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At least until the sh*t hits the fan, anyway.
(I believe the picture above is former officer Devin Williams Jr, who's arrest for double murder sparked a hard look at the ignored psych exams [more info below].)
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'The Sherriff's Office has been operating under information provided a number of years ago from POST that we can hire candidates who receive a "D. Not Suited" evaluation.'
'On Monday, Sheriff's spokesman Lt. Ray Kelly said it "was horrible" to have to relieve the deputies of their duties.
'In his letter, Sheriff Gregory Ahern promised to schedule another psych exam and that his intention is to "resolve this issue as quickly as possible" and "return to full duty status once you obtain a ‘suitable’ finding."'
The Article: https://www.ktvu.com/news/47-alameda-county-sheriff-deputies-get-unsatisfactory-on-psych-evaluations-relieved-of-duties
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
We are two years overdue for police standards at the federal level.
magnificentfurmaster
"because of liability issues, the Sheriff is now auditing ... who else might have also failed." Until it costs money- they DGAF.
IamWalterSobchak
That’s crazy, so is the Sheriff’s spokesperson being named Lt. R. Kelly
njkckbxr
I’ll take their job.
thechelonianshelmet
47 in one county, 10% of the force, now imagine that insane number is right across the US, 1 in every 10 cops you see could be a danger, mad
JackingMeHoff
All cities should test cops. But why should they retain their pay & benefits if they can't do their jobs? Fired means you get zilch.
BubblesTheFish
Guarantee you these guys are going to join far right militias if they haven't already.
invisibulman
You Won't Believe How Long it Takes This Article to Mention The Cops Won't Actually be Fired...
amb1021
Sounds like that Kelly guy is a liar.
twotomango
Oakland cops are reckless, people die: https://oaklandside.org/2022/07/13/deadly-collision-raises-questions-dangers-police-pursuits-oakland/
thisisausernamelikeanyothersbutthisonesmellsweird
To protect and serve turned into Harass and belittle.. Fuck them
SithShodan
It's like all the school bullies grew up there be police officers simply so they could retain their pissy behavior into afulthood
allthenamesaregone
So horrible to stand down (on full pay) violent cops. Far more horrible than someone burying yet another summarily executed black man. /s
Yakofalltrades
Coolcoolcool how many deaths at their hands?
Quixus
Hmm if the evaluations are so incorrect that they need to be redone, what assures us that the "suitable" officers were evaluated correctly?
thedtp
Glad I don’t live in Alameda County. Oh wait, yes I do… shit. In related news…
PicassoCT
That poor ass
mrthewhitee
Don't worry, there's a 1000 other counties just as bad, but don't acknowledge it, yet.
PineappleLoopsBroether
Omg that’s ALL of the east bay and more.
PrinceOfWhales
Man, woman, camera, taser, chokehold
GanjalfTheGray
I think it's also pretty concerning that the folks in charge of hiring weren't competent enough to know who they could and could not hire.
TheMightyMoto
Nuts
BernieMittens
Who heals from unsatisfactory in a couple months?! Sheriff and coroner seem jobs you shouldn't combine.
youreathing
The police unions will keep these idiots employed indefinitely.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
"The Sheriff's office has been operating under information…that we can hire candidates who received a 'D. Not suited' evaluation"
RandomQuack
I'm cool with one month's severance.
blockminster
Cool, cool, but why is the photo of a black guy? We all know these deputies are white and racist as fuck.
amb1021
Because he was a deputy there who murdered two people and prompted the reviews. Did you not read the post?
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Common sense says that we shouldn't hire people unsuited for the job, but they told us it wasn't prohibited, so what choice did we have?
Girlie1337
Wonder if now they know what answers to avoid to be "suitable."
storebrandproductmascot
Retests in 2 months, like that's all the time it takes to clear up mental illness.
raindownstarrynight
At least they were honest… this time. Not proud of it, lied through my teeth many times during my military career, crazy is frowned upon..
raindownstarrynight
To elaborate, I’ve never had the desire to harm myself or others, but my honest thoughts about many things were not socially acceptable
KatehasaBlog
I see no mention of, I dunno, providing them with psychological care to address the issue? It’s just pass/fail and no problem solving?
Userlivewire
They don’t think there is an issue.
chandler17
FORTY SEVEN?!?!
moodring
That's kind of a lowball sounding number.
Iamcornjulio
This is the only sane response to reading that story!! WTF!!47!!
Rodrodington
10% of cops being deranged sounds about right, another 5-10% are probably slightly functional sociopaths. The rest support a corrupt system
textilelover
As noted, some of them might just be fragile. Or too empathetic or conflict avoidant.
Rodrodington
This make more sense, i have strong doubt any test approved by police unions would be useful at all.
newsguycraigevans
In one day!?
Ironferrox
In a row
Tjitso
Located entirely within your kitchen?
Cabreza
Oakland cops are some of the worst in the bay. Take one guess why.
brianpmcmillan
Why?
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Cabreza
Wrong city
NKato
Dude deleted his answer instead of owning his fuckup. Lol
modus0
What do you want to bet they at least get "coached" on "proper responses" for their re-testing...
DocWino
I’ve taken the 3 hour one in Ca. It’s not hard for an intelligent person to pass tbh. It’s pretty easy to tell the patterns they look for.
askmenotbolin0
Doesn't matter if you fail,they will still hire your unsuitable ass,give you minimal training,and a gun somewhere else close by...
modus0
That's really telling then, that at least 47 deputies managed to not pass...
DocWino
To me it seemed they were trying to weed out antisocial personalities. They say you lie in the first part and tell the truth at the end.
DocWino
Several of the same questions are asked multiple times in different ways throughout.
PubstarHero
Just like all those fucking personality tests for retail jobs for some fucking reason.
Hyzenthlay021
1980s, a prospective nuclear launch officer was asked if he would have any reservations about turning the key. He replied "of course,>
Hyzenthlay021
any sane person would, you're killing millions of people, but I would hope when the time came I would do my duty". He was turned down.
NKato
That's pretty fucking terrifying.
Ryukaa
in that case feel free to look up the pilot that dropped the atom bombs on Japan, its quite a read :D
v01dstar
"pilot ... bombs" -- it was the same guy both times?!?!
Ryukaa
Well the Pilot was also the mission leader, so he is in charge
Hyzenthlay021
Made us all work harder to avoid that duty.
Hyzenthlay021
My instructor; you gotta learn this stuff or you'll spend your career in a hole w/your finger over a button going Now? Now? Now?