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https://www.npr.org/2022/08/24/1119340765/uvalde-pete-arredondo-fired-school-police-chief-robb-elementary
Edit: I noticed I forgot the #ACAB tag but I guess that doesn't matter now.
jebbers12
Took 3 months cuz he hid outside the HR office for a week.
TheSeanDassen
He feared for his safety, yeah; he knows how incompetent his department is… story checks out.
Sniffmeenob101
They should all be fired and charged with negligence
Notmybeardedladynotmycarnival
And to cap off the cowardice he couldn't even show up to the meeting because it was in a gun free zone and he felt scared.
VinnyTB
In 3 months he'll be hired by another department 10 miles down the road. And the theater continues.
phalanxausage
I'm honestly stunned he is still alive. Not advocating vigilantism, just expected it.
Splittmark
"I didn't realize I was in charge." Then why not ask around or take charge you asshoe
Cuppoteam
This guy should get life for all the kids he let die.
Kalcibonie
friggen finally.
garfieldstwin
tho he deserved to lose his job. It's good to have a scapegoat to divert attention from all the other issues; gun control, mental health
dancingbarefootonlego
What a freaking nightmare this has been.November is 2 months away,hope everyone checks voter status and VOTES. GQP doesn’t want you to vote.
CaroleBaskingShark
Fired? Out of a canon? No?.... Not good enough
betwitched
Trump will hire him now
Sechran
A lie will be half-way around the world before the truth can get its pants on. Accountability will still be fast asleep and likely hung over
xenocrisis0153
After the 2011 Japan Tsunami, an angry parent threw the shoe of his deceased elementary school daughter at the teacher he blamed for not (1/
xenocrisis0153
/2) saving her. I say these UPD cowards get the same treatment everyday for the rest of their miserable lives.
LadyNetrex
It's been 3 months? WTF.
Melonfish
His solicitor is already filing to state he's been unfairly dismissed, i.e. without investigation. Unreal.
siknoz
Yup. He also wants to be reinstated, investigation dropped, and backpay... dude has balls, I hope he rots.
Tjitso
School boards decide who is the chief of police? Can anyone explain?
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Tjitso
Thanks, I didn't know that was even a thing
isthisusernametakenquestionmark
I wonder how this guy sleeps at night
DisgruntledFerret
Judging by his response, if he's losing any sleep it's only because he's very pissed off about being punished.
admweirdbeard
'botched response' while technically correct seems to me to be somewhat insufficient to convey the scale of things here.
Bhargo
need a more succinct way to describe dozens of armed cops standing around laughing while a maniac shoots children down the hall
easyoneundone
Wiesel2000
so sad....
Thresholdpush
"Shut up & sit down, you big bald fuck." -Avi.
lljkstonefish
I always heard it as big-balled. Which is probably not applicable in this scenario.
zanaria
And the worst part is, he is still trying to claim there were no mistakes in leadership made. Claimed that expecting a cop to open that /1
lljkstonefish
Different version: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officers-never-hesitated-uvalde-school-police-chief-says-first-extende-rcna32901
zanaria
Yeah he made a statement after he was fired.
zanaria
door without a shield would be suicide. Yet they had a shield within 5 minutes. AND there were people who wanted to do just that but /2
zanaria
they were stopped by the other cops. He should not only be fired but also charged for his role in those deaths... /3
fetchted
I have a question. How can a school board sack a Police Chief? Does the force have a specific contract for the school
Paireon
According to another answer, over 200 Texas school districts have their own police force, which as a Canadian I find mind-boggling.
fetchted
Mind boggling. It’s a mental concept. ‘Private Policing’
getthismanabeer
The school district apparently has its own police force separate from the small town they're in. https://www.ucisd.net/Page/2120
fetchted
Partly explains why there were so many agencies on scene - doing fuck all.
getthismanabeer
Yep. And this dipshit is head of his 5 person "department" and somehow has control of the scene. (And I think I saw he had no radio?)
fetchted
I didn’t realise that was the whole department. FML
PrincessPicklebricks
I hate his stupid fucking face, but a lot more need fired.
GravyEducation
He's straight outta Central casting for asshole cop
Paireon
Yeah, I mean, if we only fired his face it would be a tad gruesome... Oh wait, did you mean "fired out of a cannon" or the other fired?
PrincessPicklebricks
How bout boffum?
Paireon
...Eeehh, I'll take it.
KittenVonCatsworth
Took almost as long to fire him as it took him to respond to the shooting.
HarryPotter918
He was just quiet quitting I guess.
EmCeeMiNacion
Oh his response was quick it just wasn't the response people wanted (the attemt to cover up the major fuck up)
atomfixes101
He immediately submitted paperwork to be reinstated and saying “ he did know he was the incident commander”. Fuck him incompetent ass
PunnyTiger
I mean, he still hasn't done anything about the shooter, or all those accomplices to the crime wearing badges while helping the shooter
Dapperworth
Iblamemyparentstoo
This???????
fenlander
Why does a school board get to fire a police chief? I'm not saying they are wrong but how do they have that level of authority?
getthismanabeer
I just spent 5 minutes verifying that too - why the hell does the school district have its own police force.
6313326
The best answer I can find is "because Texas" *jazz hands*
Youhavinagiraffe
Doesn't he work (used to work!) directly for the school district since his title is "school police chief"
Kavrae
Wow. Somehow that makes this whole thing even worse...
fenlander
Wow, you are right. I never thought a school would have it's own police force but I found this explanation 1/2
fenlander
In Texas, more than 200 school districts have their own police forces, while many others contract with local police departments.
FancySharkDinnerParty
Funnily enough, the reason those arrangements were created was to stop school shootings after Columbine.
Youhavinagiraffe
The conservative-dogma-compliant "solution" to school shootings
krugle
Not surprised it took 3 months, hard to get fired if you're in a union and even more so in a higher position. Surprised it was that fast.
BoothangJohnson
Honestly he probably thought about it earlier, just needed to secure another job before he left
CptRobotNinja
Now they need to fire the cops that have been harassing parents that tried to help their kids
LoneWanderer85
Nah, hard to get fired if you're in a police union. All the other unions in the US have been busted long ago.
MioTaalas
Unions don't, or shouldn't make firing someone from neglecting their duties harder. Especially if someone died because of that....
krugle
From my experience with unions it's more there's a strict policy to be followed with an investigation. The initial event is 1/2
krugle
irrelevant. They're suppose to proceed without emotion and follow through with the reasonable result. 2/2
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
I'm very pro union but police unions are breeding grounds for corruption. They should be eliminated of reined in.
stonedlikeicheckedoutmedusa
??♀️
bushpotato
It's hard for COPS to be fired in a union...
LongJuan
You guys are missing the point here. They don't get fired. This is a win, 3 months is fast!
Chromeshack
Are people that high up allowed in the union?
stonedlikeicheckedoutmedusa
Yes.
krugle
I'd imagine so, though I don't know much of their union so can't say for certain.
stonedlikeicheckedoutmedusa
Yes, they are
Hevach
They weren't trying until the lawsuit was filed. They gave him a seat on the town council, a raise, and lied to defend him. Even now, the/
Hevach
Statement about his firing is full of disgusting language blaming the families for forcing this and suggesting the council hopes this will/
Hevach
Resurrect their dead kids so nobody else's life has to be ruined.
msd3k
Also pretty much threatening to sue because he was fired. 100% entitled piece of shit, should never be allowed near another leadership role.
WhamBamBadaBing
Police unions give unions a bad name
AManWoman
They're not a union. You can tell because real unions don't include management in their membership.
Trelfar
From what I'm told the Fraternal Order of Police isn't even really a labor union, they just market themselves that way.
LoneWanderer85
They are the only real corrupt unions around, but it's never talked about. Instead the right pretends all the others unions are corrupt
LoneWanderer85
even though unions for other professions in the US barely even exist, let alone have any significant power
DeinnsBeans
Now charge him criminal negligence, accessory-to-manslaughter, and dereliction of duty.
reineseele
"He feared for his pension."-Police Rep. tryin a new thing
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
nah there was anothe court case that said police cannot be held liable for anyone's safety absent a special relatiship with the police
craque
what about the whole "arrest people who tried to save their own kids" thing
PunnyTiger
like the kids of the cops that got snuck out while everyone else's kids were left to die?
SuperRockinMrMagic
He might win but lawyer fees would ruin him so do it out of spite
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
Well it would ruin you too
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Yes but I'd say their action go beyond "not helping" and extend into "aiding and abetting."
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
I dont think they can even be held liable if for example, they break someone's arm during a rescue.
TheFirstFurst
"He didn't save my life, he ruined my death!"
Markuspsyches
Was there a story about the cops on phone with one student, who got them to call out as a distraction, & shot? if true isn't that a crime?
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
That's probably not a crime. Just evidence of how incompetent they are and that they shouldn't be cops.
Kamchatkah
It'd be good to get a source for this.
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
It wasnt done with intention so it wasnt a crime. US laws requires two things to make a conviction, the act and the intent.
thrashingcows
BonusDad
He didn't even attend his "illegal and unconstitutional public lynching." His words. Cause you know, reasonable comparison.
FlyingButtPliers
That poor soul who had to edit that video
fanwis666101
I heard arts of the audio. That kind of screams will never leave my head again. It's really frightening.
Zaezardraws
Frustratingly enough, I hope they were someone with a cold-dead heart. So the pain didn't needlessly pass on to an honest person again.
emjay9010
(non-American) Can someone please explain how the school board got to vote on to decide Police Chief's fate?
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emjay9010
Much appreciated, thank you. ??
Garamonde
Because politics. The school board can't fire him directly, but they do have the clout to demand he be fired by the Mayor.
emjay9010
Ooh, thanks, Garamonde. I dont want to correct you here (since I've barely a clue), but I've just learnt that they did in fact fire him. See
emjay9010
the other post here, below yours, linking a post (which has link to page in it)? That. The Chief was of small team for school/s district.