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May 18, 2022 11:51 PM
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jesusisherelookbusy
The Warsaw Pact was temporary. NATO is eternal!
ExTechOp
"my response [to Russia] would be that you caused this, look at the mirror," Finnish president Niinistö said. https://yle.fi/news/3-12441348
Jaeger6Ix
Seattle Mariners don't like Ruskies
johndizx24
Ruzzia. Nazi
mandy009
this is the only way to say this. perfect.
ExpendableTestPilot
7 years nato did nothing to stop, only encouraging ukraine to continue conflict on donbass.
MisterDonutVampire
vladimir putin?
RoutemasterFlash
I love her enunciation.
LincLoud
gobby
Why didn't Nato dissolve when the Warsaw Pact did so ? Because it's more than a alliance of defense, it's a vector of western imperialism.
always1haveparis
No, defence is always important and does not depend on a specified "enemy".
smashsouls
How do we counteract the hatred from the outside being turned against the Russian people and alienating them from the world? The citizens.
Callistan
That's a hard one. But just recognizing that the Russian people are not the Russian government (even though polls suggest the majority do
Callistan
support the invasion, likely due to a lack of independent news sources) and keeping that in mind when evaluating which strategies to support
Callistan
and reminding others to do the same is likely the most beneficial thing you can reasonably do.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
The people still bear some responsibility for their country. And the separation is not as absolute as you think.
smashsouls
If I were the Russian state, I’d use the external hate as fuel for propaganda, by making it seem as if everyone hates THEE, comrade.
smashsouls
And so from inside Russia, they’ll only get to see how “the whole world is trying to kill us” and in response tag everyone as your enemy.
AmazinglyCoolNameHere
They already do that, they're already xenophobic, and they're already genociding their neighbors. Being nice to them is pointless.
Mavgurian
His lapdog in Turkey just has to be convinced that he is playing for the wrong team ...
VenomSnek
If it wasn't before, it's freaking obvious now what team he really is on.
LoquaciousDude
Their own team, Mavgurian is so very wrong about Turkey being pro russian, they've had a big beef with russia for a long time
LoquaciousDude
Not that what Turkey is doing is fine, but it is by no means a favour to Putin/Russia, it's self-interest.
mandy009
TR would never settle for being a lapdog. given traditional rivalry, RU & TR are both still too nationalistic & chauvinistic to cooperate.
mandy009
most they could do would b like a Molotov-Ribbentrop to carve up that would fall apart. No common enemy either that would unite.
OdeToBouncer
Turkey won't block. They'll get some concession on calling the PUK something closer to terrorists, and they'll okay it.
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PerpetualExhaustion
I heard that the Russia Duma proposed a bill to bring back the Soviet flag. Not sure how accurate it is, but it would track.
Asteroidrules
Russia has not abandoned its imperialist past, and it will not as long as Putin's regime remains in power.
ligmabolz
Ain't gonna happen. Most of them regret being part of it, to begin with
pritolus
Not the Soviet Union, but the pre WWI Russian Empire
SuperDramaticFusion
Well, he’s doing a bang-up job! /s
DukeDarkwood
Ohhhh, but what he wants is not the Soviet Union, but an empire under a single ruler. He wants to be tsar.
LoquaciousDude
Basically the USSR
Ekibwurm
he wants to be... 'tsa tsa tsarputin' (sorry.... had to)
DrSleepyPhZzz
Later: *screams helplessly in lava*
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
*screams helplessly in Lada
JustAPileOfCats
Still blaming NATO.
winecheeseandafulllibrary
not sure that would bode well for us all if they stayed on these tracks afterwards
Sauroctonus
Oh, are the Siberian Traps coming back?
DrSleepyPhZzz
Metaphorical lava (real screaming)
LordLoke
Yeah, as a Swede i never thought id support a Nato membership. Putler forced us when he said we was not allowed to join.
LincLoud
I alla fall, utmarkt. (Sorry, I am American and learning Swedish so my phone doesn't have the umlaut for a or o)
MAYTechnique
Stränge, mine döes. Might just be your particular phone. Make's talking about Mötley Crüe much fancier.
Sauroctonus
Does nothing happen if you tap and hold on a letter?
TheSauceGuy
Keep it up
LincLoud
Tack
TheSauceGuy
Det var så lite
LincLoud
Som du säger. Jah uppskrattar det.
FakeFlagger
As a Swede? A lot of us have been for Nato since forever. Besides, we were hardly neutral to begin with.
EnokMolkeHansson
yes as a swede. a lot of us are, or were, against. it is complicated, but resent events changed stuff and that's why many swedes reconsider.
FakeFlagger
Nato has always been a good idea. Sweden has known that, hence why we've been working side by side since forever. Just peacedamaged people-
FakeFlagger
with no grip on the real world who are so naive to think that wars between nations is a thing of the past think Nato is a bad idea.
VenomSnek
This, it was only the left parties that didn't want to join. The liberal and right parties was for joining. Good we didn't leave Finland 1/2
VenomSnek
behind. It differs more in the population but February 24th made a lot of us revalue a possible NATO membership. I was for joining. 2/2
ShittyBiologyTeacher
We have, however, been alliance-free as well as very against nuclear weapons which NATO houses.
Radix865
Well, you haven't always been as against nuclear weapons as you might think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_nuclear_weapons_program
teaandtoastbaby
As a dane I’m still not sure about an alliance with “Sweden” if that is even your real name!
FakeFlagger
You should feel reassured that you are on the right path. You are now officially on the same side as Sweden, and Sweden is always on the-
FakeFlagger
right side of history! We are the good guys after all. ?
teaandtoastbaby
Grrrr! Give back Skåne and I’ll allow it!