KleptoKea
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Yet another country proving not to be seduced into embracing fascism by the Americans.
Sauce: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360693361/pro-eu-centrist-wins-romanias-tense-presidential-race-over-hard-right-nationalist
imgurble
Good
5ynic
I mean this is great but still they've kinda won if the options are centre & hard right
AxellTheDragon
I still can't believe he won. After learning how my conservative colleagues were thinking and were adamant on believing the conservative, anti-centrist propaganda and conspiracies on TikTok, Facebook, and WhatsApp, i was certain the right-winger would win. I never rooted for any politician before but last night when i saw the centrist had constantly over 51% of votes during counting i was genuinely happy.
getoffmycloud
it was a very close one
Bystandr
Trump has been the single biggest deterrant to electing right wing parties, globally, for SOME reason. LoL.
Sechran
Thank you for being the light we cannot.
RHodeidra
"seduced into embracing fascism by the Americans." what a time to be alive where this sentence is somewhat true
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
Kinda been true for a long time considering all the democracies we've toppled over the years.
thoushaltnotpass
They were way too close to my liking
DrKonrad
As a European I am relieved. I also hope other Europeans will always remember that fascism and right extremism must be fought constantly, at every election
KleptoKea
Good news, looks like Poland is also going to give the far right the middle finger. Here's hoping.
Sebastopol
Fingers crossed, we need to win this!
Sebastopol
I am with you!
graifazig
I'm glad that the voting majority of my home country didn't go totally crazy, but this was still a close call. If you consider that these hard-right candidates almost popped out of thin air (they were there, but used to be pretty much minor factors), this remains to be a serious situation.
AxellTheDragon
For real, the battle isn't over yet. The right-wingers and russian botnets on TikTok, Facebook, and WhatsApp have enough time in the next 5 years to feed more anti-west and conservative propaganda and conspiracies to the gullible, especially since most people don't seem to actively monitor the political situation but then they hop on social media and instantly believe conservative bullshit and manipulation without question.
Elkarlo1977
You Forgot X, which is more dangerous. The Facebook, Tiktok warriors may lose their support when Russia goes into bancruptcy. X won't for a while until Tesla crashes.
Iwantcutedogs
We do not have X here, atleast not to the extent you guys use it. Very few people got into it, Insta,Facebook, Tiktok are the trendy apps that people use here. Also our right wing nutjob actively licked Trump boots going so far as thanking him that we got removed from the Visa waiver program, he also played Trumps playbook going as far as accepting the presidency when the partial results were in. The other candidate got 800k more out of 18 mill (11 mill attended) total voters. Wasnt that close
4t0m1c4
Weird how the BBC had the right winger in the lead in headlines.. I'm wondering at the state of our "unbiased" media right now
RoutemasterFlash
Polling is not an exact science and this does not indicate "bias." Most polls were indicating that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016, remember.
LordAndSaviourBirdJesus
Not to defend the BBC, but the right winger was in the lead after the first voting session 2 weeks ago, with about 40%. Fuck him though
4t0m1c4
Defending the BBC is propably the right thing to do imo.. but to that end, criticism is required. Also, fuck him tho.
RoutemasterFlash
The BBC will obviously just have reported whatever Romanian polling orgs were saying.
lightfoot2
Good. I'm glad the US is finally uniting the world. Against us but that's fine.
DukeofKMS
As a German, I consider that an achievement. We did it twice.
lightfoot2
There is, as they say, that.
DukeDarkwood
We learned it from watching you. Of course, you learned it from watching us. And the Ottomans, I believe.
And, of course, the "learning" goes farther and farther back. It's been said that it was always burning, since the world's been turning.
PilgrimScott
Or ruzzians, for that matter
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Same diff.
sleepinggreenidea
No, the current Russian regime is clever, calculating, and efficient in carrying out their nefarious schemes.
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
You got me there.
Trump is more like the court jester drawing eyes with insanity.
The nefarious schemes are in their somewhere though.
JayDeeDubs
The US is still very important...as a cautionary example.
OmnipotentBeing
It's not over yet. We are still a dysfunctional democratic republic. I see no signs that Trump will be able to stay in office past 2028.
ElroydIsGone
This is one reason why the popularity of the far right in other countries is currently taking a real hit: Trump and buddies are so high on their power, that they love to shit on other nations with glee, which enrages those people the most for whom their nation's pride is most important, which are ... the far right.
Now all Trump wannabes have to explain to their followers, why it is so great, that their idol shits on them and all they cherish.
KleptoKea
The Germans in the 1930's were the cautionary example. The Americans evidently suffer from a learning disability.
RocMage
As an American, I must agree with you.
nalmeth
Less than one third.
KleptoKea
Only a third voted against their Orange Hitler. So we're talking about a problematic two thirds of the American voters
SquirrelWithATophat
Don't get complacent. Italians didn't want to think they were vulnerable to fascists and far-right extremist like Trump. Then Trump's first presidency resulted in far-right extremists rising up all over the world, and they managed to seize power in Italy for a few years.
Evil isn't something that you defeat once and never have to worry about again. It is something that every man, woman and child must remain CONSTANTLY vigilant against or it WILL pop up the moment everyone drops their guard.
pip1
Italy has been fascist-adjacent since it was full blown fascist, and a political mess to booth. Look at the sheer number of sitting governments it's had since the 40s, it's close to 1/year
Higure
Democracy isn't a state of being, it is a chore.
Darkwell
And chores suck, but you've gotta do 'em or your house turns into a shithole.
Trelis
His first win helped other right wing parties in other countries, now his second term is making them lose.
dingosmush
May that prove true.
Trelis
Right wing elections lost this year:
German, Canada, Poland (only first round so far though), Portugal, Albania, Australia.
dingosmush
I'm extremely glad for that! I wasn't trying to be rude, it's just that I'm an American. The fact that a plurality of my country reelected the GOP has made me extremely cautious. The rights prevalence worldwode is pretty alarming.
Dolenmorgul
Italy has had like 68 different governments in 76 years so they bound to change up again soon
pip1
Considering how many comebacks Berlusconi had I dont find that comforting
Dolenmorgul
He's dead ain't he?
pip1
Yes, and his political career should have died decades earlier, but despite being sentenced to 7 years imprisonment and barred from ever holding public office HE STILL FUCKING GOT ELECTED TO BOTH THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND LATER ITALIAN SENATE WTF
Dolenmorgul
And the Americans thought they were innovators voting for a crook, pssst