Yupurineutah
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A new display at the museum.
Reminded me of this.
Feb 11, 2024 1:58 AM
Yupurineutah
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A new display at the museum.
Reminded me of this.
ToSisPoS
*how every country in the Western Hemisphere
RuricOrhlandis
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surprisinglynotmyrealname
#1 won't ship international sadly. Anyone want to remail for me?
PutItInNeutral
"And Then There Were None" Imagine making your book title so racist that you have to change it twice because even the second title was still racist.
BillandTedsUnremarkableTripToCostCo
The original logo was an example of the Droste effect, in which an image appears within itself https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droste_effect
Yupurineutah
Wow. We had at least one of those tins but it is long lost. I still have this one though. /gallery/Z0he0Ne
graehall
simmonsj7984
As a Grand Ronde tribal member, I approve.
Goatfer
I mean to be fair, Native Americans didn't have dairy so they appropriated the imagery to begin with.
Yupurineutah
This. I think the original image invokes a "squaw" cheerfully hunching over a butter churn. Apparently the First Peoples and many other peoples cannot digest dairy in adulthood.
luzeke
Pocahontas wasn't Kalapuyan, tho
Yupurineutah
https://fiveoaksmuseum.org/this-is-kalapuyan-land-timeline/ Neither was Sacagawea
drinkthederpentine
If a butter logo affects your life significantly, maybe you should re examine your priorities
Yupurineutah
I like butter. But if forced farming involves the genocide of other peoples maybe you should re-examine yours. đ
drinkthederpentine
Fucking stupid. It's a logo. The butter company didn't kill anyone, fucking obviously
Yupurineutah
lamontcranston
The Land O'Lakes girl was painted by Patrick DesJarlait, a member of the Red Lake Band of Chippewa Indians. He also designed the Hamms Beer bear. His personal non-commercial art was cubism inspired and focused on highlighting Native American industry, depicting fishermen, farmers, weavers, etc
gandalftheslay
NATIVE. LIVES. MATTER.
KaptainObveeus
Which is why they removed the woman, it was offensive
Yupurineutah
That occurred to me as well. Hopefully they will have enough insight to change the entire label to something less obvious that they only removed the native.
Hyndisfox
They removed the woman but kept her land. Thats even more offensive.
KaptainObveeus
The point is they literally removed it out of respect for the natives and they get ripped on for doing the opposite
ArgonSpark
I like how they were called racist for removing the racist logo. If there's anything a Democrat hates it's a Democrat who isn't Democrat enough.
doesntmatter
It wasn't a racist logo. Depicting native Americans in a respectful manner isn't racist. It was removed because of white hysteria, not because of criticism from the nation depicted.
ChironChandler
They weren't called racist, it's a meme.
Yupurineutah
Yup them damn Democrats smuggling in uppity Injuns to stir up trouble for sorry racists. I think there's still a billionaire's fart you have failed to inhale.
ArgonSpark
I don't like billionaires.
Yupurineutah
Well you don't look it right now.
ArgonSpark
Sounds like a 'you' problem.
jwillustrat
They had the perfect opportunity to change the name to Land-O-Calrissian.
robofuck
Why the hell would they do that? It's a Minnesota company, we're known as the land of lakes.
Fendeezy
And fuck with the mouse? He will end you and anyone who even knows your name.
luzeke
Land-O-Lakers, change the circle to a basketball.
TheGodEmperorOfChaos
The mouse would never allow it.
WarlockSniper
Good old Capitalism Rat.
Bojovnik84
Land O Lakes is the name of the city it is made from here in FL.
Yupurineutah
Really? Because that sounds like something made from margarine and the fat if alligators and retirees.
schmoo38
Minnesota, isnât it?
ErniesWidow
Land O'Lakes corporate headquarters is located in Arden Hills, Minnesota, just minutes outside of both Minneapolis and St. Paul. However, for years I thought is was Land O'Lakes, Florida. I live in Pasco County.
JohnSchindel
dfhowes
Came here looking for this. đ
NekoKamiGuru
Do you want to know the complicated part , indigenous status is granted based on tribal membership and cultural affiliation, not genetics. So someone who is 1/32 indigenous can be indigenous if they have tribal elders sign off on it , but someone who is 1/4 indigenous is not indigenous if no tribal body will acknowledge them due to their grandparent refusing to acknowledge paternity of their parent. or the grandparent being disgraced and exiled.
Yupurineutah
Weird. It's almost as if genocide and colonization by design destroys culture to establish and maintain capitalism.
NekoKamiGuru
The absurdity kicks in when the person who is genetically 1/4 indigenous is required to attend mandatory racial sensitivity training course at their college delivered by the person who is 1/32 indigenous and learn about how to overcome their white privlige.
This is manifestly unjust.
Yupurineutah
I think you left a couple of your pearls unclutched. Do tell, is that true or did you see that on Fox?
doesntmatter
Nationality is not based on genetics but participation. An American of 1/4 Swedish descent will be less Swedish than a 1/32 Swede whose parents moved to Sweden, or many people who completely lack ethnical Swedish ancestry but integrate and become part of the nation. Thinking that it's primarily about genetics is pure racism.
Yupurineutah
WTF? I'm an American of 100% Dutch descent whose parents moved to America. That was by choice. The Kalapuya, among so many other nations, didn't get the choice to integrate and become part of the "nation". And to this very day are not fully accepted as part of it because of genetics and pure racism.
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
#2 They make use of prison labor.
Ryebread91
Damnit... I've already tried to boycott Tyson for their covid BS now eggland and land o lakes too?
DukePhelan
If you are trying to avoid corporations benefiting from the slavery I have bad news its pretty much all of them. https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ILAB/child_labor_reports/tda2019/2020_TVPRA_List_Online_Final.pdf
Ryebread91
So can American companies be allowed to use said labor sources?
DukePhelan
The US prison system is one of the largest uses of slave labor in the western world and all state sanctioned. And yes US companies use them quite a bit. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/15/us-prison-workers-low-wages-exploited
Ryebread91
I mean the foreign ones. Like how is Nike still allowed to do that?
Jonson71
The middle image where the Land O Lakes woman is flipping off McDonalds makes me wonder what McDonald's did to native Americans
HeSaysFantastic
I zoomed in and I think it says "McColonizer speaks to the impact of the colonial diet on indigenous communities' health and wellbeing over multiple generations"
Jonson71
Hey, seriously? Thank you. I appreciate it.
Yupurineutah
I was curious myself. Another commenter says:
HeSaysFantastic
You're welcome. I was curious too. I'm also slightly short-sighted so I'm pretty practiced at making words out of blurs.
VaultGirl69
Don't forget about Hawaii. We did the queen so dirty. She tried to keep their sovereignty by working with the American government. Now a bunch of rich people own the Oceanside real estate with most of the indigenous descendants financially struggling and pushed inland. And any number of other "territories" such as Guam, whose people fight our wars without the benefits given to our soldiers.
MrReallyObvious
Hawaii was going to get taken over by someone because of their strategic location and inability to prevent it. It would have been much worse if Japan had invaded them. We at least let them keep some of their culture and didnât kill all of them.
Overland671
Preach!! As a native of Guahan thank you. We are never recognized and still colonized
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Such a wonderfull country this united states is /a
blainetog
Hawaii also recently struck down the second amendment because it violated the Spirit of Aloha. That's obviously not going to survive challenges, but it means we're also responsible for every shooting death on the islands. Those guns wouldn't be there if not for MURICA.
TheYoungBear
I mean yes and no, Kamehameha bought guns and cannons from European traders to gain control of the islands creating the Kingdom of Hawaii
VaultGirl69
Good. I'm sick of hearing about daily school shootings on the mainland. We have failed to be a decent country, even in regards to our own citizens.
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
The spirit of aloha might be a contributing factor as to why theyâre a conquered nation. :(
TinyVanLife
You should read up on history, because that ainât it. The real answer has more to do with capitalism and overwhelming military power against a tiny island nation. You can google âHawaii annexation illegalâ for more info.
VaultGirl69
Her queen even attempted to work legally with our government. They would have been better off fighting us.
pennypoohbear
I use this butter. It is awesome
DougTheLlama
I use it for baking. Day to day I use whatever's on sale
HelloThere1812
As opposed to literally any other butter? What makes it different?
unclesporky
the lakes
Yupurineutah
Asking the real question! Do tell, @pennypoohbear ? đ
pennypoohbear
I'm sure it's the butter that was used in Last Tango in Paris.
Ryebread91
It's a good all around butter for baking and spreading. (At least compared to what was available growing up in the Midwest in the 90s)
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
I use butter for a lot of stovetop cooking and Land-O-Lakes is the best for not just burning off in the skillet, almost like a fake butter but it's actually the real deal. Other butters may *taste* better, but if they fuck off halfway through the cook they're not doing me much good. So fancy Irish butters for when I want to taste butter, like spreading on toast, and cheaper L-O-L for cooking.
pennypoohbear
It has a very fine butter taste. It spreads pretty easy. It's pretty not high priced
spatchula13
Compared to the generic wal mart brand butter, literally nothing. The product is produced exactly the same and the assembly line only verges at the end for different packaging. (From a previous land o lakes employee)
HelloThere1812
I knew it! Thank you!
Hkafodays
Curious you said "use", not "eat"....
HelloThere1812
He cut out the big O on the box for... reasons.
MeltedSkulls
Fendeezy
I mean, do you eat butter on its own?
spatchula13
Fun fact: the Land-O-Lakes butter and the generic Wal Mart brand butter literally come off the same assembly line and only verge at the end for different packaging. (From a land o lakes employee)
Vergenbuurg
anonymous
I don't get it.
HotSauceOnMyButthole
Still with the feathers thou, eh
poscduke
koops
âDouble creamâ
LokilairTTV
Thiiiiiiccc butter
OvertleyBadpickuplines
Zuegma197777
Well butter Mah tits.
MeltedSkulls
Yupurineutah
CatSparkleBreaker
it doesn't count if you boof it
Yupurineutah
Eatin' ain't cheatin' and soaking ain't focking.
koops
Redshadow09
fuck yeah
hyperfell
thebigby
wadatahmydamie
Oh my god itâs even drawn to reference the cutout boob joke
Vergenbuurg
Yes. Yes, they did. /gallery/uSToVLv/comment/1810653175 NSFW
hollenqual
I cant see the content of the link. Can you explain it?
Vergenbuurg
Someone photoshopped the Poovey Farms image, to place her knees up at her chest, including duplicating the "bulge" on the one knee on both, to make it look like a pair of breasts.
Overextendeddullard
Pam is sooo sexy
DrClaww
Aforaseem
Rogerwilco1974
We try not to sexualize Pam
Aforaseem
mattbl
Wrong Pan but you got the spirit
Aforaseem
mattbl
quade
Mu favorite part about #2: They changed their image to zoom her breasts out of the frame (FOR REASONS) before realizing it was racist.
Tylurker
I remember as kids we would take it and fold it so her knees became her boobs
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
https://media1.tenor.com/m/SpijUPbX8iAAAAAC/simpsons-butter.gif
quade
My dad showed me this in the 80s. I passed it along to future generations. Land O Lakes robbed us of our heritage.
unclesporky
It wasn't racist. It was created by an indigenous artist and is in no way comparable to other tasteless depictions like the Redskins or anything like that. The "food mascot panic" basically removed all diversity from store shelves and put nothing in its place. But white people are fine, we've still got Orville Redenbacher...
sistermoon
"Red Lake Ojibwe artist Patrick DesJarlait updated Mia's image in the 1950s. Her clothes were changed to match specific Ojibwe styles, and the background became a specific location in the Ojibwe territory, the Red Lake in Minnesota."-Wikipedia
FlyingInABlueDream
Hold up on the Redskins logo:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/07/a-native-american-designed-washingtons-logo-now-his-family-want-it-back
The logo was a composite of portraits of a Blackfeet chief named White Calf (who was marketed to wealthy tourists of Glacier National Park as Two Guns White Calf). Blackie considered the logo a sort of âunification symbolâ among Native Americans.
unclesporky
I may have meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Wahoo
sistermoon
As a Native American seeing the "Land O Lakes" Indian woman on your butter package made my family and myself feel sense of pride and loved by your company. Showing Native Americans on such a simple and wholesome product as American Butter made us feel "honored" as a guest in everyone's home. The new package looks blank and lifeless. Instead of reminding us that Native Americans are honored at everyoneâs dinner table, the blank container reminds us of the "erasure" 1/2
sistermoon
of the my peoples and culture, who where here long before the colonization of North America.â
Change.org
Erin Dixon,
Chair of the Wopumnes Nisenan-Mewuk
a Federally Documented, 1935 IRA Voting Tribe
I donât know if that is all Native Americanâs stance, but it shows many didnât want her removed
Acc87
Who is responsible for this erasure? I mean I'm sure it's not the actual minorities themselves, rather people using you as "something" to morally elevate themselves.
FlyingInABlueDream
I'd say anyone that automatically assumes that depictions of Native Americans are racist holds a small part of the blame
Hashbrown123
Yeah, wasn't the tribe proud of it and said they wanted it to stay?
Yupurineutah
Well if you're going to say that, elucidate us of which tribe you speak.
Hashbrown123
No clue, just heard something about how they were proud of it because she was from their tribe.
Theoj05
Ojibwe. And an Ojibwe artist drew it originally. I'm fine with it being gone obviously, but I don't think this depiction is the same as some others we've seen disappear. (Aunt Jemima...)
Yupurineutah
Thanks. But don't get me in this mess. https://youtu.be/Rg4lpu_9iKE?si=h7lvuAR7ss89GoZq
Yupurineutah
Awesome. Who?
unclesporky
He makes popcorn.
Yupurineutah
Thanks Orville
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
When do we get to hear about reparations for Native Americans?
WigglyBlondeNoodle
We gave them a scrap of land and only killed most of them. They should be grateful! /s
randomzash
Not for most, but some good news in small pockets. https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2023/12/keweenaw-bay-tribe-to-get-34-million-for-land-stolen-150-years-ago.html
DukePhelan
If you want the spoils of war you have to win first.
meskarune
I think a good start is upholding the treaty the us keeps breaking
theycallmemichael
In this economy?? /s
gtotherizzle
Hah!
Tumescentpie
That was a genocide America has decided that didn't happen or if it did happen it was the British and French and Spanish and not America. But if it was America those were savages that God said it was okay to rape and murder.
WhoToldYouLifeWasFair
The very spirit of 'Manifest Destiny'.
ChicagRealt0r
How about we give all state and national parks back to the native population? They should also receive the budget for the parks for any upkeep necessary.
kibbypie
Theyâre doing this in Australia.
KaptainObveeus
The removal of the native woman was apparently because the image itself was racist and the natives wanted her gone.
Margrave9000
There's the catch. It doesn't make them removing it non-racist. The only proper course is to get educated on the matter and implement effective reparations to the members of the Native community.
KaptainObveeus
If someone takes a step in the right direction we want to encourage that not shit on them for it
Margrave9000
Tiny steps 'in the right direction' without reaching the actual right policies are worse than worthless. Their purpose is to neutralize the pressure to change without changing and prolong the capitalistic, imperialist ice, racist, exploitative, unjust status quo.
yifin
I had a daydream a while back where they had artists from various tribes do art for the boxes and they rotated the art
Margrave9000
A better daydream would be to have the corporation(and the profits extracted over the past 3 generations, with interests) handed over to the Natives and the employees and get rid of the WASP capitalist cishet males that own it.
doesntmatter
Like the person who did that design of the logo originally, you mean? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_DesJarlait. You can't do that. White people think it's racist if it depicts native Americans.
SteveTheEgg
Natives loving on the rez do get some money from the federal government.
SteveTheEgg
*living.
Samja192
Doesn't matter the country, reparations to a native population always seems to be a tricky conversation. For the oppressors anyway.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
That wouldn't even be the next big step. The next big step would be to finally leave them alone on what tiny bits of land they still have and and not take any more every time someone wants to build a pipeline. Before paying reparations, first stopping to accumulate reasons for why reparations are deserved. That would already be huge.
eetsumkaus
Because the people the reparations should go to (and from, for that matter) are no longer here. Many of their descendants are also mixed with the "oppressors". The most equitable way to do it is just factor in their background when figuring out wealth transfers.
Samja192
I get what you are saying. But in Australia the fact that their decendants are now mixed with their oppressors was actually part of their oppression - the whites literally had a policy to "breed out the black" which included a great deal of rape and "the stolen generations". Besides, the successors to those that did the crimes have been profiting off that wealth for generations so hard to say they are no longer here when the material wealth is so easily traceable
xlr82xs
Problem is, it won't be the people who profited who pay, it'll be the average tax payer whose ancestors came to live slightly less shit lives than they had back home, or got deported, or fled world war 2 and got sent here by the red cross. People whose ancestors got rich by oppressing people are still rich enough that consequences don't exist for them.
Ploty
Australië, New Zealand, Brazil, Israël the same fucking story. Consume the resources, exploit the people and spit them out.
LurkandJerk
Apparently reparations means allowing them to operate casinos and the ability to screw over peiple with tight slots, smoky keno rooms, and showrooms with C List Performers from the 80s.
Yupurineutah
You lost me at "allowing them".
nomorehate
Yupurineutah
BTW username checks out.
LucidPariah
You still have native Americans!?
brucom
You guys get Native Americans?
jammer909
In this economy? We had to get store-bought. It's a regular spaghetti-western around here.
awkwardbeautiful
We do, but their communities are battling extreme poverty, some don't have running water or electricity. We shoot them with water cannons when they peacefully protest against pipelines going through their lands and burial grounds. You know, we've really learned from our past atrocities and genocide. That last line is /s.
farfie
If anything, the natives should have a share of the profit from pumping the oil through their territory, at the very least. More than that they should be given actually farmable/usable land and significant government support.
TheMonkeysAngst
And that pipeline they said would leak and protested about...it did in fact leak
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dakota-pipeline-protests/pipeline-spills-176-000-gallons-oil-creek-150-miles-dakota-n695111
hollenqual
Of course you did learn from the atrocities and genocides: they are effective and no one cares about minorities.
awkwardbeautiful
Yes people do care about minorities. Imperialists, capitalists, and those in power do not. But many millions of us regular ppl do care about them.
hollenqual
So, why is there still oppresion? If you care about minonities, go riot whenever minorities are oppresed, and fight for their basic rights. Otherwise saying: "I care about minorities, so I always post on the internet how furious I am about their situatuon." Are just meaningless words.
Jangande
When I lived in Omaha I was in the little Mexico part of town, which also had native Americans. They all received checks based on what percent native American they were.
hetnkik999
I always vote for whatever casino laws the natives want to go through so I hope I'm helping.
drezrale
It doesn't help that much, Yes it gives them money but there are huge problems on the reservation with the addiction to gambling and a lot of these people stay really broke because they're constantly gambling and losing everything. I've lived on these reservations before and they can get really bad to the point when you're bringing a little bit of money it is a high likeliness you'll get robbed, Even if you remember of the tribe.
QotU
Our local tribeâs casino is so successful they bought one of the Vegas casinos. That takes serious money. And everyone in the tribe gets a UBI of something like $3k. I sincerely wish this kind of success could be even across tribes.
cccampbell79
When does it end though? How far back can we ask for reparations for something no one alive today had anything to do with? I have a larger than average amount of Neanderthal DNA. Can I get some reparations up in here? đ€·ââïž
TheWombatStrikesAgain
At least a few generations after the last major injustice, I'd say. And since most countries with an indigenous populations are still committing injustices against them...
LoneOrtolan
The last residential school (a place where they forcibly took First Nations children to "re-educate" them in the ways of the colonizer) closed in 1996. Why don't you take your racist opinion and shove it up your average white man from Mississippi ass? You PERSONALLY were likely alive, if not your IMMEDIATE FAMILY, you ignorant fuck-knuckle. You do realize the place in which you LIVE is a First Nations word that you assholes misspelled when your ancestors were killing the inhabitants, right?
donutposse11337
You tell em. The idea that people today have ânothing to do withâ injustices to various populations is ludicrous. For christs sake. If you eat at McDonaldâs that uses slave labor, youâre still part of slavery. The fact that âitâs ok because the workers âdid crimesââ is idiotic when it is a crime to be non-white in most parts of the US.
zeusdemigod131
I mean... aren't we kinda seeing that with the attitude shift towards Israel? A not insignificant amount of people I've seen say they have no right to the land but Israel did used to be a place and it's destruction is what led to the Jewish diaspora
DukePhelan
Then like the natives they should have fought harder. They lost, they should have gotten over it and move on like people always have.
LoneOrtolan
Sorry, just want to be clear here:
Are you saying that you're ok with someone stronger than someone else just taking what they want without repercussions?
Or are you saying that it's OK to trick the less fortunate into moving from their generationally inherited property, relocating them by force if they refuse?
Or are you saying that a contract formed under false pretenses is legally binding?
BECAUSE. ALL. OF. THAT. HAPPENED. TO. THE. NATIVE. AMERICANS.
Read a book, you total dumbfuck.
DukePhelan
I am saying that throughout human history the strong have taken from the weak. That the native Americans are still even around to complain about their past treatment is the exception not the rule. The people of today still alive are owed nothing for whatever happened to their ancestors.
LoneOrtolan
And he blocked me, but not before posting his opinion to make it look like he got the last word.
What a fucking waste of oxygen. Somewhere out there is a tree he owes an apology to.