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JDAM with a delayed fuse
A 1000lb bomb would ordinarily level a small neighborhood block, but when fitted with a fuse that delays detonation until a few seconds AFTER it hits the ground, a single building can be collapsed rather than completely disintegrated.
I don't know the specifics of this test, other than it being held at the China Lake Testing Grounds, but I would assume it was to prove the effectiveness of a GPS guided munition in destroying the target and nothing else. A bomb of this size would ordinarily leave NOTHING behind, much less simply flip the vehicle.
gwhh
Now what fun is that? A bomb needs to be a bomb.
boomzoombitch
I love how we got so good at kill each other we have to intentionally add technology to reduce our effectiveness.
pavehawkfavehawk
I've also seen people walk away after a 500# has blow up over the top of them. So ya know, Inshallah
Tinkeritis
"Call before you dig." - 811
DiceyBusiness
The only problem is maybe you want to level a small neighbourhood just to get the target.
diddycherfnug
My sister works on the guidance sys. PaWS in CL! Makes an otter gesture when she says paws and the older engineers don't know what to think.
dhorner8010
I’m all for collateral damage!!! Back to carpet bombing like WW2!!!
razorbelly88888
It also only kills enemy, freindly cats in the blast area are unharmed. Dumb military complex will doom us all. Dont glorify death!
GipCee
We're officially back-tracking
IMMAustin
Now if we could only stop bombing buildings full of civilians...
aaikr
Darn I wanted to see if the van nailed the landing
HDMOF
Right? Not only is the text dead wrong, the gif is done right either!
Fr1edToast
It digs the grave and buries them
madtraumatechstrictlypeds
Yes but is it pointy?
thrain5
It is much pointy.... And explodey
Daishiconscr
We already do delayed fusing. That’s how we penetrate to different floors on a multi-story building...
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Clever
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Less shrapnel this way?
froggystylez
Bombs have had optional fuse settings for some time now.
BananaDriver
A 1000 pound JDAM OR A GBU 32, would never level a whole block. It won’t disintegrate a house.
BananaDriver
Delay if one way to mitigate collateral damage but this is a vast oversimplification. There are multiple ways to reduce CD.
zampano
Pretty sure that's a bunker buster
daggeran
ProxyPlayerHD
1klbs = 453.6 kg for the other 94% of the world. also this reminds me of a Nuclear explosive being detonated underground.
ProxyPlayerHD
UrsaUrsa
Well, there goes my garden...
kadaeux
I must admire the ability for the JDAM to not destroy the non-target dirt as opposed to the target dirt.
kadaeux
And it's ability to not destroy the target truck and instead blame that on gravity's doing is utterly admirable.
SKOOBASTEEF
+1 to both
sp00ked
"COME ON AND *SLAM!* AND WELCOME TO THE *JAM!*"
hermaDiver
Ooooor..no bombs at all?
BEELZEB0B
You must be new to these parts. We don't take kindly to people who take kindly 'round here!
sometimesipostsockshere
What about jägerbombs?!
ImSimplyAChairLeg
GarrusArchangel
Now THAT is what I call a launch truck.
ErzaLust
WHAT THE HELL IS LB?? *confused european*
UnoriginalPoster2000
Lover Boy.
SirChadwellHeath
In Latin, libra pondo meant 'balance pound', which was abbreviated to Lb. Also further shortened to £ (=L) used for UK currency, ein Pfund
ErzaLust
thanks!
merxman
Licking balls. 1000 licked balls in that bomb.
elethomel
2.2lb = 1kg
elethomel
approximately, at sea level on earth
kingkongkeom
You can achieve the same by simple hitting the target with a e.g. 200lb bomb. If the 1000lb bomb destroys whole neighborhoods, dont use them
WigglyCherry
That's not "a few seconds" that maybe a third of a second at most
lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalaa
third of a second yes but the video is slow motion maybe 1000fps/s?
MisterLemons
Meant to type 'milliseconds', got lost in other typos.
LRHJr
And as for reducing damage, id still say everything hit will get pretty fucked
FernandoRumdebum
Can we stop shitting on @op's effort ? lol.
UnpinionedPoplars
"...collateral damage." They discovered how to reduce damage to the target years ago; they don't send the bomb at all.
Xuw1
A truck and a house or a truck and 25 houses. hmmm :thinking:
Ivain
I think the idea is to reduce the amount of things that get hit while still letting hit hit hard enough to fuck up one thing extra bad.
Morrigi
Well yeah, everything hit is supposed to be fucked. The idea is to prevent the entire neighborhood from also getting fucked.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Less shrapnel this way?
SKOOBASTEEF
It would be far less. Look up the term "camouflet"
gewalt
more like different kind of shrapnel
notinterestednow
That truck is shrapnel. Just not traveling as far.
WigglyCherry
I think it's more for not hitting as much. Not having low damage on what you hit
LRHJr
Im not some maths genius, but to me, the area of the explosion in the video seemed like it would fuck a diameter of at least truck x 5
nightshonor
That's a reasonable size for a building.
LRHJr
Yes, seems like overkill for a truck tho
Imhereforthelurking
Truck x 5, over truck x 30, due to the yield a lot of our sub nuclear arsenal can do. Like, artillery that can turn a city block into a-
Imhereforthelurking
Decorative gravel lot in about 5 minutes of shelling.
BoobsAreSoMuchFun
How come the bomb doesn't blow when it hits the ground? I mean it takes a huge impact? Should that not detonate it by itself?
Notmyjobtoday
Lots of steel in those things. They aren't some sorta olive drab watermelon fulla boom.
Cayowin
Have a Google for Wallis earthquake bomb. A ww2 bomb that started this technique
LitchLitch
This is why we do not make bombs out of nitroglycerin or tnt any more. Modern explosives tend to be shock and fire stable
gman41750
It takes a LOT to set off “most” explosive’s. Most bombs need a fuse AND a booster to go off. I loaded bombs on aircraft long ago (1970)
bax498
Probably not much changed there's 4 or so steps for a PW4.
Jomini001
USAF uses H6 and tritonal in their bombs, which are extremely stable. The Navy uses tritonal and PBXN, which is also insensitive to heat.
Jomini001
Modern western explosives (like, from the sixties onwards) are extremely stable by design. Example: C4 can be dropped from 10K feet
Jomini001
Then set on fire... and it won't explode. You can actually eat it too, but I wouldn't advise.
ImahumanIpromise
Because it has a delayed fuse.
BoobsAreSoMuchFun
So just violently throwing a bomb from high altitude to the ground is not enough to make it kaboom?
Morrigi
You typically need both heat and shock to detonate modern military explosives. One or the other is not sufficient.
RubyPorto
Yep. Just like how lighting C4 on fire just gives you a pile of C4 that's on fire, no explosion.
RubyPorto
The main explosives used in bombs are fairly hard to detonate. They require specific triggers and a hard impact isn't one of those.
merxman
Otherwise Clumsy Johnny would kill everyone when he dropped one on the carrier deck...
RubyPorto
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash Or when a B-52 carrying 4 nukes crashes into North Carolina...
RubyPorto
http://www.rkeene.org/personal/pictures/.funny/Small_bombdrop.jpg Who gave Clumsy Johnny forklift keys?
merxman
:P
Arlok
So... Why wouldnt you just use a smaller bomb?
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hashbot
Computer guidance units to adjust it for its mission. The US also has a large surplus of these.
DougDeNasty
Single bomb could be used multiple ways. Only the fuse setting needs to be changed. Same bomb could be set to air-burst against infantry.
Splartacus
That doesn’t make for a good gif silly
OnePotatoTwoPotatoThreePotatoFloor
HA! Smaller bombs.... Absurd...
noTyrone
fragged0
They've also done that with the 'Small Diameter Bomb' at 250 lbs. Comes with a gps / laser / radar or other guidance kit and glider wings.
Slashenaar
Direction of force, exploding above the ground makes an expanding ball, exploding underground makes a shape-charge pointed up, +shrapnel
Bethem909
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-53/B We do have smaller bombs.
MrJitterfingers
something something, "don't lead them as much".
yzrocketman
How about a tactical nuke with a longer delay?
YouSeemLikeAVeryCleverPerson
You have to put your money somewhere
Blackrain39
Effect would differ. Example shows the vehicle remaining intact until it lands. A smaller bomb would bust it open.
Jrhoney
To ensure the munitions being carried can perform a wide variety of missions. That enhances the ability to deal with targets of opportunity.
LitchLitch
What part of the military industrial complex are you not understanding?
Jomini001
Cheaper and logistically easier to use fewer types that you can scale the effects of via fuzing options.
TzimisceBeast
Because 'Murica, obviously.
baredjurt
Because Murica
fingerswipes
came here to write this comment
DontMindMeImJustBrowsing
Haha ????
potshot
Controlled demolition. Even a smaller bomb would explode outward, this doesn't eliminate collateral but lessens it.
Bloodboar
Might be potentially mass production of one type that can be changed to varying levels of destruction
ALargeAgglomerationOfAtomsSuperficiallyResemblingAUser
iirc JDAMs are Vietnam era surplus fitted with modern guidance systems, so this is pretty much spot on.
shaggykx
So... to save money? Have you not seen the military budget?
CHUBMARINES
It doesn't look like it but the US military spends a lot of money on efficiency. Just have to look at their stuff vs ours
Bloodboar
Nah mass production so you can have lots of varied bombs in a short time incase things go sideways. Just a thought not based on any fact
minepagan
It also means you can have one plane carrying a bunch of one bomb, that can be tuned for use in different situations.
lazybuthappy
I think the point is not scattering pieces all around, which can affect other structures or people severely
DianNaoChong
It really is a moot point, considering our double tap doctrine that ends up hitting first responders.
UnoriginalPoster2000
True. You wouldn’t want your bomb to cause all that damage.
Arlok
So thhere are no rocks in all that dirt?
captbananapants
Its directs the force upwards. Falling rocks can hurt but they wont devastate a wide area like high velocity shrapnel.
Molvanian
Some I'm sure. Less than a spray of bricks.
shreddedking
so that US government pays more dollars to get more subdued blast effect instead of paying less dollars for smaller bomb
captbananapants
With a smaller bomb above ground the effect on target will be the same but the area surrounding will be hit with the blast wave and sharpnel
shreddedking
considering that this missile is supposed to bring down buildings, blast wave and shrapnel are really not a factor to consider
SKOOBASTEEF
1. Not a missile 2. Missiles are NOT used to bring buildings down 3. Every explosion will inherently cause shrapnel
captbananapants
Yes but the explosive force is directed upwards by the dirt and with it any potential fragmentation. Vertically directed fragments won't /2