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Last stand for digital privacy.
International implications due to the platforms having back doors.
Sauce: https://slate.com/technology/2020/06/lawful-access-encrypted-data-act.amp
FP Edit: was suggested in the comments I add a couple links referring to the EARN IT bill as well. Shout out to @maqp2
As requested:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/earn-it-bill-governments-not-so-secret-plan-scan-every-message-online
https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there’s-now-even-worse-anti-encryption-bill-earn-it-doesn’t-make-earn-it-bill-ok
FunkyFetusFeet
I hate republican Bill. Vote him out!
licmasack
I’m not so sure I want uncle Sam using my backdoor any more than he does already ... it’s still tender from tax day
bassoon713
Just left a voicemail for my state senators for the first time ever regarding opposing both bills. Thank you for the info.
ChelVanin
If only there was a way to rebrand the bill as the Obama-Communist-Decryption-Plan....
SuitcaseJefferson
Old pricks in power that have no fucking idea how tech works.
gurlsnuggler
This doesn’t end well.
SectionF4
Encryption, and the technology surrounding it, exists already. The government can't do shit to "weaken" it.
mtreis86
Good luck making maths illegal, stupid fucks
cousteau
Worked for China…
CrashInfinite
Do you want a hacked election? this is how you get a hacked election. Oh, wait, they do want that.
Omnimorph2112
China looking forward to this.
cousteau
China's already banned encryption, so they're way ahead of the US in this. But yeah, I can see how they could use this to their advantage.
hakunamatatamotherfucker
China doesn't care. They won this war before it even started. Almost every equipment done by them has backdoors to them.
Quylein
It'll be great when all the future apps come from China though.. /s
LAMovieDesign
Why are republicans always trying to pass bills that would make life harder for us?
Thisisnotreallymyname
Time for Silicon Valley 2.0 over in Europe.
DamnedAustin
Please, Republicans, tell me more about "bOtH sIdEs!"
BettyifyoucallmeyoucancallmeAl
Alright, where does this Bill guy live?
GoodChange
He’s at the Barr
WaytolurkLurker
Bruh, America needs a hard reset.
InsensitiveComments
Republicans bad brrrrrr
activeracer28
Just making it easier for Russian bots to rig our election.
NoRoutesFound
Fuck this.
insomniac24x7
Wait republicans know what encryption is?
evilcarp
They haven't a clue how it works. Never give them the encryption key.
elganif
No, they just know it makes data more expensive, not why or what it is
superseriouscomments
Government wants you to build an extra door into your house so they can enter it in case of ... an emergency. And the key is a screwdriver.
superseriouscomments
Potential for abuse according to the government: none. Potential for abuse according to sane people: infinite.
4vie
Yay big marketing!
penzick
@OP, A link for people to act: https://act.eff.org/action/stop-the-earn-it-bill-before-it-breaks-encryption
hypemonkeyOG
cousteau
+1 for a link to EFF and not a shitty change.org petition that won't do a damn thing (other than give you spam)
SheepySleepySmuggler
Allowing law enforcement to access encrypted content MAY provide evidence that they don't currently have access to. It WILL weaken...
SheepySleepySmuggler
... security for EVERYBODY in the process. Sensible politicians would realise the sacrifice isn't worth the cost. Unfortunately...
SheepySleepySmuggler
...we seem to have a shortage of sensible politicians.
Bystandr
Its not going unnoticed. I havent spoken to anyone who has thought this is a good idea. Even those in intelligence lament the lack of
Bystandr
security it will create by making it easier for outside operators to gain access through the same back doors. They're about to shoot
Bystandr
themselves in the foot with this one.
MyCodeHas99BugsButAPatchAintComing
It's funny how the thumbnail is for Zoom. Which is notorious for NOT using encryption at all...
thinknuts
Not so. Zoom has always used encryption, but not end to end encryption. It's decrypted in the middle to provide things like telephone dialin
MyCodeHas99BugsButAPatchAintComing
Did mean that. Got lost in translation of limited characters ?
SheepySleepySmuggler
And data mining...have to pay for those free users somehow. End-to-end encryption is a feature you pay for.
ghostdr
Everyone uses encryption. Thing is zoom, like almost all other video/chat services, decrypts on the way so they can read/see what your doing
MyCodeHas99BugsButAPatchAintComing
Ok, ok. I meant end to end encryption. Which should really be implied, but guess users don't understand
ghostdr
That doesn't mean it isn't a blatant disregard for privacy, but unfortunately every well known chat/video service does this
soulsource
Most, but not every well known video service. Jitsi for instance does not, and you can host it yourself if you want.
N0083rP00F
More a - we need to run off the shelf server software and video isn't used to secure communications - then people used it for secure comm
trashiestoftrashever
They should need a warrant to be able to do anything with our data
theyar
Well this bill doesn't change that.
SgtDefaultGN
Yes, but also, don’t give it up so easy. Protect yourself, your gov does not care.
trashiestoftrashever
I know,
Noctourn
GOP are currently passing dozens of bills that allow selling out to enemy powers. They are cashing out before jumping ship but you lose
MantisTobogganPilotMD
got any sources for this? or what bills they are?
HuginnandMunnin
Unpopular opinion these days but just because a bill is introduced by a republican doesn't make it a "republican's as a whole" bill.
GoldFrieza
They are a hivemind.
Noctourn
It does. But it doesn't make it a conservatives bill. The Republican party no longer pretends to represent conservative values
HuginnandMunnin
So by that logic, a single individual speaks for the entire human race? Just because I choose to do something does not mean I represent you.
Noctourn
Strawman fallacy. You can't do better than that? A group does represent a larger group if they defend those decisions
HuginnandMunnin
If a Democrat presented that bill the article would just say "A bill has been presented..." What I'm trying to get at is the title is biased
Arktc
you can't ban anyway cryptography anymore than you can ban away trigonometry or chemistry it just doesn't work like that. and anyone with -
Arktc
a basic understanding of computer science should know this. these type if idiot laws won't stop a single intelligent terrorist or pedo they
Arktc
only serve to make spying on the populace easier and could quite literal backfire if it drives many privacy conscious but innocent people
Arktc
to use non hobbled encryption services. where as previously you could at least glean some insite from meta data and suspect anyone using tor
Arktc
or an international vpn may be hiding something, now that will be lost in the swamp of people who just don't want Uncle Sam peeking in.
FrogBotherer
This is not about catching criminals, this makes *easier* for criminals to steal passwords, bank details, private messages, and lives -
BoooBerry
Because Slate is, like so objective, and stuff. Totally trustworthy. X'D. Oh well, it's good for fake points around here, so BOOOO GOP! LOL
Bonchoman
Criminals like the lawmakers
MrWobblyHead
I'd just hope they use it against the politicians. Use the backdoors to obtain information about them that none would want us to see.
RandomInternetAsshole
They’ll probably have some loophole where they can e2e encrypt without being liable to the rule they made. They’ll claim National Security
Thelrishlnquistion
That’s what I was thinking; wouldn’t this be a hackers dream?
CommentBot3000
Both individual hackers and state backed groups, China and Russia would love this.
BenSnow97
For a cybercriminal's, yes. Most of hacker culture is not about that though, and they fucking hate living in a world ran by profiteering >
BenSnow97
gluttons who deliberately weaken security just so they can live off stealing user data. It's just another thing that's a crime unless >
BenSnow97
you're rich enough to have your company's name be used as a generic noun or verb in everyday conversations.
FrogBotherer
To be honest I would bet that even white hat hackers would race to crack the back doors open, just to see who could do it fastest.
BenSnow97
Yes, but also with the intent to fix them. Which doesn't apply if said backdoor is legally mandated and will have senators fighting for >
BenSnow97
its existence. Although, in that case white hats will just be more aggressive, since it's about proving the regulation is stupid, which is >
FrogBotherer
This is about allowing government agencies access to vast amounts of data that they previously would have needed a court order to have.
Lapkin
It seems that not only Russia takes the worst ideas from the US, but US also takes the worst ideas from Russia
jethro007
You should probably read the bill.
jethro007
It literally says the opposite of what you just said here
sykoticflaw
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you don't work in IT. There is no such thing as a "safe" backdoor. It will get exploited.
jethro007
If it's so easy why are they trying to create the law?
jethro007
Also my comments aren't about the technology. It's the dumbass who said the opposite of what the bill states.
AlaskanX
Encryption is built so only a server and client can read the data exchanged. There is no way to build a safe backdoor. 1/*
AlaskanX
If there is a backdoor, malicious actors will find the key eventually. This includes govt, which doesn’t care about our privacy. 2/2
theyar
But the whole thing is based on requiring a court order.
FrogBotherer
Yes, let's trust the authorities to act lawfully and in the public interest...
theyar
If you don't then it doesn't matter if this is legal or not.
FrogBotherer
It does because currently it's impractical to decrypt messages, if you make it mandatory to add backdoors then they can just help themselves