This is kind of a big deal at least to me...(long post warning)

Dec 17, 2017 8:49 AM

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This is kind of a big deal at least to me...(long post warning)

Long story incoming, apologies in advance but I have to get this off my chest.

So basically I work for a nonprofit organization taking care of people with disabilities in a group home. My overnight responsibilities mainly involve cleaning various parts of the house since my residents are asleep and never really need me until 6am, which is when I help them get ready for the day. Every night I am assigned a different chore to do: clean the side bathroom, clean the main bathroom, clean the kitchen, etc etc, in addition to any laundry and all that fun housekeeping stuff. These are things I never minded doing since cleaning really isn't that difficult, but I digress.

This one lady, we'll call her Karen, used to be my particular group home's assistant manager, and from day one of working she was rude, and tended to bully me and other staff over the most minor things, such as washing the top of the cabinets in the kitchen, or scrubbing ALL the doors in the house while my residents are trying to sleep...Just really out there stuff I never actually thought of doing when cleaning my own house. I find out later its because Karen claims she has OCD and so that means in her eyes, even if I do my best with my chores, its still not good enough in her eyes. Every night I would come into work wondering if there was another scathing or demeaning note demanding I do some other menial or sometimes downright pointless task, and it actually made me nervous to come in because even if I did what I was asked to a T, it never seemed to matter. My actual manager went along with her bullshit for awhile, but eventually the two were at each other's throats due to their own disagreements and so Karen left to work in the company's office building instead doing god knows what. For a time, we had peace, and then I found out my house manager had taken a position in a different company. So what does Karen do? Apply and get the job of house manager for my group home. Well fuck.

At first, things seemed to be pretty okay with Karen in charge, but just as I feared, it all started again. First, I was pulled to have a private staff meeting with her and -her- boss, Jessica (once again, fake name used for privacy purposes here), and she went over what the new chore chart was, what her expectations were, and despite my short term memory loss, did my best to mentally note what she was focusing on and pointing out so that things could get done as she wanted, as she was the boss now and I had no reason to really argue against that even if some of the things she wanted me to do were absolutely pointless (IE, sweeping the porch outside in the dead of winter, like...huh?). The meeting wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, but it did give me some hope that things weren't going to be so bad. How wrong I was.

A few weeks go by, and I follow that chart religiously, save for one time where I had covered a shift for someone and I was told to my face by Karen herself not to worry about that chore because I had to 'sleep' that night so that I could be rested enough to give medication to my residents the next morning. That sounds odd, I know, but during these overnight shifts, two staff were on duty, and the one who was 'asleep' for in case of an emergency was in charge of doing the medications in the morning, which if messed up, could infact kill someone. The person who was originally doing that sleep shift had called out, and the only other person available was someone not certified to give medications, meaning I had to do it. After that week was over, Karen demands why I didn't do the chore that night I covered for a co-worker, in which I politely reminded her that she told me not to so that I could rest and not make a medication error that morning. She promptly apologized for her mistake and I felt a measure of relief. A few days later, we had a holiday party at a restaurant and everything seemed well and at peace once more. The week goes by without incident, until that Sunday when the new assistant manager Tina (do I have to repeat myself again?) approaches me the moment I clocked in. She was brand new to the company (only working about a month), and seemed nervous as she holds some papers in her hand. Oh boy...

I won't go into detail about what this said exactly, as I don't have a copy on hand at the moment, but it was a 'written warning' going on about how none of my chores were apparently being done, how things I weren't even asked to do weren't being done, how I neglected to do the chore for one covered Thursday night shift I mentioned before (Which was to full clean a basement no one ever goes down into because reasons), and that if I wasn't getting the message, I was 'more then welcome' to talk to her about how to do these things -her- way...for the sixth time total since being with this company (including her time as an assistant manager herself in the beginning of the year). This was the last straw, and I can honesty say that it was the biggest slap to the face I had received while working for this company. Tina, the new assistant manager, had completely agreed that Karen was in the wrong, and clearly had no idea how to really deal with people in general. Thus, she gave me the blessing to write a response on the back of this document, in which I reiterated about how Karen was mistaken about me not doing my work, reminding her for a second time about being told to rest on that covered shift, and that I basically refused to be bullied during my time working here again, whereas before I would have probably just signed it meekly and been miserable and hating myself for not standing up for myself.

So basically my issue now is I'm worried about the outcome of this whole thing, even though I was polite in my message, yet firm on my stance, even if I indirectly called her a liar in the process. By now, Karen should take me to be the kind of person not to stand up for myself unless I know I am in the right, lest I come out looking like a dumb ass which only would make me feel even worse. I keep thinking about worse case scenarios, mainly the confrontation that's inevitable, which is one of my biggest fears. If anyone can offer some advice, any at all, I'd be eternally grateful.

TL:DR - OP stood up for herself since she's being treated like shit by a shit manager, and is scared she is going to get in trouble as a result.

Sorry, no tax here. Just a rant. Deal with it.

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8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Double teaming an employee is a big no no and so is a manager admitting they have a mental health problen. Report her and take her job. :)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Bullet list facts & achievements & Have for meeting. Listen without interrupting. Stay calm. Don't get personal. Get written resolution.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Have had a manager like this. Ended up walking out on a job I liked cause of it. Please keep us updated!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Retaliation from her isn't legal. Consider complaining to her line manager about her conduct. Keep a diary of everything going on.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I am sure there is a formal complaint process that you should be following with the owner. Do it. Hostile work environment is no joke.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Good on you! That is not easy, standing up to a toxic boss - It may get a bad reaction, but you need to look for work elsewhere if it does

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It is way more detrimental to your happiness than most people realize

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fuck you Karen

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You should start taking a note book everywhere you go and write down everything Karen tells you with date and time. So when there is (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

a formal complaint for the next time you can just take out your notebook and tell them when Karen told you to do what and when. (2/2)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There is too much demand in the job you do to put up with her BS. Stand your ground and WALK AWAY for your sanity, if need be.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

When someone changes names of people in their stories, I always imagine that they didn't change the names and just say that for shits n gigs

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I would love to know how this turns out, as I am being treated badly at work my my boss and his boss. Thinking about calling HR, but scared.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If that's true its literally illegal for them to retaliate for going to HR on their asses. Do the thing my friend!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Congrats!!! It's tough finding the balance between following your job orders and not being bullied by unpleasant bosses

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I work I'm the same environment, overnight too. Good luck, stand your ground.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Thank you so much, that means a lot to me :)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I’ve never heard of a facility allowing a caretaker to “sleep” during a shift while their watching residents.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just cause someone has OCD doesn't mean this shits ok. It just means they have to understand why their expectations are flawed. 1

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And that they have to work to intergrate with society. Mental issues aren't excuses. I have depression tendacies (not diagnosed). 2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Is my depression a valid excuse why my apartment is a mess and me eating to much and work problems when they come up? No3

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you can't handle integration with society your self go to therapy. They will help. The will work with you to help you.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

One piece of advice, make sure you request things in writing, your boss needs to give you black and white instructions. Bullies suck @ that.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That's a good advice but maybe shitty boss won't do it because she just wants to have employees in fear or doesn't give a fuck.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You are the one who should have applied for the manager position. Hate when your mangers are dumber than the employees.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I like my freedom waaay too much otherwise I might have...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well in the future make sure you get the schedule change in writing. I wish I had at my last job, but it pushed me to get a better job.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you are in NoVA area, I've got a job for you! Can't stand mgrs who bully staff!

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I was program mgr for group homes myself. Go to HR. Tell them you don't want any trouble with her you'd like to request a transfer.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Thing is I really enjoy this home but I'll transfer if I have to :(

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

You & my husband are in similar boats. 3rd shift in a group home, incompetent manager, lazy coworkers. He's trying to decide what to do now

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not gonna lie, there's a good chance your manager will retaliate

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Yup. Start looking for a new job now.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Probably. Not much she can do about it though. It would be a real shame if she had to cover my 16 hiur Xmas shift I agreed to take for her..

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

She can always fuck you afterwards. Mine did that after they forced me to cover a week after I just covered two shifts the week before

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Hour* Ugh dumb phone

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Join a union, get advice, document stuff & get things in writing from Karen when she tells you to do/not do something. Also, don't worry.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Also...Nice username.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't think my line of work has unions do they?? Huh...that would be amazing.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure they do in the UK, but I can't speak for anywhere else. It may be worth looking into, they will give you good advice.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sadly Im a filthy American :(

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Haha. Look into it anyway, there may be something, you never know!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you're In the UK you would join the union called Unison.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good job standing up for yourself, @OP. Karen, fuck yourself with the porch broom.

8 years ago | Likes 183 Dislikes 2

Big end first.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What if she's into that sort of thing?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Fray the shit out of it first for optimal snatch splintering.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Porch broom.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

LMAO!

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

Haha! Never heard that one! Stolen

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I need to hear how this worked out! And if you have memory issues, make sure to get everything in writing.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I really should go back to therapy for it...and my anxiety :/

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Youve done well. Be proud of yourself and be confident. As a human being, let alone a hard worker, you have the right to be treated with 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 0

2/2 respect. So you have done the right thing and should continue doing so. If she is not happy, well she is not one worth making happy.

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Did the right thing. Never sign a warning you don't agree with.

8 years ago | Likes 368 Dislikes 4

I agree.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Warnings at the place I work mention that the signature is NOT agreement with the statement, just acknowledge of being told.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Argue with your boss and make a lot of excuses. You're on the road to success.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Oh, putting it in writing is a great idea too. I bet the bullying behavior will stop right away.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

And see if I fucked up or I was slacking off, I would have accepted it in a second. I'll pay for any mistakes I make.

8 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 0

Have the smell work ethic, and anxieties. Mantra that has helped me not lose my mind...will this actually matter in a month/year? Prob not

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

A key piece in your favour is that 'Karen' didn't even deliver the warning herself. It's a coward's move.

8 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 0

Indeed not and that's exactly what I said.

8 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 0

Too many people are in managerial positions because of personal insecurities being masked by a superiority complex. If you stand up to them

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

and they don’t punch you in the face, you win!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've been the same way since middle school. At a certain point I realized some people will write you up for anything. Now I'm 24, and 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

if I did the thing, I'll gladly sign the write up. If I didn't? Fuck no, and I'm going to tell you in very precise details why.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Record every conversation with her and save all documents. Get a group of co-workers to back you up in claims.

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Depending on the state, you have to have the persons permission to record them. But she can say that it is to make sure she get every 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Detail correctly so there won’t be any mistakes. And then she’ll be able to use those recordings to back up her story

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

1/3 !got a new boss gave me impossible orders. when I told him it was physically impossible he threatened to write me up for insubordination

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/3 When I failed he chewed me out for being stupid. I told him he ordered me to do it. He denied it. After him doing this several times

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

3/3 I wrote Memos of his impossible orders and had him initial them. He stopped talking to me. By the way he was my bosses boss.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Approach her boss, and tell her that Karens behavior is affecting the workplace and the quality of everyones work negatively, present proof.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Only problem is that Jessica is very write up happy I found out. Wanted to write up Tina whos brand new for a tiny mistake she made due-

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

To some new paperwork not being filled out correctly.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Get some proof backing your side just in case, especially if you can get her to document something like saying you didn't have to do the-

8 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 0

chore. Worst case scenario, could help you slam her in a defense.

8 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 0

I made copies of the warning and my response just incase.

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

Well done. If it comes to a meeting, get a support person to come with you, someone who knows the story and can back your claims.

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

You're not both going to be working there for long. It's an obviously hostile relationship. Take it up the chain. One of you is leaving.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I hope for your sake that it's "Karen", but either way, you should prepare for a big change coming soon.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeeeaah... im gonna need an update on this. I need to know how asshat Karen is gonna respond.

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I will indeed update you all somehow!

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Me too pls

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dot me too

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Update

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

1/ Sounds like you need to go above her, and be sure to mention how long you worked under your previous manager with out issue.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

2/ I'm guessing you don't have an HR. But it also sounds like she had issues before so that should also work in your favor.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

3/ also if possible bring others that may be having issues with her as well. She is creating a hostile work environment.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

4/ Sit tight op, if the job is worth it. I've been there, and it was rough. But I'm still at my job while my old boss was sent packing.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I am gonna just upvote this. Its 4am and I'm waay too drunk to read all of that

8 years ago | Likes 838 Dislikes 7

Godspeed, my fellow imgurian.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's 2.45am, I'm sober and feel the same way. @OP it's not you, it's me...

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I was going to upvote you but you're at 666 and I'm not going to ruin that

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Im so sorry about that, my dude. Have a wonderful night of drunk and may you be spared a hangover in the morning :)

8 years ago | Likes 134 Dislikes 3

I want to know What happens next

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This isn't amateur hour. I know how to avoid a hangover. :P Good luck with your workplace problems

8 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 2

Lmao! Fair enough and thank you!

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Pls tell me, just woke up with the biggest one in months...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Drink good liquor. Drink as much water as you can before you go to bed. When you wake up to pee, drink water again. Water and aspirin in am.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

can confirm. had half a pill yesterday at a club and tons of drinks before. all good though, since it was proper stuff. it pays to pay more!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Did you avoid the hangover ? 11 am here and feeling rough as a blind cobblers thumb

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I did. Just made sure to eat something greasy and chug some water before bed.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's only been two hours. Guy is probably sleeping still.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

OR GIRL. lol I don't know why I felt compelled to write that I don't give a shit about that nonsense. Guy/gal ought to have informal privl.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

True that my dudeee

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0