, try
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
The problem with voter registration ID is it becomes like a tax to vote. Some of these states aren't just allowing you to use any government
ADegenFromUpcountry
“...a tax to vote”? What a cliche. Most, if not all, states accept government documents with your name/address or a birth certificate.
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Issued ID. They want people to register, pay for a voter ID. Then they regularly purge registration rolls of people living in certain
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Districts. Then tax them to get new IDs every election.
laDisparitionDesHeures
Aren't their names taken, even without an ID? Also, voting twice can lead to a world of pain, if discovered. Not sure anyone would risk it.
ZachariasWolfe
Well if they're using other people's names, not a big deal.
itsnotaraisin
Technically you're right
AmArschdieRaeuber
In Germany we get a registration slip with the mail. Does the US have anything like that?
Lemuffinmannn
Our state of Oregon is that way. And a couple others.
kgbofficer
We get one confirming we are registered, at least we're I live. I don't think we get one asking to register. I make sure to register early.
SirBagels
We can't use it as ID in Iowa iirc, but we get a registration slip confirming our registration location
AmArschdieRaeuber
I never needed ID, they usually just believe me that the registration slip is mine. But I vote in a village and they usually know me.
SirBagels
It's not an ID itself that is illegal, it's requiring a form of paid ID like a driver's license. If there was just a state issued ID
Intrspace
Americans don't have an ID card? Wtf
SirBagels
I mean are you surprised at this point. Everything over here is beyond fucked up. If I survive covid seriously considering moving abroad.
apbadogs
Serious question, how do people who have ZERO form of ID function in everyday life where an ID is required?
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
They just use cash. Another example is students who may have nothing besides a student ID. Student IDs tend to get targeted by voter ID /1
Kyshho
Yeah. For example, my only two pieces of photo ID are my Ontario health card and my passport from when I was 18. Passport is invalid because
Kyshho
Too old, and you gotta pay here to keep it active. My Ontario Health Card expires every 5 or so years, last time I had 0 legit ID to prove
CannabalisticSpaceRapArtist
There are state issued IDs, not only DL..
YourMemeSucksHarderThanaDyson
Not every state allows you to use any government issued ID. They make constituents purchase a new ID. And if you don't have other forms of
kgbofficer
I'm my state those are also paid for, which was the point they brought up.
SirBagels
Everyone got for free then it'd be fine. But if that doesn't exist requiring a DL is a form of poll tax and would lose in court
1Plebian
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/918/does-it-cost-25-to-obtain-a-free-voter-id-in-any-state
Lemuffinmannn
At least in oregon since '16 you are registered to vote when you get a DL. =]
BigTex1
That’s why Texas has a free voter ID option https://www.dps.texas.gov/driverlicense/electionid.htm
zuken
You'd think so, but the new poll tax in Florida was upheld