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Article: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/us/megachurch-pastor-mental-health-suicide/index.html. Start with a phone call: https://imgur.com/gallery/Osoxl.
Sep 11, 2019 5:30 AM
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Article: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/us/megachurch-pastor-mental-health-suicide/index.html. Start with a phone call: https://imgur.com/gallery/Osoxl.
krillin123499
He was always asking how r u today. No was asking him how he was
Syko73
We've all got our demons.
JupitersWitch
Maybe he helped others because he was suffering.
OutoftheDarknessIntotheLight
I know Greg Laurie, he's one of the few good ones in mega churches. If he said this guy was good, he was. Such a loss. Poor guy.
andywei420
Seems like he was good at absorbing negativity from others but even he has reached his limit
whattheflyingnutsack
Rule of thumb: If it looks and acts like a human, depression is possible.
DMVanDarkholme
Winndypops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZfSEcO64Z0 Been looking through some of his stuff, hopefully his messages will continue to help people.
rambosmurf
Of course I dont know about this case. But some people become obsessed by the evil they battle, even if it's a battle they fight for others
heatherflowpow
If you're seeing this and struggling with literally anything, you are 100% invited to pm me
WolkoW
I could never do that. Been thinking about it, but my cats would miss me too much.
ovelanimimerkki
Yeah, I mean who would feed them or let them out so they can come back inside if not you?
betterave
And lots of people too. I hope your pain subsides soon.
Danzofriend
I hear Megachurch I think of the awful Pro$perity go$pel, but has anyone here been following this guy? Did he legit try for mental health?
Winndypops
I've been watching a few of his sermons today, he seems like a pretty cool dude.
A10struck
yes
mucotevoli
I've thought about it, no more bills, no more tired, no more anything sounds like Bliss. But, my Mom's face keeps me from doing the worst
glitterwank
How many people are already suicidal looking at this and going "well he's an advocate if he can't do it what chance do I have"
cptcr
Gotta wonder what dirt this guy had on the Clintons
jaybirdscott22
I'm riding this life until the fucking wheels fall off.
Smozzerz
Damn, these comments are brutal. We didn't know his life, why are people dragging him through the dirt?
Winndypops
They hear Mega Church and get the wrong idea, relate this dude to some of the money hording boys which he really was not.
fearandloathinginaz
He's with Jesus now
algoth00r
Having lost a very close person to suicide; id like to say that youre not alone. Seek help, talk to someone
Moosupian
Mental implosive vortex are contagious. If to try to help and suddenly understand that person you've been infected.
JudgeNotByTheColorOfOnesSkinButByTheContentsOfOnesDumps
this needs more upvotes
DogenutsDoughnuts
A good anchor for me is knowing that my departure would inflict a lot of sadness on loved ones. I don't understand why, but it's enough
Winndypops
It is not enough for many, some even find the thought of it adds even more guilt than they feel already.
googoogaagaa83
You are so right to think that, it also helps me! Chin up, buddy!
HesagooddogBront
I was worried what this post was going to be about (religion bashing) but thank you for focusing on helping other people, not bringing them
noptic
If the headline had been "Megachurch pastor lost all money / imprisoned / etc" I would not hold back but this is just too tragic.
HesagooddogBront
Down
rambosmurf
In the U.S. the Gov't is considering creating a "911" like phone number to connect folks with the Suicide Prevention Hotline
TesTickles
The company I work for is creating a unit that will call that number. Its for Veterans now. They have a insanely high suicide rate.
rambosmurf
Thats Outstanding, my oldest son and I are both veterans. He is an Afghanistan war vet with PTSD & 4 daughters. On their behalf I thank you!
TesTickles
Are you both being taken care of by your VA? I hear so many horror stories with the Veterans I work with.
rambosmurf
Fortunately I am not a Veteran that needs assistance. My son is indeed receiving the care he needs. Thank You for your concern however!!
A10struck
why the fuck does this have a negative score?
rambosmurf
Because some folks are so "sold out" to the anti-U.S. supposed 'woke' agenda they are BLIND to good things. But I thank You!
AssistantToTheRegionalManagerDwightSchrute
Iirc they passed it now and they’re assigning a number like 711 or something similar!
rambosmurf
Good news indeed - tks!!
lwAppDog
There is a suicide peak in men in UK. I hope if someone reaches out for help.... We are wise enough to recognise who needs it.
A10struck
i remember when that lady mp shot down debate on the issue because the people had not voted in 50% women to parliament
Theme777
Yes, but remember. Someone made a bad rape joke about it, so now she’s the poor victim in that event.
A10struck
I actually took the wording to a UK lawyer I know out of morbid curiosity, turns out it was crafted to be a statement of non action, even
A10struck
Under the harsh lack of free expression the uk is now famous for. (hell, Japan has more free expression, and I never thought I would be
A10struck
Saying that)
GBMaker
Obligatory: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ 1-800-273-8255
MrBEC
Why die when You can live to deify?
ddriscoll3
Truly, a nice and appreciated gesture...but the couple times I still could reach out...the people I spoke with are scripted...don’t wish 1/2
ddriscoll3
to be bothered...I mean Jesus, what is left when your treated like a joke, and rejected by the folks at the suicide hotline?
GBMaker
Remember the old Rodney Dangerfield joke: "I called the suicide hotline... they put me on hold!"
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Jesus, people. Megachurches are just large churches. The thing you're trying to criticize is prosperity gospel preachers, which he is not.
Gacva
I guess there can be good people working at bad places.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Also for those joking/wondering about hell; depression/SI is already enough of a living hell for us Christians not to care.
Justtoberight
Megachurches are NOT just large churches. Their sermons have nothing to do with contemplation, but are shouty, popconcert-y events. Also:
theresgarlicinthatnebula
So no megachurch has asked you to contemplate something? All megachurches are "shouty" (whatever that means)
magnuPlanetLifter
They are not all like that!
Justtoberight
They are well known for their relentless begging (demanding) for cash from their followers
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Otherwise known as an "offering", something that all churches do, but sure...
Justtoberight
I mean you can celebrate your believes however you want. I don't care. But calling them "just big churches" is a bit naive
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Again, you are talking about prosperity gospel churches, which are often also megachurches, hence the confusion. The above church is not.
YouUselessTwat
Kinda depends on the church, don't you think?
Deathwing777
Wrong, the definition is literally "a large church."
Justtoberight
http://hirr.hartsem.edu/megachurch/definition.html
Justtoberight
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/27/us/what-is-a-megachurch-explainer/index.html
SaltLickBrain
On world suicide prevention day nonetheless
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hockeyham
Did he know the Clintons?
DrSchmolls
*no less*
SaltLickBrain
I was thinking about this all day! Thank you
wholesomeSociopath
He failed to prevent at least one suicide that day
michaelmancini
Yaaaa... Explain to your mother how a depressed man failed to stop more suicides by killing him self. That's fucking twisted and not funny
Baeloro
Go out with a bang.
mrcheese1
Not gonna lie....been struggling for months, years, and I I thought yesterday was the day I would do it. SPD stopped me, now its 9/11...
fozzibab
Guess this guy couldn't practice what he preached. I'll see myself out.
TeronMoonshaft
That just goes to show you how long he was planning it.
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
He should've went with Satanism.
zanzaboonda
Maybe it was his final message.
Dragondraikk
ImNotTaylorSwift
Was his final message "don't kill yourself. PS do as I say not as I do"?
papalongshlong
Maybe it was a message saying we really don’t do enough as a society for those who are struggling with these kinds of issues :/
Baalzak
That would be on-brand for most religious leaders.
IcyFlash2
LordCarna
Damn the wife already has a gofundme up and has raised 34k. "Funds will be used on anyway the Wilson family deems appropriate". Kaching!
ithoughtitwasaboogerbutitsnot
Do you have the link?
wastedpoptart
I can’t find his net worth anywhere but I can tell you he was not a senior pastor so I doubt he made much money at this church.
destinoz
Did the deceased own this mega church? Articles make it seem like he just worked there.
ibroughtpopcorn
He worked there, and the wife was a SAHM.
turalyawn
Like funeral costs? I dunno 34k doesn't seem like all that big a score
Deathwing777
It's not. But a lot of people on here are the "bloggers type" who still live with their parents and don't understand the value of a dollar.
Vysard
They need another jet, like all the other big-time preachers.
magnuPlanetLifter
Wow not the time.
Smozzerz
I'm sure she would have rather have had her husband
Dehaka
TBH, if I die I would totally want my spouse to go on a long vacation. Deaths in the family are super stressful.
letsbodlygomotherfuckers
And another 29k from a "tribute" gofundme fundraiser.
macgerdo
emotions are the best way to get money from other people. hope they spend it for good or else suffer in hell.
Deathwing777
The family are most likely just trying to make ends meet and figure out what to do financially going forward.
Deathwing777
Wow these comments are terrible
DoopaLoooooop
So is that church.
Deathwing777
How so?
Winndypops
Please watch some of his sermons dude, everyone here is getting wrong idea.
KillingTlme
Show me the churches financial records and tax filings so I can get the right idea.
Winndypops
I am afraid it is on you to prove their wrong doings. I can only say that the sermons I have watched are good. God Bless.
CapttainKillJoy
I’ve wanted to off myself plenty of times. But I’ve realized that along with the bad things stopping, suicide also makes the good stop. 1/2
ChrisThrasher
A permanent solution to a temporary problem.
photog
My n64 collection is too big for me to just kill myself now.
feryooday
I attempted 9/1/18. still here. still hate it but... I think my cat Sasha gave me her last life when she died christmas in my arms
ihateimgurffs
When there is no good or bad, just numbness, that is the problem.
kah929
This right here. No amount of venlafaxine or klonopin has helped me so far. Even the daily emotional breakdowns have stopped.
HotFruitcake
Right there
jsenne
I havent felt anything in months. While i dont 'want' to kill myself myself im pretty sure i wouldnt care if i knew i was going to die soon.
minipancho94
eh. for me i actually found out i was surprisingly happier when nearly homeless. still have no self preservation instinct, but should 1/2
minipancho94
everything fall apart, i can still sit around and watch the world burn, while i play hermit in the woods somewhere. 2/2
ddriscoll3
That’s assuming that you’re lucky enough to have “good things”. Alone. Physical non stop pain etc. No one gives a rats patoot.
CapttainKillJoy
I’m in that position. My wife left me in 2018. I was born with spinal stenosis but didn’t get diagnosed until I was 40. Today marks 1 year
CapttainKillJoy
since my surgery. I wouldn’t say I was suicidal but the idea of death wasn’t unpleasant compared to the nonstop pain. It hasn’t been easy
CapttainKillJoy
Surgery has its own list of pain and complications. But I do have more hope now than I have in the last 5 years. I’m even working part time.
jsenne
Mhm, im not in the same boat physically but i have felt anything emotionally in months. While i don't really 'want' to die i dont think 1/
jsenne
Id mind much. It feels weird since it wasnt too long ago i had severe anxiety. Now everythings numb and its not really better.
ddriscoll3
I am sorry that anyone else has to feel this. They say nothing is hopeless...but they are “dead” wrong. (See what I did there?). I do
ddriscoll3
cry for your pain. Everyone says...reach out. I called the suicide hotline only to be scolded. They coldly told me, there not here to
Geek13
Never really wanted to off myself, but the thought has crossed my mind several times that the wife and kids would be better off financially.
CapttainKillJoy
For a while they would but no amount of money can replace a dad. The support of you just being around is worth more than gold. Unless you’re
CapttainKillJoy
an abusive dick then go get help and get better. But I don’t think an abusive dick would consider ways to better his family’s lives.
Geek13
Well, I'm certainly not abusive. And I have no desire to off myself, but it's weird how the brain works. Thank you, by the way, CapttainKJ
CapttainKillJoy
2/2 And all the bad stuff just gets transferred to your loved ones. You don’t want them living with the stuff and you couldn’t kill.
Kllrc7
Wow. Never thought of it like that. I knew the bad transfers but that is some seriously deep positive vibes bud
InspiredUser
here's one for you. Making it to 80 or 8. it's a blink away, so why not persevere and make it to the end. death comes for us all unexpectedl
Welley
My reason is because there's nothing else than existence. It's not about experiencing good things. It's just to experience things.
SonderingStrike
I dont want to upset my mum.
IHaveTwoCuteDoggies
yeah but what if youve experienced a lot of good things & just really dont think its tipping the scales anymore.this will happen to everyone
Beepbopbadop
I have one happy memory that I rely on to keep me going forward. It doesn't work due to recent events but I know it'll pass.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
This doesn’t help me much. My dog keeps me going. He’s hyper attached to me and also has problems that no one else I know can handle as 1/
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
well as I can... reactivity issues and such. Mishandling him or not being sensitive to his behavior could get him out down. 2/2
CapttainKillJoy
But that love for your dog is the good. Your death would transfer the bad to your dog. You definitely don’t want to do that to the pupper.
Fu3G0
Get another dog or do something like saving dogs or dog related. Don't ignore the significance that it brings into your life
Dragongirl7256
Just remember, if you were gone he would never stop looking for you. That's what keeps me going some days.. my animals need and love me
CheeseB0t
Why do people bleat on about hopeful thinking and moralistic rationale for not killing yourself? do you not realise none of it matters with>
CheeseB0t
severe depression? I mean it literally doesn't do a single thing to help someone in that position. Just goes to show how little is >
CheeseB0t
really understood about depression, even by some of those who experience it. As someone who does, please, stop.It doesn't help, it makes >
CheeseB0t
it worse. at least in my experience.
circegirl
Yes it's important to consider depression can distort thinking so much they genuinely think their suicide is best for their loved ones
CheeseB0t
It's also important to remember that often a person with serious mental health issues is a burden on their family. Also with depression, >
CheeseB0t
there is no solution. There's short term fixes, but depression is for life. Sometimes it becomes unbearable living with knowing that and >
davebeastly
Fortunately, your username doesn't check out.
CapttainKillJoy
Actually I just jumped off a skyscraper and I’m posting this as I fa
DinaRaven
I hope he never posts ever again, cause this would be a great exit.
FuckYouImSokka
ComoSeIguana
Well did you do a flip?
CapttainKillJoy
No, I’m dead now.