Feb 7, 2023 5:54 PM
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#meme#kermit_the_frog#healthcare#politics#freedom
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BillHubbard
True, and the won't go bankrupt after an insignificant incident.
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
Socialist Frog /s
phalanxausage
I saw this happen when the ACA went into effect. Proper, universal care would be even greater.
MarkRavingMad
Yeah. The fact that so much corporate money goes into fighting against it is no accident,
DamascusFire
Yes that's right, your government has been supressing your freedoms
Anju42
It would be if you could start a small business
Mediocreclient
I'm not really sure the world needs more sole proprietorships and SMBs. People shouldn't need a brand to live a good life.
ThatPug
Having the loaded gun of losing healthcare helps companies treat people as subhuman and do exploitative and illegal things to them.
mittag
Are there proportionately more businesses in Europe compared to US?
varyael
So would UBI and free higher level education. Instead we have trillions dumped into a military used to shoot $1mil missiles at balloons
suiseiseki
Part of the reason they don't want universal healthcare. Got to keep feeding the corporate lobbyists wage slaves.
fractalsphere
It would also allow people to job jump without fear of losing coverage and facing lack of coverage with 'different' insurance.
MeestowKitty
Which would encourage employment contracts guaranteeing employment for a certain stretch of time to minimize this. Another benefit.
gft8gd5khn101
But you’re the selfish one for expecting others to pay pennies from their taxes to save you from cancer and bankruptcy. (sarc)
pyroxferroite
FK Cancer! 3 years ago I was starting to buy a house. Now I'm in a 1 bedroom with whole fam just to save enough to stay near hospital.
robingal1
I am terrified of leaving my job. After I graduate & pursue my career, my health insurance will be unaffordable. Fuck this country
ChromaticPassingTone
It would help, at any rate.
doctorbocker
Yeah, I'm in Ontario. It's better, but there are still barriers to small business, and our "middle-class" is still withering.
afraid2askhow2meme
But that takes away revenues from the elites. So they won’t have it
CandidGamera
As a German: Not if you implement universal healthcare the German way.
Velonici
GF just got laid off. She was thinking of starting a singing business. First thought was what about health insurance. Sucks.
DecentUsernameUnavailable
This. This is exactly why I am thinking about starting my own in a few months. The risk of failure is reasonable.
B4DF15H2
The military holds education hostage. Employers hold health hostage. Can you see the shackles now?
chetnixandflill
It would benefit everyone but those who profit from the healthcare scam. Sadly, it's those people your government cares about and listens to
dwilson0725
Retire early, take part time jobs, really just free people up to make decisions about their own lives. No wonder the GQP hates it.
PirateArrrgument
Megacorporations will do anything to keep the masses producing wealth for the megacorps instead of for the people themselves.
realgeorge73
Healthcare tied to jobs is how the enforce the new era of slavery m, you can’t leave!
Malloon
A working safety net lets people take risk without them being potentially deadly. Good for innovation.
Moral hazard.
SmokyDoggg
Also businesses subsidize Health Insurance. My job pays 50% of the cost so employees can afford it. Universal HC would eliminate these costs
so small businesses didn’t have to have uninsured employees. If you own/work for small business you have to find your own insurance.
Beardedgeek72
As much as I consider universal healthcare a human right, the myth that self employment and owning your own business is freedom needs to die
I teach private lessons (technically self employed) and Ive never had so much freedom. My desk job kept me working and stressed constantly
What I mean I that the propaganda that everyone should start their own business is bad. If it works for you, good for you.
mardukkur
Almost nothing you can do will take away more of your actual freedom than starting your own business.
Twrecks123
It would also reduce the costs small businesses have to bear.
FlatPlutoSociety
1) Kind of. Sure, it'd reduce expenditures on healthcare-related benefits for employees, but a labor force that isn't afraid of ending up
2) with crippling medical bills if they're unemployed for a bit can REALLY negotiate for better wages and conditions. That's what they fear.
This right here. I pay hefty chunk of change monthly toward health/dental/vision/ltd/etc. coverage for my two employees.
Also, depending on the system we set up, you may not need workers comp insurance any more.
We would get diversity of business owners and maybe even challenge some monopolies
zenoshogun
Don't worry they'll still find ways to regulate any effective competition out of business or failing that just do hostile buy outs.
Firsthope
We would also see younger people move into more advanced work positions as older people are able to retire early leading to innovation.
unit48
I remember when I had hope. We need a peaceful revolution with the goal of abolishing class. Take bake what they have stolen.
unluckyandbored
And that's the exact reason we will never get universal healthcare in the US. Too many people profit off the status quo.
And THAT'S why it ain't happenin'.
It did happen. This is the purpose of the ACA exchanges. This is why the right has done everything they can to attack them.
XXXSpork
Eh, ACA is a loooooong way away from Universal tax funded care. A small step in the right direction though.
As may be, the exchanges were designed to give individuals access & pricing akin to what the small group market gives employers.
Firestar002
I thought monopolies were illegal. Then again I learned that 10 years ago, so it could’ve changed.
stankginchfurbuger
No major monopolies have been broken up since the 90s. It just does not happen (because America is an oligarchy)
It's only illegal if there's punishment for it. Since the wealthy do not get punished, everything they do is legal.
Taalii
They are, the punishment involves small fines.
America has shit laws regarding that.
No surprise there.
HasteTheFool
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it isn't allowed.
But.... isn’t that what illegal means? It’s not allowed???
UnrealDreamer
No. Illegal only means there is a law against it. It is only not allowed if the law is enforced.
There's not allowed *shakes head* and not allowed *nods head*. Basically illegal and enforced and illegal but not enforced.
BillHubbard
True, and the won't go bankrupt after an insignificant incident.
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
Socialist Frog /s
phalanxausage
I saw this happen when the ACA went into effect. Proper, universal care would be even greater.
MarkRavingMad
Yeah. The fact that so much corporate money goes into fighting against it is no accident,
DamascusFire
Yes that's right, your government has been supressing your freedoms
Anju42
It would be if you could start a small business
Mediocreclient
I'm not really sure the world needs more sole proprietorships and SMBs. People shouldn't need a brand to live a good life.
ThatPug
Having the loaded gun of losing healthcare helps companies treat people as subhuman and do exploitative and illegal things to them.
mittag
Are there proportionately more businesses in Europe compared to US?
varyael
So would UBI and free higher level education. Instead we have trillions dumped into a military used to shoot $1mil missiles at balloons
suiseiseki
Part of the reason they don't want universal healthcare. Got to keep feeding the corporate lobbyists wage slaves.
fractalsphere
It would also allow people to job jump without fear of losing coverage and facing lack of coverage with 'different' insurance.
MeestowKitty
Which would encourage employment contracts guaranteeing employment for a certain stretch of time to minimize this. Another benefit.
gft8gd5khn101
But you’re the selfish one for expecting others to pay pennies from their taxes to save you from cancer and bankruptcy. (sarc)
pyroxferroite
FK Cancer! 3 years ago I was starting to buy a house. Now I'm in a 1 bedroom with whole fam just to save enough to stay near hospital.
robingal1
I am terrified of leaving my job. After I graduate & pursue my career, my health insurance will be unaffordable. Fuck this country
ChromaticPassingTone
It would help, at any rate.
doctorbocker
Yeah, I'm in Ontario. It's better, but there are still barriers to small business, and our "middle-class" is still withering.
afraid2askhow2meme
But that takes away revenues from the elites. So they won’t have it
CandidGamera
As a German: Not if you implement universal healthcare the German way.
Velonici
GF just got laid off. She was thinking of starting a singing business. First thought was what about health insurance. Sucks.
DecentUsernameUnavailable
This. This is exactly why I am thinking about starting my own in a few months. The risk of failure is reasonable.
B4DF15H2
The military holds education hostage. Employers hold health hostage. Can you see the shackles now?
chetnixandflill
It would benefit everyone but those who profit from the healthcare scam. Sadly, it's those people your government cares about and listens to
dwilson0725
Retire early, take part time jobs, really just free people up to make decisions about their own lives. No wonder the GQP hates it.
PirateArrrgument
Megacorporations will do anything to keep the masses producing wealth for the megacorps instead of for the people themselves.
realgeorge73
Healthcare tied to jobs is how the enforce the new era of slavery m, you can’t leave!
Malloon
A working safety net lets people take risk without them being potentially deadly. Good for innovation.
ChromaticPassingTone
Moral hazard.
SmokyDoggg
Also businesses subsidize Health Insurance. My job pays 50% of the cost so employees can afford it. Universal HC would eliminate these costs
SmokyDoggg
so small businesses didn’t have to have uninsured employees. If you own/work for small business you have to find your own insurance.
Beardedgeek72
As much as I consider universal healthcare a human right, the myth that self employment and owning your own business is freedom needs to die
IJustWantToMakeAComment
I teach private lessons (technically self employed) and Ive never had so much freedom. My desk job kept me working and stressed constantly
Beardedgeek72
What I mean I that the propaganda that everyone should start their own business is bad. If it works for you, good for you.
mardukkur
Almost nothing you can do will take away more of your actual freedom than starting your own business.
Twrecks123
It would also reduce the costs small businesses have to bear.
FlatPlutoSociety
1) Kind of. Sure, it'd reduce expenditures on healthcare-related benefits for employees, but a labor force that isn't afraid of ending up
FlatPlutoSociety
2) with crippling medical bills if they're unemployed for a bit can REALLY negotiate for better wages and conditions. That's what they fear.
ChromaticPassingTone
This right here. I pay hefty chunk of change monthly toward health/dental/vision/ltd/etc. coverage for my two employees.
Twrecks123
Also, depending on the system we set up, you may not need workers comp insurance any more.
IJustWantToMakeAComment
We would get diversity of business owners and maybe even challenge some monopolies
zenoshogun
Don't worry they'll still find ways to regulate any effective competition out of business or failing that just do hostile buy outs.
Firsthope
We would also see younger people move into more advanced work positions as older people are able to retire early leading to innovation.
unit48
I remember when I had hope. We need a peaceful revolution with the goal of abolishing class. Take bake what they have stolen.
unluckyandbored
And that's the exact reason we will never get universal healthcare in the US. Too many people profit off the status quo.
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
And THAT'S why it ain't happenin'.
mardukkur
It did happen. This is the purpose of the ACA exchanges. This is why the right has done everything they can to attack them.
XXXSpork
Eh, ACA is a loooooong way away from Universal tax funded care. A small step in the right direction though.
mardukkur
As may be, the exchanges were designed to give individuals access & pricing akin to what the small group market gives employers.
Firestar002
I thought monopolies were illegal. Then again I learned that 10 years ago, so it could’ve changed.
stankginchfurbuger
No major monopolies have been broken up since the 90s. It just does not happen (because America is an oligarchy)
unluckyandbored
It's only illegal if there's punishment for it. Since the wealthy do not get punished, everything they do is legal.
Taalii
They are, the punishment involves small fines.
Beardedgeek72
America has shit laws regarding that.
Firestar002
No surprise there.
HasteTheFool
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it isn't allowed.
Firestar002
But.... isn’t that what illegal means? It’s not allowed???
UnrealDreamer
No. Illegal only means there is a law against it. It is only not allowed if the law is enforced.
HasteTheFool
There's not allowed *shakes head* and not allowed *nods head*. Basically illegal and enforced and illegal but not enforced.