"In America, the rule of law is king... For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be King; and there ought to be no other" ~Thomas Paine
Well they just proved what will happen if you obey illegal orders like killing shipwrecked survivors. They will throw you and an admiral to the wolves as cover.
Hopefully, that’s a reminder of why you shouldn’t obey illegal orders from criminal minded politicians.
It's okay to openly and freely get others to disobey the President of the United States, Not only is it okay, it is REQUIRED for you to disobey the President of the United States if the orders are illegal.
The founding fathers didn’t consider our courts to be a bunch of lawless dickless losers. Military is executive branch, they don’t get to say the president is illegitimate or not.
The Demorats will only press for a third impeachment when they got the house. And thats why the GOP is trying to start a war to prevent the midterms election, as Trump has already putt the Option into the BBB.
I hope the supreme court, congress, & the armed forces don't let the president think it's okay to openly & freely disobey the constitution... oops, too late.
J6 sedition = pardoned... Saying "don't do illegal stuff" = sedition punishable by death? "tHe RaDiCaL LeFt NeEdS tO tOnE dOwN tHeIr eXtReMiSt rHeToRiC??"
Other than the right to have you killed, imprisoned, denaturalized, or seize your property so long as he states at some point that doing so was part of his official duties.
They became "legitimate" when they were granted by the Supreme Court. Congress could, in theory, outlaw them or we could amend the constitution to remove any ambiguity, but none of that is going to happen. The law stands: the president of the US has absolute immunity and can execute anyone on earth at will without the slightest fear of any legal jeopardy.
Perhaps, but if I'm to be murdered, legally or not, I'm going to defend myself with any and all means at my disposal. I'm not saying I'll survive, but I'll make it expensive for them.
When a sitting president issues a day one executive order that directly contradicts the U.S. Constitution, it kind of does become a matter of, disobey the fucker because he's obviously got no allegiance to said document, despite his oath to the contrary. That document has the last word unless and until a majority of Congress agrees to amend it. The POTUS has zero authority to do so.
But according to him (AND SCOTUS!) nothing the president does as an official act can be illegal! Even if he orders Seal Team Six to kill his political opponents! Remember that?
How do I say this?.....nicely.......he's a bumbling idiot and can't read, problem solve, understand basic math, think critically, or really anything else I expect people to be able to do on at least a basic level.
How do I say this? ...nicely...? His accomplices, lackeys, & supporters are even bigger idiots and/or even more corrupt and/or even more cruel, which is why they enable him. He's far too fragile & inept to do anything without lots of help. Even after he's gone, the systemic corruption that helps him & others fail their way up will remain, and it must be irreversibly dismantled if the nation is to ever have any hope of surviving & thriving.
Grizwald1
"In America, the rule of law is king... For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be King; and there ought to be no other"
~Thomas Paine
fknbastard
Well they just proved what will happen if you obey illegal orders like killing shipwrecked survivors. They will throw you and an admiral to the wolves as cover.
Hopefully, that’s a reminder of why you shouldn’t obey illegal orders from criminal minded politicians.
Eyeetsass
I disobey the president every day. I was radicalized by not taking seriously lying rapist criminals who shit themselves.
MidoryMoon
It's the most American act possible to disobey the goddamn King.
DiracsDelta
It’s unpatriotic to state the law -Trump
idiotsonfire
I hope when the heart attack finally hits, its the most painful thing he ever experiences until he dies, 30 seconds later.
wutsinausername
quiet piggie
WickedSludge
Donald Trump? The child rapist!?
VinnyVeritas
I say this with all DUE RESPECT, " FUCK YOU, Trump !" THAT's the level of respect he deserves
androgenoide
Presidents do not make the laws.
KommanderKayriel
Presidents, like the rest of the government, exist to serve the people of America. Not rule us.
bourbonandbaddecisions
Get fucked draft dodger.
SteveD31415
#1 I don't know about a military dictatorship but I would cheer for a coup followed by a rigorous Purge.
vwzzjxv6f9101
Of course a criminal would think nothing he could do or say would be illegal. This is the fault of John Robert’s. Fuck that guy.
mooseablethenok
It's okay to openly and freely get others to disobey the President of the United States, Not only is it okay, it is REQUIRED for you to disobey the President of the United States if the orders are illegal.
Sticklebrickk
This is coming from the same people that labeled artifacts as a terrorist organization, so, yeah.
Eleshar24
What about if the president is a known insurrectionist, ineligible to hold the office?
mooseablethenok
The founding fathers didn’t consider our courts to be a bunch of lawless dickless losers. Military is executive branch, they don’t get to say the president is illegitimate or not.
Awmph
any govt staffed by *competent* people doing their due diligence and doing their best would be an improvement
Iaimtomisbehave
https://www.mobilize.us/nokings/ Nonsense Donnie, it is every person in the United States duty to disobey you.
stonecollector
We serve the Constitution and the citizens of the US. We do not serve the president
SmashySashimi
“It’s super cool to obey emperor trump, kids!”
withcheeseplease
When you feel attacked when people say fascism is bad, you're a fascist.
PutThePRNDLinD
He's openly admitting *giving* illegal orders.
Nostradamuswaswrong
He campaigned the first time on ordering the military to commit war crimes. Is anyone surprised at this?
ontarioOT
And here come the consequences of his actions, so that he won't just keep doing the same damn illegal shit for year after year after year.
* A wild tumbleweed passes slowly in front of us as we stare out to the horizon*
Elkarlo1977
The Demorats will only press for a third impeachment when they got the house. And thats why the GOP is trying to start a war to prevent the midterms election, as Trump has already putt the Option into the BBB.
ZaphodBbx
Openly...and freely.
GasBandit
"When the president does it, it's not illegal." - Nixon
Whitebeardthepirate
and who's going to stop him, or give him reason to deter from his decisions?
OperatorWay
I hope the supreme court, congress, & the armed forces don't let the president think it's okay to openly & freely disobey the constitution... oops, too late.
J6 sedition = pardoned...
Saying "don't do illegal stuff" = sedition punishable by death?
"tHe RaDiCaL LeFt NeEdS tO tOnE dOwN tHeIr eXtReMiSt rHeToRiC??"
artie500
He can't possibly be that clueless...or can he?
bippityboppitybuttsex
Next he is going to go after attorneys who advise their clients to follow the law....
rcgom
he's repeatedly attacked atty's for just doing the jobs they swore- or were hired- to do, so ...
UpvotingtheHotButton
ACH! CRIVENS!
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AntaNce
GNU Sir Terry, and with more 'Crivens!'
Tzulscha
Updoot for the Nac Mac Feegle! We willna be fooled again!
PileOfWalthers
Crivens!
antoinettehaupt2
How do I say this after respectfully reading other comments
He literally openly does not care about people.
Oh and the part where he’s threatening to murder people if they don’t listen to him
fearghul
Old Stoneface to deal with the would be king.
Alurkerforcedtologin
Disobey the president? The president has NO POWER over me.
FredGarvinMaleProstitute
You're God damn right. All politics are local. It's that bitch Karen on the HOA board that has a noose around your neck.
RetrogradeLlama
Fuck that bitch Karen!
gesel
Other than the right to have you killed, imprisoned, denaturalized, or seize your property so long as he states at some point that doing so was part of his official duties.
Alurkerforcedtologin
That's the neat part, those aren't legitimate powers of the president.
gesel
They became "legitimate" when they were granted by the Supreme Court. Congress could, in theory, outlaw them or we could amend the constitution to remove any ambiguity, but none of that is going to happen. The law stands: the president of the US has absolute immunity and can execute anyone on earth at will without the slightest fear of any legal jeopardy.
Alurkerforcedtologin
Perhaps, but if I'm to be murdered, legally or not, I'm going to defend myself with any and all means at my disposal. I'm not saying I'll survive, but I'll make it expensive for them.
gesel
Yah, I'm with you on that. I'm ok going down by your side if it comes to it. Lets hope for a less dramatic resolution.
ziralien
They weren't saying to DISOBEY THE PRESIDENT. They were saying don't obey illegal orders, regardless of who delivers them.
wingedcougar1993598
When a sitting president issues a day one executive order that directly contradicts the U.S. Constitution, it kind of does become a matter of, disobey the fucker because he's obviously got no allegiance to said document, despite his oath to the contrary. That document has the last word unless and until a majority of Congress agrees to amend it. The POTUS has zero authority to do so.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
But according to him (AND SCOTUS!) nothing the president does as an official act can be illegal! Even if he orders Seal Team Six to kill his political opponents! Remember that?
Nalianna
Because sometimes, illegal orders are given by a drunkard ex fox news host.
westellar
It wouldn't matter if they were. What, the president is owed obedience now? Fuck that. This is America.
RocMage
THATS THE SAME THING!
NotThePoint
KommanderKayriel
"Don't break the law, soldiers." HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TAKE THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD AWAY FROM ME!
Cn1561
Or it's an admission that some of his orders are illegal and he knows it.
modus0
*Some*?
Eyeetsass
He knows. He said what he said. That’s the bamboozle. It works on just enough cultists to ruin the holidays.
boxbackknitties
How do I say this?.....nicely.......he's a bumbling idiot and can't read, problem solve, understand basic math, think critically, or really anything else I expect people to be able to do on at least a basic level.
RabidCharcuterie
That was way too nice
OperatorWay
How do I say this? ...nicely...? His accomplices, lackeys, & supporters are even bigger idiots and/or even more corrupt and/or even more cruel, which is why they enable him.
He's far too fragile & inept to do anything without lots of help. Even after he's gone, the systemic corruption that helps him & others fail their way up will remain, and it must be irreversibly dismantled if the nation is to ever have any hope of surviving & thriving.
AgamemnonsMemes
Trump thinks - and has said - that all orders he gives are legal because he's the president.
rubypilgrim
Or in this case, he's fully aware that his orders are illegal and is counting on the military to obey them anyway.
PerthAussieMike
This. And that SCOTUS has ruled that basically he is above the law as President.
Isorikk
Sounds like he's admitting to something