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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-vaccine-first.html
Basically, 'fuck teachers and fuck your grandma, she lived enough'...
Risks compared by race: https://i.imgur.com/JzcdnM6.png
Risks compared by age: https://i.imgur.com/s3X3fHS.png
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/assessing-risk-factors.html
Mohareb
Essential workers because they're fucking essential and don't get paid for it. The old can stay home for a bit longer
Xecryo
Essential workers because they are the ones that interact with the most people (elderly included) and it would help more to have that>
Xecryo
rigello
I can see logic in this. Not in 'Fuck them cause they're white.'
Xecryo
Sad part is there is a reason the surviving elderly population is disproportionately white.
rigello
And, um... we need to 'level the field'?
fadingtheory
Couldn't be bothered to read the whole article, or just reaction baiting by circling out of context lines you know will get people mad?
YouWillNeverFindMe
Would you say the same if it read "are mostly black"?
fadingtheory
Does playing What-Ifs instead of paying attention to context and stats make you feel better?
rigello
So blatant racism is 'out of context lines' now?
fadingtheory
It is if you ignore the context of the question - Should we immunize people who are most likely to get infected (Essential Workers) or...
rigello
I'm not denying various possible strategies. I don't get what race got to do with it.
fadingtheory
That's because you're not reading. "It’s a question increasingly guided by concerns over the inequities laid bare by the pandemic, ...
fadingtheory
from disproportionately high rates of infection and death among poor people and people of color..." You wanna bitch, you gotta pay attention
fadingtheory
groups that have the worst outcome from infection (Minorities and the elderly). The Doctor is pointing out there's not a huge overlap there.
fadingtheory
Or more accurately, that there's not a huge overlap in sub groups, I should say.
rigello
Being old (over 70) means IMMENSELY higher risk of severe/fatal illness than being Black/Latino. No comparison here.
fadingtheory
That would be why the paper mentions both, and why the article starts by saying the 'worst' of the elderly will be getting the vaccine first
rawdog
Whoever sees the most people should get it first...they are the most likely conduit of transmission, then vulnerable...
rigello
Or people most at risk of dying, along with people with most contacts. Both strategies are debatable, it's racial preference I don't get.
rigello
After all, high contact ppl are more likely to have an immunity.
rigello
Also, article says that term 'essential' became diluted, up to 70% of US workforce fall under this category.
rawdog
I say we give everyone like 10% of the dose cause then we will have 10x as much to give! Thank you for attending my TED talk.
rigello
BTW similar thing happened with Oxford/AZ vaccine. ½ dose proved to be more effective
rawdog
Ya, immunology studies are notoriously rigid...We will figure it out eventually!