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AlmostClever
The official Bob Ross YouTube channel does this for their weekend marathon streams. Really bums me out, it would otherwise be the perfect background noise on a lazy Friday or Saturday night.
zwomally
I think it should be illegal for car horns / traffic noises to be in radio ads.
kayakninjas
It is, but there are tricks to making it seem louder without technically increasing the volume and advertisers take full advantage. You can't just throw a decibel limit on there and call it a day, but the laws haven't caught up.
HollerinAtTheVoid
I actually watched a vote on law for tv commercial volume to basically follow this principle. It was pretty overwhelmingly bipartisan. Almost everyone voted in favor of turning that shit down.
PacMan4Life
Also, cuts in movies should not have a brightness difference greater than x lux (I haven't done the math, but x = the value where someone audibly swears in the movie theatre because it's too fuckin' bright)
SirNameless
Except for the Goldeneye 007 pause music. Absolute banger, that one.
https://youtu.be/A7lLHJ6yfH0?si=p61AxH01iIwVMt_q
ActuallyAPirate
i should get a bandit tattoo....
slack3rdav3
visited a gas station and they had un-mutable ads for the first time. never going back there again... FYI, some that do play ads you can actually mute. its generally the second from the top right button if i remember correctly (i dont generally go to gas stations with ads)
DCNR
I approve of this format.
Macwalrus
My mom is pretty deaf and the advertisements are basically jump scares for me.
xj4low
My samsung tv has some channels that are super quiet and other channels that are normal. I've tried many things but can't figure it out. It ports via an optical cable to a sound bar.
SamuthNBS
It already is illegal, so they aren't louder. They have the same MAX volume as the show, they just put everything at max whereas the show has loud parts and quiet parts.
executivedisfunction
And, the frequency spectrum is loaded to what has the most impact, almost as if Louder.
WhatSayYouCitizen
Fun fact: Back in the old days of OTA and Cable TV, there was a device that you plugged into your TV that would mute/fuzz commercials based entirely on the volume level in the signal suddenly going up.
SaintSleepyWeasel
This was indeed a genius level invention. Like the engineering of a sound sensor capable of that pre computers is rad. My folks had one.
rbudrick
It used to be for over the air, but afaik, streaming and innerwebs made a gray area law didn't catch up to. Glad to be corrected.
Nightcaste
I think device manufacturers should just change the way volume control works. Instead of setting it at an arbitrary value and the sound level coming out varies, set it so that the sound level coming out is consistent. Make exceptions for emergency alerts and stuff.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
HI IM BARRY SCOTT
w1k2
I heard bandits voice when I read it
Robohobo541
Thank you for making this Bluey
WebDragonG3
the commercials playing out of the Microsoft Solitaire app are always JARRINGLY LOUD and the only thing that sucks worse than that is when they leave off any way to mute that particular admmercial
TheDrunkNinja
Thanks for not using Crowder
TheobromineAddict
You'll have to create a precise definition for "louder". Commercials often use over-compressed audio, which lacks natural dynamic range and so sounds louder. Highly compressed commercials still peak at the same signal level as the surrounding programming. And commercials may have more energy and harmonic content in the mid-range, which is the frequency range that the human ear is most sensitive to, so seems louder.
DaSauceSeeker
Nothing beats listening to some peaceful ASMR on YouTube suddenly interrupted by an ear shattering loud ad...
SirJimmothy
If you're on Windows, try the following:
YangKoete
Adblock says hi! If you're on mobile, get firefox. Adblock works on it.
Eldibs
Depending on your system, on your PC you can often turn on volume leveling (my Realtek aduio drivers have it listen as Loudness Equalization). You can probably install third-party software to do it for you too.
georgedragonslayer
I don't even care about the volume anymore. Cable was supposed to be "add free" because you paid for it. Same with satellite. Now we have online streaming that was supposed to be free. But then online streaming started to charge a monthly fee to remain "ad free". And now we have to pay for a monthly subscription to watch ads? Am I out of line with saying, fuck them? - Me, an old cantankerous dude.
yougotredonyu
With the exception of GoldenEye right?
allmycommentsareGold
If you're feeling petty, leave a bad review of the product being advertised when they do that
METROlD
I will up you one. Streaming services should not start music and blasting previews of a movie while you are just clicking through titles. Everyone hates a webpage that starts blasting music. I am sitting in my quiet safe living room and while clicking through Netflix looking for a title they start blasting a song I have associated with very bad memories. What the fuck Netflix. Can we please just not do this!? OK I guess I should just use the mute button. Or maybe, they can just STFU.
slack3rdav3
you can turn that off btw. i think you have to go to their website on a computer in order to do it... at least that is what i did a few years ago.
METROlD
Yeah O saw that too. Years ago. In account settings. Website only. Can’t do it from a TV. What really made me mad is that Plex started doing it on my own damned media server. They all do it. I am so sick of constantly having to to mute my TV. Even when I have paid for all licenses and content. Sure I can find the setting. But I feel like it’s a dumb idea that doesn’t add value and ai prefer to bitch about it instead.
Burke616
"Oh, hey, I notice you're on this show/movie's page, maybe reading the synopsis and thinking about it. I'll just start playing the show while you're reading, shall I?"
EmeraldLight
That pisses me off. If I wanted to watch, I would click play! LET. ME. READ.
jonhamsandwich11
Or even just the cinematic moments where the music DOUBLES IN FUCKING VOLUME. Nothing makes a movie feel like shit more than fucking with the volume continually
3Davideo
I mean, it *can* be done correctly. The issue is that it usually isn't.
cgt9803
This. Music and sound effects vastly louder than the dialogue makes your movie a piece of shit to me.
SlammedCarsAreRuinedCars
whispers... and EXPLOSIONS
JackieTreehornProductions
Most modern tvs and home amps have DRC (Dynamic Range Control) or auto-loudness controls to let you normalize the volumes so you don't have nearly the dynamic range available. Sometimes it's also labeled Night Listening Mode or other similar names so you don't have loud explosions waking people up.
TinyLiehon
Can we get that for streaming services too? I get the producer has a cinematic vision they want to deliver but please give me a "kids are asleep, make speech audible, don't let SFX or music go above ## dB"-option
SirrelSquirrel
Movies do have a cinematic mix and home entertainment mix, the latter is used by the streaming services. Problem is everyone at home has different sound setups so theyb don't want to hamper the home mix too much otherwise they'd upset the people with multiple speakers at home.
TinyLiehon
Make a "don't wake up my kids, I really want to watch a fifth of this movie tonight so I can be done with it by the end of the month"-mode
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theGORTtakethaway
Michael. Fucking. Bay.
Ayemconfoozed
I think „Interstellar“ was the worst offender of his movies. Don’t get me wrong, i absolutely love this movie, and the score is also phenomenal, but compared to dialogue really loud.
JackieTreehornProductions
Interstellar is the first movie I've seen/heard where they engineered actual clipping of the sound on purpose. Usually clipping is a failure of proper audio engineering but it's actually in there on purpose I guess to make you go "That's really loud! Too loud". I think it's the docking scene with the organ just dumping all sorts of bass on top of the engines that had it.
ThatRaccoonGuy
Oh my god. It was so annoying when my family was trying to watch the Marvel movies and you could barely hear whispers, but if you turn up the volume, then the sudden crescendo of music and explosions in the next scene makes the walls vibrate and the neighbors complain. Meanwhile I watch older action movies and they actually balanced the damn sound.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
I have been told that is because old action movies, the sound was set up for TV speakers. Not the sound is set up for a system with 5 plus speakers working as surround sound. I guess if you have a sound system, it isn't as bad because you have dedicated channels for the parts.
Metallica93
This is a problem with modern cinema beyond the big blockbusters, sadly. Sound guys get ignored or have little say, directors take a "We'll fix it in post" attitude, etc. It sucks.
Burke616
"What post? This is the post, I'm the post guy, I'm trying to fix it, and you're not letting me. This is the part where we balance the sound."
UserNamesArentEasy
Part of the issue is that the sound would be better if you have a good surround sound setup with a good Center Channel speaker. That would equalize the volume of the dialog and such. However like myself I use just the TV speakers and this shit just sucks.
thetickcannothaveaspoontoobig
That's the issue. The production companies stopped making a stereo version of the audio, so if you don't use 5.1/7.1 it will always be quiet
Gerokeymaster
They used to actually remix the audio in movies before home releases, but that got dropped along the way in the rush to put things out as quickly as possible.
Burke616
Cheaply > quickly
mrbadgerr
But it happens at the movies too...
BladeTurMoiL
Nah, they just overcompensate and make the action loud as measurable fuck, so when the whispers and dialogue comes on, you’re still partially deaf
Foxsayy
This sounds like the same problem just described slightly differently.
BladeTurMoiL
Yeah basically lol
ICampOntheFirstDate
Technically it is illegal. FCC even has a dedicated page for filing that exact complaint. I've used it a few times.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
TIL!
hwatL4bloopy
The problem is you can Max the volume out to the loudest sound in whatever show you're watching. Unfortunately that includes gunshots
mischiev
I worked for a big video ad tech company back when this was implemented:
https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/sound-volume-commercials-calm-act
We implemented tools to process and adjust all advertisements we handled.
duhqueenmoki
No joke, a few years ago Hulu did this consistently, along with Amazon. Enough ppl must have filed reports (including myself) because I haven't noticed it in a while
tintoverde
WHERE IS THE LINK
baals
Every 'free with ads" movie on YouTube is like this. The movie is so silent you have to turn it way up to barely hear dialogue then POW
AlexisWalker
*laughs in adblocker*
nomunnywunnytilugetthebunnyhunny
FX needs to be reported. They may have the movies but their commercials are deafening.
CrimeBrulee
So the trick is simple: they take the single loudest point in the broadcast, then take the ad and raise the level of all the audio to that point. Loophole baby!!
stonecoldstevebuschemi
Normalize
Hashbrown123
This. Ads can't be louder than the loudest point of the movie/show.
meauho
It's worse: the average volume of the ad has to be no louder than the loudest part of the broadcast, which is why some especially loud commercials have just a screen with the information or "poorly timed" followup commercials where they have a moment of blank screen and silence.
CrimeBrulee
No shit? That's devious AF. Fuck 'em, but you know, respect the game.
bortlp
1. Not "technically" illegal, very much illegal. 2. Hard to enforce because the process relies on the complaint form you mentioned, is subjective, and varried equipment. 3. The law says the decibels cannot be higher, but the companies editing the commercials have found a work around where they don't raise the dB but other settings (can't remember what specifically) that make it seem louder without actually being louder. Tom Scott had a video on it, I think? Some respected YouTuber did at least.
Psionickitten
Technically correct IS the best kind of correct
dalaiyoda
Compression. Instead of the dynamics (loud/soft) of regular music, you bring the quieter frequencies up to kind of same-volumize everything.
flavivsaetivs
Yep, I used to work A/V for local Churches and we used this a lot because people always complained "it was too quiet" because the dude on stage couldn't hold a microphone up to his mouth.
Moose79
They just make them deep fried
BeneBeGood
Not illegal. FCC only monitors public radio and TV (old-school broadcasting). Internet not included (except in regards to net neutrality). There is no US agency that monitors the content within a website (that I know of). Legal eagle mentioned it a youtube on it.
meauho
The average volume of the commercial has to be no louder than the highest volume of the program.
DaithiUK
So as long as it less than the THX logo at the start of the movie then they're good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWkJ86JqlPA
thotterpop
Someone told me a while back, I think the term used was "compressed audio". Something like every part of the audio in the commercial is turned up to the highest possible volume while just getting by. btw, streaming services don't care, (or this doesn't apply to them?) so that's why they suck more in that aspect.
deweydecibel
It seems like perceived loudness would be easy to measure, but it’s not. You can measure decibels (dBs) but it’s easy to have something with a higher dB seem quieter than something with a lower dB. Here’s a good example: you ever have the big TV or home stereo on, but someone in the same room watching something on their phone cuts through? That’s about the mix/mastering/compression plus the range (or lack there of) of the tiny speakers on a phone. Even though the phone has tiny speakers…
deweydecibel
…the audio is processed in such a way that it seems louder, it cuts through. Google “loudness wars” if you want to learn more. The mastering/compression thing became a sort of arms race with the birth of the mp3 and iPhones/iTunes
tschallacka
How about the audiogram of the show with transfer to the commercial. There it should go from waves to solid blocks
deweydecibel
Yeah, the commercial will be more of a solid block. Brick wall limiting