Uncle went to Vietnam through the draft, his stories are nuts, said they would put fecal matter or poisons on those spike traps, it was a long term thing, sick and die days later
In WW2, the Kachins (in Burma, allied side) taught the OSS (our guys) about panji traps. Same sort of stuff. We used it against Japanese without qualms.
They still have traps in Vietnam, but less "kill you" and more "btw it costs money to park your bike there, pay up please." Honestly though they're generally great to tourists.
There's an error with the grenade one though. The explosion erupts at the feet of the first solder but not the grenade. Plus grenades don't produce large orange explosions.
I don’t think it boots well for society to have funny Macarena music with death traps. And people are wondering why the world is getting emotionally colder, geez.
I saw these in real life when I visited the Cu Chi Tunnels in Ho Chi Minh City. It was pretty innovative and cool to see... Until I went to the Vietnam War Remnants Museum. Jesus Christ, what the Americans did to these people was abhorrent and there are still lasting effects. I wouldn't call myself a proud American, but I was absolutely ashamed by the end of it. We were not taught the truth in school.
Napalm and Agent Orange... two chemicals that were designed to kill the dense jungle foliage to take away the VietCong's homefield advantage... but then we learned it worked on people, too. Abhorrent doesn't even begin to describe the shameful atrocities committed there. "Just following orders."
Truly disgusting what was happening in Vietnam (and secretly in Laos and Cambodia), while patriotic propaganda played in the media at home. The birth defects from Agent Orange bothered me a lot.
I was just there a few weeks ago. It was very interesting crawling through the tunnels. Crazy to think in that area alone, they had about 200 kilometers of tunnels.
I went with my wife's family and was surprised with how many had no idea what the Vietnam war was about. Including those who were alive during the war. They were all shocked to find out the war was completely unnecessary and what the US did was pretty horrific.
Asymmetric warfare... How could the Vietnamese fight differently when their cities and villages were reduced to rubble by the American bombers, artillery and agent orange?
you mean the North Vietnamese? or the Viet Cong and PRG? or the Pathet Lao or the Khmer Rouge? I believe the first group could have just stayed where they were and they'd have only had to deal with the chinese and viet cong and khmer rouge.. viet cong didn't have cities iirc, nor any of the other groups, they mostly controlled hills or valleys if i understood correctly
The North Vietnamese could've just, I don't know, not raped and pillaged the south while playing useful idiots to the Chinese? I know it's popular to paint the Vietnam War as the French and Americans trying to maintain a colonial stranglehold over Vietnam but it's more that China was just trying to be the next colonizer. There's a reason that 1/3rd of the North Vietnamese population escaped to the South before the war even started... it certainly wasn't to escape *western* imperialism.
I mean it's popular to say that because it's 100% true. It's also not every single thing that happened in the entire history of Vietnam. But it is still true. Northern Vietnam turned to China because their attempts to get help from a former colony (America) were rejected. And all sides of that brutal war committed atrocities that literally were raping and pillaging. America's just got better PR than the nation's we invade.
Many escaped South because the CIA portrayed Operation Journey to Freedom in the highly politicized way things were done. And they escaped into a puppet government--corrupt, but anti-communist.
This is simply the opposite end of reductionist crap. In addition to Vietnam being more of the soviets playground(Vietnam and China never *really* got along). The first phase was Indochina vs. Colonial power. Then you had north Vietnam (with USSR meddling) and south Vietnam (with USA meddling). At that point, the conflict becomes very much ambivalent. Even when we ignore the rest of indochina. South Vietnam was only marginally more "nice" and less sovereign than north Vietnam. People in south>
Vietnam rebelled, North Vietnam supported them, South Vietnam responded with brutality, the US got involved in "secret" and behaved abhorrently, the north and the southern rebels behaved abhorrently, the North invaded, US openly entered and bombed basically the entire region to smitherines including with chemical agents.
Neither North Vietnam nor South Vietnam were particularly sovereign or free countries. People tend to sweep the anti-communist purges in South Vietnam under the rug. Because they need a "good" one.
I don't think they did. I interpreted as anyone who actively wants war, not anyone forced to fight to defend themselves from an invading or oppressive power. Wanting war and being willing to fight for freedom are two different things
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, this is very well known. But anybody who reduces complicated conflicts to good versus evil is an idiot who is fueling the evil.
The internet has this weird obsession with explicitly adding more context that everyone else implicitly understood just for the sake of patting themselves on the back.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
This feels like it was written by an AI...
GreenNinja22
Might just be me but thinking you can do these in other locations also and too as well
Goodmerlinpeen
isidorelucienducasse
Horrors of war
ReverseSyzygy
"ungrateful soldier"
LaszloCravensworth
Uncle went to Vietnam through the draft, his stories are nuts, said they would put fecal matter or poisons on those spike traps, it was a long term thing, sick and die days later
NonExistingWisper
bigleciezki
"Follow me for more gardening tips."
LSAH
The Aussies laid a large minefield, the VC or NVA dug them up and placed them in trees to ambush Aussie patrols.
slotheroll
Rendova
In WW2, the Kachins (in Burma, allied side) taught the OSS (our guys) about panji traps. Same sort of stuff. We used it against Japanese without qualms.
DeathGear
Fun fact, the OSS also trained the Viet Cong during WW2 on how to fight the Japanese.
SirWadeWilson
My father in law will not talk about his time in Vietnam. I assume because he saw shit like this first hand
RexDiablo
My friend’s big brother was killed by something similar to the tripwire grenade thing in ‘68. He got drafted and had only been over there a few weeks.
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
They still have traps in Vietnam, but less "kill you" and more "btw it costs money to park your bike there, pay up please." Honestly though they're generally great to tourists.
stevekemerer
These look sort of painful.
DumbDumnBumBum
noWhiteHorseHereJustBatturuPrinsu
Weirdest... Tell-Sell commercial.... ever
Eridianne
IncorrectCommentMeme
These animations are incredible
MrWobblyHead
There's an error with the grenade one though. The explosion erupts at the feet of the first solder but not the grenade. Plus grenades don't produce large orange explosions.
boostcreep
Yes those are the only errors lol.
unclesmeatball
& the narration is garbage. V bizzare
justplainvanilla
lurkingforeternity
I don’t think it boots well for society to have funny Macarena music with death traps. And people are wondering why the world is getting emotionally colder, geez.
HowlerTwo
I never thought I'd be bopping along to a video about Vietnamese traps with a smile on my face but goddamn you got me
Urinemywetsuit
I saw these in real life when I visited the Cu Chi Tunnels in Ho Chi Minh City. It was pretty innovative and cool to see... Until I went to the Vietnam War Remnants Museum. Jesus Christ, what the Americans did to these people was abhorrent and there are still lasting effects. I wouldn't call myself a proud American, but I was absolutely ashamed by the end of it. We were not taught the truth in school.
ricpaul
Visited Vietnam and Cambodja last summer. You get a very different perspective on both the Vietnam war and the Khmer Rouge era (backed by the UN...).
xenocrisis0153
Napalm and Agent Orange... two chemicals that were designed to kill the dense jungle foliage to take away the VietCong's homefield advantage... but then we learned it worked on people, too. Abhorrent doesn't even begin to describe the shameful atrocities committed there. "Just following orders."
HenryLongfellowIII
Truly disgusting what was happening in Vietnam (and secretly in Laos and Cambodia), while patriotic propaganda played in the media at home. The birth defects from Agent Orange bothered me a lot.
DeathGear
I was just there a few weeks ago. It was very interesting crawling through the tunnels. Crazy to think in that area alone, they had about 200 kilometers of tunnels.
I went with my wife's family and was surprised with how many had no idea what the Vietnam war was about. Including those who were alive during the war. They were all shocked to find out the war was completely unnecessary and what the US did was pretty horrific.
kickmyballsrealhard
Ouch
kumagororyu
Had a history teacher in HS tell us stories about his time in Vietnam. That's when I learned about the grenade in a can trap.
BobaFettApproves
Same, but it was an English teacher and he taught us what a spinner was…..
aloharamada
I tried googling it but can't find it (adding vietnam, war, guerilla, trap, etc.) but can't find any info rn, so...what's a spinner?
robingal1
Home Alone got serious
BigOldHandfulOfAnimeTitty
Jokes on them, I joined to die. Jokes on me, I'm still here.
ramram70
Australian soldier was asked by a sergeant: "Did you come here to die?" "No, I came here yesterday"
cryborg
ancalime
I'm most impressed by the trap that targets only ungrateful soldiers.
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CatsIsTheAnswer
Only the penitent man shall pass
MAN9000
It feels like the video was made by someone who is Vietnamese still taunting American soldiers. English is really off too.
Rendova
Pretty sure water buffalo would not have been impressed.
ancalime
Which side recruited water buffalos?
GlobalImageServiceCat
Asymmetric warfare... How could the Vietnamese fight differently when their cities and villages were reduced to rubble by the American bombers, artillery and agent orange?
azarza
you mean the North Vietnamese? or the Viet Cong and PRG? or the Pathet Lao or the Khmer Rouge? I believe the first group could have just stayed where they were and they'd have only had to deal with the chinese and viet cong and khmer rouge.. viet cong didn't have cities iirc, nor any of the other groups, they mostly controlled hills or valleys if i understood correctly
StellaMatutina
Is that akin to guerilla warfare?
codblackcocks
Yes but I think Asymmetric warfare is a broader term
BishlamekGurpgork
Basically the same thing with a new name - the tactics that let the small fight the big.
TorrentialUpPour
The North Vietnamese could've just, I don't know, not raped and pillaged the south while playing useful idiots to the Chinese? I know it's popular to paint the Vietnam War as the French and Americans trying to maintain a colonial stranglehold over Vietnam but it's more that China was just trying to be the next colonizer. There's a reason that 1/3rd of the North Vietnamese population escaped to the South before the war even started... it certainly wasn't to escape *western* imperialism.
GlobalImageServiceCat
wow, the classic "black on black crime" argument. bravo.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
I mean it's popular to say that because it's 100% true. It's also not every single thing that happened in the entire history of Vietnam. But it is still true. Northern Vietnam turned to China because their attempts to get help from a former colony (America) were rejected. And all sides of that brutal war committed atrocities that literally were raping and pillaging. America's just got better PR than the nation's we invade.
Rendova
Many escaped South because the CIA portrayed Operation Journey to Freedom in the highly politicized way things were done. And they escaped into a puppet government--corrupt, but anti-communist.
ilikehornets
Yeah, and South Vietnam could have held an election and seen how well that would've gone for their totally-not-a-puppet government
TorrentialUpPour
That counterpoint would be a lot more effective if the North wasn't even more of a non-democratic puppet government lol
mercyPandaRunner
This is simply the opposite end of reductionist crap.
In addition to Vietnam being more of the soviets playground(Vietnam and China never *really* got along).
The first phase was Indochina vs. Colonial power. Then you had north Vietnam (with USSR meddling) and south Vietnam (with USA meddling). At that point, the conflict becomes very much ambivalent. Even when we ignore the rest of indochina. South Vietnam was only marginally more "nice" and less sovereign than north Vietnam. People in south>
mercyPandaRunner
Vietnam rebelled, North Vietnam supported them, South Vietnam responded with brutality, the US got involved in "secret" and behaved abhorrently, the north and the southern rebels behaved abhorrently, the North invaded, US openly entered and bombed basically the entire region to smitherines including with chemical agents.
mercyPandaRunner
Neither North Vietnam nor South Vietnam were particularly sovereign or free countries. People tend to sweep the anti-communist purges in South Vietnam under the rug. Because they need a "good" one.
GadenKerensky
Considering modern-day Vietnam hates China far more than it does America, from what I hear.
TorrentialUpPour
Ironically the leftist ideologues in the North were very pro-America before Chinese influences creeped in.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
I feel like anyone who actively wants a war either doesn't understand what that really entails, or they're a psychopath.
Nalianna
They're not fighting in it. They're safe in their home country.
GlobalImageServiceCat
In USA they are just "businessmen"
Emjayen
No one accused those fulfilling their fantasy of going overseas to murder brown people with impunity of being intelligent.
Astramancer
M*A*S*H put it best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUeBMwn_eYc
Zreen
Most people who want war aren't the ones fighting in it
ElbowDeepInUserSub
And all of them fall into those 2 groups.
SpectralSpider
And the harm done by them is the same, so even if they aren't psychopaths conventionally, they might as well be.
electricwizard
There's war and there's occupation vs resistance. Can't lump both sides together.
Alphabeticrazy
I don't think they did. I interpreted as anyone who actively wants war, not anyone forced to fight to defend themselves from an invading or oppressive power. Wanting war and being willing to fight for freedom are two different things
otiumCatulli
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, this is very well known. But anybody who reduces complicated conflicts to good versus evil is an idiot who is fueling the evil.
Asadsadsadclown
They are getting high on the fumes of delusions of WW2.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Well I certainly didn't mean to lump 'people who don't actively want a war' in with 'people who invaded another country'.
Crymson831
The internet has this weird obsession with explicitly adding more context that everyone else implicitly understood just for the sake of patting themselves on the back.
doobleroobin
Some people conflate the two in bad faith.
BackToTheOriginalUsername
The one dancing had it coming...
jeejeejerrycotton
I'm pretty sure they all had it coming.
Oracle547
A lot of those kids were drafted...
jibbo883
For a short period it was victory dance
hetriedtokillmewithaforklift
He only had himself to blame
pianostacatto
They was some sick footwork though! I sense a Michael Jackson inspiration!
DrKonrad
Keeps dancing with that arrow through his chests
CloakedFigure
“Jesus wouldn’t be able to save him”
unclesmeatball
I think he was dancing because it was coming, the arrow that is
BackToTheOriginalUsername
Hm....I wonder if it was it a celebratory dance or a resigned one?
Xandr37
Someone told him to get down
Fhant
And he did.... Twice.
ninjafartball
spLagger
i think that's how to avoid injury, can see it clips through him and he just keeps dancing
BackToTheOriginalUsername
I'll try that next time I'm about to get hurt. I hope this technique isn't limited to arrows.
spLagger
works in a lot of situations, but effectiveness is based on your dance skills, so your mileage may vary