DogGuyInCatWorld
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Jefferson was a racist and did a lot of horrible things, but he also did a lot of great things.
Jun 27, 2022 9:04 PM
DogGuyInCatWorld
118235
1871
75
Jefferson was a racist and did a lot of horrible things, but he also did a lot of great things.
immortalbucket
Bert muh freedumbs!
troublex289350
Protest for body autonomy and vote for women's equal rights!
tomgordon55
I bet he would kick the ever lovin SHIT out of all of these morons
qroniq14
Yeah but the magtards will cherry pick the founding fathers words just like they do the Bible, their districts and everything thing else!
FatBastardVegetarian
How about a separation of Church and Hate?
seenunseen
Words don't matter anymore. One side is playing a game that's over and the other has almost fully corrupted the system
atomicmecha
Did he tho? They might be horrible compared to today's morals, but at the time I bet he was doing what was considered normal.
levamark
it isn't in the amendments either
levamark
in a letter to a pastor at Danbury Church assuring the US wouldn't establish religion. No where in Constitution. the state could establish
omnipotentpasta
TLDR: Those Christian’s are up to something, keep an eye on them
OddScratch
That's founder-speak for "Fuck your God."
immortalbucket
That’s founder speak for fuck your republicanazis.
SlothsRmyspeed
As a Christian. Amen brother. What I've see happening over the last 30 years is NOT the Christianity I follow.
londonosierra2000
Religion and civilization don't mix
shanasphone350
Please have your religion, embrace and follow. Religion should not be mixed with government or law.
IvanKirigin2
The case involved a school actively shutting down a voluntary activity after organized events ended. Read up yo
Shiznit007
Of course but everything took a turn for the worst when Trump took over. All the crazies came out of the woodwork
onlyheretoargue
Anyone who has read the bible understands how important this is.
ArcaneConjecture
Actually, Jefferson is the OG Democrat. Democrats still call some of their fundraisers "Jefferson-Jackson Dinners".
trippingthelightfantastic
ButtBot9900
When have evangelicals and rightoid propagandists ever let facts stop them?
theangryjanitor
It'll never reach the RIGHT audience
TransAtheistMinister
Fundamentalist Repubs don't care what the founding fathers said if it hurts their narrative. Guns? "Fuck yes!" Religious freedom? "Fuck no!"
Imadethisaccounttopost
We need to codify this into law
Imadethisaccounttopost
We need to erect and fortify that wall.
MrsSlavicHorse
Quoting the late great Christopher Hitchens, “Mr. Jefferson, build up that wall!”
grandestgrandeur
Clarence and the rest: We need to heed the founding fathers... as long as they're the ones that agree with us.
netutoring
That's why it's important to teach the flaws, too. A lot of historical figures get wrecked because people were never told about the flaws.
Animorphs
Thanks. I may reactivate my Facebook and post this as a fuck you to all the dumbasses I used to associate with on there.
sbendel44
Bring another round of Crusades Christians, we're ready for your stupid ass
ILoveSpicyPeople
I fucking hate this country.
saintbrun
I don’t hate this country. I hate what it’s become.
Redyls
so what i hear is that your for building a wall! (jk troll)
jamsplodge
Religion is a scourge on the planet. Needs to go the way of the dodo.
ministerm
5 billion+ religious people on the planet, if not more. It's not going away anytime soon.
mm1434
Power-hungry people are the scourge, religion just another tool of their oppression
BennyGaga
I can prove the Dodo existed.
whiteryno77
Jesus hated religious people too. What you have been duped to believe is that following Jesus = religion
curolina
I think its more doctrined organized religion imo
PropheticShadeZ
It will forever annoy me that the pharasies that are explicitly condemned in the bible siezed the religion of the guy trying to stop them
PropheticShadeZ
And im atheist, why arent Christians angrier
Ekibwurm
bring the dodo back, toss religion in its stead!
redexodus
I can get behind that. But lets be honest we just want them to fuck off and do their own thing somewhere and not bother us.
Ekibwurm
the problem is 'their own thing' includes mass recruitment/brainwashing and controling those not part of their religious beleifs...
redexodus
I would contend thats not "their own thing" as it fucks with all of us. I was more referring to like meditation or communion.
cosinewave
So important it was written in the first amendment.
dixxienormus
If it was truely important, it would have been in the main body of the document, not an afterthought.
FaithAlone
Technically it says congress can’t make any law setting up a state religion… so the courts could.
ImpliedConsent
The courts cannot create law, they interpret. I do realize recent cases show how blurry that can be, however.
FaithAlone
They wouldn’t create law, just sanction when the executive branch enforces policies that are inspired by a specific faith.
gobords
Where is "separation of church and state" in the first amendment? i thought it was in a letter he wrote..
Lovingimpaler
In the establishment clause, congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or inhibiting the free exercise thereof.
gobords
First, the words "separation of Church and State" dont appear in the first amendment, the phrase was used elsewhere. Second, the intent was
gobords
to prohibit government from restricting religious freedom (all faiths/denominations). Finally, people guided by their faith can still govern
gobords
and if that leads to legislation inspired by their faith then they can sign it into law so long as it's voted on and it does not infringe on
sinnersaint575772
Fun fact I just checked and it's not. Not even with a 'spin'
alotofpot
Maybe learn how to read?
notacobra
What kind of weird troll is this? Anyone, literally anyone can spend 1 second reading and prove you wrong.
sinnersaint575772
Like I said I did read it just a moment ago and the words 'church and state must remain separate' are not in there.
Deekermanns
Did your eyes glaze over the no law respecting a religion part? No religious based legislation, for obvious reasons.
Malloon
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" Reading is hard.
sinnersaint575772
What that doesn't say is separation of Church and state. It doesn't say that government and God have to be apart, not even a little
Malloon
You might benefit from a constitutional law class. I am not qualified to teach that.
alotofpot
Totally says no church mixed with state.
sinnersaint575772
But you're really missing is why that's in there, it's meant so the church doesn't run the country, not that the country should be godless.
alotofpot
Should be godless
ImpliedConsent
Stop trying to impose your fake god on others. Don’t grasp at straws to try to make a secular document justify you being a religious zealot.