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Not the best but one of the best.
Dec 21, 2016 4:22 AM
ausbunyip
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Not the best but one of the best.
superanth
He was indeed, but with a ridiculously hostile congress he didn't get as much done as he could have.
MajDSaster
Well, you're welcome to your opinion.
OxidizedShackleford
I voted Obama in 08 . He seemed like a very down to earth guy. Didn't he get us all day breakfast at Macdonald's?
Cptnlnsan0
If Bombing innocent civilians and inciting war with Russia is your idea of great, Im ok with that
stabbedintheface
Presidents for the most part are hard to judge in the present. I think it's one of the rare times history has to be the true judge.
PffftNext
Maybe his domestic policies were good idk, but his foreign policies were as toxic and imperialistic as the US always is. Which is fine if
PffftNext
you only care about america
BenLouw
You fucking idiot he was useless
krammit89
What made him a great president? I like the guy's personality, but as a president, he hasn't met many of his initial promises.
MericanNightmare
He actually met most of his campaign promises...
InternetGoodGuy
Politifact keeps track of this. They rate him at 48% for keeping promises the rest are split between compromise and failed
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
I think his platforms were great. He as a politician, was poised and able to play the game well. I think history will be kind to him. But...
NorthFever
He's already turning into this generation's Jimmy Carter...
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
I think he got little accomplished that he wishes to, I think he went way off his platform in terms of drones, privacy, etc.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Exactly my issues with him, well said.
barnaclebillthesailor
Comments right now...
iLynux
Colossal mistakes were made.
Nomulus
I'd like some context for this picture. Did the kid deserve it?
Fialovich
He sure was the coolest.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
It's a shame that doesn't translate into "good president"
kirmokum
i'm pretty sure he was operating on a level that will only be understood in at least a few years time.
Pridestalker
With Trump coming up, hindsight is a powerful thing.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
People say that ever time there's a new President
xoverthirtyx
Secret kill list. Drone bombing sovereign countries (& kids!), record deportation, expanded war, Gitmo's open, prosecuted whistle blowers...
thecoldmage
I don't believe that number accurately reflects how people feel. Over the last 8 years, Dems have lost about 1000 elected offices.
Zasumbadji
RomneyCare, Bush tax cuts, weak symbolic Wall St. regulations, illegal wiretapping, Libya, hunting whistleblowers, drone crimes. I disagree.
ForReasonsOfScience
Don't forget the NDAA, the TPP, not shutting down Guantanamo Bay, 8 different military interventions. Yeah, he was pretty terrible.
ForReasonsOfScience
That's not to say he's done nothing good. Releasing non-violent drug offenders, the overtime law, finally banning drilling in the arctic.
ForReasonsOfScience
But again, this is the guy that was totally silent while human rights violations were being committed against Native Americans at the behest
ForReasonsOfScience
of his donors in North Dakota. Allowed the teachers' union to be dismantled after occupy Wall St. Yeah, Obama is, at best, a mixed bag.
Jironobou
Thanks Obama
MrMango415
AMacGyver
I didn't vote for him either time, but I'd gladly take a third term of him over the cheesedoodle we have incoming.
Monochromatism
He didn't particularly fuck anything up. I have some complaints about his idea of a working economy though.
revelator
Well you're clearly not one of the parents whose children he killed with drone strikes.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Ya he did tho, the DNC is very good at keeping things covered up tho.
whyteraven74
Maybe you should have some complaints about the economy with the private sector.
OpenMindOpenMouth
America spent 2 terms hating him so much, bet you wished he could have had a third term
MemesNDreams16
I think we can argue Bush (Son) and Obama were the most cringey and hated eras in Modern American History
OpenMindOpenMouth
Not American so can't argue. Media portrayed Obama better than bush but the hate-fest trump v Clinton makes Obama look like an angel.
MemesNDreams16
The Media is sadly why we're in this mess. At least you guys in Europe have your head on your shoulders unlike us.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
....no :/
bbwsrock
OpenMindOpenMouth
I watched and laughed way too long at this
SluppyB
I'm not from the States, but out of curiosity, is there a widely accepted "best" president?
BearsBeetsBattlestarGalacticaPeriod
Kennedy for sure.
BearsBeetsBattlestarGalacticaPeriod
And a lot of people loved Clinton because of his economic policies.
FilthyRedmond
Washington, Lincoln, Teddy and FDR (my favorite), Kennedy, Eisenhower
ImHighTheScienceGuy
Teddy was an irresponsible man child war monger who didn't realize the error of his ways until near death.
cheesetres
Washington or Lincoln. Washington for establishing the young democratic nation. Lincoln for preserving it.
BakedFreshDaily
Not really. Washington, Lincoln, and Kennedy are all pretty popular, but no widely accepted best.
Muffdiver9
FDR, Washington, Lincoln and Truman are gonna be your big four. There are probably about ten who really stand out.
kschrodt
Jackson stands out. Not for anything good, but he stands out.
Muffdiver9
He actually does stand out for a lot of good things if you know more about his presidency than the stuff people fixate on.
KayeFaye80
Not really, but there's a select handful that are generally regarded as the best. However, I imagine if a poll went out - Lincoln might win
mkyner
Millard Fillmore.
DrPhillipMahmoufWifarts
James Buchanan
Keairan
What the other replies said, though Monroe, Jefferson and the Roosevelts are all well thought of as well.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Non-black people seem to think Reagan was god.
kschrodt
*non-black conservatives. Dont know many liberals who like him.
UnpopularToTheMax
I think that's a fairly popular opinion...
DeadVince
I agree
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Especially on Imgur where the majority have a democratic point of view.
burknoe
Lol not on Imgur dude. Not at all.
Nomulus
I've seen way more positive opinions for Obama than negative.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Are you serious? This place leans more left than my dick
Cela84
Any conservatives out there want to give the reasons they hate him so much? Or FLOTUS for that matter. Don't say race, legit policy reasons?
DonutJustice
I don't hate him personally. Seems like a good guy and good father. I completely disagree with this stance on role of govt 1/
DonutJustice
And his intrusion in the market. We currently have an economy propped up by low interest rates forcing savers into the stock market 2/
DonutJustice
Which has only masked the problem with the market and created yet another bubble that another prez will be blamed for. 3/
DonutJustice
And Obamacare has been a dismal failure increasing costs for everyone while not improving health care.
Butane9000
I disagree with his policy of govt expansion like with healthcare, EPA rulings, immigration and much of his foreign policy which has made 1/
Butane9000
the world more unsafe by destabilizing the middle east and turning decent secular ME/African countries into shit storms like Libya. 2/2
FoeOfFauxPho
NSA program, trillions in debt, more destabilization of the middle east, obamacare loved by insurance companies and hasn't lowered prices
Cela84
For me, I hate Bush because he invaded a country under false pretenses and spoke and acted in a manner that was embarrassing to the country.
jakcspellgood
I have a feeling you're not going to like the new guy then.
mthrndr01
When W was reelected I thought we'd bottom politically. As it turns out, I was wrong.
GilaMonsieur
I don't hate him, but I don't like how blind his supporters are to his mistakes. Their shared ideology creates a strong bias.
ForReasonsOfScience
Been seeing people get downvoted for point out his 7 interventions, passing a right wing health care system, never regulating Wall St.,
ForReasonsOfScience
turning a blind eye to the human rights violations against Native Americans in North Dakota carried out by the police and Energy Transfer
ForReasonsOfScience
Partners. It's sad but it's exactly what Hillary supporters did. Ignoring the full list of corruption, shit voting record, and other baggage
CommanderWilliamTRiker
I've never heard any detractors say they hate him because he's black, so fuck off. I dislike him for a handful of policy things -
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
You choosing not to hear them doesn't mean he's not had incredibly racist attacks mounted against him.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
The racism accusations are mostly leveled against the birthers, who "just sense" there's something "foreign" about him.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Iran payoff, ridiculous drone usage, Keystone, Gitmo, comments about police shootings, ISIS, O'care
icommentbutdonotreply
Not so great. He got rid off habeas corpus, pushed NAFTA & TPP, increased oil production, expanded the wars, punished whistleblowers etc.
HereInDuckburg
Set race relations back 40 years...
ObamasBigBlackCaucus
I'm honestly curious why you think this, and what Obama himself did to set them back?
CommanderWilliamTRiker
For me, it was when he came out and said "If I had a son, it would be Trayvon Martin" before ANY real evidence came out.
SpongebobReferences
By siding with the terrorist group BLM
whyteraven74
If you think BLM are terrorists, perhaps you know when the next Klan meeting is.
SpongebobReferences
You're a fucking moron if you think they aren't a terrorist group.
burknoe
In my overgeneralized opinion: by being black and implying blacks were justified in their outrage over police killings. Basically.
whyteraven74
Well when you have video of cops killing unarmed black people and the cops don't get punished, people get outraged.
HereInDuckburg
That was ABSOLUTELY a very big part of it. On almost every controversey that the media made into a race story, he took sides.
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
But it wasn't the white side so they hate him for it.
burknoe
Well... He's black. And has a black perspective. So... Yeah...
3YearsaLurker
He was somewhere between best and worst... maybe average sometimes... mostly...
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LeGrandPeg
It's a beige alert.
SlyMrFox
Tell my wife...hello.
amayawolf
This is how I feel. As a person he was great. As a president he was eh. I admire him more for what he was trying to do than what he did
Heterosapian
Your neutrality sickens me.
TheGuyWhoBeatsHisMeat
What about my net neutralIty?
Hobbes314
Don't worry about that, news article came out yesterday we've got about 5 more months of the internet as we know it
KramervsKramervsPredator
What turns a man neutral?
YouWillNotLikeThis
Given the senate he had to fight i'm welling to bet he'll bee rememberd as a great president. He has gotten a lot of things done
Uriah30
You are remembered for success, not for having obstacles.
YouWillNotLikeThis
*having succes in the face of obstacles.
IdeaOfLove
Most of the things he's done have not been progressive. Renewed Bush tax cuts for wealthy, renewed Patriot Act, drone bombings up by 1000%.
IdeaOfLove
Regime change in Libya and Honduras, bombed 8 countries, deported record # of immigrants, prosecuted record # whistleblowers.
Apowerbeyoundagun
He was and people will see that fact with the new guy. The world used to respect us with Obama. Now not so much.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
"respect"
SpongebobReferences
Is that why we gave Iran a billion dollars in an agreement they didn't even sign? The world doesn't respect him because he's a pushover
SpongebobReferences
How can anyone be stupid enough to downvote this? It's like you just blindly support him in every decision he makes, when most are wrong
HillaryClintonsEyes
It was Iran's money originally we just refused to give it to them until now. The nuclear deal and the money were two separate things.
HereInDuckburg
Excuse me but thats literally the most uniformed thing i have ever heard. NO ONE respected Obama. This is no secret!
bbwsrock
Draws red line they crossed it did nothing.
ItTastesLikePurple
Said the person who completely forgot how America was viewed in the later Bush years.
HereInDuckburg
Predecessor and the person who came after him
HereInDuckburg
Bush never went on an apology tour for the better part of a decade. Played a hell of a lot less golf too. Also showed some respect for his
stonerlibtard
Obama didn't crash any planes into buildings
ProfessorBlackHole
Obama has had less vacation time than the last 4 presidents. Don't say bullshit.
HereInDuckburg
Being that he has spent over $80 million on trips and vacations you can kindly close your fuck hole. Thanks.
DrivebyViktum
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.................................Sorry.
HereInDuckburg
Yes, i couldnt believe theres a single person on this planet who thinks that. The terrorists are all laughing
DrivebyViktum
That's why i am here, to absorb the downvotes ! Lay 'em on!
SpongebobReferences
Look at all these uninformed liberals. This is why I'm slowly making the switch to Reddit
Whatimlisteningto
Don't let the door hit ya on your ass on the way out
HillaryClintonsEyes
Good. Now fuck off.
SpongebobReferences
Yes, you are.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Get. The fuck. Out
SepiaSkies
Oh lord, these drama queens. Gonna call us all cucks too, and run off to your safe space with Milo?
ProfessorBlackHole
Look at all these uninformed conservatives. This is why I'm slowly making the switch to Reddit
SpongebobReferences
You seriously think the world respects us? You're actually defending that?
CaptainShutTheFuckUp
Brit here. Obama was widely respected and we think you've lost your fucking minds electing Trump.
chandelier
Netherlands here. What do you mean by respect?
HORSECOCKALYPSE
Great president with a shite congress.
Whatimlisteningto
Super shitty Congress.
PandAnomoly
Well, it's IS the opposite of progress...
sbury
Shite president with a shite Congress. I say this objectively as an observation of his actual record of accomplishment over 8 years.
sbury
He has some achievements of note, but they are few and far between. He leaves a legacy of partisanship, executive rule by fiat, and general1
sbury
but there it is. It's a record that speaks for itself 3
sbury
foreign policy ineptitude/incompetence. I don't think he's some kind of demon who actively is/was seeking to destroy the country 2
ForReasonsOfScience
He could have passed single payer health care in 2008 because he had a super majority in Congress. He chose not to.
ANOMNOMNOM
I'm broken... I read that as "single player"
bamcockseverywhere
As an intern for the 111th congress: lol no fuckin way A) cause he wasn't president yet in 2008 and B) no way would the blue dogs vote yes
RedWingsofSteel
The reason he went with the ACA was that it was based on an old nixon plan that he hoped would get gop support. Hoped.
ForReasonsOfScience
You got downvoted for being correct. Yes, the core of the ACA is the individual mandate which was created by Nixon. And yes, he got 0 GOP
ForReasonsOfScience
support for a right wing health care program; which shows they don't care about policy substance, they care about playing for a team.
RedWingsofSteel
It probably would have worked better if it took effect in the 70s. Maybe insurance wouldn't have been the malevolent titan it is today.
TakotsuboOkazaki
With his current approval rate of 55% that would make this a marginally popular if not neutral opinion.
KeeperOfTHEGIF
with his agressive foreign policy (worse than Bush jr) and high approval ratings, I am afraid US going in a wrong way.
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
Trump is far more aggressive so you're probably right about the whole wrong way thing.
WalkinCrow
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx For a 2 term president it's good
cixelsyd
Mm...stats... you should reply to the main post with that, mate...worth seeing.
MrBearington
Treblaine
Sooo do we need a Middling Opinion puffin?
Jonanon
I feel like his approval rating is largely manufactured by the same folk who said Hillary had a 90% chance of winning. Media Narritave.
thewx
Just him or most presidents?
OhGodImHorribleAtNames
55 is pretty insane when you consider that approval ratings plummet near the end of terms.
CaboosetheteamkillingFucktard
It also helps that a lot of people are realizing that we had it pretty good compared to what comes next.
Lancori
Please. I know he's made some questionable choices as far as advisors and secretaries go but he isn't even in office nor put out policy yet
Lancori
Holy mother of god I'm loving the downvoted. God forbid someone wants actual facts and fuck-ups rather than hearsay. Bring it on, Imgur!
ProfessionalAsshole
"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - George Orwell
SufferinSappho
"Hasn't put out policy yet" is an indictment, not a defense.
JohnFloorwalker
1)He put a climate change denier to head the EPA. He said Hillary was corrupted by Goldmen Sachs execs, then proceeded to appoint them to
JohnFloorwalker
2) his cabinet. I feel like Trump's presidency will just be excuses after excuses of the stupid things he's doing. No accountability.
CaboosetheteamkillingFucktard
Questionable is un understatement.
Lancori
He hasn't even DONE anything to be hated for! Fuck man, judge him because he's actually fucked the country over, not cuz you think he will.
Horus175
For a lame duck president whose party lost the election, that's not bad.
AllAmericanSmartAss
What do you mean by lame duck president? I'm honestly curious why you have that opinion.
chandelier
Lame duck is a term used for the presidency when the successor is already elected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_duck_(politics)
Kemyo
I legit didn't know that. Thanks!
CaptainPickleFarts
But isn't some of that as a result of "look at what you're about to have"? His numbers went up the more legit of a possibility Trump became
Nntropy
Isn't every popular opinion in some way measured with respect to something else?
LannistersSendTheirRetards
I liked him. I thought it was funny he got torn apart for taking so many vacation days when Bush took like an entire year off in total
glitchead
Bush took more than a year off in total
DickMercenary
Lucky.. my family just bitches about how he left criminals out of jail because "He doesn't care.. his family has bodyguards for life."
CyBercrook
It's only bad when the guy doing it is the one you voted against.
Mgiggity
You ain't seen nothin yet. Trump owns golf resorts. Nuff said.
ek321
As if the POTUS ever gets anything you or I, or our bosses, or the CEO would recognize as a "vacation" or "time off."
OzmaAsimov
He got torn apart for a lot that he did better than many other presidents. Probably because he was born in Hawai'i. Fucking Hawai'i.
TheLastSouthernGentleman
Didn't bush just work from his ranch as part of those vacation days? I can't fault the man for that. I'd do the same if I could
Humblecandy
He didn't spend a lot on his vacations because he went to the ranch, but to say he worked from the ranch is generous at best
freeemail
every presidents work during vacations. but having said that, vacations mean you don't get to receive state guests, travel, dealing w senate
HumanInhuman
Oh he's a nice guy. Very charismatic. His policies, however are shit. In fact, when he touts hours policies, people like them. 1/2
HumanInhuman
When some one else tries to champion them, they are rejected. He's a cult of personality.
Believemefolks
So his policies had nothing to do with going from losing 800,000 a month under Bush.To 75 straight months of job growth?Or bringing Fannie &
MG42CHEF
Part time job growth or full time job growth? What about lowest labor force participation since the 70's?
ek321
Ahhh, the LFPR. It's amazing. Almost as if some particularity large generation of Americans is currently reaching retirement age.
Believemefolks
Freddie to heel so people would stop losing their homes?Or the stock market almost tripling or helping bring down Co2 emissions?
FragileReality
All my family prattles on about is how many vacays he took. I show them a direct comparison of days between him and Prez WBush and they -
FragileReality
-switch to 'he's made us look like a pussy.' You just can't fix stupid.
stabbedintheface
Press anyone on Trump and they will immediately divert to how evil Hillary is.
zigzagler
There should be a name for this phenomenon. In a vacuum of subject matter where Trump is the only topic, Hillary will spontaneously appear.
kalimakalimaaa
Zero Point Hillary
stabbedintheface
As someone who didn't like Hillary but really doesn't like Trump. It makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion
StressedOut
I'd say it's a red herring logical fallacy.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I am a gun-crazy liberal and I am going to miss President Obama, he is a class act.
OxidizedShackleford
Your username is awesome
ek321
[16] years since the President's personal life was the subject of national scandal
racecarbedx
There are more of us! Damn I thought I was one of the few left.
tbomber
Hi there,fellow liberal gun totin' peeps!Signed...liberal assault weapon aficionado.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I just got a PTR 91, OMG, it is so awesome.
ulfbehrt78
I though I was the only one...
Onenaghi
Proud gun-owning liberal from Texas here.
xKeiserSozex
Gun toting liberal here. Conceal carry permit and AK owner. Hello from FL!
bippityboppitybuttsex
I have an IL CCL, and too many ARs...
xKeiserSozex
Just bought 3 AR lowers recently. Hoping to finish them soon. Can't wait!
bippityboppitybuttsex
I have built 15 ARs (5.56, 308, 9mm, 300) and I have this giant pile of parts left, and I keep realizing, 'ooo, i just need X to build...'
bippityboppitybuttsex
... another rifle. And the cycle restarts. I am getting sick of the AR platform now (into PTR 91s and DSA FALs now)
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
How tho
sbury
It's called a doublethink.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I believe in single payer healthcare, civil rights for all, a living wage and guns for everyone.
ProfessorBlackHole
10/10
flnbar
Amen, brother!
ioscius
i believe that two gay husbands should be able to adopt kids and protect their pot plants from intruders with guns.
JohnFloorwalker
Because people can think for themselves, & not rely on anyone else to form their political beliefs.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
What are you talking about?
bippityboppitybuttsex
I believe in single payer healthcare, civil rights for all, a living wage and guns for everyone.
sbury
So, your like for Obama is independent of his gun policies whilst couching your opinion in the guise of 'pro-gun' liberalism
bippityboppitybuttsex
What gun policies? He hasn't done anything.
sbury
L. O. L. Now I know you're just trolling.
keenidiot
Most of the liberals I know own guns, outside of the cities. Better gun control! = bun banks.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I live in a suburb and own a crapton of guns.
keenidiot
I have no idea why autocorrect turned gun ban to bun banks, but it's funny so I'm leaving it
trippopotamus
Definitely need more bun banks
kschrodt
What would that entail? Are we talking honey buns or hairdo buns? Or buns buns? Or rabbits, fuck, why are there so many buns?
flarflarf
hello fellow liberal gun person
bippityboppitybuttsex
There are dozens of us. Dozens.
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
You fuckers must be the real minority
JohnFloorwalker
Not really. There are tons of us in the South.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
There are dozens of us, DOZENS! ... not me though
Treblaine
You'd be surprised. Nonsense gun laws suppress so many who'd otherwise vote democrat.
Treblaine
(1) For example, Trump won Michigan with 30k less votes than Bush got in that state in 2004, where he lost that state.
Treblaine
(3) so why now? Clinton has a LONG history of gun legislation which seems totally detached from reality to most gun owners.
Treblaine
(2) this election was critically down to democrats in key states just not coming out to vote, democrat party's gun policy is no small part.
Billyboblopeze
Yo Christian liberal, pro lgbt, pro marajuana, pro gun, pro choice, but also for the death penalty (for crazies). Extreme minority.
JohnnySooshi
More than just you though. My gf is the same way and I'm relatively close (not religious and forced labor in place of the death penalty).
flarflarf
yeah i think there's actually more of us than people might think.
JohnFloorwalker
Is there like a place where people like us can meet & chill away from the cares of the world? Can we make our own High Hrothgar?
flarflarf
there's more and more of us every day. Trump made two of the leftiest people i know run out and buy guns.
SexualViolence
From someone that's not American it's crazy that this reaction is a thing. When brexit happened i had tea and made a shitty FB post haha
flarflarf
well that's Britan for you. Might want to talk to other europeans about it, like maybe the Poles or the Czechs.
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
Well that's fair. We're a lefty household and post election have been doomsday prepping. No guns yet though.
dpiddy101
thats a little much dont ya think?
flarflarf
Not obsessive about it. I just think the jews might have wanted a gun or two, so I keep a couple AR-15s stored somewhere safe. Just in case.