Recipe for Coca-Cola

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LabCoatz on YouTube spent the last year working with Neptunium and MassSpecEverything to break down the recipe of Coca-Cola (spoiler: the secret ingredient was tannins, as in tea and red wine.)

Sauce here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDkH3EbWTYc

The man is not suicidal and is happy with no major health issues.

Age mixture A for at least 24h. The original (cocaine) recipe includes ageing, as do many chemical mixtures.

Start mixture B with 200ml hot water and add while heating. Do not boil. The caramel color should NOT be the type that is a mixture of red and green dyes, but actual "caramel color" on the ingredients. Mix each ingredient thorougly and when done (320ml of caramel color is not an insignificant amount), make 1L of mixture B by adding water.

The phosphoric acid breaks down some of the aromatics and cane sugar, and produces sucrose and glucose. If the acid is omitted, it will taste different and also less sweet.

Make the sugar syrup, add mixture A to taste (>1ml) and 10ml of mixture B.

Microwave (or otherwise heat) until nearly boiling. Cover to prevent the volatiles from escaping. Great use-case for a double-boiler.

Seltzer or soda stream'd water will do. Just don't use alkaline water, because it will react with the remaining phosphoric acid.

Rest it again.

Above and GC–MS by: https://www.youtube.com/@Neptunium
Neptunium analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V45lSJJ-d-M

Recipe by: https://www.youtube.com/@LabCoatz_Science

GC–MS and advice: https://www.youtube.com/@MassSpecEverything

Sebastopol

"Wine tannins" are a pretty divers class, there are at least 3 main groups, each with several variations. They also come in pure or mixed form. Anyone using the recipe and not hitting home on first try, change the type of tannin used. The difference can be huge.

2 months ago |

BlindTreeFrog

I'm assuming the tannins are just to fake whatever tannins would be picked up from the cocoa leaves (and maybe kola nut). Varying which tannins you use probably is a good start to making clones of any cola you want.

BlindGardener

Instructions miss-understood, used a glass of high tannin wine

Perfect outcome! Why drink coke if you can have wine after all? :)

NChomsky

I mean soft drinks are fucking health nightmares so people shouldn't be drinking them anyway, but since THEY'RE GOING TO, it makes sense to take a meaty shit on coca-cola's support for Palestinian genocide and make your own or buy from someone who does it in bulk. Support your local business heh heh heh... I think since coca cola hasn't patented their formula, THIS FORMULA SHOULD BE patented, so if if coke's is similar enough and they try to patent it for the first time, they'll be ass-fucked.

There is no reason to patent recipes and that's not really a thing one would do. It's protected under trade secret laws though, and really, no one wants the recipe since there are enough other colas out there Pepsi, Royal Crown, and everyone else could make a drink that tasted similar enough if they wanted, but why?

Coca Cola isn't going to go after this guy just because he figured out a clone of their soda.

Well, your opinion is noted. I think if his formula became popular enough, these private tyrannies are capable of doing a n y t h i n g. At any rate, I'm an IP abolitionist anyway (all IP, copyright, trade secrets, and the rest should be completely abolished yesterday). I suppose it was a joke anyway since IP/etc. isn't really for the rabble, it's a despicable, grotesque system that works almost exclusively for those who already have wealth & power.

You can't hand wave things away as opinions because you don't know how the system works

The US Patent System was set up to give the rabble the ability to file patents and enjoy the benefits. Even today, the patent office is set up to make patents accessible to the common person with fewer fees than corporations need to pay.

If CocaCola were to patent the recipe, then we would all know what it was since part of the cost of getting a patent is publishing what the patent protects.

And Trade Secrets exist because people don't need to tell other people how they did the thing. Trade Secret Protections are basically just saying to the courts "We did all reasonable things to keep this a secret. That person/company did something incredibly inappropriate if not illegal to bypass our protections and they should not be allowed to profit from that". Take away legal protections and Trade Secrets are still a thing. Plus, to a degree at least, companies will still honor them

Your faith in the system is naive at best. The term "IP", in reality (not the fantasy we've been pedaled), is effectively a state-enforced monopoly that stifles innovation rather than encouraging it. The very idea that the patent system aids the rabble (that's us) is 𝘀𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗹𝘆 𝗵𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗳𝗶𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻. What it DOES do is aggressively stack the economy for the wealthy, actually PREVENTING the common person from competing against entrenched power. These laws basically arm corporations to crush progress. >>

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